If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

AnonymousCowherd wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:
I think agreeing on what doxxing IS, is one of the problems.
Was revealing Brownians name an example of doxxing?
Was that any different from the way Wolly Bumblebees name was revealed?

What exactly is meant by intended audience.
Is revealing your RL name on a public messageboard enough to consider it public knowledge?
There are lots of nuances to this that depend on defining what the words mean in the first place.
(and unfortunately doxxing doesn't seem to be in the dictionary!)

There's never going to be a neat, agreed, definition of something that involves an element of ethical judgement. People will make that judgement based on all kinds of different grounds, according to their own agendas, so exactly the same behaviour will be OK to some and "bad" (doxxing) to others, and there is no Court to appeal to for a ruling on any given case, other than that of public (internet) opinion. Which is not exactly known for its consistency or its considered, thought out, well-informed, judgements on, well, anything really.

As ever, what is "ethical" is down to us individually, perhaps informed by what we believe others think, and what we can live with in ourselves. E.g. I have never doxxed anyone AFAIK, but I'm happy to comment on the size of Rebecca "Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers" Watson's huge tuchis, so should I be forced to become just plain "Cowherd" for that? I mean, I use my real name in other places (including the internet) but I'd never use it here because I don't want to be forever associated with all you arseholes*. Surely that would be cruel and unusual punishment.

*Though I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Just meet the standards you demand of others. Or at least honestly try to. That's all I ask.

Eucliwood wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:
[youtube]srUv0PG4_RE[/youtube]

Wow, that's another interesting reason to wear a seatbelt. They never showed an example like ending up in the *backseat* out of the window in classes.

*takes notes*

How the hell do you dose off while driving before getting ultra scared at your sleepiness and deciding to pull over? Seriously wtf o.o

Because you are working two jobs, going to college full time, sleeping around an hour a day, and none of the bosses or teachers give a fuck about your need for sleep. Shit has to get done, you better do it. Drink more coffee, do what you have to do. Do it for a few years.

Ape+lust wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:Ape+Lust's remark about the dreaful sense of humor of the FTB crowd got me thinking about whether any good joke has come out of their side in the past year and a half.
I mean, people here aren't perfect. Someone on this side must have said or done something silly or hypocritical within that time that could be mocked the way we joke about their carry on...

I think it's like expecting humor out of the Soviet Union. When you're grim, repressed, and obsessive, you'll see crimes where others see absurdities. That stupid Intent is Not Magic incantation they love explains a lot about their attitudes -- they're waiting on the millions of backlogged apologies the world owes them.

I think that's an unfair comparison to the Soviet Union.
Quite a bit of dark humor circulated among the masses in the USSR, usually focussed on the day-to-day absurdities of trying to deal with an unworkable system.
Soviet citizens developed a habit of joining any long line they saw on the assumption there must be something to buy at the end of it. One guy finally gets to the end of the line and asks for a loaf of bread. The woman behind the empty counter says; "This is a butcher's shop. This is where we don't have any meat. The baker's shop is over there. That's where they don't have any bread".
Loses a little in the translation perhaps, but it contains a level of self-awareness not found in Baboon-ism.

welch wrote: Because you are working two jobs, going to college full time, sleeping around an hour a day, and none of the bosses or teachers give a fuck about your need for sleep. Shit has to get done, you better do it. Drink more coffee, do what you have to do. Do it for a few years.

I always wondered how people "skipped" and shiz. There's no coffee in that car, and that only answers a possibility as to why he's so sleepy. I'm not that dumb that someone needs to tell me that. You're... hurting my feelings, welch. :[

franc wrote:

RedWedding wrote:

EdgePenguin wrote:Has somebody contacted CFI to explain how Melody is bringing them into serious disrepute?

Well, Melody did not post that, it was posted on her wall and she has not deleted it yet (if she wants to)
As the poster (Stacy) is a volunteer as CFI LA and (Alice Who liked the post) is the office manager of CFI LA, maybe that group should be contacted.
It won't do any good of course.

Nope. Not with a baboon like Ron Lindsay in charge. He's either completely complicit or, now that he's realised that he's allowed vipers into his nest, he's too terrified to make a move.

He's a corporate lawyer. It's my guess that he doesn't give a shit about the cause's authenticity, only it's image and ability to take/make money from the atheists. Some so-called charities are when a person and their friends take on the directorship and other upper eschalon roles at a high salary. Then, with some of the leftover donated money and volunteer labour living on profuse thanking, to actual secular causes (eg: stopping theocratic laws). I would really like to see a comparison chart of all the registered AND unregistered *cough! amy! watson! cough!* atheist/secularist organizations, showing how much money went to salaries (and a breakdown of that), how much to other overhead, and finally how much of their intake money went to actual activism (eg: cost of bus ads, lobbying, or suing to change laws, etc).

And I don't consider convention holidays given to women (only!) to be actual activism. However, using donated money for child care at conventions in order to assist access to parental caregivers (usually but not exclusively women), IS an actual act of activism, improving access to what conventions were meant to be (before the feminist infection), a place of learning and socializing for atheists/humanists/skeptics/secularists/etc.

mutleyeng wrote: yes Stalin was a screw up, and there was plenty of absurd strategy going on...all the way to the gates of Moscow. But what happened then? Stalin had a panic attack, went awol, and his military got to start doing it right. Even if they lost Moscow, so what...they had plenty of land to fall back into.

True, and the sheer amount of room told on the Wermacht (even psychologically), but space with no weapons/munitions factories in it isn't much use.

The fundamental battleplan of the Wehrmacht absolutely relied on the red armys total collapse and capitulation, much as happened in western europe. They considered the Russians sub human and incapable of any kind of concerted resistance. They were wrong.

Not really. The Red Army was an almost total shambles by late '41. It was the weather and the Wermacht's lack of preparedness that saved them that year.

In order to come up with a Wehrmacht win, you have to assume first that Stalin would continue being a dick and not at some people realize he was out of his depth (which seems unlikely given what we know about his panic at Moscow) and that the Red Army would fail to learn from their strategic blunders - which history shows was not the case.

I don't think Stalin ever stopped being a dick. The only good decision he made in WWII was to not shoot Zhukov! I'd love it to get hold of a good wargame of it all. I reckon I could pull off a Wermacht win. Mind you, I thought that about playing the Confederacy at Gettysburg!

real horrorshow wrote:
I don't think Stalin ever stopped being a dick. The only good decision he made in WWII was to not shoot Zhukov! I'd love it to get hold of a good wargame of it all. I reckon I could pull off a Wermacht win. Mind you, I thought that about playing the Confederacy at Gettysburg!

Bloody hell, next you'll be telling me that you could get Sealion to work.

(insert pre-emptive link to the definitive takedown of Sealion here: http://www.philm.demon.co.uk/Miscellaneous/Sealion.htm)

rocko2466 wrote:Rebitchka sounds like a name made up by people with very little creativity. My guess is Ophelia made that one up to amuse herself.

One thing I know is that the slymepitters are VERY creative.

When I search it I don't get very many results of people choosing to use it against her, if you mean Rebecca. There are many posts about Ophelia or someone else mentioning it though. Maybe it's just not being indexed by Google.

Ape+lust wrote:

franc wrote:Which is why the complete Oxford English Dictionary is 20 volumes and 22,000+ pages I guess. They did their best to keep it "compact" just to fuck with SJW no doubt. Morons.

Every time I've seen them discover their ideology is at cross-purposes with meatspace reality, it's meatspace that's wrong. Mao depended on pissants like these to be enforcers for his Cultural Revolution. I'm glad they're fringe and not the front edge of a genuine popular movement.

Yeah, don't mind me. viewtopic.php?p=45648#p45648

Eucliwood wrote:

rocko2466 wrote:Rebitchka sounds like a name made up by people with very little creativity. My guess is Ophelia made that one up to amuse herself.

One thing I know is that the slymepitters are VERY creative.

When I search it I don't get very many results of people choosing to use it against her, if you mean Rebecca. There are many posts about Ophelia or someone else mentioning it though. Maybe it's just not being indexed by Google.

Holy shit, I thought this was atheismplus. I was being all polite and crap... I could've sworn this was atheismplus.

Al Stefanelli wrote:Well, not really 'shoes,' but it does help me walk.

I needed something for those times in-between when I can sorta get around with my cane and when I need to use one of my wheelchairs. So, my Neurologist wrote me a scrip for something called a 'Rollator.' For those familiar with durable medical equipment and how Medicare works, it took a bit of cajoling to get them to cover this, which is basically about $200.00 or so.

Stupid thing is that all it took was one phone call and a scrip for Medicare to cover the cost of my $6,000.00 electric wheelchair. WTF?

Anyhow, this will be arriving today:

http://alstefanelli.com/rollator.jpg

I don't get it. Those things are $100 at Walgreens. I bought one for my dad.

My question: why is Matt Dillahunty always going on such short drives?

That was me. Don't know why I wasn't logged in and posted as a guest.

Al Stefanelli wrote:I've been banned from posting to Reddit for a while, now. I mean, I can physically post there, but my links don't show up anywhere. I haven't been able to get anyone to specifically tell me why, but it started with a ban in r/politics for posting something someone didn't like, apparently. Looks like I'll have to create another account...

If you've truly been banned from the whole site, it may/probably has something to do with the links you post.

Are those links primarily to your own work, your own blog, your own sites? I believe that's considered a no no, and what got The Atlantic kicked off reddit for several months. You can check the faq, but I believe you need to have a very healthy mix of other sites, plus your own links.

real horrorshow wrote:
I don't think Stalin ever stopped being a dick. The only good decision he made in WWII was to not shoot Zhukov!

He came very close to shoot him a few years later and banished him to the countryside instead, but the stage had already been set for a death sentence. I've recently seen a quite dramatic reconstruction of the trial behind closed doors - comrade Stalin presiding.

Guest wrote:My question: why is Matt Dillahunty always going on such short drives?

He's just driving from the sofa to the fridge and back.

:mrgreen:

Al Stefanelli wrote:Oh, incidentally, my actual shoes cost close to $500.00, but they are orthopedic/prescription. Thought I'd throw that out there because somewhere in one of my blogs I mentioned this, and I figured I'd get ahead of the 'Al spends $500.00 on HIS shoes.' They're covered by Medicare.

I know, I know. Privilege... Lmfao.

I wouldn't have bothered pre-empting them, if only on the off chance the following conversation could happen:

>FTB "Ermagherd!!1 Al wears shoes that cost $$$$, he's so decadent and eccentric!"
>AL "They are covered by Medicare, and are orthopedic..hence the price"
>FTB "Oh, er...I...um...guess I didn't realise, they aren't a luxury at all"
>AL "So, do you stand corrected?"
>FTB "Um, yes, yes I do"
> Al "Good, that makes two of us then"

Re: Ophelia being the barmaid. Would you drink in that bar? I personally prefer throwing up after I drink, not before or during.

mordacious1 wrote:Re: Ophelia being the barmaid. Would you drink in that bar? I personally prefer throwing up after I drink, not before or during.

sick. I wouldn't drink anything prepared by her nor hold a cup that she touched.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:Well, not really 'shoes,' but it does help me walk.

I needed something for those times in-between when I can sorta get around with my cane and when I need to use one of my wheelchairs. So, my Neurologist wrote me a scrip for something called a 'Rollator.' For those familiar with durable medical equipment and how Medicare works, it took a bit of cajoling to get them to cover this, which is basically about $200.00 or so.

Stupid thing is that all it took was one phone call and a scrip for Medicare to cover the cost of my $6,000.00 electric wheelchair. WTF?

Anyhow, this will be arriving today:

http://alstefanelli.com/rollator.jpg

I don't get it. Those things are $100 at Walgreens. I bought one for my dad.

They range from $80 to $500, depending on several factors such as weight rating, wheel size, braking mechanisms, seating and storage options, etc. This particular model ranges from $185 - $225. Weight rating 300 lbs (US) and 7.5 inch wheels, etc.

Al Stefanelli wrote:[spoiler]

katamari Damassi wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:Well, not really 'shoes,' but it does help me walk.

I needed something for those times in-between when I can sorta get around with my cane and when I need to use one of my wheelchairs. So, my Neurologist wrote me a scrip for something called a 'Rollator.' For those familiar with durable medical equipment and how Medicare works, it took a bit of cajoling to get them to cover this, which is basically about $200.00 or so.

Stupid thing is that all it took was one phone call and a scrip for Medicare to cover the cost of my $6,000.00 electric wheelchair. WTF?

Anyhow, this will be arriving today:

http://alstefanelli.com/rollator.jpg

I don't get it. Those things are $100 at Walgreens. I bought one for my dad.

[/spoiler]

They range from $80 to $500, depending on several factors such as weight rating, wheel size, braking mechanisms, seating and storage options, etc. This particular model ranges from $185 - $225. Weight rating 300 lbs (US) and 7.5 inch wheels, etc.

I think that's almost exactly the same model we received for my father. It *was* harder to get that for him than other much more expensive items. Weird.

You should totally deck it out with flames and a WCOA sticker :D

LOL! Just saw the tagline for the 'pit: "Gleefully Tap Dancing on the Grave of A+Theism (in Designer Shoes Bought With Dodgy Money!)"

Ape+lust wrote:

Dick Strawkins wrote:I guess there is a lesson to be learned that if you exaggerate your oponents faults too much (such as saying that the slympit is an organizing center for rape threat harrassment campaigns), then anything you say about them, which isn't just as bad as that, actually works against you - it portrays the opponents in a better light than you intended.

Heh. I think that's true, their ever more lurid warnings about this place has made them ludicrous. We're a nest of Marc Lepines? We'd murder women if we weren't such chickenshits? It'll be fun to see how PZ tops that. And he will, because he has to. When your running crew includes the likes of Anthony K and Redhead, who'd have exploding blue balls if they went 3 days without barking scorn at someone, your opponents had better be singularly EVIL.

As a noobie, I admit, I believed the rumours. I didn't know a single thing about the split, all I knew is that there were apparently 'pervs' on the slymepit who had some sort of weird vendetta against Ophelia. In fact, FTB tries really hard to portray the 'pit as being the same as that reddit guy who posted violent misogynistic upskirt pics of 12 year old girls, and other stuff. A nest of rapists indeed.

What made the entire thing so fishy, however, is the labeling of Dawkins, Abbie Smith, thunderfoot, and various other well known names as rapists. And then Al Stefanelli left shortly after I had begun reading his blog. Al certainly sounded cool, and didn't sound like a rapist, so why was he being portrayed that way? (in fact, Al's blog posts about how the bible is misogynistic kinda gave the -opposite- impression of that).

So, all that bullshit + abusive behaviour from A+ers drove me here, to take a real look at you folks. And lo and behold, it is -not- a nest of evil misogynists bent on sexually harassing women at TAM.

another lurker wrote:
What made the entire thing so fishy, however, is the labeling of Dawkins, Abbie Smith, thunderfoot, and various other well known names as rapists. And then Al Stefanelli left shortly after I had begun reading his blog. Al certainly sounded cool, and didn't sound like a rapist, so why was he being portrayed that way? (in fact, Al's blog posts about how the bible is misogynistic kinda gave the -opposite- impression of that).

So, all that bullshit + abusive behaviour from A+ers drove me here, to take a real look at you folks. And lo and behold, it is -not- a nest of evil misogynists bent on sexually harassing women at TAM.

Al doesn't need to rape...he has the WCOA and his racist hat, which are petty much the ultimate chick magnets
now with his new wheels he's gunna slay em all

jimthepleb wrote:Al doesn't need to rape...he has the WCOA and his racist hat, which are petty much the ultimate chick magnets
now with his new wheels he's gunna slay em all

I gave a shout-out to the racist hat thing in my last video by wearing my racist hat, my homophobe hat, my misogynist hat and my hats of bigotry and hatred throughout the video.

As well, WCOA Productions has a new sponsor, which was given credit in the final frame of the video:

http://www.alstefanelli.com/sjwhatfilmlogo.jpg

papillon wrote: >AL "So, do you stand corrected?"
>FTB "Um, yes, yes I do"
> Al "Good, that makes two of us then"

What's the BBCode for a rimshot?

franc wrote:

rocko2466 wrote:Rebitchka sounds like a name made up by people with very little creativity. My guess is Ophelia made that one up to amuse herself.

One thing I know is that the slymepitters are VERY creative.

Of course cobweb cunt made it up. She fabricates virtually every accusation about this place. Also, while she may claim to have never called Abbie names directly, she uses her name + "rape" + "cunt" in the same sentence with sickening frequency; one can assume for no other purpose than slander and reputation poisoning by search engine. Pruney also obsessess about cuntkick because, deep down, she knows its the least she deserves.

My guess is 'crazy cunt lady' secretly fantasises about it. Naughty, kinky granny!

ShadowOfTheWickerman wrote:

Pitchguest wrote:

codelette wrote:Regarding Greta's shoes. As tacky as her move was, if the people that donated her money do not give a fuck...then, so be it.
I do have to say that those shoes are ugly as fuck, but then those fuckers are not known for having great taste in fashion.
Talking about expensive shoes, I spent 300+ bucks on a new pair of Frye boots (cause they are badass and I didn't have to troll for donations to get em.)
[spoiler]http://dsv72jclfpnu0.cloudfront.net/ima ... 1351791301[/spoiler]
...they match my racist fedora hat.

I can say this much, if Greta Christina had the money to buy $300 shoes and weren't recently the survivor of cancer (of very benign cancer granted, but still) then I wouldn't have given a fuck.

Since she didn't, though, and she is, and the money came from donations in the belief they would go to desperate medical bills, I do care.

(Sorry, codelette, don't mean to be a joykill. Love your racist boots.)

Nonono, the shoes were part of her medical expenses. They were needed to patch up her bruised ego.

I agree. Fools and their money... Let FTB become Free Thought televangelists living high on the hog at their idiot flock's expensive. Does anyone care if the shit head followers of FTB get fleeced?

Here, your daily schadenfreude:

[youtube]RtlYi1yLTVQ[/youtube]

Reminds me of crap we pulled on planes. (Pro Tip: before you crawl in the engine nacelle with the de-static tool, make sure your asshole coworkers didn't "accidently" not/disconnect the ground line. )

welch wrote:Here, your daily schadenfreude:

[spoiler][youtube]RtlYi1yLTVQ[/youtube][/spoiler]

Reminds me of crap we pulled on planes. (Pro Tip: before you crawl in the engine nacelle with the de-static tool, make sure your asshole coworkers didn't "accidently" not/disconnect the ground line. )

Shit - I'm laughing my ass off now. That was just fucking priceless!

ReneeHendricks wrote:

welch wrote:Here, your daily schadenfreude:

[spoiler][youtube]RtlYi1yLTVQ[/youtube][/spoiler]

Reminds me of crap we pulled on planes. (Pro Tip: before you crawl in the engine nacelle with the de-static tool, make sure your asshole coworkers didn't "accidently" not/disconnect the ground line. )

Shit - I'm laughing my ass off now. That was just fucking priceless!

Im just wondering if he did that on purpose, for the laughs, or is truly that stupid?

ReneeHendricks wrote:

welch wrote:Here, your daily schadenfreude:

[spoiler][youtube]RtlYi1yLTVQ[/youtube][/spoiler]

Reminds me of crap we pulled on planes. (Pro Tip: before you crawl in the engine nacelle with the de-static tool, make sure your asshole coworkers didn't "accidently" not/disconnect the ground line. )

Shit - I'm laughing my ass off now. That was just fucking priceless!

Im just wondering if he did that on purpose, for the laughs, or is truly that stupid?

Trigger Warnings: Public Service or Fallacious Fad?

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... hen:01:32Z

Mykeru wrote: Now, if Greta wanted to be upfront about wanting to buy accessories and unnecessary shit, she should have put the remainder not needed to cover her medical bills/mortgage/whatever excuse she used into a communal pot so it could benefit the next needy medical case like Ed Brayton. Then she could also start an Amazon wish list so her sycophants could buy her shoes.

But that's the problem with a community topped by a bunch of selfish fucks: They don't help each other out. That's why there are peasants.

No article of clothing has a right to cost more than $200 unless it's designed to keep you alive, like a fucking space suit or something. I mean, I've dropped some coin on my mountain climbing gear, stuff that's mean to keep me alive when the storm comes in, but even then, no single article cost more than $200.

But the real outrage is that it was from donations, not earnings. Although at this point I don't think Greta recognizes a difference. Cash from her minions is all the same in her world.

So I have this for her:
[spoiler]Selfish CUNT![/spoiler]

On Rebecca Watson, Sylvia Browne & more: My appearance on Skeptically Yours
http://skepticink.com/incredulous/2013/ ... lly-yours/

Brain Box wrote:Trigger Warnings: Public Service or Fallacious Fad?

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/e ... hen:01:32Z

If SJWs only used the so-called trigger warnings on their own "safe spaces" most people wouldn't give a fuck. However, they decided to smear their "triggered" vomit all over other people private sites and trying to cram their crippled ideology down people throats. I'll say that more than a fad is just a bunch of good for nothings acting like control freaks. If you are triggered by stuff in the Web, get away from your computer and do something useful, like cleaning your house.

ReneeHendricks wrote:Oh man! This is an awesome bit on how to counter "check your privilege":

[youtube]Dc6SLxOPRrs[/youtube]

I remember thinking this during the Elevatorgate threads at Pharyngula. Why were people responding to "mansplaining" or "privilege" or similar arguments as if they were valid? First it is obviously an ad hom: an argument is being dismissed because the speaker belongs to a particular group, not because of any flaw in the original argument. But second, it reveals that the person who is making the accusation of "mansplaining" is also a *bigot*. Unfair discrimination or prejudice on the basis of sex is sexism. Sexism is just one kind of bigotry, and sexists are just one kind of bigot. They are bigots.

So when someone is being accused of "mansplaining" or "privilege" why don't they respond with, "That's an ad hom, and you're a bigot. Address my argument please or I will ignore you."? I think the reason they don't respond that way is because most people don't feel too privileged, they worked hard to be where they are in life (at least from their own view). Being accused of privilege is an opportunity to share that story and try to win people over. It doesn't work though, because it was a trick from the beginning, the bigot doesn't care. That's my theory anyway, and I'm assuming that it isn't just that people who did respond that way were immediately deleted before I could see them.

Sylvia Sybil wrote:Myself, I definitely think autism falls into the social model of disability, i.e. there's nothing inherent in autism that makes it a disability, it's just that (USA specific?) society is structured to accommodate allistics and does not provide accommodations for autistics. So while I will call myself disabled in context of asking for disability accommodations, I call myself neurodiverse the rest of the time.

As far as I'm concerned, A+ just jumped the shark with this one. How they can say stuff like this in light of videos like this one: ( is beyond me. Damn that evil society, requiring people to keep their teeth clean. Sensory processing issues most definitely are inherently disabling.

TheAmazingAtheist (TAA) has so far during this neo-anti-feminism drama kept his hat out of the ring (to my knowledge). But lordy-lord-lord was he ahead of his time back in 2010 when he made this:

[youtube]1paR4fFrXAo[/youtube]

Please, TJ, make some more?

Ape+lust wrote:

...I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen “Rebitchka Twatson” online in anti-FTB circles...

No he hasn't. That's a nice little tell. He's probably not looked too closely at what's going on and is getting fed his opinions from his favored side (*cough* Ophelia *cough).

I CAN tell him/her how many times I've seen “Rebitchka Twatson” online in anti-FTB circles.
Exactly ZERO.

Here's Google take on the matter (Note the suggestion, I guess Google is also controlled by the evil patriarchy):

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8494/searchkw.png

When people accuse me of privilege, I bring out all my "oppressed" cards. They usually act from the assumption than I'm a white male. Funnily enough, they cannot believe that a person with all my so-called oppressions have a dissimilar opinions...which go to show how open minded and progressive they are. Cause all us colored people think the same way...

Outwest wrote:

ReneeHendricks wrote:

welch wrote:Here, your daily schadenfreude:

[spoiler][youtube]RtlYi1yLTVQ[/youtube][/spoiler]

Reminds me of crap we pulled on planes. (Pro Tip: before you crawl in the engine nacelle with the de-static tool, make sure your asshole coworkers didn't "accidently" not/disconnect the ground line. )

Shit - I'm laughing my ass off now. That was just fucking priceless!

Im just wondering if he did that on purpose, for the laughs, or is truly that stupid?

That reminds me of the time I was building a power supply from an old television transformer and touched the exposed 240 volt lines. They told me I screamed, but I don't remember.

codelette wrote:When people accuse me of privilege, I bring out all my "oppressed" cards. They usually act from the assumption than I'm a white male. Funnily enough, they cannot believe that a person with all my so-called oppressions have a dissimilar opinions...which go to show how open minded and progressive they are. Cause all us colored people think the same way...

I wouldn't worry, you have jen mcreight to speak on your behalf.
I imagine that takes an enormous, underprivileged, weight off you shoulders.

I remember thinking this during the Elevatorgate threads at Pharyngula. Why were people responding to "mansplaining" or "privilege" or similar arguments as if they were valid? First it is obviously an ad hom: an argument is being dismissed because the speaker belongs to a particular group, not because of any flaw in the original argument. But second, it reveals that the person who is making the accusation of "mansplaining" is also a *bigot*. Unfair discrimination or prejudice on the basis of sex is sexism. Sexism is just one kind of bigotry, and sexists are just one kind of bigot. They are bigots.

So when someone is being accused of "mansplaining" or "privilege" why don't they respond with, "That's an ad hom, and you're a bigot. Address my argument please or I will ignore you."? I think the reason they don't respond that way is because most people don't feel too privileged, they worked hard to be where they are in life (at least from their own view). Being accused of privilege is an opportunity to share that story and try to win people over. It doesn't work though, because it was a trick from the beginning, the bigot doesn't care. That's my theory anyway, and I'm assuming that it isn't just that people who did respond that way were immediately deleted before I could see them.

This deserves re-posting. Accusations of "privilege" are and always have been a convenient silencing tactic, nothing more.

codelette wrote:When people accuse me of privilege, I bring out all my "oppressed" cards. They usually act from the assumption than I'm a white male. Funnily enough, they cannot believe that a person with all my so-called oppressions have a dissimilar opinions...which go to show how open minded and progressive they are. Cause all us colored people think the same way...

Unfortunately, I have found that this does not work. Using 'check your privilege' is another way of asking 'when did you stop beating your wife'. No matter what your answer, you are screwed. It puts one in a defensive position, having to explain why your views should even be listened to. It just gives them more fuel for the fire. Not to mention it is also a blatant derailing of a conversation.

Has anyone else pictured Grifter Christina get the "Bush at Iraqi press conference" treatment next time she steps up to a podium?
I'm imagining the look in her beady little eyes as a cloud of flying Fluevogs comes streaking towards her out of the audience.

People leap to Melody's defense when I make a remark about how much weight she gained, just to piss her off for being creepy, but no one gives a rat's ass if anyone makes a joke about Matt Dillahunty looking like a manatee stuffed with bean bag chairs.

OMFG sexism!

My wife and three kids were killed in a car accident. Wiped out by a distracted driver as quick as you can snap your fingers.

Then my boyfriend and his mother were killed in another car accident, again, when a driver was bending down to change radio stations.

A few weeks ago, my three dogs were killed when a driver fell asleep and drove through an intersection.

SO IT TRIGGERS ME WHEN THAT JACKOFF DILLAHUNT MAKES VIDEOS WHEN HE DRIVES!

In other news, my driver's license was suspended by fascist government assholes.

I'm contemplating setting up something for the atheist/skeptic community to donate to (stop laughing for a moment) that will go to either Smile Train or Operation Smile. There are very few organizations (outside of things that help my local community and those in dire need within my community) that I actively give money to and put the word out.

Just something I'm throwing around in my head due to ShoeGate.

Mykeru wrote:People leap to Melody's defense when I make a remark about how much weight she gained, just to piss her off for being creepy, but no one gives a rat's ass if anyone makes a joke about Matt Dillahunty looking like a manatee stuffed with bean bag chairs.

OMFG sexism!

Because when men talk to other men this way (which is all the fucking time), it's accepted as ribbing, all in good fun, or just "straight talk."

But, when men talk to women the exact same way, all of a sudden they become magical creatures with this elaborate hit point system. When you commented on Melody's weight, you literally took 20 hit points off of her. You monster!

Well, that's what they'd like you to believe, anyway. Truth is, people like Melody *gain* hit points when people are mean to her.

In the spirit of equality, a list of fatsos:
PZ Myers
Steph Zvan
Matt Dillahunty
Melody Hensley
Ed Brayton

Congrats, you all are obese!

DownThunder wrote:

Reap wrote:Hi I posted a new blog about Ed Brayton and company in case you want to read it.
http://reapstruth.blogspot.com/2013/01/ ... h-now.html

Theyre all a few years old. More than enough time to become a born-again feminist super hero.

It wasn't a few years ago Ed referred to Renee as a git. Some hero. I mention it in the blog. But that's just for for the people who read it...

I just came from the gym, 26 minutes late, in fact.

A couple years ago we had a woman complain about how "hostile" we guys were to each other, when we were just doing the guy ribbing thing.

I can see how, in the absence of that social dynamic, someone may possibly grow up to be thin-skinned and under the mistaken impression that criticism is harassment.

And, not coincidentally, grow a big fat ass.

Presuming Greta Gissafiva is like a normal person, and does not need special shoes to write in, I'm wondering why she should say that nice shoes are important for her work, considering the other side of her job mostly involves her standing behind a podium.

Also, I'm looking forward to a blog post from Ed waxing lyrical about a huge pile of pies he recently bought.

Checking out the reddit. I'm glad someone is posting links to the youtubes that we find on here because I often skip them so I can catch up on the thread and end up not getting back to them. Subsrcibed, and upvotes for all!

ReneeHendricks wrote:Just something I'm throwing around in my head due to ShoeGate.

You REALLY pissed them off this time :lol:

Stephanie, Ophelia and Greta have a post about it (funnily enough, none of the male bloggers has one, could it be that shoes are a girl thing?)
and the OPs and posts are, if possible, even angrier than usual.

I'm going to save this comment for the next time someone talks about how the anti-FTB side insults and harasses women, and the FTB side are all respectful and female-supportive :doh:

Ape+lust wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:I've been banned from posting to Reddit for a while, now. I mean, I can physically post there, but my links don't show up anywhere. I haven't been able to get anyone to specifically tell me why, but it started with a ban in r/politics for posting something someone didn't like, apparently. Looks like I'll have to create another account...

Banned from Reddit? I've known plenty who've been banned from subreddits, but you're the first I've heard of getting banned from the whole site.

Maybe they mistook you for this other badass, the White Authority of Cock:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/7tiYL.jpg[/spoiler]

There is some prick there goes by the name iesvs he flags atheist posts as spam. Reddit will block your domain if you are flagged as a spammer.Could be him cause the dude is a dick. He tried to pull that shit on me I just made a subdomain and posted links through that, fuck him. If anybody comes across him tell him you heard he likes to suck his mothers dick and mention my name. He hates me, a lot.

Altair wrote:

ReneeHendricks wrote:Just something I'm throwing around in my head due to ShoeGate.

You REALLY pissed them off this time :lol:

Stephanie, Ophelia and Greta have a post about it (funnily enough, none of the male bloggers has one, could it be that shoes are a girl thing?)
and the OPs and posts are, if possible, even angrier than usual.

I'm going to save this comment for the next time someone talks about how the anti-FTB side insults and harasses women, and the FTB side are all respectful and female-supportive :doh:

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This actually makes me laugh :D At no point have any of them pointed to where I've lied. They just like saying "liar, liar pants on fire!" :D

Mykeru wrote:I just came from the gym, 26 minutes late, in fact.

A couple years ago we had a woman complain about how "hostile" we guys were to each other, when we were just doing the guy ribbing thing.

I can see how, in the absence of that social dynamic, someone may possibly grow up to be thin-skinned and under the mistaken impression that criticism is harassment.

And, not coincidentally, grow a big fat ass.

I think that's an AngloWorld thing. In PuertoRicoLand, both males and females make comments about your body weight and we don't roll into fetal position about the comments. People here (specially females) get all worked up because someone told them the obvious.

John Brown wrote:

Mykeru wrote:People leap to Melody's defense when I make a remark about how much weight she gained, just to piss her off for being creepy, but no one gives a rat's ass if anyone makes a joke about Matt Dillahunty looking like a manatee stuffed with bean bag chairs.

OMFG sexism!

Because when men talk to other men this way (which is all the fucking time), it's accepted as ribbing, all in good fun, or just "straight talk."

But, when men talk to women the exact same way, all of a sudden they become magical creatures with this elaborate hit point system. When you commented on Melody's weight, you literally took 20 hit points off of her. You monster!

Well, that's what they'd like you to believe, anyway. Truth is, people like Melody *gain* hit points when people are mean to her.

Eh, nah. it depends on the context doesn't it? If two people are friends and do that, they do that. Mykeru is no friend of Matt's... so they just don't care about matt. Don't some of them not like him anyway?