So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
Post by Catherine » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:45 am
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[youtube]VKs0oEIVOck[/youtube]: Effects of not having privilege
by Garnet » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:58 am
Because I am obese, I am labeled as lazy.
Because I am obese, I am told that I have no discipline.
Because I am obese, I am considered to be stupid and stinky.
Because I am obese, I am simultaneously the most visible and the most invisible person anywhere.
Because I am obese, I am verbally abused, taunted and bulled, often times by complete strangers.
Because I am obese, I have been repeatedly sexually harassed because "fat girls are easy."
Because I am obese, I have been told that I should just die so normal people don't have to look at me.
Because I am obese, I am the "Fat Friend" and the "Last Choice."
Because I am obese, it is culturally acceptable to denigrate and marginalize me based solely on my appearance.
Because I am obese, I am of little worth except as a convenient target.
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Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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I just read all of it.
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That privilege thread has me wondering why they haven't thought to recuit Bob Ducca to be the face of Atheism plus yet.
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Fuck sake! That thread has got to be the most nauseating display of self pity I've ever seen. I think that pedophile is for real too.franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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Looks like they've noticed that. From the original post:Guest wrote:Fuck sake! That thread has got to be the most nauseating display of self pity I've ever seen. I think that pedophile is for real too.franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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Edit 2: Further Trigger warning to beware of skepticallyinclined's completely out of line post, hopefully a mod will remove it
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I know that Greta Christina has defended pedophelia in the past (at least forms of pedophelic pornography that don't involve actual child abuse - for example photoshopping pictures of children or animated child characters that are shown having sex with adults.Guest wrote:Fuck sake! That thread has got to be the most nauseating display of self pity I've ever seen. I think that pedophile is for real too.franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
Post by Catherine » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:45 am
Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
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But is SkepticallyInclined taking the piss out of them? Or are they really that fucked up. (Sorry, its gotten so I cant tell the players anymore without a scorecard. Yes, I see the "Edit 2" but still: a whiner who went to far or a parody? You cant tell with these guys.)Guest wrote:Fuck sake! That thread has got to be the most nauseating display of self pity I've ever seen. I think that pedophile is for real too.franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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Hmmmmm. A real pity party going on i see. So a bunch of them are establishing themselves as victims and hence entitled to some sort of future dispensation/compensation/license?franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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Because I have one testicle bigger than the other I have to put up with gentlemens outfitters laughing in the cutting room.
Because the world is round I have to go round it instead of going in straight lines
Because I have ginger hair I have to lead a lonely unshaggable existence
right....off ye go...
Because the world is round I have to go round it instead of going in straight lines
Because I have ginger hair I have to lead a lonely unshaggable existence
right....off ye go...
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Hmmm.Dick Strawkins wrote:Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Well if it is the same guy who was soliciting advise on the baboon board, he said then he is a non-practitioner, but he is scared of seeing a shrink because of what may happen afterwards. Assuming that all of this is true he does have a problem.
(this was when PeeZuss was having a hissy fit about comments in rot13 and so on in the comments).
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Because I am male, people think I am a rapist.franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
Post by Catherine » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:45 am
Because I am male, I have to cross the street when I see a woman.
Because I am male, I cannot breast feed. (Not that it has stopped infants from trying.)
Becasue I am male, I am discouraged from caring for kids.
Because I am male, I cannot wear a skirt.
Because I am rich, people assume I can lend them money.
Becuase I am rich, I have to pay others to do my taxes.
Because I am rich, my house costs more to heat.
Because I am rich, people want to tax me more.
Because I am rich, I am expected to join a country club.
Because I am sarcastic, I have to write posts like this.
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Looks genuine to me - that person has made 12 posts there & none of the others look like piss takes.Dave wrote:But is SkepticallyInclined taking the piss out of them? Or are they really that fucked up. (Sorry, its gotten so I cant tell the players anymore without a scorecard. Yes, I see the "Edit 2" but still: a whiner who went to far or a parody? You cant tell with these guys.)Guest wrote:Fuck sake! That thread has got to be the most nauseating display of self pity I've ever seen. I think that pedophile is for real too.franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
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They all say they are non-practitioners!AndrewV69 wrote:Hmmm.Dick Strawkins wrote:Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Well if it is the same guy who was soliciting advise on the baboon board, he said then he is a non-practitioner, but he is scared of seeing a shrink because of what may happen afterwards. Assuming that all of this is true he does have a problem.
(this was when PeeZuss was having a hissy fit about comments in rot13 and so on in the comments).
Thinking about it a bit more I wonder how it could be serious - pedophiles are notorious for hiding their desires from others.
Would a real pedophile just open up on the Atheismplus messageboard?
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You get your bollocks out at the tailor's? Suit you sir!clod wrote:Because I have one testicle bigger than the other I have to put up with gentlemens outfitters laughing in the cutting room.
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No idea. I do not know much about them at all. I find the subject distasteful, and as I have kids my reactions are visceral.Dick Strawkins wrote:They all say they are non-practitioners!AndrewV69 wrote:Hmmm.Dick Strawkins wrote:Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Well if it is the same guy who was soliciting advise on the baboon board, he said then he is a non-practitioner, but he is scared of seeing a shrink because of what may happen afterwards. Assuming that all of this is true he does have a problem.
(this was when PeeZuss was having a hissy fit about comments in rot13 and so on in the comments).
Thinking about it a bit more I wonder how it could be serious - pedophiles are notorious for hiding their desires from others.
Would a real pedophile just open up on the Atheismplus messageboard?
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Can't imagine why that would be!Dick Strawkins wrote: [...] pedophiles are notorious for hiding their desires from others.
If they use Tor or something, and leave out identifying personal details, I believe it would be quite possible. Some of the remarks in that post struck me as being non-troll-like—of course, it could be the work of a clever troll.Dick Strawkins wrote:
Would a real pedophile just open up on the Atheismplus messageboard?
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I, too, am inclined to believe that the paedophile is real. First, a paedophile is not a child-molestor until he/she has molested a child. Please don't conflate the two.Dick Strawkins wrote:I know that Greta Christina has defended pedophelia in the past (at least forms of pedophelic pornography that don't involve actual child abuse - for example photoshopping pictures of children or animated child characters that are shown having sex with adults.
Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Having read some popular books, articles, etc. on neuroscience, I am not surprised if there really are people who, not by their own choice, are sexually attracted to children - they are just 'cursed' with such neurobiology. Most of the time, they know sex with children is wrong and their frontal lobes are doing a wondrous job of inhibiting them from acting on their impulse.
Cited in this brilliant essay* is a case of a brain tumour patient developing uncontrolled paedophilia. Unfortunately, the link to the original article on Newscientist no longer works.
Regardless of whether the paedophilia is in-born or not, let's not demonize the person so hastily before we are even sure that he/she has committed a crime. After all, we agree that people shouldn't be convicted for thought crime.
*Those who follow the link might notice the author of the article is Adam Lee of Daylight Atheism, one of the vocal supporters of FTBaboons and skepchicks. I found him a clear thinker and a superb writer whose writing was instrumental in my deconversion, so I was extremely disappointed and disillusioned when I found out that he has a massive blind spot when it comes to feminist doctrine.
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Perhaps molester is too strong a word without evidence of something further.Heintje wrote:I, too, am inclined to believe that the paedophile is real. First, a paedophile is not a child-molestor until he/she has molested a child. Please don't conflate the two.Dick Strawkins wrote:I know that Greta Christina has defended pedophelia in the past (at least forms of pedophelic pornography that don't involve actual child abuse - for example photoshopping pictures of children or animated child characters that are shown having sex with adults.
Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
At the same time you don't need to physically touch a child to have contributed to abuse - just look at all the people who have been found to have downloaded child porn.
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I agree, but in this case we don't have any evidence that he indulges in child porn either. If it is not too presumptuous for me to ask, let's not speak ill of this person any further. I think he already suffers enough - I imagine it would be kind of like being gay in a society where homosexuality is punishable by death.Dick Strawkins wrote:Perhaps molester is too strong a word without evidence of something further.
At the same time you don't need to physically touch a child to have contributed to abuse - just look at all the people who have been found to have downloaded child porn.
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They have a back-slapping thread to accompany that one.
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=801
It must suck being Jadehawk, too depressed to work but still able to afford a college education, internet connection, food, water, gas, electricity, rent. What a terrible society that allows for that to happen.
Also, the "pedophile" was an obvious troll.
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=801
It must suck being Jadehawk, too depressed to work but still able to afford a college education, internet connection, food, water, gas, electricity, rent. What a terrible society that allows for that to happen.
Also, the "pedophile" was an obvious troll.
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franc wrote:Fucking really. If any of them were animals, and you didn't put them to sleep and out of their misery, it would be animal cruelty.Dick Strawkins wrote:So gender traitor chill girls and 'misogynists', like Dawkins and Russell Blackford, are not welcome in Atheism plus, but pedophiles are fine :shock:franc wrote:Effects of not having privilege(Trigger Warning: Oppression)
Post by Catherine » Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:45 am
Bunch of lunatics all of them.Thought I would make a thread where people can share their experiences of not having privilege:
Because I am transgendered I have never had a relationship
Because I am transgendered I had to give up my teaching Job
Because I am transgendered I face transphobic abuse from strangers
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Two new pearls of wisdom on A+.
First a thread where they spend their time shilling for Islam, and defending one of the most misogynist concepts in existence (veiling):
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=225
And then a thread where they, wait for it, debate how to "overthrow Capitalism":
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=437
Wonder if anyone has told Surlyamy yet that she's a kulak?
First a thread where they spend their time shilling for Islam, and defending one of the most misogynist concepts in existence (veiling):
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=225
And then a thread where they, wait for it, debate how to "overthrow Capitalism":
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=437
Wonder if anyone has told Surlyamy yet that she's a kulak?
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A link I posted on the facebook group, will also post it here (P.S. Phil, ffs, accept my friend request will you? I need to spam you with cat pictures!)
http://www.theawl.com/2012/05/when-trig ... ts-meaning
http://www.theawl.com/2012/05/when-trig ... ts-meaning
This is a sign of how far afield "trigger warnings" have gone: it's insulting, infantilizing and comes from some part of the Internet that only exists in parts of California, I'm pretty sure.
Triggers are a pretty specific psychological phenomenon. They are not the same as being reminded of things one does not like. When the term becomes too general it stifles regular conversation because the phrase carries with it, in common usage, the idea that we should respect the severe psychological responses to otherwise ordinary exchanges, and should modify our behavior accordingly. In the case of a severe response, this seems justified. In lesser cases it seems like a word used to make people stop talking about something you don't want them to talk about.
I'm kinda concerned that the phrasing of "triggered," a relatively newly-recognized phenomenon, is jumping past its intended usage. "Triggered" is becoming the new "codependent," in that it's a word that's getting overused and used to mean something other than the original meaning, and therefore starts to mean nothing.
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Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
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Ah, Alyss. The autistic transexual with a history of mental illness.Git wrote:Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
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The A+ forum is one sad, strange, disturbing place.
Am I the only one who thinks the whole A+ thing is crashing and burning already?
Am I the only one who thinks the whole A+ thing is crashing and burning already?
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I think the whole autistic transexual thing is utterly irrelevant to this though.cunt wrote:Ah, Alyss. The autistic transexual with a history of mental illness.Git wrote:Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
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Maybe the trans part is.Git wrote:I think the whole autistic transexual thing is utterly irrelevant to this though.cunt wrote:Ah, Alyss. The autistic transexual with a history of mental illness.Git wrote:Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
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I'm opening a book on how long it will be before you see 9/11 Truthery and Holocaust Denial on there.Tigzy wrote:The A+ forum is one sad, strange, disturbing place.
Am I the only one who thinks the whole A+ thing is crashing and burning already?
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It is. Someone's sexual identity is irrelevant to the matter, at, err, hand.cunt wrote:Maybe the trans part is.Git wrote:I think the whole autistic transexual thing is utterly irrelevant to this though.cunt wrote:Ah, Alyss. The autistic transexual with a history of mental illness.Git wrote:Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
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The interesting thing is that if one were really that opposed to A+, you'd have to do pretty much shit all to counter them. It's the Aplussers' own who have done the most damage so far: Carrier, 'widdle pwincess' Jen and her overbearing father, and that utterly, utterly bizarre forum. One really only has to sit back and gawk, aghast, as the whole grisly thing destroys itself.Git wrote:I'm opening a book on how long it will be before you see 9/11 Truthery and Holocaust Denial on there.Tigzy wrote:The A+ forum is one sad, strange, disturbing place.
Am I the only one who thinks the whole A+ thing is crashing and burning already?
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I gave up on reading anything associated with their bizarre cult-like movement a long time ago. I cant handle anymore of their mind-numbing nonsense...just reading that thread gave me a headache.Git wrote:Why am I still reading A+. The ludicrous Alyss is now defending Chairman fucking Mao and insisting that claims that tens of millions killed by him are "US Propaganda". All from the safety of Massachusetts.
Fuck me, do any of these toilet revolutionaries realise that in any sort of totalitarian regime they'd be the first to be dragged to an execution post, screaming in terror?
Thankfully, I think we can be quite sure that the vast majority of secularists that don't spend every waking moment on their computers whining on forums and comment threads about how oppressed they are wont buy into their nonsense. Its just drama of the worst kind. :violin:
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sacha wrote:
I was with a very close friend of mine last night (Englishman). I attempted to get him up to date with PZ, Watson, and the baboons (He's been in Europe for over a month and a half, and too busy to do more than what was necessary online). I told him that at this point it has become bizarre that Steven Novella is continuing to defend her and keep her on the SGU when it seems that the only others defending her are baboons and their sycophants, and those in the sceptic community who are opposed to her have become quite numerous and vocal, especially since A+theism.
I mentioned the A Voice For Men podcast in which they discuss Watson, told him a bit about Girl Writes What and in passing, I said something to the effect of "of course, I'm a MRA" and he replied "A MRA? I thought you were simply for equality"
I assumed that considering myself a MRA was common knowledge to him, as we have spoken about my support for men, and anger at their treatment in many different facets of US* society, at length, he has seen my reaction whenever there is blatant misandry in adverts and the media, and he has been with me numerous times when I have made it extremely clear that I refuse to keep quiet when someone perpetuates the belief that it is perfectly fine to refer to men in ways that would never be tolerated if it were men referring to women the exact same way. He has seen me speak up when women find humour at the expense of men, but would be outraged at the “misogynistic†men who would dare to laugh at a woman's expense, He has heard me ask men why they tolerate this behaviour, and he has heard the stories of why I will not go out with a group of women under any circumstances, as I've never been with a group of women when the topic of discussion did not very quickly turn into a man-bashing party.
Over the years, he has also heard me tell the tales** of either overhearing, being directly told, or having first-hand knowledge of what many women are willing to do to men who simply did not want to continue a relationship with them, or never wanted to start one after having sex with them. A level of vindictiveness only the truly psychotic men even come close to.
So I was surprised that he did not consider me an MRA, and *I realised that the majority of my experiences with misandry were all in the US, and that the vast majority of women baboons are from the US, and although I have always felt more comfortable with men, and have always had a distrust of most women (with very good reason, even if one only looks at how they treat other women) and often found I had very little in common with them, I don’t remember the behaviour by the majority being anywhere close to what it is in the US, and there is a very distinct difference in the women who have moved to the US from other countries.
My response to him was that in Merkinland, I feel the need to counteract what society deems appropriate when it comes to men, by being vocal in my support that men (and boys) have become the oppressed, and that they are the ones in need of vocal advocates, especially those who are women, and although my world view is one of advocating gender equality, in the US, the men need me more.
It’s possible that the disconnect in the perception of why one would consider themselves an MRA on this thread, has everything to do with what part of the world is most familiar to them.
**I've heard everything from cutting up or burning all of his clothing, to extreme stalking and harassment, to reporting false accusations of rape, and not just once or twice. The amount of times I have heard women advise their friends who are hurt by the fact that their boyfriend chose to end the relationship with them to "ruin his life" is far more than I can count. These examples are not even including the women who go to court to take every last cent of their husband's money in a divorce, even when he was very good to her the entire marriage, and was as kind as possible when explaining he wanted to live without her, or those women who go to court and tell lies in order to stop him from seeing his children, when they know, almost always, courts in the US rule in their favour.
In the US, women who become vindictive towards men who want out of a relationship are not the minority, and I could write a tome about most women and their reaction after casual sex, even when they knew ahead of time, that is all it will ever be.
"hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" is not an exaggeration.
Just to be clear, of course I have known women who would never even consider behaving that way. I recently spent the evening with a casual friend, and her friend, and had a great time, the times men were mentioned, it was always in a positive light, (of course one of them was raised by parents who are not Merkin, and the other is Brazilian.)
Hm. I wonder if it really is the culture here. If it is, it still seem like the ultimate deciding factor is individual personalities. Some will embrace it, and others will reject it.
I dated a woman from Barbados once, and she had an awesome attitude. She wasn't the epitome of femininity either, though. (Had her hair cut shorter than mine, and her idea of fun was climbing trees and wrestling. Seeing bruises on her was common.) On the other end, one of the students at my school, a girl from Morocco majoring in fashion design, who models on the side, (maybe that says something) said that once she dates a man that makes a certain amount of money, she is incapable of dating anyone that makes less. Repulsive, is the only word I can think of for that. She's pretty attractive, but her air smells. I'd never even consider dating someone like that, and not just because I'm a broke art student. :lol:
That post on how misogynists are made is interesting. I stopped and wondered, but I still resist the label. By default, I mistrust everyone equally initially. (Okay, maybe not. Authority figures earn more distrust from me.) Any greater level of distrust, from a first impression, will be related to my brief assessment of whatever they're wearing on their sleeve that day. Sure, there are certain types of women that I automatically decide are not worthy of my trust, but there are also certain types of men...
Anyhow, thanks for sharing.
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Oh, that privilege thread is just begging for a Poe. Who's up for it? Mind you after reading the one that went:
"Because I am gifted....." for about half a page and then whined on about having asthma as if it were the Black Death I'm not sure we could come up with a Poe that was as ridiculous as the real thing.
Still, I am tempted. Surely we have someone who could post there.
"Because I am ginger I have to wear a tea cosy...."
"Because I am gifted....." for about half a page and then whined on about having asthma as if it were the Black Death I'm not sure we could come up with a Poe that was as ridiculous as the real thing.
Still, I am tempted. Surely we have someone who could post there.
"Because I am ginger I have to wear a tea cosy...."
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I have asthma. I have been hospitalised in the past because of it. I take montelukast daily, and Ventolin as appopriate, and stay out of smoky atmospheres.bhoytony wrote:Oh, that privilege thread is just begging for a Poe. Who's up for it? Mind you after reading the one that went:
"Because I am gifted....." for about half a page and then whined on about having asthma as if it were the Black Death I'm not sure we could come up with a Poe that was as ridiculous as the real thing.
Still, I am tempted. Surely we have someone who could post there.
"Because I am ginger I have to wear a tea cosy...."
Help, help, I'm being oppressed.
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So it is really is a place for washed out 'Occupy' protesters and Kony 2012 promo package purchasers.Git wrote:Two new pearls of wisdom on A+.
First a thread where they spend their time shilling for Islam, and defending one of the most misogynist concepts in existence (veiling):
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=225
And then a thread where they, wait for it, debate how to "overthrow Capitalism":
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=437
Wonder if anyone has told Surlyamy yet that she's a kulak?
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Yes, yes, but are you ginger?Git wrote:I have asthma. I have been hospitalised in the past because of it. I take montelukast daily, and Ventolin as appopriate, and stay out of smoky atmospheres.bhoytony wrote:Oh, that privilege thread is just begging for a Poe. Who's up for it? Mind you after reading the one that went:
"Because I am gifted....." for about half a page and then whined on about having asthma as if it were the Black Death I'm not sure we could come up with a Poe that was as ridiculous as the real thing.
Still, I am tempted. Surely we have someone who could post there.
"Because I am ginger I have to wear a tea cosy...."
Help, help, I'm being oppressed.
Dear Muslima....
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Oh well, I suppose it should not come as a surprise, but Jean Kazez has now publically stated her willingness to wear the Gown of Truthiness so she won't have to deal with those nasty mean and vile people who have the affrontery, the affontery I say, to disgaree with her.
Like a puff of smoke, yet one more supposed intellectual drinks the flavour-aid and flushes themselves down the drain into room 101.
link: http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/09/misogy ... -life.html
Like a puff of smoke, yet one more supposed intellectual drinks the flavour-aid and flushes themselves down the drain into room 101.
link: http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/09/misogy ... -life.html
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Just had a look at Jen McWrong's dad's blog. I particularly loved this sneaky little comment. Classic. Well played that man.
John D.
You know, Mike, this message would probably cut a little deeper, and reach further, if you made and uploaded a video. A lot of people nowadays are too lazy to bother reading, and I think your message is both poignant and important. People on the internet need to be taught some respect!
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Daddy Slaughter Part Deux? One can only hope.bhoytony wrote:Just had a look at Jen McWrong's dad's blog. I particularly loved this sneaky little comment. Classic. Well played that man.
John D.
You know, Mike, this message would probably cut a little deeper, and reach further, if you made and uploaded a video. A lot of people nowadays are too lazy to bother reading, and I think your message is both poignant and important. People on the internet need to be taught some respect!
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This one slipped passed moderation. Dear Musima and all of that....John Greg wrote: link: http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/09/misogy ... -life.html
"Criag Urias said...
There is a wide range of variability in Internet addiction or at least Internet obsessiveness. Out of millions, we expect some number to exhibit strong obsessiveness and strong opinions. In the extreme case we find nutjobs. Since these people make a disproportionate amount of noise, the tail end of the distribution curve becomes exaggerated in our minds, leading to misperceptions.
Just as we are evolved to perceive human-length time intervals (and not deep time) and human-magnitude velocities (and not near-lightspeed velocities), we misperceive the attitude of a group of millions of people when we use our online experience as evidence. Also see the 1% rule.
In addition, being personally attacked also skews our perception, causing us to give undue weight to a handful of individuals. Moreover, personal attacks create a vicious cycle leading to an even greater exaggeration of the distribution tail segment. We don't see tit-for-tat exchanges of kindness that drag out for months or years, or whole websites devoted solely to raining compliments upon a group of bloggers.
We should therefore be skeptical of an individual's assessment of a particular group's social problems formed from the individual's perceptions gathered online.
Jean, if you think about the factors which culminated in your current belief that there is a "misogyny war", doesn't it boil down to a small number of individuals? Your attitude seems to have shifted after you were unjustly attacked. While the sense of injustice is a very real and palpable thing, it is helpful to find some perspective. Think about the millions of people in the secular population worldwide. In Europe there are whole countries of atheists. So you ran into a few nutjobs. In the long view, so what?
Before elevatorgate we did not hear about atheism particularly having a misogyny problem. Shouldn't we have noticed it before? Isn't it more likely that we are looking at an online phenomenon? Internet discussions tend toward conflict due to missing cues from body language, pressure to defend oneself in front of thousands or (potentially) millions, social stroking from commenters that give license to otherwise antisocial behavior, the (sometimes monetary) incentive to increase traffic by discussing contentious issues, and of course the perils that accompany anonymity. Personal drama does not generally require deep contemplation or research, making it perfectly suited for high-volume blogging.
And remember the Internet includes literal and figurative children who love the attention that Internet flaming gives them. For them, nothing is more exciting than seeing their words quoted and accompanied by outrage. They "win" every time that happens, and lately they have found a wellspring of seemingly unlimited wins."
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And look what happened to him.Mr Danksworth wrote:Daddy Slaughter Part Deux? One can only hope.bhoytony wrote:Just had a look at Jen McWrong's dad's blog. I particularly loved this sneaky little comment. Classic. Well played that man.
John D.
You know, Mike, this message would probably cut a little deeper, and reach further, if you made and uploaded a video. A lot of people nowadays are too lazy to bother reading, and I think your message is both poignant and important. People on the internet need to be taught some respect!
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I would like to make a point to people reading who voice a less than A+ opinion of The Slyme Pit+. Do you notice gangs of people piling on others with a differing point of view? Have you seen people being banned for simply disagreeing? Has anyone resorted to screaming out "TROLL!" just because they can not support a point? At any time has anyone demanded that certain beliefs must be held in order to interact with the others in the forum? Does there seem to be a habit of calling people stupid because they simply have a different opinion?
Is it a "safe" place to say whatever you wish surrounded by nodding heads? No, it is not and it shouldn't be. A place that does not allow a free exchange of ideas AND peer review does not encourage positive/fair change. A forum of only like-minded people is good for growing egos but little else.
And for the record there has been no attempt by any of the slyme pit members to control my mind or actions as of yet ....even if this did/does occur it will still be none of your business so F off. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings you may have had, have a nice day.
Shameless opinion plug http://reapstruth.blogspot.com/2012/09/ ... -isnt.html
Also Maria Maltseva was a guest on the A-news podcast last night in case you want to keep an eye out, it should be up today
Is it a "safe" place to say whatever you wish surrounded by nodding heads? No, it is not and it shouldn't be. A place that does not allow a free exchange of ideas AND peer review does not encourage positive/fair change. A forum of only like-minded people is good for growing egos but little else.
And for the record there has been no attempt by any of the slyme pit members to control my mind or actions as of yet ....even if this did/does occur it will still be none of your business so F off. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings you may have had, have a nice day.
Shameless opinion plug http://reapstruth.blogspot.com/2012/09/ ... -isnt.html
Also Maria Maltseva was a guest on the A-news podcast last night in case you want to keep an eye out, it should be up today
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0-2 is when it SHOULD be done. That is when they build confidence. When they get a few years older and they are still being infantilised is the problem.Michael K Gray wrote:Again, mea culpa in the early years with her (0~2).DownThunder wrote:That generous over inflation of ones abilities and accomplishments seems to have carried over into adult life.
haha! when looking to see if I spelled infantilised correctly, Google US gave me this:
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Harumph. So I guess recurrent minor depressive disorder then? Bad enough - and can fuck up your life as well, but a major depressive episode would kinda keep one from twittering, usually.Darren wrote:source
And nope, to the best of my knowledge, there's no such fucking thing as chronic depression. At least not as a medical term. (Or is the DSM that shite in cotrast to the ICD?) Fuck, any depressive I've met knows that, cause you learn that shit in psychiatric care. And at least in my area, the psychiatrists and clinical psychologists make sure to only use the proper medical terms, in order to help one deal with the bullshit one usually gets with lay-idiots, who range from co-workers to bosses, to...
Oh well, reminds me, I finally gotta give a call to the inmate who helped me back then, without her, I wouldn't have gotten back on my feet.
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OK, who was it? Come on own up.
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The "paedophile" at A+theism is a troll, (there is no way anyone would think that forum is a "safe space" for someone who suffers from paedophilia) however, I completely agree with Heintje. As long as they do not act on the impulses, I sympathise with them.Heintje wrote:I, too, am inclined to believe that the paedophile is real. First, a paedophile is not a child-molestor until he/she has molested a child. Please don't conflate the two.Dick Strawkins wrote:I know that Greta Christina has defended pedophelia in the past (at least forms of pedophelic pornography that don't involve actual child abuse - for example photoshopping pictures of children or animated child characters that are shown having sex with adults.
Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Having read some popular books, articles, etc. on neuroscience, I am not surprised if there really are people who, not by their own choice, are sexually attracted to children - they are just 'cursed' with such neurobiology. Most of the time, they know sex with children is wrong and their frontal lobes are doing a wondrous job of inhibiting them from acting on their impulse.
Cited in this brilliant essay* is a case of a brain tumour patient developing uncontrolled paedophilia. Unfortunately, the link to the original article on Newscientist no longer works.
Regardless of whether the paedophilia is in-born or not, let's not demonize the person so hastily before we are even sure that he/she has committed a crime. After all, we agree that people shouldn't be convicted for thought crime.
Even Steven Novella has stated that he has sympathy for those afflicted with the disorder.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7116506.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
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This is very good. I wish I had written it.Mr Danksworth wrote:This one slipped passed moderation. Dear Musima and all of that....John Greg wrote: link: http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/09/misogy ... -life.html
"Criag Urias said...
There is a wide range of variability in Internet addiction or at least Internet obsessiveness. Out of millions, we expect some number to exhibit strong obsessiveness and strong opinions. In the extreme case we find nutjobs. Since these people make a disproportionate amount of noise, the tail end of the distribution curve becomes exaggerated in our minds, leading to misperceptions.
Just as we are evolved to perceive human-length time intervals (and not deep time) and human-magnitude velocities (and not near-lightspeed velocities), we misperceive the attitude of a group of millions of people when we use our online experience as evidence. Also see the 1% rule.
In addition, being personally attacked also skews our perception, causing us to give undue weight to a handful of individuals. Moreover, personal attacks create a vicious cycle leading to an even greater exaggeration of the distribution tail segment. We don't see tit-for-tat exchanges of kindness that drag out for months or years, or whole websites devoted solely to raining compliments upon a group of bloggers.
We should therefore be skeptical of an individual's assessment of a particular group's social problems formed from the individual's perceptions gathered online.
Jean, if you think about the factors which culminated in your current belief that there is a "misogyny war", doesn't it boil down to a small number of individuals? Your attitude seems to have shifted after you were unjustly attacked. While the sense of injustice is a very real and palpable thing, it is helpful to find some perspective. Think about the millions of people in the secular population worldwide. In Europe there are whole countries of atheists. So you ran into a few nutjobs. In the long view, so what?
Before elevatorgate we did not hear about atheism particularly having a misogyny problem. Shouldn't we have noticed it before? Isn't it more likely that we are looking at an online phenomenon? Internet discussions tend toward conflict due to missing cues from body language, pressure to defend oneself in front of thousands or (potentially) millions, social stroking from commenters that give license to otherwise antisocial behavior, the (sometimes monetary) incentive to increase traffic by discussing contentious issues, and of course the perils that accompany anonymity. Personal drama does not generally require deep contemplation or research, making it perfectly suited for high-volume blogging.
And remember the Internet includes literal and figurative children who love the attention that Internet flaming gives them. For them, nothing is more exciting than seeing their words quoted and accompanied by outrage. They "win" every time that happens, and lately they have found a wellspring of seemingly unlimited wins."
Reap: I'm not really into podcast, but if Blu was a guest, I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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Bipolar disorder, maybe?lost control wrote:Harumph. So I guess recurrent minor depressive disorder then? Bad enough - and can fuck up your life as well, but a major depressive episode would kinda keep one from twittering, usually.Darren wrote:source
And nope, to the best of my knowledge, there's no such fucking thing as chronic depression. At least not as a medical term. (Or is the DSM that shite in cotrast to the ICD?) Fuck, any depressive I've met knows that, cause you learn that shit in psychiatric care. And at least in my area, the psychiatrists and clinical psychologists make sure to only use the proper medical terms, in order to help one deal with the bullshit one usually gets with lay-idiots, who range from co-workers to bosses, to...
Oh well, reminds me, I finally gotta give a call to the inmate who helped me back then, without her, I wouldn't have gotten back on my feet.
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Where the fuck IS John D? He's an old friend. Franc and I know him well. He registered here, but has not posted. I suspect this thread may be too much of a commitment for many, as it can take hours to catch up and respond, even if one is here daily.bhoytony wrote:Just had a look at Jen McWrong's dad's blog. I particularly loved this sneaky little comment. Classic. Well played that man.
John D.
You know, Mike, this message would probably cut a little deeper, and reach further, if you made and uploaded a video. A lot of people nowadays are too lazy to bother reading, and I think your message is both poignant and important. People on the internet need to be taught some respect!
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Couldn't find a Bipolar, Will this do?Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Bipolar disorder, maybe?
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https://twitter.com/AmetSpeaks/status/2 ... 7847356417bhoytony wrote:And look what happened to him.Mr Danksworth wrote:Daddy Slaughter Part Deux? One can only hope.bhoytony wrote:Just had a look at Jen McWrong's dad's blog. I particularly loved this sneaky little comment. Classic. Well played that man.
John D.
You know, Mike, this message would probably cut a little deeper, and reach further, if you made and uploaded a video. A lot of people nowadays are too lazy to bother reading, and I think your message is both poignant and important. People on the internet need to be taught some respect!
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^
This shit is getting meta.
This shit is getting meta.
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Forgot the "L" at the end of "meta", didn't ya?Mr Danksworth wrote:^
This shit is getting meta.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=metaPhil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Forgot the "L" at the end of "meta", didn't ya?Mr Danksworth wrote:^
This shit is getting meta.
"Meta- A term, especially in art, used to characterize something that is characteristically self-referential. "
Metal works also ;)
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Heintje wrote:I, too, am inclined to believe that the paedophile is real. First, a paedophile is not a child-molestor until he/she has molested a child. Please don't conflate the two.Dick Strawkins wrote:I know that Greta Christina has defended pedophelia in the past (at least forms of pedophelic pornography that don't involve actual child abuse - for example photoshopping pictures of children or animated child characters that are shown having sex with adults.
Perhaps this is their new policy:
Atheismplus - a safe place for child molesters! :shock:
Having read some popular books, articles, etc. on neuroscience, I am not surprised if there really are people who, not by their own choice, are sexually attracted to children - they are just 'cursed' with such neurobiology. Most of the time, they know sex with children is wrong and their frontal lobes are doing a wondrous job of inhibiting them from acting on their impulse.
Cited in this brilliant essay* is a case of a brain tumour patient developing uncontrolled paedophilia. Unfortunately, the link to the original article on Newscientist no longer works.
Regardless of whether the paedophilia is in-born or not, let's not demonize the person so hastily before we are even sure that he/she has committed a crime. After all, we agree that people shouldn't be convicted for thought crime.
*Those who follow the link might notice the author of the article is Adam Lee of Daylight Atheism, one of the vocal supporters of FTBaboons and skepchicks. I found him a clear thinker and a superb writer whose writing was instrumental in my deconversion, so I was extremely disappointed and disillusioned when I found out that he has a massive blind spot when it comes to feminist doctrine.
I agree with you, you kaas kop. See http://gawker.com/5941037/born-this-way ... h-children