Periodic Table of Swearing

#15841

DownThunder wrote:<>

http://www.saasta.fi/saasta/wp-content/ ... mordor.jpg

#15842

Jonathan wrote: . One poster said "There isn't a single damn thing I could say that would even make it possible for Matt Dillahunty to understand what he did to me". He makes it sound as if Dillahunty set fire to his house and ran over his dog, rather than merely creating a second account on a forum. Ridiculous.

They overreact on everything. This is just another example of their hyperbolic nonsense. If you act like someone broke into your house on Christmas day and pissed on the kids at the slightest insult what the fuck have you got left when you are genuinely pissed off?

#15843

I'm almost amazed at the situation with Mat, to see so much outrage and galactic sized amount of butt-hurt over what has happened.

MAAaaaaaaaaaaat How could you do this to us MAAAAAaat WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh! The pain you've inflicted on us all, we may never recover from this! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

WOE IS US, WOE I TELL YOU, THANKS TO YOU WE HAVE ALL THE WOE, IN ALL THE WORLD!

Like the rest of you, I'm tempted to see what Mat will do now he is beginning to experience a little of what disagreeing visitors to the FtB sites have to go through!

#15844

Michael K Gray wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
So you've heard that too? Thought it was just the weirdo's where I live.
Are you not confusing twat with Twit?
Nope. There are a number of people where I live, parents (but not me) included, who think a pregnant fish is called a twat.
BTW are pregnant fish called twits?
No, but it was a very popular schoolyard meme back in the 1960's.
As very few fish are vivaporous(sp?), it would be bullshit anyway.

twat and twit were originally thought to be pregnant goldfish and then it was shortened to just "fish".

viviparous

#15845

Tigzy wrote:Why do I have this impression of St. Effy hanging around Laden's arse with a bucket and a trowel?

Bucket and trowel? Drinking straw more like

#15846

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Welcome Tickle (can I call you Tickle?). I'm still waiting for this fiasco to unroll, but it's interesting to know you were (allegedly) the cause for Matt's foray.

Cheers!

Q: How can you tell if a girl is ticklish?
A: Give her a couple of test tickles.

(Deliberately sexist: fuck the FC(n)!)

#15847

Hyperbole is the fuel of parody. Thats what makes the ftbers aplussers impossible to parody anymore. They are so hyperbolic that parody doesnt do justice to the absolute crazy they spout. I realised this around the time of the freethoughtblagh parody site. I love satire and parody, the mergence and use of comedy to highlight the absurdity of reality.

The awakening i had was that a lot of freethoughtblaghs was as if it was mirroring freethought blogs. And in some instances the blagh was actually more sensilble than the blog.

You just can't reason with people who are not reasonable. Plussers ftbers are not reasonable. They are ideologues, the association of the term atheist stains the term.

#15848

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Ok, maybe we were sidetracked all along. "Oolon" sounds suspiciously like "Udun", as in "Flame of Udun". Oolon might be a Maiar, placing him at the same level as Saruman and Mithrandir. He may be his own master.

Fine, enough Tolkien for me. I guess I was triggered by that RPG talk.

That won't stop me from twatting the cunt if he deserves it...

What does that make me?

#15849

Philip of Tealand wrote:I'm almost amazed at the situation with Mat, to see so much outrage and galactic sized amount of butt-hurt over what has happened.

MAAaaaaaaaaaaat How could you do this to us MAAAAAaat WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh! The pain you've inflicted on us all, we may never recover from this! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

WOE IS US, WOE I TELL YOU, THANKS TO YOU WE HAVE ALL THE WOE, IN ALL THE WORLD!

Like the rest of you, I'm tempted to see what Mat will do now he is beginning to experience a little of what disagreeing visitors to the FtB sites have to go through!

The "reaction" thread over there is quite amusing. One poster is leaving the forum forever because of the special treatment Dillahunty was given by not being banned immediately for sock-puppeting. The word "privilege" was thrown around with reckless abandon. Plus "doubling down", a phrase that I now really dislike.

#15850

Michael K Gray wrote:At the risk of seeming inflammatory, I found the LOtR tomes so utterly tedious, boring, stupid, infantile, badly written, riddled with plot defects so as to be quite unreadable.

Enjoyed it phenomenally when 12, less so when 18, can't read the shit since I turned 30 (22 years ago), except maybe the Hobbit which is playful. Some of his best work is in the short stories like Leaf by Niggle and especially Farmer Giles of Ham. Those two, of course, are heavy allegories for post-WW2 Britain. FGoH is HILARIOUS!

#15851

Lousy Shit confirms Surly Amy DID doc drop ElevatorGate's real name - which was then used to set up a parody Twitter account including his real name. Not only doc-dropping, but cyberstalking.

LousyConfirmsAmyDocDrop.jpg: (35.11 KiB) Downloaded 264 times

Gotcha!

:dance:

#15852

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
What?? Oolon a Maiar!? The same level as Sauron and the Balrogs (not to mention the wizards)? No way. Gollum, as was suggested previously, is sufficient for Oolon. A slimy creature famous for a dishonest yet obsequious personality? Soundls like Oolon to me.
A Balrog is a Flame of Udun, a Maiar. But I'll concede the Gollum reference, untill proven otherwise by the accused.

I did say I'd stop that Tolkien stuff, didn't I? Oh, yes, I did. My bad...

Gollum is Phil Plait - so that one is already taken. Original ERV Slime Pit

Balrog is JSH

#15853

Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Ok, maybe we were sidetracked all along. "Oolon" sounds suspiciously like "Udun", as in "Flame of Udun". Oolon might be a Maiar, placing him at the same level as Saruman and Mithrandir. He may be his own master.

Fine, enough Tolkien for me. I guess I was triggered by that RPG talk.
That won't stop me from twatting the cunt if he deserves it...

What does that make me?

Tom fucking Bombadil.

#15854

Matt's atttitude towards "social justice" will only change if (when) he gets divorced from Lady Macbeth. He wants a quiet life and that means acting like a bellend to appease the missus. There is nothing Matt won't leap to defend so long as his wife believes it needs defending.

She's a Marcotte fan-girrl BTW. Speaks for itself.

#15855

http://i.imgur.com/EHASa.jpg

I suggest that we all now call baldicunt Grag instead of Greg - it's a contraction of "Get off the rag".

Awesome find, BTW.

And Grag, we know you lurk here (I know your ego wouldn't allow you NOT to (plus there are several Hahvahd alum IPs being used, so it's a fair assumption in any case)), so get used to it...

We could also use it as a verb - to grag is to issue an unwarranted, misogynistic and ranty insult.

#15856

CommanderTuvok wrote:Lousy Shit confirms Surly Amy DID doc drop ElevatorGate's real name - which was then used to set up a parody Twitter account including his real name. Not only doc-dropping, but cyberstalking.

LousyConfirmsAmyDocDrop.jpg
Gotcha!

:dance:

What a weaselly cunt. Vacula didn't even doc drop and look at the shit he got but when Amy does it.........Fuck I don't even know why i am bothering. Fucking cunt.

#15857

The Pelagic Argosy wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Ok, maybe we were sidetracked all along. "Oolon" sounds suspiciously like "Udun", as in "Flame of Udun". Oolon might be a Maiar, placing him at the same level as Saruman and Mithrandir. He may be his own master.

Fine, enough Tolkien for me. I guess I was triggered by that RPG talk.
That won't stop me from twatting the cunt if he deserves it...

What does that make me?
Tom fucking Bombadil.

Fuck that shit, I want to be Tim Benzedrine - I forgot to mention BotR earlier, which is fucking hilarious too...

#15858

Lsuoma wrote:
The Pelagic Argosy wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Ok, maybe we were sidetracked all along. "Oolon" sounds suspiciously like "Udun", as in "Flame of Udun". Oolon might be a Maiar, placing him at the same level as Saruman and Mithrandir. He may be his own master.

Fine, enough Tolkien for me. I guess I was triggered by that RPG talk.
That won't stop me from twatting the cunt if he deserves it...

What does that make me?
Tom fucking Bombadil.
Fuck that shit, I want to be Tim Benzedrine - I forgot to mention BotR earlier, which is fucking hilarious too...

I'm too much of a LOTR fanboy to even pick up BOTR.

#15859

CommanderTuvok wrote:Lousy Shit confirms Surly Amy DID doc drop ElevatorGate's real name - which was then used to set up a parody Twitter account including his real name. Not only doc-dropping, but cyberstalking.

LousyConfirmsAmyDocDrop.jpg
Gotcha!

:dance:

Well we ALL know how much Oolon hates doc dropping no matter what it's for so lets sit back and watch him take Amy and Jason to task for this.......Or not.

#15860

Yeah, but the Baboons have acted as though Surly Amy's doc drop never happened. But now we know the truth.

Like Queen Bee, Surly Amy revealed private information that was not publically available. As stupid as Justin Vacula was for posting a link to Surly's business address, Vacula merely posted a link to information that was already available. He did not reveal PRIVATE information.

We won't hear the last of this.

#15861

Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

#15862

Manley wrote:Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

PZ, if you read this (and I have a strong suspicion that you will as it's pretty obvious you lurk) then shut the fuck up.

#15863

As usual, Peezus's clarifications are anything but - a mixture of insults, selective reading, sanctimony and outright falsehoods.

Scented's evidence is compelling, but he doesn't address any of it. I'm willing to believe that Peezus doesn't personally fiddle with the code, but the trickery is plain to see. In which case, most likely Brayton does. He would of course be better off if he rigged the system starting with the blogger who generates more genuine page views. Peezus should at the very least have asked about the anomaly in order to clear the air from the legitimate suspicions and treated Scented's work as a resource, not a nuisance.

Furthermore, Peezus was confident to generate more income by going solo and had stated as much before or during transitioning. Not that the ship is sinking, he has tuned his post-hocs accordingly.

#15864

Manley wrote:Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

Considering that PZ's hits are far higher than probably everyone else on FTB combined, the effect of him rigging an extra cash flow would not simply be that it is divided amongst the others - it would, in fact, disproportionately end up in his own pocket, the greedy lying fuck.
We can see the effect of this asset stripping of his co-bloggers in the recent departure of JT Everhard, Dan Fincke and Chris Hallqvist, all for monetary reasons (not much cream left when PZ's done with his skimming.)

#15865

Oloon commenting on PZ thread
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

oloon.PNG: Oloon comment; (11.78 KiB) Downloaded 270 times

I think oloon is missing the fact that this video of SN is 2 month old...

#15866

Manley wrote:Oloon commenting on PZ thread
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/
oloon.PNG
I think oloon is missing the fact that this video of SN is 2 month old...

That's just standard oolon practice, trying to squirm his way back up PZ's sphincter, greasing the way with lies.

#15867

Manley wrote:Oloon commenting on PZ thread
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/
oloon.PNG
I think oloon is missing the fact that this video of SN is 2 month old...

Or, more likely, he couldn't care less and is doing what he does best: Stirring shit and suck PZ's cock. Proof positive that males CAN multitask.

#15868

Jonathan wrote:The "reaction" thread over there is quite amusing. One poster is leaving the forum forever because of the special treatment Dillahunty was given by not being banned immediately for sock-puppeting. The word "privilege" was thrown around with reckless abandon. Plus "doubling down", a phrase that I now really dislike.

I hate "doubling down" too. It seems to mean "failure to immediately grovel and suck the collective arse in penance".

Lsuoma wrote: Farmer Giles of Ham... is HILARIOUS!

I'd forgotten that one. Yes, it is good.

sacha wrote: Gollum is Phil Plait - so that one is already taken. Original ERV Slime Pit.

I already said that! I swear , it's like I'm the token chick at the meeting here!

PeeZed:

Ed Brayton handles all the accounting and ad placement

Oh Ed. The guy who forgot to cancel Tf00t's access to the back channel after you crapped all over him? The back channel where you debated stealing his share of the money? Well that's a safe pair of hands!

oolon** · #15869

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Manley wrote:Oloon commenting on PZ thread
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/
oloon.PNG
I think oloon is missing the fact that this video of SN is 2 month old...
Or, more likely, he couldn't care less and is doing what he does best: Stirring shit and suck PZ's cock. Proof positive that males CAN multitask.

Ahh it was recycled bullshit, I thought there might have been some new output from here to counter the JV resignation points lost.

Very funny to see the OffensivAtheist get a porcupine'y reception here. I'd seen him get all upset about FtBs on the JV resignation post myself - seems like he will fit in here perfectly. Interesting how you lot react when you think you have one little troll here. Me amazingly, even though I've started giving troll warnings to any inflammatory suggestions and have never posted without my name on it (Well once by accident but I clarified instantly)

Then you use the Pharyngulites thorny reception of newbies as proof positive of their iniquity. Ignoring the fact that they get hundreds of trolls which they have to deal with. The Slimepit sure is a hypocrisy free zone...

#15870

Hey, what's up with Oolon's account. I want to set the vacuous little twit to "ignore" and the system ain't letting me.

#15871

I love it when Oolon lumps the Pit together as a hive mind with phrases like "you lot" and then moandslike a bitch when we do the same thing about the baboons. Fuck off Oolon you homophobic little wank.

#15872

Angry_Drunk wrote:Hey, what's up with Oolon's account. I want to set the vacuous little twit to "ignore" and the system ain't letting me.

He knows that while no one would ban him here, a lot would but him on 'ignore', defeating the purpose of him derping here. So he 'forgot' his login info and wont reset the password/get a new account. :roll:

Also, for the millionth time-- I keep seeing people here talking about 'beer' and 'coffee' and 'tea'. We have NONE of those things in the Slime Pit. NONE.

We do have:
1. Mountain Dew
2. Crab juice

THATS IT.

Stop confusing the newbs.

#15873

CommanderTuvok wrote:Lousy Shit confirms Surly Amy DID doc drop ElevatorGate's real name - which was then used to set up a parody Twitter account including his real name. Not only doc-dropping, but cyberstalking.

LousyConfirmsAmyDocDrop.jpg
Gotcha!

:dance:

WTF is with the "hir" reference? Are they too scared to use real terms anymore?

#15874

Badger3k wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote:Lousy Shit confirms Surly Amy DID doc drop ElevatorGate's real name - which was then used to set up a parody Twitter account including his real name. Not only doc-dropping, but cyberstalking.

LousyConfirmsAmyDocDrop.jpg
Gotcha!

:dance:
WTF is with the "hir" reference? Are they too scared to use real terms anymore?

They could have at least made it much less confusing. At the moment it looks like a typo of "her".

oolon** · #15875

Dick Strawkins wrote: Oolon has admitted on various FTB sites that what he does here is simply trolling. He is not engaging with us. He is trying to wind us up, taking the piss and attempting to stir up fights.

I wouldn't mind if he was simply pointing out hypocrisy or double standards on our part. That's what we do with the FTB crowd and so we should be prepared to take it as well as give it.
Oolon, however, doesn't do that. On the FTB boards he lies through his teeth about what we do and say here and when he comes here, posing 'innocent' questions, he either ignores out of hand any reasonable responses, or deliberately posts nasty shit, like his homophobic reference to Josh, just to muddy the waters and make it seem like such behavior is the norm here - when the sole person partaking in this action is himself.
He is a nasty, homophobic liar.
But, of course, his lies help the FTB cause so they won't ban him.

The description of him as FTBs Sal Cordova are spot on.

Cheers Dick, its always good to laugh. You know the lack of moderation and editting of posts on here (Unlike the evil FtBs, of course) makes it pretty easy for me to link to the original post where I put "..that faggot Josh..." in quotes. Then where I apologised for wrongly attributing it to the slymepit. The desperation that it will catch on is hilarious... Let's say it did. Do you think I'm quaking in my boots that those horrible slimepitters will make up some oolon is a homophobe meme! Ha! I have no credibility but that is still a lot more than the years of negative cred you have built up over the years. Please carry on. Add the "... that nigger Crommunist.." quote as from me as well, I appreciate your trolling :clap:

Apart from your amusing attempts to troll me, I don't appreciate lies ->

Dick Strawkins wrote:Oolon has admitted on various FTB sites that what he does here is simply trolling. He is not engaging with us. He is trying to wind us up, taking the piss and attempting to stir up fights.

I came over here to see what was so bad about a den of people obsessed with FtBs/skepchick. I was quite amazed at the negative credibility they give you since the slimepitters I argued with on Thunderf00ts blog seemed a fairly harmless bunch of tin foil hatters mixed in with some insane MRAs.

I was surprised at the level of pleasant discourse here... As mentioned above it just took longer to degenerate here - same as Pharyngula disagree enough and you are decided a troll then that is that. They are quicker to make that leap... I did wonder why, but it is clear you are so unused to perceived 'trolls' (defn: People disagreeing with you) that you are not as sensitive as them. Maybe I should have worked it out from the Steersman is as bad as a FtB-baboon discussion. My bad.

**ERV** If you want to reset my account and email me a password at oolon @ btinternet. com you are welcome. Might be good for the sanity of some of your regulars if I can use my official account as they seem to have developed some paranoia with me posting semi-anonymously... Oh you too!

#15876

Also- Ladens SB is full of golden turds like that. From both Greg and Steffie and them together.

Thats one of the ways I knew it was Greg (though I hadnt thought about Stefunny) who was bitching to NatGeo. Myers knows that 95% of his posts would be taken down if NatGeo ever decides to censor, and SB Pharyngula is a mindless cash machine for PZ. If PZ had done it, he would be literally paying for it with a substantial amount of cash, and he doesnt care THAT much ($$$$$>Aâ€ ).

Laden is the only one stupid enough to *try* to get NatGeo to censor, even though it would have also effected him.

The fact that Myers/Ladens/etc offensive posts and comment threads have stayed up is, of course, evidence that NatGeo is not overly interested in censorship, but again, Greg is too stupid to understand this, so he thinks that the threads being taken down via NatGeo :roll:

I genuinely dont think Laden understands how his actions would have negatively impacted *him*. He is one stupid fuck.

#15877

ERV wrote:
Angry_Drunk wrote:Hey, what's up with Oolon's account. I want to set the vacuous little twit to "ignore" and the system ain't letting me.
He knows that while no one would ban him here, a lot would but him on 'ignore', defeating the purpose of him derping here. So he 'forgot' his login info and wont reset the password/get a new account. :roll:

Also, for the millionth time-- I keep seeing people here talking about 'beer' and 'coffee' and 'tea'. We have NONE of those things in the Slime Pit. NONE.

We do have:
1. Mountain Dew
2. Crab juice

THATS IT.

Stop confusing the newbs.

BLEEAGH! I'll take the crab juice.

#15878

I'm not convinced that they actually do get hundreds of trolls. I don't think they can tell well intended newbie or person with reasonable criticism apart from a legitimate troll. I think it is very reasonable to believe that Matt's sock would have been banned as a troll, like Skep Tickle and others, if he hadn't revealed and been banned for being a sock first.

This behavior dates back at least to EG where people with questions were dismissed as misogynistic MRAs while simultaneously having rape jokes told about them. I know the questions were reasonable because I granted FtB was probably right but I wanted those clarifications too. The people saying hateful things weren't banned, they were supported by PZ banning the dissenters who were all labeled as various kinds of troll.

#15879

Oolon truly IS the gift that keeps on giving. He makes the case that cunt and twat are misogynistic terms because some women, somewhere believe it is, and we as a forum are misogynistic for using those words/allowing their use, despite being informed about the mystical secret that some words can have multiple meanings.
He then expects us all to give him the benefit of the doubt over his "mistake" of saying we are fine with the word "faggot" in reference to JoshTheSpokesArse.

Not happening. Stop being a sneaky shit stirrer for two minutes and you might gain a level of trust but until then you are a dishonest bellend.

#15880

Tony Parsehole wrote:Oolon truly IS the gift that keeps on giving. He makes the case that cunt and twat are misogynistic terms because some women, somewhere believe it is, and we as a forum are misogynistic for using those words/allowing their use, despite being informed about the mystical secret that some words can have multiple meanings.
He then expects us all to give him the benefit of the doubt over his "mistake" of saying we are fine with the word "faggot" in reference to JoshTheSpokesArse.

Not happening. Stop being a sneaky shit stirrer for two minutes and you might gain a level of trust but until then you are a dishonest bellend.

He's been caught lying too many times.

Oolon, don't worry, you can still post here.
Just don't expect anyone to believe a word you say.

#15881

Manley wrote:Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

WTF?! He can explain HOW it happened all he wants. I just showed that it WAS happening. If he points at Ed instead, fine. Hey, at least they know now about the ability to put ads on comment feeds. That should increase that "pool" he mentions, for everyone! Yay! :)

#15882

Scented Nectar wrote:
Manley wrote:Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/
WTF?! He can explain HOW it happened all he wants. I just showed that it WAS happening. If he points at Ed instead, fine. Hey, at least they know now about the ability to put ads on comment feeds. That should increase that "pool" he mentions, for everyone! Yay! :)

Good catch with that video.

#15883

decius wrote:As usual, Peezus's clarifications are anything but - a mixture of insults, selective reading, sanctimony and outright falsehoods.

Scented's evidence is compelling, but he doesn't address any of it. I'm willing to believe that Peezus doesn't personally fiddle with the code, but the trickery is plain to see. In which case, most likely Brayton does. He would of course be better off if he rigged the system starting with the blogger who generates more genuine page views. Peezus should at the very least have asked about the anomaly in order to clear the air from the legitimate suspicions and treated Scented's work as a resource, not a nuisance.

Furthermore, Peezus was confident to generate more income by going solo and had stated as much before or during transitioning. Not that the ship is sinking, he has tuned his post-hocs accordingly.

PZ absolutely HATES to consider it when an "enemy" makes a point. Here is the video in question, the one he says he's refusing to link to. Note that there is an annotation overtop of it (unless you've changed yt setting to not show them), which explains to all of the FTBloggers there how they can do it too.

[youtube]zUsKJafefdw[/youtube]
The comment section referred to in the annotation

#15884

Regarding genderless pronouns I prefer "they" over made up words. If "they" usually being plural bothers you, then I find it helps to think of people as hives of intelligent ants piloting humanoid robots. Helps rationalize why people seem sane one day and crazy the next too!

#15885

Manley wrote:Hi, everyone.
Some new stuff from PZ .
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ification/

Gee, I didn't know PZ had left SB.

I think one of the main attractions of FfTBs for PZ has been the power he has over his co-"bloggers" and the backchannel. There he gets to pull the strings of all his de facto socks to look like there's a movement that isn't just a movement of sycophants.

#15886

LMU wrote:I find it helps to think of people as hives of intelligent ants piloting humanoid robots

You're weird! I like it.

#15887

Those zany fun loving freethought folks at the TSB are at it again, and once more reflecting the new Kanukistan obsession with bathrooms have jumped on the bandwagon.

â€˜Zheâ€™ & â€˜Hirâ€™: Toronto School Board guidelines on gender identity allow for non-masculine/feminine pronouns
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/04 ... -pronouns/

On the issue of washrooms, the guidelines note that all students have the right to use a bathroom that â€œbest corresponds to the studentâ€™s gender identity, regardless of the studentâ€™s sex assigned at birth.â€ Requiring a student to â€œproveâ€ their gender through a doctorâ€™s letter or identity documents is unacceptable, the board says.

Further, â€œstudents who wish to use pronouns other than the masculine or the feminine (such as â€˜zheâ€™ and â€˜hirâ€™) need to be accommodated equally,â€ the guidelines note.

#15888

LMU wrote:Regarding genderless pronouns I prefer "they" over made up words. If "they" usually being plural bothers you, then I find it helps to think of people as hives of intelligent ants piloting humanoid robots. Helps rationalize why people seem sane one day and crazy the next too!

Quite agree; much prefer â€œtheyâ€ and â€œthemâ€ than ridiculous neologisms like â€œxeâ€ and the like. Apparently neologisms have to be around for a generation or two before they lose than moniker .... time to put a stake or two through the hearts of those particular ones ....

But "they" is sort of like the royal We â€“ everyone gets to be king of all of the mindless robots running about in the hives that are individual persons .... :-)

#15889

Tony Parsehole wrote:Oolon truly IS the gift that keeps on giving. He makes the case that cunt and twat are misogynistic terms because some women, somewhere believe it is, and we as a forum are misogynistic for using those words/allowing their use, despite being informed about the mystical secret that some words can have multiple meanings.
He then expects us all to give him the benefit of the doubt over his "mistake" of saying we are fine with the word "faggot" in reference to JoshTheSpokesArse.

Not happening. Stop being a sneaky shit stirrer for two minutes and you might gain a level of trust but until then you are a dishonest bellend.

Why donâ€™t you tell Oolon what to do with a dead porcupine and then your passage to the â€œDark Sideâ€ will be complete? I thought â€œweâ€ were supposed to be above vituperative language and running people off without a fair shake and an honest discussion? ....

As far as your â€œcunt and twat being misogynistic termsâ€ I think, as I discussed in some detail upthread, that it depends on the ear â€“ and biases â€“ of the listener. But if there are cases where those terms arenâ€™t misogynistic, regardless of whether there are cases where they are, then I think one can make the same case for â€œniggerâ€ and â€œfaggotâ€.

For instance I think that when some women or some blacks or some homosexuals attempt to claim far more swag for those attributes than is justified â€“ wrapping themselves in the flag of convenience or not, when they are being particularly obnoxious about those, then I think that the corresponding epithets would be entirely justified and I at least would not be averse to using them. And without expecting that any other holders of said attributes are likely to be offended â€“ unless they see themselves as being equally obnoxious ....

#15890

LMU wrote:Regarding genderless pronouns I prefer "they" over made up words.

Or:
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Brain Box · #15891

Allowing transgender students access to bathrooms is perfectly acceptable and the correct moral position, however butchering the English language to accommodate a fringe political movement is ridiculous.

AndrewV69 wrote:Those zany fun loving freethought folks at the TSB are at it again, and once more reflecting the new Kanukistan obsession with bathrooms have jumped on the bandwagon.

â€˜Zheâ€™ & â€˜Hirâ€™: Toronto School Board guidelines on gender identity allow for non-masculine/feminine pronouns
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/04 ... -pronouns/
On the issue of washrooms, the guidelines note that all students have the right to use a bathroom that â€œbest corresponds to the studentâ€™s gender identity, regardless of the studentâ€™s sex assigned at birth.â€ Requiring a student to â€œproveâ€ their gender through a doctorâ€™s letter or identity documents is unacceptable, the board says.

Further, â€œstudents who wish to use pronouns other than the masculine or the feminine (such as â€˜zheâ€™ and â€˜hirâ€™) need to be accommodated equally,â€ the guidelines note.

#15892

Wow, some nasty shit by PZ here.
He knows very well that the start of the incident about the nasty bullying of Steff McGraw and yet he thinks it's fine to lie his face off, that the whole thing is Abbie being jealous that the "lesser assault" on Watson was taken seriously.

The starting point was Watsonâ€™s elevator incident. Abbie was furious about it â€” as I recall she was upset that apparently she was once assaulted and the police were pissants about believing her (I can understand how she was angry about that), and somehow that has been translated into outrage when lesser assaults against a woman are actually believed.

Iâ€™m not going to dig back into the archives. It was ugly. But really, if she canâ€™t get justice for an insult, sheâ€™s going to make sure no one elseâ€™s grievances are taken seriously.

Lesser asault?
WTF

Some idiot asked Watson for coffee.
She said no.

How the fuck is this an assault?

I notice he's also lied about leaving scienceblogs.

What a scumbag.

#15893

I think its cute Myers is feigning knowledge about how much he makes from blogging. Loftus knows how much Myers made at FfTB. I know how much Myers made from SB (though not anymore-- he hides his stats and our group stats arent available anymore).

And, yes, he is absolutely leeching off NatGeo and the SciBlogs network. His "10% of what he used to get" is from Google hits. There are not hundreds of thousands of people checking out kick ass science posts like this:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012 ... alloweeny/

Stealing is stealing, Myers. And whatever you are now getting paid by the SciBlogs network is bullshit, and you know it.

#15894

Steersman wrote: Why donâ€™t you tell Oolon what to do with a dead porcupine and then your passage to the â€œDark Sideâ€ will be complete? I thought â€œweâ€ were supposed to be above vituperative language and running people off without a fair shake and an honest discussion? ....

I think we have given oolon a very fair shake. He has admitted on pharyngula that he's taking the piss here. His malicious lies have been pointed out on numerous occasions.
I don't agree with going all pharyngula on anyone but oolon doesnt deserve special treatment that protects his dishonest actions.

#15895

@ Steersman.
If Oolon didn't have a history of running off to FTB and misrepresenting what actually is being said here, outright lying, and being utterly inconsistent then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. As it stands I don't trust him as far as I could fling him and as a consequence I believe his "error" was done in bad faith.

As far as dead porcupines go and where to put them...meh. Anybody who thinks that's funny and/or insulting needs to get out more.

Incidentally Oolon. What is your position on the revelation that SurlyAmy did dox Elevatorgate and gave his their name out even though it wasn't public information (unlike her address/business details)?

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Steersman wrote:Why donâ€™t you tell Oolon what to do with a dead porcupine and then your passage to the â€œDark Sideâ€ will be complete? I thought â€œweâ€ were supposed to be above vituperative language and running people off without a fair shake and an honest discussion? ....

Firstly, there is mounting evidence that Oolon is being rather disingenuous. After a while people no longer have an obligation to assume good faith on his* part when engaging with him.

Secondly, asking him to refrain from this behaviour is in no way comparable with the "porcupine"-style language which can easily - by the standards set at FTB, for example - be interpreted as an encouragement to self-harm.

*maybe that should be hir

#15897

Brain Box wrote:Allowing transgender students access to bathrooms is perfectly acceptable and the correct moral position, however butchering the English language to accommodate a fringe political movement is ridiculous.

Reasonable people do not need "policys" or "guidelines".

I know I would come out of the closet, and as a lesbian trapped in a male body, demand my "rights" be respected to be freed from the opression of having to use the showers in front of a bunch of men.

Pay no attenttion to the hard on while I am showering with the females, just do not drop the soap. OK?

#15898

AndrewV69 wrote:
On the issue of washrooms, the guidelines note that all students have the right to use a bathroom that â€œbest corresponds to the studentâ€™s gender identity, regardless of the studentâ€™s sex assigned at birth.â€ Requiring a student to â€œproveâ€ their gender through a doctorâ€™s letter or identity documents is unacceptable, the board says.

Further, â€œstudents who wish to use pronouns other than the masculine or the feminine (such as â€˜zheâ€™ and â€˜hirâ€™) need to be accommodated equally,â€ the guidelines note.

Great. While I'm aware of noxious radfems wanting to bar male->female trans folk from the 'wimmins' room, and I dislike it. This scheme, in a school, will a gift to bullies. "Yeah I can follow you in here if I want, it's the law."

And the pronouns! There must be a dozen different schemes for 'gender neutral' pronouns floating about and nothing to stop kids making up their own. Teachers are going to have to memorise all of them?

#15899

real horrorshow wrote:
LMU wrote:Regarding genderless pronouns I prefer "they" over made up words.
Or:
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Exactly! :lol:

#15900

[quote="AndrewV69"Reasonable people do not need "policys" or "guidelines".[/quote]

True, but how many reasonable people work in the school system? I'm sure they must exist, but I've never met one.