Periodic Table of Swearing

Continuation of the post at Abbie Smith's ERV blog (http://scienceblogs.com/erv/)

Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:25 am  •  [Post 17551]

Scented Nectar wrote:
codelette wrote:What? McBoob has a "happy army"? I thought it was Reed the one with those crazy tendencies.

Nope, it was McBoobie quite a while back, like maybe half a year ago. I can't find the article or picture any more. She may have taken it down after it got laughed at. She said she goes to them when she needs cheering up.

The picture showed, arranged in a semi-circle and facing her, a bunch of toys/dolls, creatures and characters, both fuzzy things and superheroes, short toys in front, and taller (Barbie sized) dolls and creatures in back. Maybe 30 or 40 in total. I mean what does she do? Talk to them? "I want to be like YOU someday, WonderWoman" or "you, my magical friends and creatures will hunt down and kill people I don't like in the following daydream...."

Arrgh! When I see an adult woman decorate her own place with stuffed animals and children's toy dolls, and there's no kids there as an excuse for it, I nearly run away screaming.

For real? Lol. Reed wrote basically the same reason to having a plethora of toys arranged in a similar config. Maybe the suffer from a contagious disease. Stupidity. Google for Screed and her "army of happy". Pretty sure there's a blog entry with pic and all.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:31 am  •  [Post 17552]

codelette wrote:
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codelette wrote:What? McBoob has a "happy army"? I thought it was Reed the one with those crazy tendencies.

Nope, it was McBoobie quite a while back, like maybe half a year ago. I can't find the article or picture any more. She may have taken it down after it got laughed at. She said she goes to them when she needs cheering up.

The picture showed, arranged in a semi-circle and facing her, a bunch of toys/dolls, creatures and characters, both fuzzy things and superheroes, short toys in front, and taller (Barbie sized) dolls and creatures in back. Maybe 30 or 40 in total. I mean what does she do? Talk to them? "I want to be like YOU someday, WonderWoman" or "you, my magical friends and creatures will hunt down and kill people I don't like in the following daydream...."

Arrgh! When I see an adult woman decorate her own place with stuffed animals and children's toy dolls, and there's no kids there as an excuse for it, I nearly run away screaming.

For real? Lol. Reed wrote basically the same reason to having a plethora of toys arranged in a similar config. Maybe the suffer from a contagious disease. Stupidity. Google for Screed and her "army of happy". Pretty sure there's a blog entry with pic and all.

Oh shit, I hope I didn't get them mixed up. My memory is not the greatest, but I thought it was McWrong. I'll go google and look for it.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:34 am  •  [Post 17553]

Scented Nectar wrote:Oh shit, I hope I didn't get them mixed up. My memory is not the greatest, but I thought it was McWrong. I'll go google and look for it.

McWrong definitely had the Happy Army. Sounds like Natalie had one too. Maybe she likes to show how "girly" she is.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:36 am  •  [Post 17554]

Holy crap! It was Natalie, not Jenny. Jenny was only the bookshelf one.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... 19th-hour/

My apologies Jenny, if you're reading this. The insane Happy Army was by Natalie!!!

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:38 am  •  [Post 17555]

bhoytony wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:Oh shit, I hope I didn't get them mixed up. My memory is not the greatest, but I thought it was McWrong. I'll go google and look for it.

McWrong definitely had the Happy Army. Sounds like Natalie had one too. Maybe she likes to show how "girly" she is.

What? You mean I don't have dementia yet as I thought? Jennygirl's Happy Army caught on and spread? Egads! Is Abbie working on a cure yet?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:41 am  •  [Post 17556]

papillon wrote:
Mykeru wrote:The problem with mockery is that as they are all POE-ready, staying ahead of the curve of their own self-parody is a pain in the ass.


You're not kidding, although I did manage to advocate deliberately triggering someone with a seashell.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Saint N. » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:42 am  •  [Post 17557]

More from Justicar on Dillahunty and A+theism.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:43 am  •  [Post 17558]

Just realised interloper is you Papillon. Well done!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Rystefn » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:45 am  •  [Post 17559]

I can't say too much about the toys. I have a literal army of toy soldiers on my desk.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:47 am  •  [Post 17560]

Same here. Lots of skaven.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Rystefn » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:55 am  •  [Post 17561]

Yeah, I can field a ten thousand point Skaven army if I wanted to. Maybe more, it's been a while since I added it all up.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:57 am  •  [Post 17562]

Scented Nectar wrote:Holy crap! It was Natalie, not Jenny. Jenny was only the bookshelf one.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/nataliereed ... 19th-hour/

My apologies Jenny, if you're reading this. The insane Happy Army was by Natalie!!!

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby papillon » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:58 am  •  [Post 17563]

Tony Parsehole wrote:How the fuck is s/he allowed to post with that sig though?


I was surprised too, but surely even they can recognise a genuinely funny foot-in-mouth moment.
It was the grandiose way Fllewelyn delivered it that I loved.
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Postby Mykeru » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:59 am  •  [Post 17564]

Having it out with some bozos at Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference http://goo.gl/xxkGq and would like a link to Rebecca's hundreds and thousands of rape threats from the atheist community, including PROMINENT atheists.

I assume by now they would be archived on the internet and searchable by category.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:10 pm  •  [Post 17565]

papillon wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:How the fuck is s/he allowed to post with that sig though?


I was surprised too, but surely even they can recognise a genuinely funny foot-in-mouth moment.
It was the grandiose way Fllewelyn delivered it that I loved.


Agreed. He actually went back to make that as grandiose as he could. His initial, less funny but more concise response was:

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:14 pm  •  [Post 17566]

Had that "Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference" video playing in the background. Eight minutes in and I thought "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I'm gonna go find some new music to listen to instead...

By the way, the lady that did the intro for her? Creeps me out. I think it's great and all that she started a non-religious alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, [if 12-stepping does indeed work...] but every time I hear her speak it makes me wonder if she really is keeping sober. Also...she's got a bit of a, um, troubled history with the law here in Florida. :?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:15 pm  •  [Post 17567]

cunt wrote:
papillon wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:How the fuck is s/he allowed to post with that sig though?


I was surprised too, but surely even they can recognise a genuinely funny foot-in-mouth moment.
It was the grandiose way Fllewelyn delivered it that I loved.


Agreed. He actually went back to make that as grandiose as he could. His initial, less funny but more concise response was:

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In a way that single, solitary word, said with the finality of a tombstone falling into place over a grave, is even more laden with hubris than the replacement comment.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mykeru » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:25 pm  •  [Post 17568]

JackRayner wrote:Had that "Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference" video playing in the background. Eight minutes in and I thought "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I'm gonna go find some new music to listen to instead...

By the way, the lady that did the intro for her? Creeps me out. I think it's great and all that she started a non-religious alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, [if 12-stepping does indeed work...] but every time I hear her speak it makes me wonder if she really is keeping sober. Also...she's got a bit of a, um, troubled history with the law here in Florida. :?


Check out The Orange Papers: http://www.orange-papers.org/. The short answer: Not only does Alcoholic's Anonymous's God/Not God program of learned helplessness and double think not work, but it's actually worse than doing nothing. More alcoholics get a grjip on their own. AA tends to fuck with recovery and when an AAer relapses, they do it hard.

Lady is a 12 stepper? The way she laid into me, makes sense.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ReneeHendricks » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:34 pm  •  [Post 17569]

JackRayner wrote:Had that "Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference" video playing in the background. Eight minutes in and I thought "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I'm gonna go find some new music to listen to instead...

By the way, the lady that did the intro for her? Creeps me out. I think it's great and all that she started a non-religious alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, [if 12-stepping does indeed work...] but every time I hear her speak it makes me wonder if she really is keeping sober. Also...she's got a bit of a, um, troubled history with the law here in Florida. :?


Threaded the vid, watched up until Rebecca took the podium and opened her mouth - suddenly, I was off watching My Drunk Kitchen. The later has more substance and real-life applications :)
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Guest » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:38 pm  •  [Post 17570]

Re: PZ's latest post, "They’re coming to get your kids…" - are there any other atheists out there who seriously have no problem with what these groups are doing? I mean, it's unfortunate that children may be indoctrinated, but if those running these groups are within their legal rights then I have no issue with it. It's atheism like this which is the reason I call myself "not religious" as opposed to an "atheist". I mean, what kind of sentence is, "Clearly, we need a better strategy for coping with these cultish freaks"? I find that just unpleasant, and more a reflection of the character of the person saying it than anything else.

I may be in the minority. It might also be due to the fact that I am surrounded by many religious people in my life, who even with views I consider flawed, are far kinder, caring and sincere than many of those who post over at FTB.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:40 pm  •  [Post 17571]

JackRayner wrote:Had that "Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference" video playing in the background. Eight minutes in and I thought "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I'm gonna go find some new music to listen to instead...

By the way, the lady that did the intro for her? Creeps me out. I think it's great and all that she started a non-religious alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, [if 12-stepping does indeed work...] but every time I hear her speak it makes me wonder if she really is keeping sober. Also...she's got a bit of a, um, troubled history with the law here in Florida. :?

http://www.polksheriff.org/inq/pages/in ... 011-005068

no wonder she said Becksters her hero. Both are fraudsters. Lol
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:54 pm  •  [Post 17572]

Mykeru wrote: More alcoholics get a grjip on their own. AA tends to fuck with recovery and when an AAer relapses, they do it hard.


Did they randomly turn up to take blood or is this the result of a survey? The thing that frustrates me about anti-AA people is their inability to understand that alcoholics lie about their current alcohol intake.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:00 pm  •  [Post 17573]

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Sure, but unlike Jen this woman did something for the homeless.


Joke, bloody joke!

Do I have to put smileys everywhere?!?

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:05 pm  •  [Post 17574]

codelette wrote:
JackRayner wrote:Had that "Rebecca Watson at HFA 2012 conference" video playing in the background. Eight minutes in and I thought "What the fuck am I doing with my life?"

I'm gonna go find some new music to listen to instead...

By the way, the lady that did the intro for her? Creeps me out. I think it's great and all that she started a non-religious alternative to Alcoholics Anonymous, [if 12-stepping does indeed work...] but every time I hear her speak it makes me wonder if she really is keeping sober. Also...she's got a bit of a, um, troubled history with the law here in Florida. :?

http://www.polksheriff.org/inq/pages/in ... 011-005068

no wonder she said Becksters her hero. Both are fraudsters. Lol


In fairness to EllenBeth, the various charges she's been hauled up on look pretty trumped-up - especially as the people behind them are evangelical Xtians, and Lord knows how baboonish they can get: http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2011/07/was-ellenbeth-wachs-of-florida-arrested-for-being-an-atheist/

According to Reuters, Wachs first encountered Sheriff Judd in December, “when she filed several public-records requests to look into his decision to donate the Polk County jail’s basketball hoops and other equipment to local churches.” Wachs, a non-practicing lawyer, signed the request with the word “Esquire” after her name. That simple act caused Judd to dispatch what Wachs described as “about 20 paramilitary-garbed police” to arrest her on felony charges of illegally posing as a lawyer. Wach’s own attorney has said using “Esquire” doesn’t violate any bar rules.


And the other two arrests? One came in May, after Wachs allegedly tried to stop some neighbors from playing basketball outside her home by “moaning repeatedly in a sexual manner from an open window in her house, saying ‘Oh John,’ in a crescendo,” according to The New York Times. For that, officers arrested her on felony sex charges and conducted a search of her house, during which they took away a safe. The officers said they found marijuana in the safe, so they arrested Wachs a third time for marijuana possession. All three charges are still pending.


In a federal lawsuit filed against Polk County Sheriff Gracy Judd, who is an evangelical Christian,


Conservative religious leaders in Polk [County] say Wachs has it all wrong. Lynne Breidenbach, a Christian activist and media consultant for churches, says Wachs and other members of Atheists of Florida are the ones who are the cause of the ongoing problems. “This is a community of faith, and faith is very important to the people of Polk County, and if they (Wachs and other atheists) would like to live and work here as members of this community, they need to be more accommodating of us,” Breidenbach said.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ReneeHendricks » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:06 pm  •  [Post 17575]

You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:13 pm  •  [Post 17576]

cunt wrote:I just want to go over to it and swipe them all off with my forearm.

Uh oh, Happy Army can only fly in revenge daydreams. They will look better on the floor. Don't toddlers usually play with their toys and dolls on the floor anyways? They'll look less creepy there.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Phil_Giordana_FCD » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:14 pm  •  [Post 17577]

ReneeHendricks wrote:You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)


Common internet troll (Webtrollus vulgaris), I'd say. Sure sounds bitter, or just plain idiotic.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:19 pm  •  [Post 17578]

Scented Nectar wrote:
cunt wrote:I just want to go over to it and swipe them all off with my forearm.

Uh oh, Happy Army can only fly in revenge daydreams. They will look better on the floor. Don't toddlers usually play with their toys and dolls on the floor anyways? They'll look less creepy there.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:22 pm  •  [Post 17579]

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According to the Prune, Al Stefanelli has left FfTB! http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/10/metamorphoses-2/
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:24 pm  •  [Post 17580]

Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:26 pm  •  [Post 17581]

ReneeHendricks wrote:You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)

I think it's a sock to make her disagreers look extra bullying, rapey, and stuff, so I just tweeted: "@SammyBoal @rebeccawatson @pzmyers Hey weirdo, why go after her for ridiculous stuff? I sense a sock made to make her disagreers look bad."
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:30 pm  •  [Post 17582]

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According to the Prune, Al Stefanelli has left FfTB! http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/10/metamorphoses-2/

Fuck me! He didn't last long but I can't say I blame him.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ReneeHendricks » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:31 pm  •  [Post 17583]

Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.


I also read Ophelia says "new people" are joining FfTB soon and we'll "be thrilled", she promises. Yeah, I don't think so.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Outwest » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:33 pm  •  [Post 17584]

Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:34 pm  •  [Post 17585]

ReneeHendricks wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.


I also read Ophelia says "new people" are joining FfTB soon and we'll "be thrilled", she promises. Yeah, I don't think so.


Though I confess, if Amanda Marcotte and a resurgent Greg Laden are amongst them, I will - to quote GirlWritesWhat - shit myself with joy.

For all the right reasons, of course. :lol:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ReneeHendricks » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:35 pm  •  [Post 17586]

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ReneeHendricks wrote:You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)

I think it's a sock to make her disagreers look extra bullying, rapey, and stuff, so I just tweeted: "@SammyBoal @rebeccawatson @pzmyers Hey weirdo, why go after her for ridiculous stuff? I sense a sock made to make her disagreers look bad."


Saw that tweet (and subsequent responses). I'm not sure what @SammyBoal/AshleyF is hoping to accomplish. Even those who don't like Rebecca Watson and/or Jennifer McCreight are seeing the account as a disgusting little troll. I will *never* understand people like that.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby BarnOwl » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:36 pm  •  [Post 17587]

Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.


Comment #7 from Ophelia's post:

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On closer look, perhaps it isn’t sockpuppets on that thread but just a slimepit troll infestation. Some of the nyms make me suspicious of it, though.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:37 pm  •  [Post 17588]

Mykeru wrote:Check out The Orange Papers: http://www.orange-papers.org/. The short answer: Not only does Alcoholic's Anonymous's God/Not God program of learned helplessness and double think not work, but it's actually worse than doing nothing. More alcoholics get a grjip on their own. AA tends to fuck with recovery and when an AAer relapses, they do it hard.


What I remember from watching a Penn & Teller episode on the subject is that the success rate for all of these, and for people quitting on their own, is 5 percent. Seems pretty abysmal.

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I'm a little confused by this, Cunt. What did you mean by this? Are you for AA-type programs?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:39 pm  •  [Post 17589]

Tigzy wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.


I also read Ophelia says "new people" are joining FfTB soon and we'll "be thrilled", she promises. Yeah, I don't think so.


Though I confess, if Amanda Marcotte and a resurgent Greg Laden are amongst them, I will - to quote GirlWritesWhat - shit myself with joy.

For all the right reasons, of course. :lol:

Not even going to bother addresing the implications of hiring such a rabid misandrist as Marcotte but if Laden was ever allowed back onto FTB then there is no need whatsoever to point out hypocrisy within the FTB ranks ever again. They simply do not have the shame to care.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:41 pm  •  [Post 17590]

I was wondering throughout that podcast why the guy was still at FTB. It couldn't be the money and he sounds alright.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:48 pm  •  [Post 17591]

Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:51 pm  •  [Post 17592]

JackRayner wrote:
cunt wrote:The thing that frustrates me about anti-AA people is their inability to understand that alcoholics lie about their current alcohol intake.


I'm a little confused by this, Cunt. What did you mean by this? Are you for AA-type programs?


I grew up with AA. I'm for anything that gets alcoholics together and talking through their experiences.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Outwest » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:52 pm  •  [Post 17593]

JackRayner wrote:
Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...



I've been looking for it myself. Actually, it was a Storify from elevatorgate, and he tweeted it yesterday afternoon (my time - MST). Basically Natalie said when they were discussing what was to become A+ they first thought of the name, then a logo, then - get this - MERCHANDISING.

Sounds like it was a CON for the weak minded. Just wanted to make some cash, not really do anything. Sell junk-o-ramics, etc. to the sops that would jump onboard.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:52 pm  •  [Post 17594]

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Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...


Oops. I had this really weird thing where I read "Natalie Reed" but searched for "Amanda Marcotte" on Twitter instead. I have no idea how the fuck that happened, but disregard my last. :oops:
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:53 pm  •  [Post 17595]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Not even going to bother addresing the implications of hiring such a rabid misandrist as Marcotte but if Laden was ever allowed back onto FTB then there is no need whatsoever to point out hypocrisy within the FTB ranks ever again. They simply do not have the shame to care.


To be honest, that one of them might be Amanda Marcotte is more the truimph of hope over reason on my may part. It doesn't seem likely, given that she's already blogging with that Pandagon thing, but she does have a lot of fans on FfTB.

Laden though - yeah, I could see it happening. Steffy's been fighting his corner constantly - often backed up by Thimbledoo - and with such pals on the inside, as it were, Laden's return to FfTB is always a possibility. And in a lot of ways, I can FCers accepting Laden back into the fold for no other reason than to say a big 'Fuck you!' to their detractors.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:55 pm  •  [Post 17596]

Outwest wrote:
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Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...



I've been looking for it myself. Actually, it was a Storify from elevatorgate, and he tweeted it yesterday afternoon (my time - MST). Basically Natalie said when they were discussing what was to become A+ they first thought of the name, then a logo, then - get this - MERCHANDISING.

Sounds like it was a CON for the weak minded. Just wanted to make some cash, not really do anything. Sell junk-o-ramics, etc. to the sops that would jump onboard.


Here it is. Easier to find when you're looking at the correct person's page. :?

http://twitter.com/nataliereed84/status ... 1536650240
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Ape+lust » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:58 pm  •  [Post 17597]

Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.


If he got the boot, their timing couldn't be lousier. He just got done explaining FtB isn't a hivemind and that it's really hard to get axed. Oops.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Outwest » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:08 pm  •  [Post 17598]

JackRayner wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...


Oops. I had this really weird thing where I read "Natalie Reed" but searched for "Amanda Marcotte" on Twitter instead. I have no idea how the fuck that happened, but disregard my last. :oops:


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby acathode » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:08 pm  •  [Post 17599]

Guest wrote:I may be in the minority. It might also be due to the fact that I am surrounded by many religious people in my life, who even with views I consider flawed, are far kinder, caring and sincere than many of those who post over at FTB.
Living in Sweden, the amount of religious people I have to deal with IRL is less than I can count on one hand, but I frequent some Swedish sites with religious sub-forums where you can meet real, Swedish religious people (and a whole lot of atheists dogpiling them).

There I regularly speak with creationists and Muslims who want to stone all homosexuals in Sweden... and those guys come of as saner and more civil than a lot of the FTB commentators, or at least that was one of my first though the time when I first visited the FTB blogs, during the thunderf00t drama.

Didn't really take a lot to see through the FTBers after that demonstration of hate towards anyone who didn't follow the party line.

Tigzy wrote:Hmm. And Ophelia also wrote this:

Update: I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


I think Al's been Thunderf00ted for not toeing the party line.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby decius » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:12 pm  •  [Post 17600]

Watson is now spinning her own crap into a state of manifest confabulation.

For example, we learn that professor Dawkins "mocked me and suggested that I have no right to ask the men of our community to respect women".
Compare to "You may recall that I related an incident in which I was propositioned, and I said, 'Guys, don’t do that.' Really, that’s what I said. I didn’t call for an end to sex. I didn’t accuse the man in my story of rape. I didn’t say all men are monsters. I said, 'Guys, don’t do that.'".

The already questionable interpretation of an invitation for coffee as a sexual proposition has now morphed into "women being disrespected by men", which - contra her original defence - demonises propositions at large and, by extension, casual sex in the community (perhaps Watson will grant approval on a case-by-case basis).

Secondly, the blogger Elevatorgate gets tarred and feathered as an "harasser" for the heinous crime of mocking her Holy Cunt, since I couldn't find in his blog anything that could remotely be misconstrued as harassment. He is therefore banned from attending events, and Watson allegedly gets put under active protection by humanists turned bodyguards.

Watson probably is referring to, and lying about, Sacha when she mentions a "threatening woman" being prevented from attending an event, later on.

Then I just stopped listening because I can take only so much barefaced lying. However, the ease with which she bullshits entire audiences is simply astounding.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Gumby » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:14 pm  •  [Post 17601]

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That is offensive, sir! Offensive! How dare you use the word Kazoo as an insult. Don't you know it's insensitive to the people who can't afford your expensive "real" instruments!


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Gumby » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:16 pm  •  [Post 17602]

Mykeru wrote:You want sad? Give it a few years and pay a visit to a 40-something Rebecca Watson holding court in some hotel bar.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Scented Nectar » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:21 pm  •  [Post 17603]

ReneeHendricks wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)

I think it's a sock to make her disagreers look extra bullying, rapey, and stuff, so I just tweeted: "@SammyBoal @rebeccawatson @pzmyers Hey weirdo, why go after her for ridiculous stuff? I sense a sock made to make her disagreers look bad."


Saw that tweet (and subsequent responses). I'm not sure what @SammyBoal/AshleyF is hoping to accomplish. Even those who don't like Rebecca Watson and/or Jennifer McCreight are seeing the account as a disgusting little troll. I will *never* understand people like that.

I think it's a sock run by one of them in order to have rapey threats (and slurs against women's freedom of sexuality) to show people and go waaaa. Which of course would be intentionally conflated by them all as coming from the Slimepit. We don't tend to be rapey or against women's and men's equal freedom of sexuality. They want to think we are though.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby real horrorshow » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:30 pm  •  [Post 17604]

ReneeHendricks wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:You know, disagreeing with people like Jennifer McCreight and Rebecca Watson is one thing. What this person - https://twitter.com/SammyBoal - is doing is quite another, fucking repugnant, and I hope he/she/it isn't hanging around here on The Slyme Pit. If he/she/it is, please speak up so I can ignore your vile crap now. Thanks :)

I think it's a sock to make her disagreers look extra bullying, rapey, and stuff, so I just tweeted: "@SammyBoal @rebeccawatson @pzmyers Hey weirdo, why go after her for ridiculous stuff? I sense a sock made to make her disagreers look bad."


Saw that tweet (and subsequent responses). I'm not sure what @SammyBoal/AshleyF is hoping to accomplish. Even those who don't like Rebecca Watson and/or Jennifer McCreight are seeing the account as a disgusting little troll. I will *never* understand people like that.

Well, it's all a relief to me. I was so very tempted to create a TwittleTwat account last night and Twunt/Twerp something to Jen, but I looked at that stuff, and now I'm over it.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:38 pm  •  [Post 17605]

Gumby wrote:
Mykeru wrote:You want sad? Give it a few years and pay a visit to a 40-something Rebecca Watson holding court in some hotel bar.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:40 pm  •  [Post 17606]

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That one reminds me more of Steffy Zvan.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Saint N. » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:43 pm  •  [Post 17607]

I am curious tough, if he's really been kicked out, why Al hasn't directly mentioned it on his twitter yet (don't tell me Ophelia is setting up a Poe for us). Going on the more likely assumption it's all true, in the linked Ophelia post on Al I think this sentence leaves little doubt about the fact that Al was booted for voicing a dissenting opinion,

Ophelia wrote:I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


If he didn't know it was going to be his final post on FtB, then I can only infer that the removal is a one-sided decision. By coming out and saying this Ophelia is pretty much further legitimizing the claim that FtB is a dogmatic hivemind that doesn't allow dissent (like we needed more convincing, amirite). But I suspect, a few weeks from now she'll deny ever having made the claim at all and accuse us of making it up (just like the TAM-nazi comparison, the parallel logic reference, the fact that she didn't oppose the labeling of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and Dennet as white supremacists on a panel she was a part of, etc etc etc).
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:43 pm  •  [Post 17608]

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That one reminds me more of Steffy Zvan.

"Greg, what the fuck did you two just do together...?"


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JackRayner » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:44 pm  •  [Post 17609]

Outwest wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
JackRayner wrote:
Outwest wrote:Has anyone here commented on the Natalie Reed tweet yesterday that descibed how A+ was setup. It was to Rhys-Morgan.


Got a link to it? Just scrolled back to about Oct 6th on her page and did a Ctrl+F and the results turn to zero before I even enter the "s" in "@rhysmorgan"...


Oops. I had this really weird thing where I read "Natalie Reed" but searched for "Amanda Marcotte" on Twitter instead. I have no idea how the fuck that happened, but disregard my last. :oops:


Is it that "thing" you have for Mandy?


Hahahaha! Nah. [Doing a google image search confirms this.]

And actually, I hilariously did the same thing yesterday in response to a storify that EG posted about an exchange between Al and Natalie. Something along the lines of "I don't even know why he's bothering with that psychotic cunt", when the feminist I actually had in mind was Marcotte. :doh: The truth is that I have no idea who Natalie Reed is, though she certainly came across as a cunt in that storify.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:44 pm  •  [Post 17610]

Tigzy wrote:
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That one reminds me more of Steffy Zvan.

"Greg, what the fuck did you two just do together...?"


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby sacha » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:46 pm  •  [Post 17611]

Pitchguest wrote:- She's talking about a woman on a forum "dedicated to hating her" who was gonna attend a conference in San Fran. last year, anyone know who this is she's referring to?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:46 pm  •  [Post 17612]

Saint N. wrote:I am curious tough, if he's really been kicked out, why Al hasn't directly mentioned it on his twitter yet (don't tell me Ophelia is setting up a Poe for us). Going on the more likely assumption it's all true, in the linked Ophelia post on Al I think this sentence leaves little doubt about the fact that Al was booted for voicing a dissenting opinion,

Ophelia wrote:I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


If he didn't know it was going to be his final post on FtB, then I can only infer that the removal is a one-sided decision. By coming out and saying this Ophelia is pretty much further legitimizing the claim that FtB is a dogmatic hivemind that doesn't allow dissent (like we needed more convincing, amirite). But I suspect, a few weeks from now she'll deny ever having made the claim at all and accuse us of making it up (just like the TAM-nazi comparison, the parallel logic reference, the fact that she didn't oppose the labeling of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and Dennet as white supremacists on a panel she was a part of, etc etc etc).

Good point. Looking at that quote it does seem like he was kicked off.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mykeru » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:47 pm  •  [Post 17613]

codelette wrote: I mentioned that I come from a woman from a poor family, Hispanic and biracial (or as I say, half-nigger spic).


So, how does that half thing work? Is it right-side left side, from the waist down, or more or less evenly distributed?

Of course, due to statistical clumping, the last one is impossible.



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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:48 pm  •  [Post 17614]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
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That one reminds me more of Steffy Zvan.

"Greg, what the fuck did you two just do together...?"


"Calm down love, it was just a piece of sweetcorn."


I heard they're making their own version of Two Girls One Cup. Except with Laden involved, they're gonna call it Two Girls One Cup.

Saint N. wrote:I am curious tough, if he's really been kicked out, why Al hasn't directly mentioned it on his twitter yet (don't tell me Ophelia is setting up a Poe for us). Going on the more likely assumption it's all true, in the linked Ophelia post on Al I think this sentence leaves little doubt about the fact that Al was booted for voicing a dissenting opinion,

Ophelia wrote:I forgot to add Al’s farewell post (although he apparently didn’t think of it as such when he wrote it).


If he didn't know it was going to be his final post on FtB, then I can only infer that the removal is a one-sided decision. By coming out and saying this Ophelia is pretty much further legitimizing the claim that FtB is a dogmatic hivemind that doesn't allow dissent (like we needed more convincing, amirite). But I suspect, a few weeks from now she'll deny ever having made the claim at all and accuse us of making it up (just like the TAM-nazi comparison, the parallel logic reference, the fact that she didn't oppose the labeling of Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, and Dennet as white supremacists on a panel she was a part of, etc etc etc).


I'm honestly beginning to wonder if Al's even been told about his dismissal yet.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby acathode » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:49 pm  •  [Post 17615]

decius wrote:Secondly, the blogger Elevatorgate gets tarred and feathered as an "harasser" for the heinous crime of mocking her Holy Cunt, since I couldn't find in his blog anything that could remotely be misconstrued as harassment.
Actually, she accuses him of being a stalker, my transcription from 17:35:
Rebeca Watson wrote:and a few organization leaders have been fantastic, and I'll use this one as one example. I recently learned that another stalker of mine, a man who run a blog and a twitter account called ElevatorGate, lives in Florida not to far from here. I got in touch with the humanists and they listened to my concerns and they said, uhm, you know, we're going to keep you safe, we're not going to let this person in. I thought that that was an awesome response and the reason why I'm here. Also to pass some ... ah yes, can we get a round of applauds for how awesome it was.


In my book, a stalker is a whole lot more scarier than someone who just harass, with stalking there's a truckload of associations to real, physical danger to a person, and seriously creepy behavior. Pretty severe accusation to make, esp. when your friend DMCAd him to get hold of his personal details, and you then continue by apparently calling organizations and conferences to warn them of this "stalker". I think that could be called harassment and maybe even defamation/libel?
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