Aneris wrote:clownshoe wrote:Aneris wrote: <inner quotes removed>
I found it creepy, too. Yet, when I see it is immediately made into a Slymepit thing, my reaction isn't caving in and somehow accept her interpretation. Especially since their side has choked communication alltogether, I have no desire lending the few sentences that get through to demagogues and manipulators.
I want to know why my tweet is included on her page?
My tweet was calling bullshit on LazySavant's claims that because he never @'d her, she shouldn't call him a harasser. Since she didn't include the LazySavant tweet I responded to, my tweet is out of context but hopefully clearly isn't an example of harassment.
LazySavant's tweet is a Jerry
Coyne Conlon level of utter stupid.
Indeed, why us anyone on her page?
1) some dude makes a tasteless tweet
2) Zvan blames the slymepit
3) Slymepit is pissed off, some back and forth
4) Zvan takes samples from Slymepit to justify her means.
5) Commentariat doesn't notice anything, no critical though whatsoever.
Authoritarians Summary wrote:describes the lack of logic in their thinking; when they like the conclusion, how that conclusion was arrived at is irrelevant. When they like the behaver, the behavior is acceptable; when they dislike the behaver, the behavior is not. [...] He then goes on to describe high Social Dominators. These people want power, and they don’t much care how they get it. “The end justifies the means†is their guiding principle.
The thing I noticed right at the outset of the schism was the fact that they really do see the whole thing as a battle of good and evil. Any insult made against someone on their team is unjustified (since they are good) and all insults against them are grouped together, hence a peurile act of calling one of them fat, ugly or stupid, is conflated with the worst a troll can fling - death wishes, threats etc.
And any insults made against any of their ideological opponents is really an opposition to evil and so totally justified.
In this way you can have Steph Svan and Ophelia Benson, two D-list bloggers with A-list self images, spending their days flinging insults far and wide (calling people shits, liars, rape supporters, stupid etc) and yet any splashback from people they have childishly insulted is instantly considered blasphemy against their holy name.
I try to avoid making jokes or insults based purely on appearances but I hope that any reasonable person can see a difference between those kind of jokes and genuine death threats and therefore realise the danger in pretending they are in some way equal ("I seriously think we should phone the FBI".) To equate them is to show a disgusting level of disregard for genuine cases of harassment that involve threats of violence.
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Great American Satan
November 8, 2013 at 11:14 pm (UTC -6)
“Just a fat joke†is a pretty loathsome defense, especially since the substance of the joke is about total dehumanization unto death. Hm, random google result about the relationship between being fat and thinking about death:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/121972.php … Yes, “just a fat joke,†totally harmless… *hurk*
These asshats push every button in a guy with their utter disregard for human lives, and when someone like Tethys finally blows up a little and gives a fraction of the evil back that these guys put out, they crow about it like, “oh, see, they’re so wicked and evil. Two sides!†I, like Tethys, find it extremely difficult to refrain from using the language of violence with these creeps. And so I will stop talking now.
They come across as mentally unhinged.
I don't think Svan does, though.
She is an evil manipulator who enjoys twisting those idiots around her fingers.
But Svan, as I know you are reading this, I think you should be aware, you might fool some of the FTB sycophants all of the time, but anyone with any sense has seen though your crass machiavellian schemes long ago. The atheist/skeptical community has a lot of people with sense; all you've done is purged them from
your side.
You think we should care more about childish jokes made about you by random people we don't know, rather than threats of violence and comparisons of ourselves to terrorist bombers made by your own supporters (and hosted by you on your blog)?
Really?