Scented Nectar wrote:
AKAHorace wrote:Wait, Jason is claiming that Justin Vacula gave out Surly Amy's home address ? Is this true ?
Background: Justin got DMCA'd by Amy for showing a pic of her necklace in an article about her (considered Fair Use as far as copyrights go). He appealed it, and that process requires him giving out his own real name/address. The next step would have been for her to file legal papers where her name/address would get revealed.
So, they accused Justin, saying that he was appealing just to find out Amy's address. He said no, that wouldn't be necessary since Amy has already made her own address public on a business listings website. To prove it, he showed the listing that Amy herself had made public. When he copied it here to the Slimepit, they suddenly accused him of docdropping, said Amy has to move now, and then they proceeded to docdrop Justin, who's info was NOT listed publicly the way Amy's was.
They know the real story and that Justin never docdropped Amy, but they are cherry picking just his copying of it to the Slimepit, to make it look like he did.
That was an excellent summary, SN.
I think we need to begin to bookmark explanations and background of specific "events" that have been discussed here at length.
When the conversation about the situation is finally at rest, and we have moved on, someone new, or someone who was not reading here at the time of the incident, brings it up and either comments without any knowledge, or more commonly asks about it.
It would be nice to have a list of links we could access that explain all of the incidents that have been spoken about at length, and instead of repeating, and perhaps forgetting something, or responding quickly without all the background, because it is just more repetition for us, we could just give them a few links to read, which will at least get them up to date with what was said about it here.
I really can't be arsed to explain (or correct) the details to anyone any longer, even though I would like them to know. I would need to go back and research to make sure I did not remember something incorrectly, and that I am including all of the relevant information, which is far too much work
to do for someone else.
The information is all here or in the ERV archives, but I do understand that it is a lot to wade through in order to find what one is looking for, even when one has read every comment since the beginning. The way around this, is to have a summary like SN wrote here, for every incident we can think of, and put them all in one place, and they can look up more detail if they choose to, or the other option is to begin to make a list of a few detailed comments for each topic from the time it was first discussed here, that are self-explanatory, and enough to get an clear idea of what transpired. I wish someone had thought of that way back in the beginning at ERV, but I don't think any of us expected this many people to join in on the Slime Pit conversation back then. At least I
did not consider that.
The person who seems to have the most patience for going back, finding the relevant information, quoting what was said, documenting the link to each relevant comment, and then explaining the history clearly and rather thoroughly, even though this is the second or third, or fourth time he has had to explain it, is Justi.
and since I would not hold my breath for his return, nor would I expect he would want to be responsible for an essay or video on every bloody incident, perhaps those that have the time and patience would be willing to choose just one topic each. I think many of us would be willing to help find links, or help to write the summary.
There have been many times that a debate, or heated argument has ensued, and quite often we do not agree on numerous things like intent, or appropriate action, or reaction. For fuck sake CK is STILL being argued over here on occasion, and back at the original Slime Pit something which will not be named
, (please, I beg you. Let it lie. If someone just HAS to know, they can ask someone, not me
, who was there at the time in a private message, then do a search, and then keep it to themselves
) caused a similar endless argument that went on for what seemed to be an eternity, and it would never
have been put to rest without an enormous amount of effort from numerous people to just move on.
The best way around that is to just relay the facts with the equivalent of an online poker face. No spin, no propaganda, no opinions, no emotions. Just a summary of events to access when needed.
A derail the discussion here in order to get someone up to date is annoying enough, but then to have them respond with their opinions, feelings on the matter, if they approve, and expect a complete dissection of every facet to be discussed and debated here for the second, or third time is a bloody tedious bore
They can go back and read all of our comments on the subject and they can have their fucking repeat, broken record conversation with themselves
, or with whomever they choose, as long as it is away from here. Please go talk about it until everyone involved is annoyed and exhausted, go ahead, enjoy yourselves, but do not assume everyone wants to participate or be a spectator.
(Hi Spectator! You
are always a pleasure)
It is the very worst type of derail. Expecting everyone to be patient and quiet, while they discuss every little thing in detail, and have the same disagreements and arguments, because they missed the conversation the first time. It is self-absorbed behaviour
It is only going to get more difficult, as we are already 15110 comments just since July, and more new commenters regularly.Let me make it clear. I welcome new people, I do not mind at all if a question is asked about something they missed. If there was a list of links that summerised some drama, I would be more than happy to look at the list until I found the relevant links, and respond politely with the linked information. It is not inquires that are the problem. Questions are more than welcome, and I see the majority of those that missed something, doing just that.
If you were home sick that day, or just moved to the neighbourhood, you will be given everything you need in order to catch up with the rest of the class. Think of it as homework. If you want time to discuss it with the teacher, you need to wait until after school. If another classmate is willing to take the time to help you, it has to be done elsewhere, so the other children are able to move forward.
and for the new people that don't know me, yes, I am a cunt...
but I can also take it as well as give it.
"If you want to shame me about something, you've got to pick something I'm ashamed of" -franc
"humans as a whole are simply maladjusted animals with delusions of grandeur." -AndrewV69
It's s-a-C-h-a - with a C - as in cunt