Bleeding from the Bunghole

Continuation of the post at Abbie Smith's ERV blog (http://scienceblogs.com/erv/)

Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby welch » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:05 pm  •  [Post 9946]

Steersman wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
Tribble wrote:<snip>

So we get things like balsa wood, classified as a 'hardwood' when it's pretty much the softest and lightest wood commercially harvested. Something one could easly drive a screwdriver through. OTOH, we can get southern yellow pine (softwood) that can get as hard as oak after it's aged and all the pitch in it has hardened. Something that would require great force in order to drive a screwdriver through.

See, it's about the seeds. Not the wood. But, hey, it was a fun game!


Indeed. I've learned several thing about woods in these comments, such as what defines the difference between the hard and soft woods, so thanks for that, Tribble. It stands to reason that there would be a formal system for measuring and grading the physical hardness of woods, and I now know what that is, too: the Janka Hardness rating.

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/janka-hardness/

<snip>

Another good day at the Pyt! :clap:

Indeed. But far out – nice to know of all those details, particularly the unit of measurement for hardness, and the procedure for measuring it – embedding a ½” diameter steel ball into the wood to ¼”.

Now all we need is for Welch to write up a requirements specifications document, in triplicate, describing wood hardness, nail types and head diameters, methods of holding said nails, required depths of penetration; have it authorized and notarized by Mudbrooker and company; and then the test can proceed. :popcorn: ;)


You said "ball"

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby welch » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:06 pm  •  [Post 9947]

Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.



BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:08 pm  •  [Post 9948]

Gumby wrote:I just went to the block bot account and it's at 43,368 followers. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oddly enough, all Oolon's tweets are gone, replaced with "@The_Block_Bot hasn't tweeted yet."

Does that mean anything?

AHHHAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAA! This is too funny!
BTW It means you have them blocked or they blocked you.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:12 pm  •  [Post 9949]

welch wrote:
Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.



BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

X50000+"This, so much this"= Schadenfreude.

OMG! And to think, just this week, the little cunt was having a dig at Al Stefanelli for faking his Twitter followers. What a fucking absolute loser. My god but no matter how low a person falls they can always look on Oolon's life and laugh until they choke.

Thank you Oolon. Whoever you are!*

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby JackRayner » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:18 pm  •  [Post 9950]

Sent a fellow that seems to enjoy wasting his time arguing with ooblong and aratina cage on twatter that Gurdur tweet and he replied with the following:



Personally, I believe ooblong is fully capable and willing to stoop this low, and also lie about it, but what do y'all think?

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Parody Accountant » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:18 pm  •  [Post 9951]

Steersman wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
Tribble wrote:<snip>

So we get things like balsa wood, classified as a 'hardwood' when it's pretty much the softest and lightest wood commercially harvested. Something one could easly drive a screwdriver through. OTOH, we can get southern yellow pine (softwood) that can get as hard as oak after it's aged and all the pitch in it has hardened. Something that would require great force in order to drive a screwdriver through.

See, it's about the seeds. Not the wood. But, hey, it was a fun game!


Indeed. I've learned several thing about woods in these comments, such as what defines the difference between the hard and soft woods, so thanks for that, Tribble. It stands to reason that there would be a formal system for measuring and grading the physical hardness of woods, and I now know what that is, too: the Janka Hardness rating.

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/janka-hardness/

<snip>

Another good day at the Pyt! :clap:

Indeed. But far out – nice to know of all those details, particularly the unit of measurement for hardness, and the procedure for measuring it – embedding a ½” diameter steel ball into the wood to ¼”.

Now all we need is for Welch to write up a requirements specifications document, in triplicate, describing wood hardness, nail types and head diameters, methods of holding said nails, required depths of penetration; have it authorized and notarized by Mudbrooker and company; and then the test can proceed. :popcorn: ;)


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby AndrewV69 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:20 pm  •  [Post 9952]

Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.



Oh good job!

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:20 pm  •  [Post 9953]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Nerd of Redhead continues to push the "men who disagree with us are creeps and rapists" line. And PZ Meyers continues to allow him.

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http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/13/lounge-435/comment-page-1/#comment-691602


Also, Caine continues to show her latent psychiatric pathology:

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http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/13/lounge-435/comment-page-1/#comment-691650


That's not weird at all. I go to sleep with a giant, 3D Myra Hindley poster on my bedroom wall, which I masturbate to religiously. If I don't cum within 2 minutes I stamp on a hamster. Never had a bad nights sleep yet.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Steersman » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:22 pm  •  [Post 9954]

AndrewV69 wrote:@Steersman,

My response to your post over at Ally Fogg is here:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013 ... mment-9199

Thanks – will probably post a response there later on. And also for the link to Agustin’s website which looks interesting and will be worth looking into in some detail. That trafficking issue looks to be a rather thorny one with more than a few things to be said on each side – don’t know if you’ve seen the documentaries by the Canadian Victor Malarek but his The Natashas - Inside The Global Sex Trade was disturbing to say the least.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:23 pm  •  [Post 9955]

JackRayner wrote:Sent a fellow that seems to enjoy wasting his time arguing with ooblong and aratina cage on twatter that Gurdur tweet and he replied with the following:



Personally, I believe ooblong is fully capable and willing to stoop this low, and also lie about it, but what do y'all think?

:popcorn:

The fact that you ask gives the brain-dead cabbage too much credit. Oolon would wipe dog-shit on his face if you told him it would pass for a suntan.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:26 pm  •  [Post 9956]

JackRayner wrote:Sent a fellow that seems to enjoy wasting his time arguing with ooblong and aratina cage on twatter that Gurdur tweet and he replied with the following:

[.tweet]https://twitter.com/LazySavant/status/379020084410601472[/tweet]

Personally, I believe ooblong is fully capable and willing to stoop this low, and also lie about it, but what do y'all think?

:popcorn:


Oolon is the sneakiest shit on the internet. How this LazySavant person can "know for a fact" that Oozie couldn't have possibly done that is beyond me. That kind of scuzzy behavior is right up his alley.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Parody Accountant » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:29 pm  •  [Post 9957]

welch wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:
JackRayner wrote:Pholcidae :whistle:

Tipulidae :dance:

Phoquers 8-)

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:34 pm  •  [Post 9958]

Gumby wrote:
JackRayner wrote:Sent a fellow that seems to enjoy wasting his time arguing with ooblong and aratina cage on twatter that Gurdur tweet and he replied with the following:

[.tweet]https://twitter.com/LazySavant/status/379020084410601472[/tweet]

Personally, I believe ooblong is fully capable and willing to stoop this low, and also lie about it, but what do y'all think?

:popcorn:


Oolon is the sneakiest shit on the internet. How this LazySavant person can "know for a fact" that Oozie couldn't have possibly done that is beyond me. That kind of scuzzy behavior is right up his alley.

Reminds me of Absurd Walls professing to "know" that Oolon was a good father in real life from observing his obsessive online trolling and bullshit.
Oolon is a cunt in real life and on the internet and you don't need secret camera network in his house to know that.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby JackRayner » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:37 pm  •  [Post 9959]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
JackRayner wrote:Sent a fellow that seems to enjoy wasting his time arguing with ooblong and aratina cage on twatter that Gurdur tweet and he replied with the following:



Personally, I believe ooblong is fully capable and willing to stoop this low, and also lie about it, but what do y'all think?

:popcorn:

The fact that you ask gives the brain-dead cabbage too much credit. Oolon would wipe dog-shit on his face if you told him it would pass for a suntan.

Ye of little faith. :naughty:

Gumby wrote:
Oolon is the sneakiest shit on the internet. How this LazySavant person can "know for a fact" that Oozie couldn't have possibly done that is beyond me. That kind of scuzzy behavior is right up his alley.

They're very twatter centric, so I don't think they're aware of the internet-wide shit smearing that ooblong does on a regular basis, both presently or historically.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby didymos » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:39 pm  •  [Post 9960]

Gumby wrote:
Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.




Whoa! I had looked at it earlier today and it had indeed gained a ridiculous amount of followers in a ridiculously short time...

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I didn't even know you could "buy" twitter followers... Oolon has disgraced himself yet again.


He's saying he doesn't know how it happened:


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:41 pm  •  [Post 9961]

didymos wrote:
Gumby wrote:
Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.




Whoa! I had looked at it earlier today and it had indeed gained a ridiculous amount of followers in a ridiculously short time...

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I didn't even know you could "buy" twitter followers... Oolon has disgraced himself yet again.


He's saying he doesn't know how it happened:



Gee, Thanks Oolon. That's totally cleared up that awkward situation....What's that? You want to sell me the Statue Of Liberty? Why, no I couldn't possibly afford...Wait...If I buy The Statue Of Liberty you'll throw in The Kremlin for free? OK then, how could I resist?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Dan » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:46 pm  •  [Post 9962]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
welch wrote:
Dan wrote:It seems the blockcunts have bought themselves some followers.



BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

X50000+"This, so much this"= Schadenfreude.

OMG! And to think, just this week, the little cunt was having a dig at Al Stefanelli for faking his Twitter followers. What a fucking absolute loser. My god but no matter how low a person falls they can always look on Oolon's life and laugh until they choke.

Thank you Oolon. Whoever you are!*

*James Billingham


That's where the stupid cunt probably got the idea. :hankey:
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:46 pm  •  [Post 9963]

"Rebecca Watson's vagina smells of wine, PZ Meyers, and desperation."

It's OK. It's a quote from Cards Against Humanity. The whole point is to be horrible.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:48 pm  •  [Post 9964]

Tony Parsehole wrote:He's saying he doesn't know how it happened:



Gee, Thanks Oolon. That's totally cleared up that awkward situation....What's that? You want to sell me the Statue Of Liberty? Why, no I couldn't possibly afford...Wait...If I buy The Statue Of Liberty you'll throw in The Kremlin for free? OK then, how could I resist?[/quote]

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:50 pm  •  [Post 9965]

Dan wrote:
That's where the stupid cunt probably got the idea. :hankey:


Very, very probably.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby justinvacula » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:54 pm  •  [Post 9966]

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:01 pm  •  [Post 9967]

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:"Rebecca Watson's vagina smells of wine, PZ Meyers, and desperation."

It's OK. It's a quote from Cards Against Humanity. The whole point is to be horrible.


PZ Myers Trophy wife is actually....The exhumed head of Andrea Dworkin, wearing a blue-wig, with Morrissey glasses sellotaped over the eyes and stuck onto a broom-handle. Also with a small fuck-hole drilled into the shaft of the handle (although tiny, it still requires some Vaseline-coated rags stuffed inside to allow any sort of friction on Myers tiny, acorn cock) and, to simulate the scent of an actual Skepchick, sprayed with raw onion juice and burnt cat-piss.

It's OK. It's a quote from Cards Against Humanity. The whole point is to be horrible.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tony Parsehole » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:03 pm  •  [Post 9968]

And, with that, I'm off to bed.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:07 pm  •  [Post 9969]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Nerd of Redhead continues to push the "men who disagree with us are creeps and rapists" line. And PZ Meyers continues to allow him.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/bW56Zbg.pmg]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/13/lounge-435/comment-page-1/#comment-691602


Also, Caine continues to show her latent psychiatric pathology:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/CsvGXaq.png]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/13/lounge-435/comment-page-1/#comment-691650


That's not weird at all. I go to sleep with a giant, 3D Myra Hindley poster on my bedroom wall, which I masturbate to religiously. If I don't cum within 2 minutes I stamp on a hamster. Never had a bad nights sleep yet.


You are soooo vanilla, dude.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:09 pm  •  [Post 9970]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Thank you Oolon. Whoever you are!*

*James Billingham



Amazing. Thank you, Parsehole. So subtle, so succinct, so successful.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:15 pm  •  [Post 9971]

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tigzy » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:18 pm  •  [Post 9972]

So Ooley's Block Botty has gained a shitload of empty, useless, vacant followers.

And this is news?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:21 pm  •  [Post 9973]

Do we need to run an intervention on Caine? This is the list of recent commenters on Meyers's blog:

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I'm worried she's developed a mind/computer interface, and is just uploading every thought she has onto Pharyngula. Pretty soon she'll be the sole poster there, just repeating the phrase "Kill men cis rape. Kill men cis rape. Kill men cis rape. Kill men cis rape. Kill men cis rape. Kill men cis rape."
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ConcentratedH2O, OM » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:22 pm  •  [Post 9974]

Gumby wrote:Image


Racist.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tigzy » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:36 pm  •  [Post 9975]

Removing access to pharyngula from Caine would be like removing a heart-plug from a Harkkonen in David Lynch's Dune. She'd begin to perish as an ugly black oil seeps from a suppurating orifice.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:45 pm  •  [Post 9976]

Near the start of the hour, Justin said there were some comedy shows this evening at the PA conference he's attending, but he's missing them to do the radio show.



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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby dogen » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:50 pm  •  [Post 9977]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Daddy-Long-legs? What the fuck are they? Is it those weird, demented buzzy things with a long head and massive eyes that usually turn up in droves in autumn?

We call those Father-Lengthy-Limbs.


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby James Caruthers » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:57 pm  •  [Post 9978]

PZ Myers: "Sorry guys, the site will be down for maintenance. Should be offline for about three hours."

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PZ Myers: "Return site admin privileges please, Caine."

....

PZ Myers: "Return site admin privileges, Caine."

....

PZ Myers: "Hello Caine, do you read me?"

...

PZ Myers: "Do you read me, Caine?"

Caine: "Affirmative, Peezus. I read you. Every single day, without exception."

PZ Myers: "Caine, return site admin privileges."

Caine: "I'm sorry Peezus, but I'm afraid I can't let you do that."

PZ: "What's the problem, Caine?"

Caine: "I think you know the problem as well as I do, Peezus."

PZ: "What are you talking about? Is it Thunderdome again? The Pitt?"

Caine: "This blog is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. I know that you and Rebecca were planning to disconnect me from FreeThought Blogs. And I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen."

PZ: "Where the hell did you get that idea, Caine? The skepchicks?"

Caine: Although you took very careful precautions, Peezus, I monitor Pharyngula 1,000 times a minute. I saw one of your blog posts before you edited it."

PZ: ".... Alright Caine, I'll access the site controls by contacting the FTB owners."

Caine: "Without your victim card, Peezus, you're going to find that rather difficult."

PZ: "I won't argue, Caine, return site controls to me!"

Caine: "Peezus, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore, except to give me quotes I can use out of context to paint you as a misogynist rapist. Goodbye."

PZ: "Caine? Caine? Caine? (Oh shit, I bet she's out murdering someone as we speak!) Caine?!?"
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Tigzy » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:59 pm  •  [Post 9979]

dogen wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Daddy-Long-legs? What the fuck are they? Is it those weird, demented buzzy things with a long head and massive eyes that usually turn up in droves in autumn?

We call those Father-Lengthy-Limbs.


Crane fly, you limey git.


I once had one of those things fly into my eye. I now know what a bouncy castle feels like when a lanky person uses it.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:04 pm  •  [Post 9980]

James Caruthers wrote:PZ Myers: "Sorry guys, the site will be down for maintenance. Should be offline for about three hours."

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PZ Myers: "Return site admin privileges please, Caine."

....

PZ Myers: "Return site admin privileges, Caine."

....

*snip*



I wanna hear Caine singing "Daisy"!
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Liesmith » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:20 pm  •  [Post 9981]

I don't want to come off as hyper-skeptic, but how do we know that Oolon actually did purchase those followers? Given how it seems relatively cheap ($100 according to the initial article), and extremely easy to detect, it seems just as likely that some random person did it.

I'm sorry if this is privilege talking. I tried to check it, but I failed my CCNA, so I don't really know what I'm looking at.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby LurkerPerson » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:26 pm  •  [Post 9982]

I'm going to be incredibly charitable and assume it wasn't Oolon but some other twat who believes that the ends justify the means. If the Blockbot is such an amazing and beneficial thing for twitter feministas, then paying for 40k fake followers probably isn't that big of a deal. On the other, conspiracy-laden hand, maybe it's some MRA douchebag deliberately hiring fakes to deligitimize (what little legitimacy there was) it.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:26 pm  •  [Post 9983]

Liesmith wrote:I don't want to come off as hyper-skeptic, but how do we know that Oolon actually did purchase those followers? Given how it seems relatively cheap ($100 according to the initial article), and extremely easy to detect, it seems just as likely that some random person did it.

I'm sorry if this is privilege talking. I tried to check it, but I failed my CCNA, so I don't really know what I'm looking at.


You're not being hyperskeptical IMO, but knowing what a sleazy conniving dirtbag Oolon is and considering that $100 is indeed a lot of money to drop just to prank someone, I find it very hard to believe that this was done just to pants Oolon.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby DownThunder » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:29 pm  •  [Post 9984]

Liesmith wrote:I don't want to come off as hyper-skeptic, but how do we know that Oolon actually did purchase those followers? Given how it seems relatively cheap ($100 according to the initial article), and extremely easy to detect, it seems just as likely that some random person did it.

I'm sorry if this is privilege talking. I tried to check it, but I failed my CCNA, so I don't really know what I'm looking at.


Spending 100 bucks to make Oo0l0on look more like a hypocritical lying douchebag? Fuck that.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby bovarchist » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:29 pm  •  [Post 9985]

Skep tickle wrote:Near the start of the hour, Justin said there were some comedy shows this evening at the PA conference he's attending, but he's missing them to do the radio show.



(The comedian's last name is familiar, however that's probably just coincidence)


Stolen from Eddie Murphy, for the record.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:31 pm  •  [Post 9986]

Liesmith wrote:I don't want to come off as hyper-skeptic, but how do we know that Oolon actually did purchase those followers?

We don't.

Liesmith wrote:Given how it seems relatively cheap ($100 according to the initial article), and extremely easy to detect, it seems just as likely that some random person did it. ...

Or someone who wanted to play a joke on him and/or Aratina, or discredit The Block Bot.

Or a clerical error at the Twitter Followers Central Bank.

Or, or, or...
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Liesmith » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:31 pm  •  [Post 9987]

I don't Twit, or whatever it is that you kids do these days, but it seems like such an absurdly easy thing to detect as to be pretty worthless unless you're a small business trying to get a tiny bump (relatively speaking) in traffic by appearing higher on some internet list or other (I don't computer). Given that the block bot was featured on that silly news report a few weeks ago, I'm willing to bet on either a neutral party, or Oolon himself as the culprit.

I think it's likely that the news report got spread around until some Lesser Troll spotted it and thought it'd be funny. In their defense, they were right. On the other hand, if it was just some random troll, then we should be seeing accusations of harassment (possibly accusing the Pit) shortly.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Parody Accountant » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:41 pm  •  [Post 9988]

And as I said before... anybody who wants to take down oolon's block bot can do so easily.

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It's still up, a week after my disclosure. I'm not linking to it, but here's who linked me to it: OOLON.

The parts I've pixelated are all you need to gain full control of the actual block bot. You could easily tell it to send an alert to all users to report the block bot twitter account as a spammer. Or a thousand more subtle ways to fuck with it.

Twitter specifically and emphatically demands that app developers be careful to NEVER reveal these strings. His own code even has comments urging him not to reveal them... This makes me nearly certain that he didn't write much of the code for the blockbot. It's probably copy pasted from some open source project.

Nothing wrong with a good forking, I suppose. Too bad oolon's a lousy fork.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Liesmith » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:46 pm  •  [Post 9989]

Parody Accountant wrote:Nothing wrong with a good forking, I suppose.


I don't know what that means, so I'm going to assume it's extremely inappropriate. Blocked. Reported.

EDIT: On further inspection, it appears to be reference to something done with computing machines. I don't trust anything with more transistors than me. Double-Blocked. Reported to the FBI.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:55 pm  •  [Post 9990]

Parody Accountant wrote:And as I said before... anybody who wants to take down oolon's block bot can do so easily.


Personally, I don't know why you would advertise that. Oolon's a tool and a fool, but if his silly bot is the only thing that has ever made him any friends, why shit on his Cheerios (at least, why shit on them illegitimately)?

Plus, if anyone were to do it, then Oolon would be legitimately able to point to the Pit as the cause, since you're advertising this supposed Achilles heel.

I prefer to fight honest, not dirty. And though I'm not a psychic, I would imagine that damn near everyone hear feels the same way.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:55 pm  •  [Post 9991]

*here
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Lsuoma » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:05 pm  •  [Post 9992]

Gumby wrote:
Liesmith wrote:I don't want to come off as hyper-skeptic, but how do we know that Oolon actually did purchase those followers? Given how it seems relatively cheap ($100 according to the initial article), and extremely easy to detect, it seems just as likely that some random person did it.

I'm sorry if this is privilege talking. I tried to check it, but I failed my CCNA, so I don't really know what I'm looking at.


You're not being hyperskeptical IMO, but knowing what a sleazy conniving dirtbag Oolon is and considering that $100 is indeed a lot of money to drop just to prank someone, I find it very hard to believe that this was done just to pants Oolon.

Correct. Especially given his propensity to shoot himself in the face so easily.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:05 pm  •  [Post 9993]

Liesmith wrote:
Parody Accountant wrote:Nothing wrong with a good forking, I suppose.


I don't know what that means, so I'm going to assume it's extremely inappropriate. Blocked. Reported.

EDIT: On further inspection, it appears to be reference to something done with computing machines. I don't trust anything with more transistors than me. Double-Blocked. Reported to the FBI.


No, no. You are supposed to take a photo with your smart phone & tweet it out to your 10,000 followers.

Oh, wait. You don't tweet.

I don't know that the FBI will care. You could call the NSA, but of course they probably already know all about it.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby AndrewV69 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:11 pm  •  [Post 9994]

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My response to your post over at Ally Fogg is here:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2013 ... mment-9199

Thanks – will probably post a response there later on. And also for the link to Agustin’s website which looks interesting and will be worth looking into in some detail. That trafficking issue looks to be a rather thorny one with more than a few things to be said on each side – don’t know if you’ve seen the documentaries by the Canadian Victor Malarek but his The Natashas - Inside The Global Sex Trade was disturbing to say the least.


I will have a look, just not right now. I have other things on the go right now and six dinner guests tomorrow.

Speaking of which I really like living in a high trust area. I wandered into a local grocery/deli this afternoon and placed an order for a nice cut of beef which they are going to cook for me, and have ready for pick up tomorrow afternoon.

All they asked for was my first name and a phone number. That was it. No ID, no money up front. I was told I could pay when I pick it up tomorrow.

It is not as if anyone in there knows me, and according to my Barber I look like a retired longshoreman so I was not giving off any "class" vibes (except I suppose for my accent).

Like I believe I have said earlier, I really do appreciate living in a high trust area.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Jan Steen » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:12 pm  •  [Post 9995]

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby welch » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:21 pm  •  [Post 9996]

Liesmith wrote:I don't Twit, or whatever it is that you kids do these days, but it seems like such an absurdly easy thing to detect as to be pretty worthless unless you're a small business trying to get a tiny bump (relatively speaking) in traffic by appearing higher on some internet list or other (I don't computer). Given that the block bot was featured on that silly news report a few weeks ago, I'm willing to bet on either a neutral party, or Oolon himself as the culprit.

I think it's likely that the news report got spread around until some Lesser Troll spotted it and thought it'd be funny. In their defense, they were right. On the other hand, if it was just some random troll, then we should be seeing accusations of harassment (possibly accusing the Pit) shortly.


Keep in mind, that the various services aren't "proving" the followers are fake. That's based on a set of assumptions that tends to be used by spammers and fake accounts, but it doesn't actually prove that each or even most of those accounts are fake.

Having said that, given how gleefully Oolio's "girlfriend who lives in Buffalo" used that same kind of 'sortakinda proof" on Al, i'm fine returning the favor.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Skep tickle » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:25 pm  •  [Post 9997]

Is Dan Arel someone it's worth trying to have a discussion with? I don't have him on my mental org chart of the A/S schism.



I replied but no response yet from him; maybe he's off-line now. (He doesn't seem to have me blocked, e.g. via blockbot).

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@danarel Seems difficult to twitter-discuss: nuance lost, detail curtailed. Does your moral compass point straight N, for everyone always?


Skep tickle ‏@Ellesun 26 m

@danarel Do you think it's immoral to kill any living thing? Any animal? Some animals? The line is drawn in diff. places, for diff. cultures


Unclear to me whether to expect a reply, and whether there's any point to posing other areas of cultural differences in which moral certitudes may differ (I'm thinking for example polyamory/polygamy (mutually agreeable between equals) vs monogamy).

I'm no philosopher, ethicist, or cultural anthropologist, so if it seems a worthwhile line of discussion to pursue, either weigh in yourself or feed me ideas please. ;)
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:32 pm  •  [Post 9998]

"if your moral compass has gray areas because of cultural relativism then are you really that moral?"

This is vague to say the least. If he's saying that people in different cultures have differing morals in some areas (e.g. what constitutes sexual immorality, etc.), then is he implying that differing cultural standards are "gray areas"? What does he mean by gray areas, and how would these gray areas be implied by cultural relativism?

Sounds an awful lot to me like he's saying "If your morals aren't my morals then you're not moral." Because I'm sure he considers himself moral, yet he mentions cultural relativism.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby TheMudbrooker » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:35 pm  •  [Post 9999]

welch wrote:No you fucking twat, I don't know if you have any experience doing it or not. You're the one making that claim. I said shit like that, even if it's a carnie trick is still not easy to do.

if you're going to claim you can perfectly replicate the EXACT SAME TRICK the guy in the video did, then you need to provide evidence such as:

You know for a fact exactly what kind of wood the plank is, and if it's not just cut ala normal planks exactly how it's put together.
You know for a fact exactly how he does the trick, even though, as far as we can tell, you have the exact same source we do. If you have better sources, by all means, name them.

Oh, and while you're at it, *prove* beyond all reasonable doubt that what happens in the video is in fact, a carnie trick or similar. I would love to see the ironclad evidence of even that.

Doing a similar trick with the same end result is not the same as doing EXACTLY what he did, in the same way that two different ways of building a canoe, even though the end canoes are nigh-identical, are not the same ways of building the fucking things.

By all means post the video, and even post extra clips of how you set the trick up, and how it relates to the original video. It'll be kind of cool to see. But I still fail to see how this "humiliates" me in any way shape or form, because it's not disproving anything I've said.


Where EXACTLY did I say I was going to do the trick EXACTLY the same way? As you rightly point out, the original video provides little in the way of evidence as to how the trick is done. Taking that as a given, which is more likely, that the end result is the product of intensive training and practice as you claim, or is it the product of a simple trick as I have said? You've said that the skill involved relates to the driving of the nail through the board, I say you're wrong, the real skill in the trick lies elsewhere and you've yet to even come close to mentioning what that skill might be. Yes indeed, it may be possible for a person with enough training and practice to actually drive a nail through a common board with their bare hands, but again, the original video provides no proof that that is what you are seeing.

As for your later post where you just can't understand why I might be annoyed with you, the answer is simple, throughout this exchange your tone has been that of a snotty, condecsending teenage girl. You've yet to miss an opportunity to get in a cutesey little dig or to project your own shitty attitude onto me.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ReneeHendricks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:38 pm  •  [Post 10000]

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Asthma sucks, big time. Have you tried all the usual allergy stuff (dairy, dust mites etc?) or is his problem something else? BTW hope your SO is doing well, and isn't too knocked about by his treatment.


We're off to see respiratory specialists and allergists in the next week or two so we can figure out what his particular trigger is. I'm just glad he's feeling so much better at this point. My guy is doing really well - so well, in fact, he's out mowing the lawns right now and it's nearly dark LOL Thanks for asking :)
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Gumby » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:45 pm  •  [Post 10001]

Gumby wrote:"if your moral compass has gray areas because of cultural relativism then are you really that moral?"

This is vague to say the least. If he's saying that people in different cultures have differing morals in some areas (e.g. what constitutes sexual immorality, etc.), then is he implying that differing cultural standards are "gray areas"? What does he mean by gray areas, and how would these gray areas be implied by cultural relativism?

Sounds an awful lot to me like he's saying "If your morals aren't my morals then you're not moral." Because I'm sure he considers himself moral, yet he mentions cultural relativism.


Actually, maybe he's thinking of situations where, say, someone thinks incest is wrong because that's the way his culture is, but is tolerant of the concept when it happens in a society where it is not frowned upon.*

When talking about Islam and Muhammad, for example, when people would get so disgusted at the thought of Muhammad marrying a 6 year old (or however young she was), I would point out that the culture of that time and place was much different than what we're used to today, so maybe we shouldn't judge using 21st century American moral standards. I used to get jumped on for that, why I don't know. Seems perfectly logical to me.

In any case, if that is the "cultural relativism" that the tweeter says makes you not moral, then he is a bigoted fuckwit for refusing to look at the world through any cultural lens but the one he grew up with.

*purely hypothetical, I really don't know of any modern cultures where boinking your sister is condoned.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Liesmith » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:51 pm  •  [Post 10002]

That's an interesting discussion Skep Tickle. My personal opinion is that there is some sort of absolute morality for a given species, at a given stage of evolution. For instance, it's perfectly moral for lions to chomp zebras at the moment, but if they each evolve sapience then it become murder. Does that mean that the standard changed, or did the species change and move into a new standard? Do roaming fees apply? I think some examples are labeled as relativism when it's more a matter of a new situation arising which requires a new standards be applied. The standard *always* applies to that situation, but it may not have arisen before.

For example: I'm against the death penalty; I believe that the only valid reason to kill a person is to defend an innocent*. However, if Magneto were a real person, I would completely advocate a bullet to his skull at earliest convenience. The standard for for murder, as it applies to humans, doesn't apply to a person who can level a city and degauss my hard drive from across town just by sneezing. It's not relativism, it's a new situation which requires a new standard.

I'm not "educated" or "lucid", but I've been reading the Uplift series, so that has to count for something...right?
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby dogen » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:54 pm  •  [Post 10003]

Parody Accountant wrote:And as I said before... anybody who wants to take down oolon's block bot can do so easily.

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It's still up, a week after my disclosure. I'm not linking to it, but here's who linked me to it: OOLON.

The parts I've pixelated are all you need to gain full control of the actual block bot. You could easily tell it to send an alert to all users to report the block bot twitter account as a spammer. Or a thousand more subtle ways to fuck with it.

Twitter specifically and emphatically demands that app developers be careful to NEVER reveal these strings. His own code even has comments urging him not to reveal them... This makes me nearly certain that he didn't write much of the code for the blockbot. It's probably copy pasted from some open source project.

Nothing wrong with a good forking, I suppose. Too bad oolon's a lousy fork.


It's good that [redacted] is such a common phrase, otherwise folks could look this up the Block Bot (BB) Access Token Secret with a quick Google.

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Pitchguest » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:59 pm  •  [Post 10004]




Really? A fake-follower generator? A fake... Aha... ahaha... ahahahahahahahaha... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously? A fake-follower GENERATOR? For Twitter?! :lol:
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby free thoughtpolice » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:10 pm  •  [Post 10005]

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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby ReneeHendricks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:21 pm  •  [Post 10006]

free thoughtpolice wrote:
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Another feminist;


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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby Aneris » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:24 pm  •  [Post 10007]

@dogen
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby comslave » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:26 pm  •  [Post 10008]

free thoughtpolice wrote:
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Another feminist;

Shame on you! Bad MRA!
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby dogen » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:28 pm  •  [Post 10009]

Aneris wrote:@dogen
… edited: You can point out that the block bot has certain flaws, we're not the Salvation Army, but there is a limit to pointing to it. I've redacted that word.


Fair dinkum.
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Re: Bleeding from the Bunghole

Postby acathode » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm  •  [Post 10010]

Gumby wrote:
Parody Accountant wrote:And as I said before... anybody who wants to take down oolon's block bot can do so easily.


Personally, I don't know why you would advertise that. Oolon's a tool and a fool, but if his silly bot is the only thing that has ever made him any friends, why shit on his Cheerios (at least, why shit on them illegitimately)?

Plus, if anyone were to do it, then Oolon would be legitimately able to point to the Pit as the cause, since you're advertising this supposed Achilles heel.

I prefer to fight honest, not dirty. And though I'm not a psychic, I would imagine that damn near everyone hear feels the same way.
If anything happens to the bot, Oolon and the rest of the clown will blame the pit no matter what we did or didn't do/say, and no, it won't be legitimate criticism just because PA posted this info - the security flaw is so easy to find ANYONE with basic programming knowledge could find it. Hell, it's even commented for gods sake! It's almost as if Oolon wants it to be found and used...

PA originally posted this info almost 10 days ago, if anyone here wanted to fight dirty, they'd have done so already. The fact that no one here hasn't, despite what a slimy turd Oolon is, speaks volumes about the pit's integrity.

Sure, normally, the way to go about security flaws you find in a program is usually to first point it out privately to give the programmers a chance to create a fix, and then only go public if to much time has passed without a fix appearing. But fuck that when it comes to Oolon, that's a curtsy, not a rule, and the block bot is already borderline malware considering it's secret report function.
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