If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Za-zen wrote:Hensley on twitter has blamed "mra infiltration" of the atheist movement for the push back she and the other ideologues have recieved. Seriously Hensley, MRA infiltration?! Are you a total whackjob? How many times do you have to be fucking told, the atheist movement is not the feminist movement. If that's your bag fuck off and work for a feminist movement. Atheists telling you we don't want your dogma, is not evidence of infiltration, it's evidence that we don't like fucking dogma.

They tried to go Borg on the atheist movement without being fully aware of what and who they were facing.

Despite many atheists and skeptics drinking their kool-aid, there are also many others who are used to fighting and debunking woo, lies and misinformation. They weren't used to attacking a community that would use facts, logic and critical thinking, and were definitely not used to being asked to support everything they say with evidence.

They picked a fight with the wrong community, and now they're left wondering what happened and why it didn't work out like their previous hijack attempts.

BTW, Setar displays so much social anxiety he would no doubt be dismissed as "creepy" by Twatson and her crew.

Regarding Setar's whiny "woe is me" post -

He starts off by listing the symptoms of social anxiety. How the fuck does that have anything to do with privilege? And then, of course, he finds a way to segue into how awesome he is with the phrase "my amazing intellectual abilities", while somehow still managing to guilt-trip everyone into feeling sorry for him. You're gifted and have social anxiety? Great. Why are you complaining on the internet instead of writing a book or proving a theorem?

Then of course he blames his family for having a bad therapist. Of course, this probably means that his therapist told him that there's nothing really wrong with him other than being an asshole. And like clockwork, this leads into "issues other than my anxiety that remain unknown". More problems, how convenient.

And to top it all off, his coworkers don't like his rockin' hairdo.

Scented Nectar wrote:It's mission creep. The feminists parasitize other movements, diverting the causes and using the other movement's resources.

See: Mykeru's Law. Correct me if I misquote, Reverend.
"As any progressive movement achieves traction the probability of it being co-opted by a bunch of women seeking to make it all about their vagina, approaches one".

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codelette wrote:BTW, what the fuck is a Setar? Sounds angry

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I had always wondered what Setar's claim to under-privilege was, seeing as he is white and male. Not sure if he's straight and/or cis-sexual, though (are those the same thing?).
Social anxiety does sound like a nasty thing to have, but the part about the long hair and the toxic masculinity are just stupid.

Cis-sexual is opposed to trans-sexual (who you feel yourself to be) while straight is opposed to gay (who you are attracted to). Though I'm sure there's some subtlety that I'm leaving out that a SJW would like to eviscerate me over.

jjbinx007 beat me to it.

LMU wrote:
Cis-sexual is opposed to trans-sexual (who you feel yourself to be) while straight is opposed to gay (who you are attracted to). Though I'm sure there's some subtlety that I'm leaving out that a SJW would like to eviscerate me over.

Thank you, using the opposite words was a very good way to explain the concepts.

Re: PZ's book. I wonder if he is going to try and get Dawkins to write a blurb for him?

Tony Parsehole wrote:[lubetube]nyjW36Ri45Q[/lubetube]
I haven't seen it yet.

I don't have time (actually, inclination) to watch that buffoon's videos.

Za-zen wrote:Hensley on twitter has blamed "mra infiltration" of the atheist movement for the push back she and the other ideologues have recieved. Seriously Hensley, MRA infiltration?! Are you a total whackjob?

This is what an MRA looks like:
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Gefan wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:It's mission creep. The feminists parasitize other movements, diverting the causes and using the other movement's resources.

See: Mykeru's Law. Correct me if I misquote, Reverend.
"As any progressive movement achieves traction the probability of it being co-opted by a bunch of women seeking to make it all about their vagina, approaches one".

Close:

"As any progressive movement grows and achieves success, the probability of it being co-opted by women who want to make it all about their vaginas approaches 1″

That's the greatest inconsistency: Thinking a woman is a life support system for a vagina is very very sexists, except when it's radical feminism.

jjbinx007 wrote:Embedded link: [youtube]dillahunty[/youtube]

Your wife is in the passenger seat you obese retard. Why not have her drive and concentrate on the road while you concentrate on the internet drama.

jjbinx007 wrote:[spoiler]Embedded link: [youtube]nyjW36Ri45Q[/youtube][/spoiler]

I took the time to watch it. Kinda wish I hadn't. These fucking A-plussers. They are ruining the atheism- movement so fundamentally.

Dillahunty's main argument is that Tf00t was dishonest showing PZ's 'let's redefine atheism' slide and Dillahunty's own 'Imma gonna ban everyone who likes people I don't like' FB post. And Dillahunty meant Tf00t was dishonest in critiquing these examples because they were later retracted. Oh, so Tf00t is dishonest because he called you on your bullshit and you later retracted it? So if you are correct in critiquing something, and what you critique is later rectified; you are supposedly a liar in Dillahunty's view. Goddamn, I hate these people so fucking much.

Metalogic42 wrote:

Za-zen wrote:Hensley on twitter has blamed "mra infiltration" of the atheist movement for the push back she and the other ideologues have recieved. Seriously Hensley, MRA infiltration?! Are you a total whackjob?

This is what an MRA looks like:
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I like the Blackhawk-style load-bearing harness with drop-leg tactical holster, but the hard case pouches seem impractical.

I bear the weight on my instructor's gun belt, which is slightly more flexible than a duty belt, with a velcro inner belt on my Tru-Spec 24/7 pants. Mine has on a tanto-bladed tactical knife with a Kydex sheath, a rail accessory holder with a .45 magazine and tactical light, a Molle compatible canteen cover with a canteen, cup and canteen stove with assorted Esbit tablets (traditional Trioxene tablets are poisonous and hard to handle) a American Tomahawk LaGana Tactical Tomahawk and a .45 Mil-Spec 1911A in a Serpa CQC holster.

Rather than spend New Years Day trying to figure out when it's okay to dox and tell someone to get off the rag, I finally finished the jigsaw puzzle-like task of fitting all my shit into my BFM bug-out bag. I should lay it all out and take a picture.

And I relate all that just to irritate the Velmas and Shaggys who think living strenuously means going on a quest with Sir Howard of Wolowitz.

[quote="Oneiros666" And Dillahunty meant Tf00t was dishonest in critiquing these examples because they were later retracted.[/quote]

I try to assume good faith in arguments. If I was discussing something with Dillahunty then I would assume he was telling me the truth. If what he said was not correct, then I would say he was wrong, or mistaken - I wouldn't assume he was automatically a liar. Liar is quite a strong word - if you're going to throw that word around you need to provide some evidence that the person's intention was to deceive.

Dillahunty is a fucking bellend. He just blocked me on Youtube* after making a video crying about Thunderf00t pointing out Matt's mass blocking of criticism. "But I unblocked everybody almost straight awaaaaaay!" Bawls the useless blob.
Fuck off Matt you cunt.

*For the record I never insulted him once and only raised valid points regarding Surly Amy and how she wants fake jewellery banned.

Hmmm fat fucker deleted my comment.

I have a tingly feeling dillahunty should have kept his mouth shut. That was one big video of fail. Remember dillys Fb post that he's on about? Well according to him thunder should have included the twitter blockgate aswel, you know the one were he declared himself "with his buddies" beccy and peezus and went on a blocking rampage, without even stopping to analyze what the fuck the whole argument was about.

It didn't matter to him, he was backing up his buddies. This is "facts dont matter" dillahunty we're talking about. This was the dillahunty whose response to thunder in thunder's comment section was to link him to a bullshit rant about "patriachy is ebil!" With the remark "if you don't get it after this i can't help you" (paraphrased) he uses that term "get it" quite regularly, must be a hang over from his fundie days, when you just had to "get it".

What else did thunder get wrong? Oh yeah the slide doesn't count because his betest buddy pz only used it once! So there tfoot. Checkmate.

Crybabyamy wasn't saying fake jewelery is as bad as ass grabing because Context! Rape is wrong murder is wrong, and fake jewelery is wrong. they don't have to all be the same wrongyness to be wrong, and banned. And why shouldn't we have rules stoping people wearing fake jewelery? Life has rules. Anybody spot the wrong in this?

cunt wrote:Hmmm fat fucker deleted my comment.

Mine too. Never answered my questions just deleted the comment so he didn't have to. I can't believe I used to respect that gonk.

From the comments on the Dillahunty video:

Thunderf00t is a simpleton, he has a tendency to reduce culture, politics and social issues to a simple dichotomy them applies an us v.s them mentality to which he is at the forefront of the "us". He suffers delusions of grandeur.

I think we know who started the Us vs Them mentality. Hint: it wasn't Us.

From Dillacunty's comment section:

Feminism is one of the ideas the A+ crowd supports. If you reject that, then you're basically saying that men are superior to women and you want to keep it that way, and yes, that makes you a misogynist.

These fucking loons. How do they have the sense to turn a computer on?

I watched Dillahunty's video for all of you. It doesn't respond to anything in tf00t's video even though the guy seems genuine but not only does he have the wrong end of the stick, he's holding the completely wrong fucking stick.

But I think we can all learn something critical from his video: sex parties have rules.

Mind. Fucking. Blown.

Tony Parsehole wrote:

cunt wrote:Hmmm fat fucker deleted my comment.

Mine too. Never answered my questions just deleted the comment so he didn't have to. I can't believe I used to respect that gonk.

I really hope he drives into a ditch while making one of these things. Apparently that's the only thing that'll get him to realise how fucking dumb it is.

Oneiros666 wrote:

jjbinx007 wrote:[spoiler]Embedded link: [youtube]nyjW36Ri45Q[/youtube][/spoiler]

I took the time to watch it. Kinda wish I hadn't. These fucking A-plussers. They are ruining the atheism- movement so fundamentally.

Dillahunty's main argument is that Tf00t was dishonest showing PZ's 'let's redefine atheism' slide and Dillahunty's own 'Imma gonna ban everyone who likes people I don't like' FB post. And Dillahunty meant Tf00t was dishonest in critiquing these examples because they were later retracted. Oh, so Tf00t is dishonest because he called you on your bullshit and you later retracted it? So if you are correct in critiquing something, and what you critique is later rectified; you are supposedly a liar in Dillahunty's view. Goddamn, I hate these people so fucking much.

In short: intent is magic.

Which something I pretty much agree with. And which most of Dolly's fellow 'boons don't.

I had to stop when Dolly started going on about sex parties though. Was thoroughly putting me off boiled eggs.

And FFS Dolly - do you have to do these things while you're driving? How you can mention 'rules of the road' with a straight face while making this vid is just...well, it's pure:
Fuck knows why you have to make these things in your car - but if you have to, couldn't you do them while you're parked?

jjbinx007 wrote:From the comments on the Dillahunty video:

Thunderf00t is a simpleton, he has a tendency to reduce culture, politics and social issues to a simple dichotomy them applies an us v.s them mentality to which he is at the forefront of the "us". He suffers delusions of grandeur.

I think we know who started the Us vs Them mentality. Hint: it wasn't Us.

Yeah, it was Them.

Via cunt (above) - needs to be reiterated:

Your wife is in the passenger seat you obese retard. Why not have her drive and concentrate on the road while you concentrate on the internet drama.

Surly Amy makes jewellery and sells it at conferences.
Surly Amy also wants "fake jewellery" banned at these same conferences.
Matt Dillahunty thinks this is a valid request.
Matt Dillahunty also claims to be a sceptic and a free thinker.

bhoytony wrote:

codelette wrote:BTW, what the fuck is a Setar? Sounds angry

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I have social anxiety as well. Working as a stripper for those two years didn't help either. But I try to give the people I meet the benefit of the doubt, and not shit all over them if they 'hurt' my feelings. More often than not I try to make people happy, instead of offending them.

Setar is a self-involved fuckwit, nothing more, nothing less.

Also, slaughtering 100 people is wrong - according to the law.

Mykeru wrote:

Gefan wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:It's mission creep. The feminists parasitize other movements, diverting the causes and using the other movement's resources.

See: Mykeru's Law. Correct me if I misquote, Reverend.
"As any progressive movement achieves traction the probability of it being co-opted by a bunch of women seeking to make it all about their vagina, approaches one".

Close:

"As any progressive movement grows and achieves success, the probability of it being co-opted by women who want to make it all about their vaginas approaches 1″

That's the greatest inconsistency: Thinking a woman is a life support system for a vagina is very very sexists, except when it's radical feminism.

To be fair it isn't just feminists. Progressive movements always are susceptible to being over run with extremists. I remember reading a story a few years ago(wish I could find it online)about a community activist who had a record for getting results. He started a soup kitchen in post Katrina New Orleans. It was run and staffed by volunteers and was quickly taken over by animal rights vegans. The vegans refused to "serve oppression" and stopped accepting donations of food that weren't vegan. They vilified the founder and kicked him out of the organization he started. The place didn't last long with out him. A couple of years later he was still trying to repair his reputation.

So, Matt Dillahunty who makes a video calling Tf00t a liar because he pointed out that Matt Dillahunty is a fan of blocking/banning everyone he doesn't agree with (or who supports someone he doesn't agree with) just blocked me because I wrote a comment where I disagreed with him and told him what I feel about A-plussers.

http://i.imgur.com/Gafa5.png

(The text in red is in Norwegian. It translates to 'You have been blocked by the owner of this video')

Also, yes, Dolly is a fucking cunt for making videos while driving. He is endangering lives, something which is quite a lot worse than not agreeing with feminism (although, you could never get Setar and the A-plussers to agree to that).

Does anyone else get the feeling that he is making those driving vids with his wife next to him so that he can show her how much of a good feminist pussy he has become?

I bet Thunderf00t is laughing his fucking arse off at Dillahunty's attempt at a rebuttal.

Altair wrote:

bhoytony wrote:

codelette wrote:BTW, what the fuck is a Setar? Sounds angry

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I had always wondered what Setar's claim to under-privilege was, seeing as he is white and male. Not sure if he's straight and/or cis-sexual, though (are those the same thing?).
Social anxiety does sound like a nasty thing to have, but the part about the long hair and the toxic masculinity are just stupid.

Gosh, those fuckers really enjoy their pity parties. Guess what, I was diagnosed about ten years ago with Panic Attack Disorder w/ Mild Agoraphobia and Social Anxiety. Didn't get a diagnose until after a decade of visits to the public hospital ER. I believed something was wrong with my heart. Everything started after we lost our house due to hurricane damage. Even if they diagnosed me with the anxiety thing back then, my family didn't have the resources to pay for a shrink. I just fucking kept going. I've never used my mental health shit to paint me as a victim of society. I feel no empathy nor pity for that motherfucker.

Cry me a river, bitch.

My question is why he didn't acknowledge her when she got in the car? Did he call ahead to tell her he was making a stupid ass video and not to talk to him when she got into the car? Does he do this so often she expects it?

The first thing you'd hear from my missus if I were doing that would be : "what the fuck are you doing?"

another lurker wrote: *snip setar bullshit*

I have social anxiety as well. Working as a stripper for those two years didn't help either. But I try to give the people I meet the benefit of the doubt, and not shit all over them if they 'hurt' my feelings. More often than not I try to make people happy, instead of offending them.

Setar is a self-involved fuckwit, nothing more, nothing less.

I agree with franc on this: start being careful with quotings. I don't want to see that fucking wallpost of bullshit anymore than nescessary (which is never)

Scented Nectar wrote:

Dilurk wrote:
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You just described Identity politics. Where a small minority manage to subvert a movement. It's not just feminists that do it either.

Way way back when I was a feminist, whenever there was a march to attend (women's day, take back the night, etc), various communist parties would show up, march with us, and try to hand us their pamphlets. I was like get that shit away from me, but others fell for it.

Then, there was the invasion of the Numb Yoyos, a culty branch of buddhism that recruited from among us. I lost a couple of friends to that one. They believed that success, love, and riches would be theirs if only they chanted for enough hours every day in a language they didn't even understand (Japanese). I call them the Numb Yoyos because their one-sentence-over-and-over chant sounded kind of like that phrase. I think their type of buddhism was called Nicherin Shoshu or something like that. I could google or wiki it, but I'm feeling lazy. ReGretavirus acting up. :)

I really despise mission creep. They take footholds every time someone is scared of not being PC enough and lets them in the door. I no longer think of FTB as an atheist blogging spot. It's almost all pure radfeminism. Any atheism is accidental these days.

There is nothing wrong with having allies, but I hate when a subgroup or even an unassociated group comes in and takes over a movement with their own agenda. If A+ had have called their movement "SJG+" no one would have batted an eye. They could very well then announced that additionally they were atheists and that would have been fine. Instead they decided they were going to subvert the meaning of "atheist" making life much harder for all atheists with their divisive tactics.

Fucking hell, I go off on a week long man-flu self-pity binge and look at the drama that unfolds. Excellent video from Thunderf00t, weak arsed rebuttal from the Dillacunty who does not answer a single one of Thunderf00t's criticisms. Still, maybe we should give him some kudos for at least watching the fucking thing?

FfTB and A+Theism truly are the gift that keeps on giving.

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:[spoiler]

another lurker wrote: *snip setar bullshit*

I have social anxiety as well. Working as a stripper for those two years didn't help either. But I try to give the people I meet the benefit of the doubt, and not shit all over them if they 'hurt' my feelings. More often than not I try to make people happy, instead of offending them.

Setar is a self-involved fuckwit, nothing more, nothing less.

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I agree with franc on this: start being careful with quotings. I don't want to see that fucking wallpost of bullshit anymore than nescessary (which is never)

Thanks to Lsuoma we have very helpful spoiler tags! That way people can leave the quotes for those who are curious, and everyone else doesn't have to scroll so far. I haven't checked but do we still have the three nested quotes limit?

Typical A+ comment on the Dillacunty video:

V0r4xiz 21 seconds ago

I don't get why Thunderchrist bothers in the first place. It's not like he'll ever score a girl. not even on a convention where he's actually something of a deal, haha. Joking aside. I don't agree with banning "looking hot" at a convention but if they wanna do so, fine. I'll ridicule it but it's their right to be that way. Secondly, Tfails tactics have never changed in ages. Still nit-picking and misrepresenting.

TF00t isn't hot enough to get a lady and women who look hot should be ridiculed........
Another epic win for feminism.

Oh. and Happy New Year everyone.

Dear Fat Ass Neckbeard,

If you kill yourself vblogging while driving, you're just an idiot.

http://goo.gl/NBuka

Kill someone else, you are, as we suspect, an egomaniacal scumbag.

sacha wrote:

another lurker wrote:The FTB commenters are so divorced from reailty.

I remember a post on OB's blog from back in August - a commenter was shitting all over us westerners for having the gall to refer to FGM as 'female genital mutilation.

See, we should have known, even though such information was not available to us, that use of the word 'mutilation' upsets indigenous African people, and that we should use the term 'cutting' instead.

Yeah, cuz you know, all those African villagers who read FTB and the Slymepit et al. will be so fucking offended at our choice of terminology!!

Srsly, wtf is wrong with these people???? And she was really really really angry and hostile about this!

Boggles the mind it does.

psychological distance from the horrific reality of a practice, is how otherwise rational people can commit atrocities, with FGM, add another layer to that, they have been convinced they are doing the right thing out of love for their daughters.

"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" -Voltaire

One cannot march into a village and shout accusations of mutilation and abuse if they would like to see an end to FGM.

PC police and SJW do not understand the nuance of this. The reason not to offend them about FGM is so they don't see you as attacking their culture and their love towards their family, and that is the only way to have a chance at having a calm, rational discussion that may lead to a few women seeing FGM very differently, and they will discuss that with others, and hopefully the people of that culture will decide for themselves to stop.
Empowerment is the only solution.

This does not mean FGM should be treated with respect when speaking about it to those that agree it is barbaric, and certainly not to those who have no idea what it entails.
That only perpetuates the view that the rumours are exaggerated, and it isn't that bad, which makes less people interested in stopping it.

Is there anything the PC police and SJWs do that actually helps instead of hinders?

I wanted to discuss this here with Skep Tickle quite a while ago when she mentioned foot binding and why it is no longer practiced. The psychology of why things like this are accepted to begin with, and the psychology of how to end the practice it is quite interesting.

You are correct and I agree with your viewpoint. I was only complaining about the fact that the person on OB's blog (she worked for the WHO) was seriously -hostile- about the fact that we used the term 'mutilation' when talking amongst ourselves on various blogs. Seeing as how we are not directly interacting with the people who practise FGM, I would suspect that it is acceptable to use the term 'FGM' amongst ourselves. If I was over in Africa trying to change things, well duh, I would work my damndest to use the right words and not offend people.

Regarding Matt Dillahunty, a couple points:

1) he seems to be quite the prima donna. I caught the start of a TAE show once, where he was yelling and screaming at the production crew, and bragging about how "I am a famous atheist, any show would love to have me, so don't be so incompetent."

and

2) either it was TAE or the non-prophets, I cannot remember, but I think it might have been Russell Glasser who said that it was entirely -acceptable- to mutilate baby boys. He sincerely felt that as long as you're a baby, your parents have the right to mutilate you. My jaw dropped. What utter bullshit. In case you haven't guessed, yeah, I am against male circumcision too.

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And lastly, sorry for making heads explode with my elevatorgate question. I got it all sorted a few pages back with Eucliwood. In case anyone missed, I explained that I was essentially trying to give RWatson the benefit of the doubt. To be charitable. And the subtext, from what I had read, is that the the Elevator-Guy was in fact some sort of creep. I imagined him standing over her, breathing heavily on her hair, and asking for coffee, in the sleaziest way possible. Now, under -those- circumstances, her reaction would seem perfectly reasonable.

Someone made the point that where RWatson went wrong was that in assuming every woman would react the same way. In assuming that all men are all creeps all the time, and that all women are all scared and cowering, all the time. As an example, I love the show 'Citizen Radio'. But even they, imo, go a bit too far with the whole 'rape culture' thing. The woman on the show was horribly offended when a New York cabdriver (or something) made a comment that he 'loved her'. And that this was just another example of rape culture rearing its ugly head.

The way women are treated in India = rape culture. Being harassed for personal info, being groped, having upskirt pics taken = example of rape culture. A guy cat-calling or saying 'you're hot' is not rape culture, imo.

Before anyone jumps on me for my thoughts about what and what doesn't constitute rape culture, please bear in mind that I try really hard to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I would like to learn from people, and to consider everyone's viewpoint, before making blanket statements. My views are -never- set in stone. I honestly just want to understand the world better!

Scented Nectar wrote: Way way back when I was a feminist, whenever there was a march to attend (women's day, take back the night, etc), various communist parties would show up, march with us, and try to hand us their pamphlets. I was like get that shit away from me, but others fell for it.

Then, there was the invasion of the Numb Yoyos, a culty branch of buddhism that recruited from among us. I lost a couple of friends to that one. They believed that success, love, and riches would be theirs if only they chanted for enough hours every day in a language they didn't even understand (Japanese). I call them the Numb Yoyos because their one-sentence-over-and-over chant sounded kind of like that phrase. I think their type of buddhism was called Nicherin Shoshu or something like that. I could google or wiki it, but I'm feeling lazy. ReGretavirus acting up. :)

I really despise mission creep. They take footholds every time someone is scared of not being PC enough and lets them in the door. I no longer think of FTB as an atheist blogging spot. It's almost all pure radfeminism. Any atheism is accidental these days.

Back in the Bush years, every time I participated in a protest I somehow always ended up next to the Free Mumia assholes.

Metalogic42 wrote:Regarding Setar's whiny "woe is me" post -

He starts off by listing the symptoms of social anxiety. How the fuck does that have anything to do with privilege? And then, of course, he finds a way to segue into how awesome he is with the phrase "my amazing intellectual abilities", while somehow still managing to guilt-trip everyone into feeling sorry for him. You're gifted and have social anxiety? Great. Why are you complaining on the internet instead of writing a book or proving a theorem?

Then of course he blames his family for having a bad therapist. Of course, this probably means that his therapist told him that there's nothing really wrong with him other than being an asshole. And like clockwork, this leads into "issues other than my anxiety that remain unknown". More problems, how convenient.

And to top it all off, his coworkers don't like his rockin' hairdo.

He's one of the poster vandalizers in Vancouver. Those ones who had boxcutters and tried to give JohntheOther a hard time when he was putting up posters for AVfM.

As for a psychiatrist, he's Canadian, and visits to a real psychiatrist are covered in our health care. He doesn't need his parent's help. And if he can't afford prescriptions, he probably qualifies for a drug card from welfare, even if he makes enough money that he can't receive any other assistance from them (like welfare money or disability money). What he won't be covered for is going to some hang-up-a-shingle, self-proclaimed 'therapist' that gives him a feminist rebirthing ceremony or other such quackery.

katamari Damassi wrote: To be fair

And that's where you lost me.

codelette wrote:Gosh, those fuckers really enjoy their pity parties. Guess what, I was diagnosed about ten years ago with Panic Attack Disorder w/ Mild Agoraphobia and Social Anxiety. Didn't get a diagnose until after a decade of visits to the public hospital ER. I believed something was wrong with my heart. Everything started after we lost our house due to hurricane damage. Even if they diagnosed me with the anxiety thing back then, my family didn't have the resources to pay for a shrink. I just fucking kept going. I've never used my mental health shit to paint me as a victim of society. I feel no empathy nor pity for that motherfucker.

Cry me a river, bitch.

That's because you are a normal person who has a normal worldview. Setar and the rest of the A+ live in a made-up world where a Negative-Privilege Coefficient puts them higher in the pecking order. So they cling to anything that lowers their privilege, even if that means being strangely happy about having Social Anxiety.
And he has to milk his anxiety for everything it's worth, since he's not black, female or trans, which would put him way up there at the top of the A+ shit-riarcky with almost no effort.

Ugh. Dillahunty talking about sex parties and their rules. As someone who has been part of the "lifestyle", I really don't want to think of that man galumphing around a sex party.

LMU wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:[spoiler]

another lurker wrote: *snip setar bullshit*

I have social anxiety as well. Working as a stripper for those two years didn't help either. But I try to give the people I meet the benefit of the doubt, and not shit all over them if they 'hurt' my feelings. More often than not I try to make people happy, instead of offending them.

Setar is a self-involved fuckwit, nothing more, nothing less.

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I agree with franc on this: start being careful with quotings. I don't want to see that fucking wallpost of bullshit anymore than nescessary (which is never)

Thanks to Lsuoma we have very helpful spoiler tags! That way people can leave the quotes for those who are curious, and everyone else doesn't have to scroll so far. I haven't checked but do we still have the three nested quotes limit?

I see the spoiler tag now. Thanks for the tip, I will use it in the future!

More from the lovely Setar, in response to someone noting that some rape accusations are false:

"Bringing this up in this context is a false equivalence and rape apologism"

Altair wrote:

codelette wrote:Gosh, those fuckers really enjoy their pity parties. Guess what, I was diagnosed about ten years ago with Panic Attack Disorder w/ Mild Agoraphobia and Social Anxiety. Didn't get a diagnose until after a decade of visits to the public hospital ER. I believed something was wrong with my heart. Everything started after we lost our house due to hurricane damage. Even if they diagnosed me with the anxiety thing back then, my family didn't have the resources to pay for a shrink. I just fucking kept going. I've never used my mental health shit to paint me as a victim of society. I feel no empathy nor pity for that motherfucker.

Cry me a river, bitch.

That's because you are a normal person who has a normal worldview. Setar and the rest of the A+ live in a made-up world where a Negative-Privilege Coefficient puts them higher in the pecking order. So they cling to anything that lowers their privilege, even if that means being strangely happy about having Social Anxiety.
And he has to milk his anxiety for everything it's worth, since he's not black, female or trans, which would put him way up there at the top of the A+ shit-riarcky with almost no effort.

Funny, he didn't display much social anxiety when he was waving around a box cutter talking horseshit and interrupting people.

rocko2466 wrote:Is anyone else worried that Watson is damaging her hair by colouring it all the time? As a kid, I got told you do it too much it starts falling out.

She's just trying to hide the fact that her hair is transitioning to snakes.

Hair is always dead. It's just dead carotene. There's nothing you can do to it that can affect the hair follicle unless you burn it off with a laser or acid.

another lurker wrote:
2) either it was TAE or the non-prophets, I cannot remember, but I think it might have been Russell Glasser who said that it was entirely -acceptable- to mutilate baby boys. He sincerely felt that as long as you're a baby, your parents have the right to mutilate you. My jaw dropped. What utter bullshit. In case you haven't guessed, yeah, I am against male circumcision too.

It was Russell who was defending male circumcision on the grounds of it doesn't hurt and it's only a bit of useless skin.
To be fair to Matt he tore into Russell for that.

Git wrote:More from the lovely Setar, in response to someone noting that some rape accusations are false:

"Bringing this up in this context is a false equivalence and rape apologism"

That'll make Timbledoo a "rape apologist", right?

codelette wrote:

Altair wrote:

bhoytony wrote:

codelette wrote:BTW, what the fuck is a Setar? Sounds angry

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I had always wondered what Setar's claim to under-privilege was, seeing as he is white and male. Not sure if he's straight and/or cis-sexual, though (are those the same thing?).
Social anxiety does sound like a nasty thing to have, but the part about the long hair and the toxic masculinity are just stupid.

Gosh, those fuckers really enjoy their pity parties. Guess what, I was diagnosed about ten years ago with Panic Attack Disorder w/ Mild Agoraphobia and Social Anxiety. Didn't get a diagnose until after a decade of visits to the public hospital ER. I believed something was wrong with my heart. Everything started after we lost our house due to hurricane damage. Even if they diagnosed me with the anxiety thing back then, my family didn't have the resources to pay for a shrink. I just fucking kept going. I've never used my mental health shit to paint me as a victim of society. I feel no empathy nor pity for that motherfucker.

Cry me a river, bitch.

He (zxie, or some dumb shit?) just doesn't want to admit that he's not a special and unique snowflake, or that almost everyone has problems that they have to deal with too.

These dumb pronouns remind me of this:

Mykeru, is that the pictorial memory of your vehicular encounter, or some other poor bastard's? The paint lines on the ground suggest a shitty ending...

another lurker wrote:Before anyone jumps on me for my thoughts about what and what doesn't constitute rape culture, please bear in mind that I try really hard to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I would like to learn from people, and to consider everyone's viewpoint, before making blanket statements. My views are -never- set in stone. I honestly just want to understand the world better!

This isn't FartyThoughBlogs - all questions are welcomed. We don't have a party-line on anything. We do have statutory hat-ware though.

Mykeru wrote:

Gefan wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:It's mission creep. The feminists parasitize other movements, diverting the causes and using the other movement's resources.

See: Mykeru's Law. Correct me if I misquote, Reverend.
"As any progressive movement achieves traction the probability of it being co-opted by a bunch of women seeking to make it all about their vagina, approaches one".

Close:

"As any progressive movement grows and achieves success, the probability of it being co-opted by women who want to make it all about their vaginas approaches 1″

That's the greatest inconsistency: Thinking a woman is a life support system for a vagina is very very sexists, except when it's radical feminism.

Damned if it's all about vagina, and damned if it's all NOT about vagina.

I can't look at your avatar without being reminded of BugEyed Earl. That's not a bad thing, since I'm nuts about that comic. And there's new ones now, even though the author said he was quitting a few years ago. He must have started them up again.

http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/meatlocker/index.html

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codelette wrote:

Git wrote:More from the lovely Setar, in response to someone noting that some rape accusations are false:

"Bringing this up in this context is a false equivalence and rape apologism"

That'll make Timbledoo a "rape apologist", right?

Given his ability to sniff out even the tiniest perceived difference from his lunatic-left orthodoxy, and then furiously pounce upon and dry-hump the subject, I'm wondering if he's actually a red Setar.

Scented Nectar wrote:

Metalogic42 wrote:Regarding Setar's whiny "woe is me" post -

He starts off by listing the symptoms of social anxiety. How the fuck does that have anything to do with privilege? And then, of course, he finds a way to segue into how awesome he is with the phrase "my amazing intellectual abilities", while somehow still managing to guilt-trip everyone into feeling sorry for him. You're gifted and have social anxiety? Great. Why are you complaining on the internet instead of writing a book or proving a theorem?

Then of course he blames his family for having a bad therapist. Of course, this probably means that his therapist told him that there's nothing really wrong with him other than being an asshole. And like clockwork, this leads into "issues other than my anxiety that remain unknown". More problems, how convenient.

And to top it all off, his coworkers don't like his rockin' hairdo.

He's one of the poster vandalizers in Vancouver. Those ones who had boxcutters and tried to give JohntheOther a hard time when he was putting up posters for AVfM.

As for a psychiatrist, he's Canadian, and visits to a real psychiatrist are covered in our health care. He doesn't need his parent's help. And if he can't afford prescriptions, he probably qualifies for a drug card from welfare, even if he makes enough money that he can't receive any other assistance from them (like welfare money or disability money). What he won't be covered for is going to some hang-up-a-shingle, self-proclaimed 'therapist' that gives him a feminist rebirthing ceremony or other such quackery.

Sounds like he's flat out lying then. Are there no depths to which fie (fi fo fum) won't sink?

Git wrote:
This isn't FartyThoughBlogs - all questions are welcomed. We don't have a party-line on anything. We do have statutory hat-ware though.

You are just a MRA plus-privilege binary chauvinist saying that in this equality-plus rationale- context!!!!

=P