Two for the price of one!I didn't get many catcalls or called "cunt" before the internet, but I never leave the house without a weapon
The first two I have. However, I haven't had the third since the late 80s. Oh well.franc wrote:You need a high end stereo, pitch darkness and LSD to really appreciate.Gumby wrote:That was fucking horrible.franc wrote:Suck on this.Git wrote:franc wrote:Also, Sabbath = best band ever.
Deserves its own smiley:Tigzy wrote:Oh shit! WoolyBumblebee has just joined the A+ forum. :lol:
Never know, it might actually get a bit interesting. /popcorn
You're not kidding! These people are bizarre (and not in a good, funny way, either):Gumby wrote:"Pwrong" @ http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=169#p169
Nah, they're not trying to take over the atheist movement, they're going to start their own separate thingamabob! Jen said so!On the topic of outreach to local atheist groups, in some cases it may be possible to simply tack on the A+ label to groups that already exist and agree with us.
Man, this place is going to be a fucking gold mine.
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 3&t=5#p179I agree entirely that mens' rights belong under feminism- hell, not even that, I believe that mens' rights are an intrinsic part of feminism.
Then logically, women's rights are an intrinsic part of men's rights. Ooops, no, we can't have that. That's uncomfortably close to humanism, and as has been repeatedly femsplained to us, atheism+ isn't humanism!Tigzy wrote:
You're not kidding! These people are bizarre (and not in a good, funny way, either):
Womens' problems - listen to the wimminz!!!I agree entirely that mens' rights belong under feminism- hell, not even that, I believe that mens' rights are an intrinsic part of feminism.
Mens' problems - listen to the wimminz!!!!
http://oi47.tinypic.com/4qm0yw.jpgGumby wrote:"BillPlus" @ http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=160#p160Yep, they started a whole new movement, and they don't even know what it is yet. All they've managed to do so far is tack a fucking plus sign at the end of the atheist "A" and attract a bunch of Women's Studies 101 armchair slacktivists. "Wheee! We're gonna change the world? Uh, what is this all about, anyway?"I think the first step should be establishing a formal declaration of intent by which all local groups can rally around. Something that formally sets the definition of what A+ means and sets guidelines for how it operates. Bringing about social and political change is not unlike marketing and A+ should be thought of like a “brandâ€. As such we need to formally establish what that brand is and then work to protect it.
The troll just copied another comment and added the anti-Semitic crap to the end.I think the first step should be establishing a formal declaration of intent by which all local groups can rally around. Something that formally sets the definition of what A+ means and sets guidelines for how it operates. Bringing about social and political change is not unlike marketing and A+ should be thought of like a “brandâ€. As such we need to formally establish what that brand is and then work to protect it. And we have to do something about those Jews.
Yeah, I caught that, obviously. Like I said, someone copied someone else's comment and tacked on troll shit at the end.franc wrote: http://oi47.tinypic.com/4qm0yw.jpg
Pshaw. Washed out pussy commercial Buttholes. Everything post Locust Abortion Technician is Gibby's pension fund.Gumby wrote:This, however, is a Butthole Surfers jam I always have liked:
CNAkbbKycCM
Gumby wrote:"BillPlus" @ http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=160#p160Yep, they started a whole new movement, and they don't even know what it is yet. All they've managed to do so far is tack a fucking plus sign at the end of the atheist "A" and attract a bunch of Women's Studies 101 armchair slacktivists. "Wheee! We're gonna change the world? Uh, what is this all about, anyway?"I think the first step should be establishing a formal declaration of intent by which all local groups can rally around. Something that formally sets the definition of what A+ means and sets guidelines for how it operates. Bringing about social and political change is not unlike marketing and A+ should be thought of like a “brandâ€. As such we need to formally establish what that brand is and then work to protect it.
Anti-semitic? I think it's an example of particularly dark Jewish sense of humour.Gumby wrote:The troll just copied another comment and added the anti-Semitic crap to the end.
I certainly hope that didn't come from here. I seriously doubt it did (and we'll get blamed no matter what in any case)
The Importance of Being Earnest ....Tigzy wrote:Ye gods, but that A+ forum is a dry and humorless place; I've never seen such a display of bland earnestness on all the interwebz.
Good luck with that one, folks.
We can always blame Franc?Gumby wrote:I certainly hope that didn't come from here. I seriously doubt it did (and we'll get blamed no matter what in any case), but just in case it did I'm going on record right now and saying *puts on Spokesgay panties* Don't. Just don't. Don't do that. Stop it. Now.
No need to troll. The lulz will come all on their own.
Jen Mc1000YrReich: These are the words that are not to be used again on this programme.Notung wrote:http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6
And here they have a list of arguments you're not allowed to use.
I like this bit:Notung wrote:http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6
And here they have a list of arguments you're not allowed to use.
Imagine if the theists did that: "You're not allowed to use the Problem of Evil, Lack of Evidence, Logically Contradictory Characteristics..."
Ok Craig - you're not allowed to use Kalam. I win!
(my bolding) - in fact, it may even be reasonable to assume dishonesty even before the slippery but plausibly innocent questions have been asked, eh Jen! :lol:Civility guidelines are not an excuse for bad behaviour: The above rules are guidelines for dealing with the majority of cases. They are not absolute laws, and they are certainly not excuses to hide behind. If there is no reasonable explanation for a post besides malice, then it is not necessary to pretend otherwise. If someone endlessly brings up the same refuted argument in multiple threads, then engaging them straight away may be justified. If someone with an atrocious reputation from elsewhere asks slippery but plausibly innocent questions, then it may be reasonable to assume dishonesty.
For that you get a special rank!!!Michael K Gray wrote: (This blog software actually auto-censors the word S E M P R I N I !!)
If you mention your banning from A Voice For men right off the bat that may earn you some street cred. Going to register? :popcorn:Steersman wrote:The Importance of Being Earnest ....Tigzy wrote:Ye gods, but that A+ forum is a dry and humorless place; I've never seen such a display of bland earnestness on all the interwebz.
Good luck with that one, folks.
They've only just started ... maybe they'll yet develop a sense of humour ....
Who said they didn’t have a sense of humour; from the same page:Notung wrote:http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6
And here they have a list of arguments you're not allowed to use.
Imagine if the theists did that: "You're not allowed to use the Problem of Evil, Lack of Evidence, Logically Contradictory Characteristics..."
Ok Craig - you're not allowed to use Kalam. I win!
Josh, the Official Spokesgay is therefore covered .... or maybe he wrote that point ....Stick the flounce: If you flounce from a thread, by angrily announcing that you're leaving or giving up, you should not post on that thread again.
I'm not banking on it - with that amount of rules and regs, people there are liable to err on the side of caution when it comes to humour. Still, I'd concede there are plenty of unintentional lulz to come from that forum, as we've already seen.Steersman wrote:The Importance of Being Earnest ....Tigzy wrote:Ye gods, but that A+ forum is a dry and humorless place; I've never seen such a display of bland earnestness on all the interwebz.
Good luck with that one, folks.
They've only just started ... maybe they'll yet develop a sense of humour ....
Ummmm........Notung wrote:http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6
And here they have a list of arguments you're not allowed to use.
Imagine if the theists did that: "You're not allowed to use the Problem of Evil, Lack of Evidence, Logically Contradictory Characteristics..."
Ok Craig - you're not allowed to use Kalam. I win!
AndrewV69 wrote:If you mention your banning from A Voice For men right off the bat that may earn you some street cred. Going to register? :popcorn:Steersman wrote:The Importance of Being Earnest ....Tigzy wrote:Ye gods, but that A+ forum is a dry and humorless place; I've never seen such a display of bland earnestness on all the interwebz.
Good luck with that one, folks.
They've only just started ... maybe they'll yet develop a sense of humour ....
LOL, an anti-Dawkins rule!Don't dismiss people's problems by appealing to greater problems: For almost every problem, it is possible to find a substantially worse problem. This should not be used, however, to dismiss the original problem. For example, the plight of women under the Taliban is absolutely dreadful, but this doesn't mean that any problem faced by a western woman is trivial.
yeah, Damion nailed it pretty good.ERV wrote:THIS.
"Galloping Gertie", the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State. An engineering fail.Gumby wrote:That was fucking horrible.franc wrote:Suck on this.Git wrote:franc wrote:Also, Sabbath = best band ever.
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Ahh, sweet memories of the Occupy ''movement' with some Kony 2012 mixed in. I'm sure they'll go far.Gumby wrote:"BillPlus" @ http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=160#p160Yep, they started a whole new movement, and they don't even know what it is yet. All they've managed to do so far is tack a fucking plus sign at the end of the atheist "A" and attract a bunch of Women's Studies 101 armchair slacktivists. "Wheee! We're gonna change the world? Uh, what is this all about, anyway?"I think the first step should be establishing a formal declaration of intent by which all local groups can rally around. Something that formally sets the definition of what A+ means and sets guidelines for how it operates. Bringing about social and political change is not unlike marketing and A+ should be thought of like a “brandâ€. As such we need to formally establish what that brand is and then work to protect it.
And talk about a loaded fucking statement:Don't dismiss people's problems by appealing to greater problems: For almost every problem, it is possible to find a substantially worse problem. This should not be used, however, to dismiss the original problem. For example, the plight of women under the Taliban is absolutely dreadful, but this doesn't mean that any problem faced by a western woman is trivial.
(My bolds).Don't change the topic to less severe problems: If a particular problem is being discussed, it is dismissive to generalise this into a conversation about less severe problems. Such problems may also be very important, but they should be discussed elsewhere. For example, a discussion about female genital mutilation should not degenerate into a debate about the morality of male circumcision.
I highly recommend this. The Baboons won't like it, that's for sure.justinvacula wrote:As promised...
Last night I was invited to be a guest on the A-News podcast to discuss Atheism Plus. Joining me -- also voicing criticism of A+ -- were Lee Moore, Brian Allen, and Reap Paden.
http://a-news.apartmentj.com/?p=704
Enjoy!
It doesn't matter, the A+theism meme is now out there forever, and I for one will not stop bringing it up (it's just too funny not to be mentioned, over and over again. Major props to ERV for catching it first). The best part is they can't blame anyone but themselves for this lulz worthy misstep. They've become a living satire :lol:Badger3k wrote: Thanks for that. When I just looked, it was changed.
There is a tradition on a few forums I post to. Whenever one goes down, one of the other forums puts up a "refugee" thread for members to use while their problems get fixed. So, anytime in the future that slymepit.com goes down, there is a thread waiting at Atheists Today. :)Lsuoma wrote:The hosting company is trying to identify the cause of some unexpected load spike (the load average has been spiking to around 250 at times, which on an 8-way box isn't particularly pretty.)
Please be patient...
Does that include 'Radial Tire'?No sockpuppetry: Creating more than one identity, and using these identities to create the illusion of support, or to provide straw opponents, is prohibited. Use of a secondary identity is permitted under exceptional circumstances, such as revealing a distressing personal story.
Resonance in action ....Guest wrote: ...
"Galloping Gertie", the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State. An engineering fail.
I prefer the more expanded version:Saint N. wrote: and lest we forget,
http://i48.tinypic.com/4qpmjb.jpg
There's nothing new under the recreational drug-sun that the Butthole Surfers haven't tried.franc wrote:You need a high end stereo, pitch darkness and LSD to really appreciate.
I can imagine Jen dressed in a My Little Pony costume (carrying a weapon, of course - http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... pocalypse/),Za-zen wrote:A+theism.... It is had said many times before, you just can't parody these fuckwits, the reality is always more absurd.
Lets expand on Myers analogy, this party is the atheist party, and fine myers and his morons go off to the library for their circle jerk because they don't appreciate socialising with the unclean, but can they stay in the fucking library? No. The bastards start whining to the host about all the horrible people who are at the party wanting them kicked out, in order to make it a nicer party, start threatening the host that they'll ruin the party if their demands for a nicer party aren't met, they start demanding the other attendees keep the noise down, they are all in fancy dress, and think everyone else should be in fancy dress. They are told the fancy dress party is in the house down the road, and really if they don't like the party they should fuck off to it, but they insist all partys should be fancy dress.
http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/07 ... comic-con/â€... it’s troubling that with boundless opportunities for playful dress, most women at conventions end up as “variations of pin-up girl.†...
One reason the sexualized objectification of women in cosplay cannot be easily written off with be-whoever-you-want-to-be or dress-however-you-want-to-dress mantras is that sexual harassment of women cosplayers at cons is rampant. While all people should be able to dress as they wish without fear of sexual harassment or violence, the longstanding tactic of using the women’s bodies as commodified objects at cons creates an atmosphere in which real-life women are treated as if they are comic book characters ripe for the handling. Disturbingly misogynistic blogs featuring galleries of women cosplayers further illustrate this way of thinking.
This attitude is no doubt amplified by the omnipresence of paid cosplayers. Scantily clad, often very young women (and even girls) acting as “bodies for hire†were everywhere amongst the throngs of people, passing out ads or serving as human advertisements for upcoming films. What almost naked women with fake torpedo breasts have to do with films such as the forthcoming Total Recall is unclear. Here and elsewhere, the marketing tactic seemed to be “use hot women to lure people in, regardless of what we are trying to sell.â€
One thing that struck me over the course of the weekend is how quickly it starts to feel “normal†to see women’s bodies on fetishized display. If I, a card-carrying feminist, become somewhat immune over the course of four days, what does the constant onslaught of female sexual objectification in the wider culture do to people over years?"
"Hooligans" with Tourette's Syndrome who also have a neurological disorder that renders them unable to control their own limbs are being oppressed, shunned, and discriminated against by members of Atheism Plus....hooligans who wander about calling everyone “cunts†and slapping derrieres and telling women to stop being so sensitive, it was only a quick fondle...
I am a firm believer in dismissing relatively minor (especially WAH SOMEONE CALLED ME A CUNT) problems on account of worse problems existing.Ms. Ogynist wrote:LOL, an anti-Dawkins rule!Don't dismiss people's problems by appealing to greater problems: For almost every problem, it is possible to find a substantially worse problem. This should not be used, however, to dismiss the original problem. For example, the plight of women under the Taliban is absolutely dreadful, but this doesn't mean that any problem faced by a western woman is trivial.
Let's call it Rebecca's Law.
Ha! Talk about framing.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: And talk about a loaded fucking statement:
(My bolds).Don't change the topic to less severe problems: If a particular problem is being discussed, it is dismissive to generalise this into a conversation about less severe problems. Such problems may also be very important, but they should be discussed elsewhere. For example, a discussion about female genital mutilation should not degenerate into a debate about the morality of male circumcision.
wutdustbubble wrote:Being old white and garbage, I've discovered that most of my peers are profoundly leery about all forms of miso
even more so than they are of the vile nam pla
Don't ever feel the need to explain your 'what am I doingness'. Whenever that question has been thrown my way there has always been a hook in the bait.gooby wrote:
And, in case anyone is wondering what I'M doing to tackle the world's great problems, well, let's say I have a plan to reduce carbon emissions in my country that involves chemistry. Beyond that I can't say too much. Trade secrets.
Generally speaking, I just don't bother dealing with FfTB smuggots and their ilk anymore.Mr Danksworth wrote:Don't ever feel the need to explain your 'what am I doingness'. Whenever that question has been thrown my way there has always been a hook in the bait.gooby wrote:
And, in case anyone is wondering what I'M doing to tackle the world's great problems, well, let's say I have a plan to reduce carbon emissions in my country that involves chemistry. Beyond that I can't say too much. Trade secrets.
brown sauce, yum. That and Branston Pickle are a bit easier to find here in full size, and the price is not insolent, as it is for Marmite.Tigzy wrote:Marmite's okay - sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't - but when it comes to pungent brown condiments, this tops the lot:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_25fOuKxZ2OY/S ... auce,0.jpg
I laugh at all those people overseas, who have never had a bacon and brown sauce sandwich.
NIce!gooby wrote: Bottom line is I'll be getting shit done (when I'm good and ready—a lot of preparation is involved in my case); they'll be jerking off until the coffin dips...
...and pink things, and tiaras, and Robert Pattinson, and diamonds, and rainbows and such.And there’s a General Chat section on the Forum, to talk about whatever you wan with others who share the values of Atheism Plus. Cats, skeet shooting, Project Runway… whatever.
I'd rather see a band that can't play but tries than virtuosos going through the motions.BarnOwl wrote:There's nothing new under the recreational drug-sun that the Butthole Surfers haven't tried.franc wrote:You need a high end stereo, pitch darkness and LSD to really appreciate.
And a lot of hardcore punk is fucking horrible ... some of the reasons for that are described in The Decline of Western Civilization.
"Didn't know how to play their instruments" applied to the Germs, for example. I think poor Darby Crash died without ever learning.
Which is why I love it.BarnOwl wrote:And a lot of hardcore punk is fucking horrible ...
Which is why I love it 2.BarnOwl wrote:And a lot of hardcore punk is fucking horrible ...
I'm going to pull a SulryAmy and cry that their attempt to create a A+theism forum is harassment against us, because we had the idea first. Theirs is a fake forum! A fake forum I say!!! We are the only ones who can have a legit forum in this discussion, because...reasons and shit...also my feeling. Why are they harassing us like this by making this obviously fakeGreta Christina wrote:And there’s a General Chat section on the Forum, to talk about whatever you wan with others who share the values of Atheism Plus. Cats, skeet shooting, Project Runway… whatever.
