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1. "Who The Fuck Is" Ed "Git" BraytonReap wrote:Ok I need everyone to list your TOP 5 jerk-face, moron, fuck-wad,A+ idiots or FTB assholes for my end of the year list. No need to give reasons why and if you think that more than 1 can fit in as number 1, thats ok. I'm not sure the best way to tally it. List it here unless it gets messy I guess? Or if you cant risk posting it here then hit me up on FB (Reap Paden) Polls close at 11:59pm pst Jan 1
Yeah i tweeted her asking if that meant she wasn't an atheist anymore. Lol, it hurts, it hurts so bad.
Just realised. That applies to the millionaire earner as well. They don't get $720,000 per year to live on. It's $735,0000. Phew!Ape+lust wrote:$15,000 exemption.Tkmlac wrote:28% of 16,000 is over 4,000. I don't know how you got 280.
Oh, I'm sure she still identifies as a liberal atheist, but it's her type of liberal and her type of atheist. You know, the correct kind.Za-zen wrote: Yeah i tweeted her asking if that meant she wasn't an atheist anymore. Lol, it hurts, it hurts so bad.
She's not entirely stable, though she belongs in one.
Oooooh. Okay, that makes sense. "Make 15000? no tax! Make 16000? Taxed for the whole thing!" haha. I'm dense.cunt wrote:Just realised. That applies to the millionaire earner as well. They don't get $720,000 per year to live on. It's $735,0000. Phew!Ape+lust wrote:$15,000 exemption.Tkmlac wrote:28% of 16,000 is over 4,000. I don't know how you got 280.
Yeah i don't get the reference.
Yes!! The New Statesman article in August announced Atheism+ as "a reaction against the 'New Atheism' of Richard Dawkins."That would explain a lot. When I re-engaged with the community in an attempt to figure out what the hell was going on, I recall getting the very distinct impression that the FtB etc. bunch really, really believed their own hype that they were a big enough presence to actually take down the likes of Dawkins - with the unstated but clearly implied goal that they would fill the resulting vacuum.
I don’t see that Shermer’s original comment about Ophelia being on some sort of a witchhunt against him is at all unreasonable – particularly given her scouring through his articles in Scientific American to find damning evidence of his nefarious sexism.katamari Damassi wrote:Ed does have a point here. I don't think anyone said that Shermer should be drummed out of the community and made forever a pariah, ergo the witch hunting allegations are silly.Steersman wrote: However, I can’t help but notice – “sore thumb†caliber – that Brayton still seems to be unclear on a concept or two which sort of belies his disputing that he hasn’t actually “started a cultâ€:
[spoiler][/spoiler]The thing is Ed, you haven’t actually proven that Shermer’s comments qualify as sexism. They may appear to be that way to you, but to insist that everyone else has to accept that interpretation – particularly when there is a notable dearth of evidence – tends to qualify as peddling dogma – sort of a salient attribute of cults. Q.E.D.While we’re at it, can we also stop with the constant and moronic references to witch burnings and inquisitions? Michael Shermer is not a poor persecuted soul being chased by villagers with torches and pitchforks, he’s a guy who said something very sexist and stupid and is being criticized for it. He had an opportunity to say, “Yeah, that was really dumb and sexist. I’d like to apologize for that and work with others to see if we can come up with a solution to make secular communities more inclusive and welcoming to women.†He chose instead to double down on the problem and make it considerably worse.
Listen to the Houyhnhnm.katamari Damassi wrote:She's not entirely stable, though she belongs in one.
When asked if she was a still an atheist, did she say "NAAAAAY!"?
It's quite blatantly unfair. I mean you'd really have to be a complete fuckwit to think otherwise.Tkmlac wrote:My issue with a flat tax is that the cost of living and the burden that food and housing puts on lower incomes is higher than those with more income. Some think a flat tax is fair because everyone is paying the same percentage but the gas bill, food bill and housing is going to be a lot higher percentage of income for the poor than for the rich.
It would be great to have screenshots of that!lurker4now wrote: I distinctly remember seeing two conversations around the same time: One might have been on Twitter, it was a bit of giggling over what hoops they'd make Dawkins jump through in order to join, and how much fun that would be. The other was on FTB, about Atheism+'s proposed 'Official Safe Space' designation for conventions which would not only require anti-harrassment policies, gender and ethnic diversity, etc., but also speakers like Rebecca Watson and PZ Myers.
$724,200 actually.cunt wrote:Just realised. That applies to the millionaire earner as well. They don't get $720,000 per year to live on. It's $735,0000. Phew!Ape+lust wrote:$15,000 exemption.Tkmlac wrote:28% of 16,000 is over 4,000. I don't know how you got 280.
I thought of that about a second after I posted. Knew some fucker would pick it up.mikelf unplugged wrote:$724,200 actually.cunt wrote:Just realised. That applies to the millionaire earner as well. They don't get $720,000 per year to live on. It's $735,0000. Phew!Ape+lust wrote:$15,000 exemption.Tkmlac wrote:28% of 16,000 is over 4,000. I don't know how you got 280.
/pedant
That's it. I'm going to get all boozed up tonight, but after the partying is done, I'm going to start pitching talks at cons and shit. Fuck, I can't be worse than Twatson, right? I'll even supply my own booze. Life's too short to drink cheap vodka anyway.Mykeru wrote:And it's the year for starting that. We've done our due diligence trying to accommodate the Potemkin Skeptics, trying to figure out what it is they want and how we can make their boo-boos better. This year is going to be, I think, total push-back.welch wrote:
Another point I'd like to make, and note: ONLY DO THIS IF YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE TOPIC. (I *completely* get off the bus if you're talking about trolling a conference.) If you see a conference calling for speakers, AND you think you have a decent topic to talk about and might do a good job, submit. There's no better way to be able to alleviate the influence the dipshits have than creating your own. Again, don't do this just to be a tit. But if you have something topic appropriate to talk about, submit a session. If you're accepted, give a talk on your topic, do a good Q&A, and if you feel like it, submit again.
Demonstrate the difference between idiots like benson et al and good speakers by being one.
I would like to see more topics in skepticism, but considering that a lot of the FTB/SCK loons would give talks on how to blog and use social media, for fuck's sake, so the bar isn't all that high. Hell, if Rebecca Watson can give keynote speeches on how people were mean to her on the internet, then I doubt there is a bar. Yes, I do realize that anyone who isn't one of the approved incestuous cool kids will be helf to a higher standard in keeping with P.Z. Meyers-level rampant hypocrisy, but might as well start poking away.
Remember that analysis done a while back comparing Atheism Plus to The SlymePit that noted posters here tend to have disproportionate influence? Time to start cashing that shit in. We have a number of "famous on the internet" YouTubers here. In fact, I would recommend people link to The SlymePit on their video lowbars because, unlike the oh-so-important and talent-less SWJs, if anyone wants to interact with their favorite YouTuber, this is the place to do it. One of the remarkable things is the disparity between the high profile of people like Woolly Bumblebee and Thunderfoot and their lack of self-importance.
Oh, on my own front I have one that is now moving forward. I seem to have gone over the tipping point of using new software from "This sucks, I don't know how to do X like in the old program" to "Oh, this is actually better than the old program".
I was talking with Ikonographer on Skype and we noticed that Thunderf00t seems to have paid attention to some of the work other people have been doing and incorporated that into his video, notably the P.Z. Meyers "pick a card and fuck me" clip and the whole Melody Hensley incident. Which is great if true, as he presented a nice, concise, punch-in-the-face version. We seem to work on an open license with each other. That is, we've got no Amy Roth's whining about appropriation. There's no ownership here. We should be building on each others work. I mean, if someone found any of the stuff I've done useful, run with it, let's build on what each other are doing.
Most important, in the long term, is when we can transition from being the opposition to a bunch of idiots to just doing an end run around them, show that they aren't the faces of the atheist and skeptical movement, rather they are a perversion of it. To do that, as Welch says, we have to offer something other than opposition.
Sorry my sarcasm didn't come through as well as I hoped. My point in paraphrasing Ed about making TF00t "forever a pariah" was that it takes a lot of chutzpah for him to claim that allegations of witch hunts are just the result of silly paranoia.Steersman wrote: I don’t see that Shermer’s original comment about Ophelia being on some sort of a witchhunt against him is at all unreasonable – particularly given her scouring through his articles in Scientific American to find damning evidence of his nefarious sexism.
The problem seems to be – as was discussed in some detail here (I think) and elsewhere – that many seem to have some difficulties with analogies – that drawing a parallel between two scenarios means that both have a complete one-to-one correspondence.
For instance, witch-hunt has a pefectly reasonable and applicable definition – an investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views – that doesn’t entail any implications of thumb-screws and burning people at the stake – except figuratively. And likewise with Ophelia Benson’s use of a parallel between TAM and Nazi Germany: I certainly didn’t take that to mean that she was implying that TAM was engaging in genocide. And similarly with Paula Kirby’s use of feminazi and grammar-nazi – as she suggested about the latter, that shouldn’t lead most sane people to think that they had plans to invade Scotland for butchering the Queen’s English. A distinction that is apparently lost on many people including Benson.
But, considering the banning by PZ and others simply for presenting arguments contrary to the conventional wisdom or simply for being from the “wrong†side of the tracks, tends to give further credibilty to the charge of witch-burnings and inquisitions which are looking uncomfortably close if not precursors to the real thing.
Bingo.... Its just unfortunate that meat space con organisers are suckers for internet celebrityTkmlac wrote:It is a witch hunt, otherwise they'd be blogging and smearing the people that actually are saying dipshit things to them or threatening them. Instead, they go after big names so they can try and supplant them with their own internet fame. It's stupid.
I envy the real activists in the real world who don't spend a lot of time on the internet who look at me and say, "PZ who?" I always say "nevermind," because I don't want to spoil it for them.
Which ties in nicely with my "If I were to walk outside and talk to 200-300 people and ask them if they knew who Ophelia Benson is, I'd get 'Ophelia Who?' every time" bit :DTkmlac wrote:It is a witch hunt, otherwise they'd be blogging and smearing the people that actually are saying dipshit things to them or threatening them. Instead, they go after big names so they can try and supplant them with their own internet fame. It's stupid.
I envy the real activists in the real world who don't spend a lot of time on the internet who look at me and say, "PZ who?" I always say "nevermind," because I don't want to spoil it for them.
It honestly amazes me. You want to pay 1/3 of your shitty salary to the government and make your wife take a second job or you think that guy with 5 italian sports cars in his garage could possibly give one up.Za-zen wrote:A flat tax rate is sold by the rich to poor fuckwits who are too stupid to understand how things work. Think your average working guy in the states who buys and votes for the republican party.
Sorry – as several here have pointed out, I tend to be sarcasm/pop-culture challenged (which has its pluses, at least the latter) …. ;-)katamari Damassi wrote:Sorry my sarcasm didn't come through as well as I hoped. My point in paraphrasing Ed about making TF00t "forever a pariah" was that it takes a lot of chutzpah for him to claim that allegations of witch hunts are just the result of silly paranoia.Steersman wrote: I don’t see that Shermer’s original comment about Ophelia being on some sort of a witchhunt against him is at all unreasonable – particularly given her scouring through his articles in Scientific American to find damning evidence of his nefarious sexism.
[spoiler]The problem seems to be – as was discussed in some detail here (I think) and elsewhere – that many seem to have some difficulties with analogies – that drawing a parallel between two scenarios means that both have a complete one-to-one correspondence.
For instance, witch-hunt has a pefectly reasonable and applicable definition – an investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views – that doesn’t entail any implications of thumb-screws and burning people at the stake – except figuratively. And likewise with Ophelia Benson’s use of a parallel between TAM and Nazi Germany: I certainly didn’t take that to mean that she was implying that TAM was engaging in genocide. And similarly with Paula Kirby’s use of feminazi and grammar-nazi – as she suggested about the latter, that shouldn’t lead most sane people to think that they had plans to invade Scotland for butchering the Queen’s English. A distinction that is apparently lost on many people including Benson.[/spoiler]But, considering the banning by PZ and others simply for presenting arguments contrary to the conventional wisdom or simply for being from the “wrong†side of the tracks, tends to give further credibilty to the charge of witch-burnings and inquisitions which are looking uncomfortably close if not precursors to the real thing.
Ah....good 'ol rape fantasies. Apparently they're pretty common [A Voice for Men, who I receive my marching orders from, did a podcast on it a little while ago. They cover several interesting dilemmas..]. I knew a girl several years back that felt comfortable enough to tell me about hers. Apparently, she had wet dreams that featured her being gang raped on a regular enough basis. I was young so I didn't think to follow up on it and ask her if it was something she'd like to try...AndrewV69 wrote:I am tempted to go over there myself and deposit some of my thoughts on the subject, but I suspect that several aneurisms would result.KacyRay wrote:@skep tickle
Again... thanks for confirming that I'm not insane.
I guess it's true... in an insane world, a sane man would appear insane.
In any event, many/most of you are probably aware that the trope of "rape culture" appears to have started to become popular in certain circles back in the '70s. For example you can reference Susan Brownmiller's 1975 book Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape. ISBN-10: 0449908208 ISBN-13: 978-0449908204
I recommend that you read the book if you have not already done so (one of the things I got out of it was that Brownmiller was obsessed with her rape fantasies BTW).
cunt, do you have some sort of problem with 5-car guys giving up some dough, or was this posted in agreement to Za zen? If so, you can have a thumbs up.cunt wrote:It honestly amazes me. You want to pay 1/3 of your shitty salary to the government and make your wife take a second job or you think that guy with 5 italian sports cars in his garage could possibly give one up.Za-zen wrote:A flat tax rate is sold by the rich to poor fuckwits who are too stupid to understand how things work. Think your average working guy in the states who buys and votes for the republican party.
We'll... hurr... da american dream! *loses house*
I don't think Natalie Reed is too enamoured of A+ either, so that makes four gender outlaws that I know of that dislike A+... Which is that feminism, the radical feminists are poisoning atheism. Most notably, the atheism plus fiasco.
And i mean, just listen to some of those stupid comments from Rebecca, where she just out right sounds like a fucking cultist. “Oh, i didn’t use to notice the misogyny and harassment going on around me, and i know a lot of women say that it doesn’t happen, but it does. Boohooâ€
The toilets at CFI-DC are on the fritz.
You forgot the blond baboon in the Thunderfoot video.Oneiros666 wrote:This may have been commented on earlier, but fuck it, I am drinking whisky and as such I become lazy:
What is the deal with these radical feminists all wearing these god-awful glasses? I mean, it's like they go out of their way in order to look as bitchy as possible..oh right.
Hensley:
http://i.imgur.com/aLG2D.png
Wiley:
http://i.imgur.com/DfY6M.png
Watson:
http://i.imgur.com/hHONw.png
La Pièce de résistance, Christina:
http://i.imgur.com/ptAzM.png
Gotta disagree with you on your choice of douchebag Eberhard. He was unreadable at FTB, and over at Patheos he joined in the FTB attack on Justin Vacula. Also his idea of activism is to play retro video games with Thimbledick.
You know, I never once thought they could be accommodated. I can't stand the appeasement analogy (or the Churchill cult that worships an alcoholic who, even when sober, needed to kept as far away as possible from all forms of military planning) but sometimes you're stuck with it.Mykeru wrote:And it's the year for starting that. We've done our due diligence trying to accommodate the Potemkin Skeptics, trying to figure out what it is they want and how we can make their boo-boos better. This year is going to be, I think, total push-back.welch wrote:
Another point I'd like to make, and note: ONLY DO THIS IF YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE TOPIC. (I *completely* get off the bus if you're talking about trolling a conference.) If you see a conference calling for speakers, AND you think you have a decent topic to talk about and might do a good job, submit. There's no better way to be able to alleviate the influence the dipshits have than creating your own. Again, don't do this just to be a tit. But if you have something topic appropriate to talk about, submit a session. If you're accepted, give a talk on your topic, do a good Q&A, and if you feel like it, submit again.
Demonstrate the difference between idiots like benson et al and good speakers by being one.
I would like to see more topics in skepticism, but considering that a lot of the FTB/SCK loons would give talks on how to blog and use social media, for fuck's sake, so the bar isn't all that high. Hell, if Rebecca Watson can give keynote speeches on how people were mean to her on the internet, then I doubt there is a bar. Yes, I do realize that anyone who isn't one of the approved incestuous cool kids will be helf to a higher standard in keeping with P.Z. Meyers-level rampant hypocrisy, but might as well start poking away.
Remember that analysis done a while back comparing Atheism Plus to The SlymePit that noted posters here tend to have disproportionate influence? Time to start cashing that shit in. We have a number of "famous on the internet" YouTubers here. In fact, I would recommend people link to The SlymePit on their video lowbars because, unlike the oh-so-important and talent-less SWJs, if anyone wants to interact with their favorite YouTuber, this is the place to do it. One of the remarkable things is the disparity between the high profile of people like Woolly Bumblebee and Thunderfoot and their lack of self-importance.
Oh, on my own front I have one that is now moving forward. I seem to have gone over the tipping point of using new software from "This sucks, I don't know how to do X like in the old program" to "Oh, this is actually better than the old program".
I was talking with Ikonographer on Skype and we noticed that Thunderf00t seems to have paid attention to some of the work other people have been doing and incorporated that into his video, notably the P.Z. Meyers "pick a card and fuck me" clip and the whole Melody Hensley incident. Which is great if true, as he presented a nice, concise, punch-in-the-face version. We seem to work on an open license with each other. That is, we've got no Amy Roth's whining about appropriation. There's no ownership here. We should be building on each others work. I mean, if someone found any of the stuff I've done useful, run with it, let's build on what each other are doing.
Most important, in the long term, is when we can transition from being the opposition to a bunch of idiots to just doing an end run around them, show that they aren't the faces of the atheist and skeptical movement, rather they are a perversion of it. To do that, as Welch says, we have to offer something other than opposition.
I cant see anyone having a problem with that
Gefan wrote:
You forgot the blond baboon in the Thunderfoot video.
On a completely gratuitous note, I think someone once mentioned that Greta Christina is a former sex worker. Based on the above photo, presumably that means she used to mop up the beat-off booths in a smut shop.
What's pz's famous patronising cut, demonstrating he doesn't give a fuck about you or what you have to say (adopted by brayton). Oh yeah; Buh bye!Gumby wrote:Well, looks like what's been obvious to us all along is now official:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b1b79e.jpg
"Leave me alone!!!"
FAIL
She's moved on, and will not devote herself to her new love, dressage! Ever since she saw it in this summer's Olympic games she's become obsessed with the idea of wearing fancy clothes and dancing for gold medals. Now she just needs to find a rider to work with.Gumby wrote:Well, looks like what's been obvious to us all along is now official:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b1b79e.jpg
"Leave me alone!!!"
FAIL
Maybe she's going in for Equine Feminism?katamari Damassi wrote:She's moved on, and will not devote herself to her new love, dressage! Ever since she saw it in this summer's Olympic games she's become obsessed with the idea of wearing fancy clothes and dancing for gold medals. Now she just needs to find a rider to work with.Gumby wrote:Well, looks like what's been obvious to us all along is now official:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b1b79e.jpg
"Leave me alone!!!"
FAIL
I know.Gumby wrote:Gawd, Lois Griffin is hot... lol
I love how she admits she hasn't paid any attention to her Big Idea since she thought it up. Jen McCreight is an insult even to armchair activists.Za-zen wrote:What's pz's famous patronising cut, demonstrating he doesn't give a fuck about you or what you have to say (adopted by brayton). Oh yeah; Buh bye!Gumby wrote:Well, looks like what's been obvious to us all along is now official:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... b1b79e.jpg
"Leave me alone!!!"
FAIL
Well, I got mine to honor Al Stefanelli's arrival here. Mykeru proceeded to steal my hat, clone it, and hand them out freely. Fucking thief. Anyway, he'll be happy to hook you up.Oneiros666 wrote:I know.Gumby wrote:Gawd, Lois Griffin is hot... lol
Now, how do I go about in acquiring one of those neat hats?
I was gifted mine as an insult and badge of initiation. I wear it proudly with shame.Gumby wrote: Well, I got mine to honor Al Stefanelli's arrival here. Mykeru proceeded to steal my hat, clone it, and hand them out freely. Fucking thief. Anyway, he'll be happy to hook you up.
And you wear your shame well. I just wish Mykeru would pay me some royalties.AchronTimeless wrote:I was gifted mine as an insult and badge of initiation. I wear it proudly with shame.Gumby wrote: Well, I got mine to honor Al Stefanelli's arrival here. Mykeru proceeded to steal my hat, clone it, and hand them out freely. Fucking thief. Anyway, he'll be happy to hook you up.
