Periodic Table of Swearing

[papillon]

http://img.youtube.com/vi/2W33p11MHCw/0.jpg

I'm thinking a slightly bloated, pre-op Mona Lisa:

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... ef775a.jpg

Uncanny.

[Scented Nectar]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

If both people are drunk, have they raped each other?

Feminists are extra stupid pushing the idea that drinking means you can't understand consent. You know why? Because then ACTUAL rapists will have that excuse too. They were too drunk to understand consent, and that misunderstanding made them think the victim was consenting. Therefore, they can't be faulted for the rape because they were drunk when they did it (no matter whether or not the victim was also drunk). Are the feminists going to accept that sort of consequence of what they're pushing? They are actually rape-enabling, even though what they're really trying to do, is expand the range of sexual situations to consider as rape.

[Guest]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

Ah, now I understand why these people made the Elevator Incident into such a huge problem.

Consider: it was 4am, on the way out from a bar at a conference, and this is Rebecca Watson we're talking about. Drunkenness may be considered a given. Then suppose she'd said yes, and gone to this man's room for hot coffee Rockstar style? Why, then it clearly would have been rape. Therefore the proposition - having rape as its goal - was attempted rape.

The only solution here is that we ban alcohol at all future conferences, to allow consent to be possible. Write that into the policies, organisers, or else you hate all women.

[acathode]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

Happen to have a link or screenshot or something?
Sorry for being an annoying cunt, but this is the sort of stupid shit I want to read and confirm for myself instead of just taking second hand re-tellings as the truth. I'd like to think it's one of those things that separate real skeptics from the "FTB skeptics". Taking a look at Adam Lee and his post on Shermer for an example, it seems pretty clear that he only read Myers and Ophelias hit peices and didn't even bother watching the video of Shermer, not read Shermer's post about it.

If nothing else, as the FTBers teach us almost daily, you look like a fucking moron if you repeat second hand information without checking the actual facts, and it turns out they were false. Something that inevitably will happen if you make it into a bad habit.

[Dick Strawkins]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

How long must the skeptic movement endure the pontifications of such a simple minded buffoon, elevated to a podium by a collection of identity seeking problem havers. Perpetuated by conference organisers more interested in cliques than content.

Watson is the talis[wo]man for a subsect of people who identify as skeptics, who have no interest in skepticism other than it's a club they can claim to be a part of. Then you have the likes of Croft who hail her speeches as wonderous, until someone actually spells out just how much bullshit he swallowed and praised, while calling it toast and honey. And red faced attempts to salvage his own credibility with a scramble defence that has to by extension defend twatson. What would have been more comendable on his part was a reflection on the reality that he fell for the intoxication of the group hugs.

So Rebecca Watson raped Michael Shermer at TAM5?
:whistle:

[SPACKlick]

Because then ACTUAL rapists will have that excuse too. They were too drunk to understand consent, and that misunderstanding made them think the victim was consenting. Therefore, they can't be faulted for the rape because they were drunk when they did it

But if you willingly got yourself drunk and then committed illegal actions for it, you're still liable, however you would run the question of whether or not the other party also sexually assaulted the rapist...

[Tigzy]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

I guess that applies to women who take advantage of guys who are wearing the beer-goggles then.

Best call your lawyer pronto, Becky...

[Reap]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

Happen to have a link or screenshot or something?
Sorry for being an annoying cunt, but this is the sort of stupid shit I want to read and confirm for myself instead of just taking second hand re-tellings as the truth. I'd like to think it's one of those things that separate real skeptics from the "FTB skeptics". Taking a look at Adam Lee and his post on Shermer for an example, it seems pretty clear that he only read Myers and Ophelias hit peices and didn't even bother watching the video of Shermer, not read Shermer's post about it.

If nothing else, as the FTBers teach us almost daily, you look like a fucking moron if you repeat second hand information without checking the actual facts, and it turns out they were false. Something that inevitably will happen if you make it into a bad habit.

Just reading it myself so take it as you will https://elevatorgate.wordpress.com/2012 ... ways-rape/

[Tigzy]

Linky for Becky's latest detachment from thought: https://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/statu ... 0345699330

Rebecca the Undead Rebecca the Undead ‏@rebeccawatson

If you have sex w/ someone who is drunk, they are unable to consent & that is rape.

[katamari Damassi]

http://i.imgur.com/QlieF.jpg

Is that why the long face Jen?

[Gefan]

One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

I read the article and, well, yeah, fair enough if the point is that it might just be a good idea to ask oneself what one is bringing to the table in any kind of relationship be it personal or political.
I have two problems with it.
One, to me it has a vague but unmistakeable whiff of the, peaked in high school, straight from the frat house into the office park, municipal golf course playing, Jim Rome listening, Jim Cramer pretend-to-be-listening douche nozzle demographic.
Second (and here's the big clue) it fails to take note that the salesmen in Glengarry Glen Ross were selling the proverbial "swamp land in Florida". They were contributing precisely fuck all useful to society and were, in fact, in the vanguard of the fraud-based economy with which America now finds itself encumbered en route to becoming USSR 2.0.
Having said all that, yes, it is kind of fun to ask someone of the Baboon mentality what they have to offer and then try and guess which reaction you'll get, blank incredulity or outrage.

[Za-zen]

Apologies for not linking or screenshotting it. Athacode you are 100% spot on for calling that out. I'm on mobile (i usually am) and so screenies aren't possible. Thanks to those who provided the meat.

[Scented Nectar]

Because then ACTUAL rapists will have that excuse too. They were too drunk to understand consent, and that misunderstanding made them think the victim was consenting. Therefore, they can't be faulted for the rape because they were drunk when they did it

But if you willingly got yourself drunk and then committed illegal actions for it, you're still liable, however you would run the question of whether or not the other party also sexually assaulted the rapist...

Well, if it turns out that she is promoting the idea that drunk sex = rape, then she better accept that it should not matter what sex the people are. If a sober woman has sex with a man who's had a few beers, she's raped him. And any situation where both have been drinking, can only cancel each other out, or they both have to be charged with rape.

[ReneeHendricks]

Nothing says "I'm oppressed and downtrodden" like a woman who drinks like a fish saying drunk sex is rape. I really have no love for Twatson. Yeah. I said it. I'm sure FTB lurkers will run with it.

[ReneeHendricks]

And going beyond that, am I the only one who's actually experienced rape being fucking fed up with those who haven't telling us what rape is and isn't?

[Tony Parsehole]

"Rebecca the Undead @rebeccawatson
17 Dec 12

If you have sex w/ someone who is drunk, they are unable to consent & that is rape."

Drunkeness (in Becki's mind) means you are "unable to consent". Now hang on a second, I define drunkeness as anywhere between "the state of inebriation where my inhibitions are loosened" and "passed out". Bit of a difference between the two states but both could be defined as drunk.
The problem is Becky is clearly saying that a person who is in a merry mood after a few sherries (and are therefore "drunk") is "unable to consent" to sex....... What?!? What gives that fucking bitch the right to decide for all of humankind what they can and cannot consent to whilst inebriated? How dare she imply that every day, whether they like it or not, drunk men and women are being raped in one night stands or by their partners at home even though they don't think they have been raped and very probably even enjoyed the sex?
Fucking cow.

[papillon]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

Oh, nice.
They will get that 1 in 4 figure by hook or by crook.
If this is accepted, then I've had a drunk girl go to the trouble of waking me up after she'd been out with friends, to insist that I rape her there and then.

[Tigzy]

What Watson fails to realise is that consent given whilst drunk (even if one regrets it in the morning) is still consent. An alcohol impaired misjudgement of a situation is no excuse when facing a drunk-driving charge, for example.

[Altair]

Because then ACTUAL rapists will have that excuse too. They were too drunk to understand consent, and that misunderstanding made them think the victim was consenting. Therefore, they can't be faulted for the rape because they were drunk when they did it

But if you willingly got yourself drunk and then committed illegal actions for it, you're still liable, however you would run the question of whether or not the other party also sexually assaulted the rapist...

Well, if it turns out that she is promoting the idea that drunk sex = rape, then she better accept that it should not matter what sex the people are. If a sober woman has sex with a man who's had a few beers, she's raped him. And any situation where both have been drinking, can only cancel each other out, or they both have to be charged with rape.

Silly pitters, don't you know women can't willingly get themselves drunk? It's always the guy getting her drunk so he can grrrrr-rape her.

I think it's a matter of degree. If someone is drunk enough to pass out, anything done to them while unconscious would be rape. If they are so drunk they can't form a coherent word and can barely stand? probably rape.

If they (like in the BBT clip referenced at ElevatorGate) are drunk but coherent and seem to be enthusiastic, I see no reason to believe it's rape. Especially if they got drunk willingly, as it happens most of the time.

[SPACKlick]

And going beyond that, am I the only one who's actually experienced rape being fucking fed up with those who haven't telling us what rape is and isn't?

No. I went to several legal classes to get a better idea as well, nice to know miss pissed, the twatson herself, needs no such education.

Consent, for a legally binding contract and consent to participate are different. 2 beers can make a contract null and void, it doesn't remove sufficient reason to believe the penetrated party is being penetrated willingly.

Twat mcCunt poop.

[katamari Damassi]

Radfems have been defining rape downward until nearly everyone has been and has(by their definition)raped. Anything other than "enthusiastic consent" is rape. So, if you're not in the mood and your partner pesters you for sex and you acquiesce just to shut him/her up then that is the same as if someone on the street grabbed you and threw you into his van and fucked you at knife point.

[katamari Damassi]

What Watson fails to realise is that consent given whilst drunk (even if one regrets it in the morning) is still consent. An alcohol impaired misjudgement of a situation is no excuse when facing a drunk-driving charge, for example.

Watson's view is highly infantilizing to women. They have a couple of beers and suddenly they are completely bereft of judgement and responsibility?

[Tony Parsehole]

I wonder how long until "masturbating over a mental picture of a person without their consent is rape".

[real horrorshow]

What Watson fails to realise is that consent given whilst drunk (even if one regrets it in the morning) is still consent.

Not on an ever increasing number of university campuses it isn't.

[Za-zen]

I wonder how long until "masturbating over a mental picture of a person without their consent is rape".

I think jen already made an argument that was leading to that, if not explicitly stated, during her "ewwwww homless dude fapping at ME!" Nonsense.

[codelette]

If fucking while drunk is rape, I raped various guys while in college. hehehe
Anywho, what a stupid shitty opinion. One of the best fuck sessions I had (with my, now, husband) involved massive amounts of alcohol, strippers and public displays of horniness. I'll say it was a trifecta of misoginy. And it felt good...

[ReneeHendricks]

What Watson fails to realise is that consent given whilst drunk (even if one regrets it in the morning) is still consent. An alcohol impaired misjudgement of a situation is no excuse when facing a drunk-driving charge, for example.

She should add in: while under the influence of pot, while under the influence of prescription medication, while under the influence of a chemical imbalance (purely from a body standpoint), as well as many others. She's an ass. Pure and simple. She is laying groundwork for when she does have sex while drunk (MHO).

[Tony Parsehole]

The only way I can get my missus to wear the Spiderman Costume is when she is as pissed as a fart.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

The only way I can get my missus to wear the Spiderman Costume is when she is as pissed as a fart.

We may have more in common than you'd think...

[Rystefn]

The conversation about drunken consent was one of the early ones we had, way back on the first ERV thread, if I recall correctly. People were openly stating that if two people were equally drunk and had sex, the man had raped the woman. Period. Completely one-sided, and you're a vile rape-culture supporter if you even suggest that maybe women should be held to anything resembling a similar standard of sexual responsibility as men. Disgusting fucks.

[real horrorshow]

She's an ass. Pure and simple. She is laying groundwork for when she does have sex while drunk (MHO).

I rather think Ms Watson's days of having sex while not drunk are behind her. Nor can I easily imagine anyone fucking her whilst sober.

[Cunning Punt]

Rebecca watson, has applied her indepth understanding of the nature of consent to determine, that having sex with someone who is drunk, is always rape.

Oh, nice.
They will get that 1 in 4 figure by hook or by crook.
If this is accepted, then I've had a drunk girl go to the trouble of waking me up after she'd been out with friends, to insist that I rape her there and then.

Plus I have been raped many times when I was younger. Ah, youth.

[welch]

"Rebecca the Undead @rebeccawatson
17 Dec 12

If you have sex w/ someone who is drunk, they are unable to consent & that is rape."

Drunkeness (in Becki's mind) means you are "unable to consent". Now hang on a second, I define drunkeness as anywhere between "the state of inebriation where my inhibitions are loosened" and "passed out". Bit of a difference between the two states but both could be defined as drunk.
The problem is Becky is clearly saying that a person who is in a merry mood after a few sherries (and are therefore "drunk") is "unable to consent" to sex....... What?!? What gives that fucking bitch the right to decide for all of humankind what they can and cannot consent to whilst inebriated? How dare she imply that every day, whether they like it or not, drunk men and women are being raped in one night stands or by their partners at home even though they don't think they have been raped and very probably even enjoyed the sex?
Fucking cow.

and everyone falls for the trip. "drunk". what is "drunk"? Well, she doesn't define it, so it can now mean whatever she wants it to, so long as it proves her point.

"Drunk" is insensate. "Drunk" is barely conscious. So on and so forth.

The first reaction should have been "How you are defining "drunk" in that statement?" Once you nail her down to a usable definition, then you can properly analyze that statement. As it is, people are jumping on a nigh infinite range from "a coors light" (which can make you legally drunk in many places) to "in the hospital from alcohol poisoning, damned near in a coma". There's no point in even trying to talk about that, it's a bag of cats of a term. You have to define "drunk" for that argument first.

That said, there are levels of drunk where she is right, and levels where she is wrong.

[Rystefn]

She will never define "drunk" in this context, because it will lose its power as a weapon if she does.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I was so drunk once, I fell on a naked electric wire and almost shocked myself to death. Who was the rapist?

("electricity" is female in French, so I guess I lost again)

[welch]

She will never define "drunk" in this context, because it will lose its power as a weapon if she does.

bingo.

[Altair]

I was so drunk once, I fell on a naked electric wire and almost shocked myself to death. Who was the rapist?

("electricity" is female in French, so I guess I lost again)

If the wire didn't want to be raped, it shouldn't have been naked at that time of the night, in that part of town :snooty:

[mikelf unplugged]

I was so drunk once, I fell on a naked electric wire and almost shocked myself to death. Who was the rapist?

("electricity" is female in French, so I guess I lost again)

If the wire didn't want to be raped, it shouldn't have been naked at that time of the night, in that part of town :snooty:

Victim blamer.

[Lsuoma]

http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/rtwattweet.jpg

[Altair]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1936/blotto.png

The way she "summarizes" a lot of thought-out and for the most part polite questions and rebuttals to her stupid ideas as "people being mad because they can't fuck someone who's blotto" annoys me to no end. How her supporters will take her word for it instead of going and reading the conversation annoys me too.

Also notice how now she's using the word blotto (previously unknown to me, but which apparently means "unconscious, esp through drunkenness") instead of the word she used before, "drunk", to avoid the "degrees of drunken-ness" counter-argument.

What a cunt.

[KarlVonMox]

She will never define "drunk" in this context, because it will lose its power as a weapon if she does.

bingo.

Of course she could just define it as any alcohol consumption at all to avoid the grey area, thereby classifying a lot of consensual sex that goes on as rape. She doesn't realize what kind of a conundrum she puts herself in here. Lots of sexually active people have wild drunk and consentual sex all the time, and we can be fairly sure she has done it in the past.

[mikelf unplugged]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1936/blotto.png

The way she "summarizes" a lot of thought-out and for the most part polite questions and rebuttals to her stupid ideas as "people being mad because they can't fuck someone who's blotto" annoys me to no end. How her supporters will take her word for it instead of going and reading the conversation annoys me too.

Also notice how now she's using the word blotto (previously unknown to me, but which apparently means "unconscious, esp through drunkenness") instead of the word she used before, "drunk", to avoid the "degrees of drunken-ness" counter-argument.

What a cunt.

Did to really expect any other outcome? Negative attention is like oxygen to her. Expect this to feature prominently in her new keynote speech.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I have a girlfriend. I don't cheat. I don't need "extra sex". And I have no idea what "blotto" means, you racist cunt (Watson, not you, Alair)!

Fuck you Watson, in the most Platonic way possible because there's nothing short of Apocalypse that would have me even contemplate having sex with you.

Clear enough, bitch?

[mordacious1]

I'm just glad the Becky is finally talking about something where she might be considered an expert by some.

[Saint N.]

I can't look at Laden's hair without thinking of this,

http://www.dbcovers.com/imagenes/backdr ... 992_14.jpg

Also considering the fact that this argument about drunkenness and rape was had several times over the past year and a half, Im convinced Watson is just trying to stir more drama to keep herself relevant. She botched the evo-psych thing so badly that she's going back to what she knows works to get her attention.

[Parge]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1936/blotto.png

The way she "summarizes" a lot of thought-out and for the most part polite questions and rebuttals to her stupid ideas as "people being mad because they can't fuck someone who's blotto" annoys me to no end. How her supporters will take her word for it instead of going and reading the conversation annoys me too.

Also notice how now she's using the word blotto (previously unknown to me, but which apparently means "unconscious, esp through drunkenness") instead of the word she used before, "drunk", to avoid the "degrees of drunken-ness" counter-argument.

What a cunt.

She's a child and that's a child's response. Fucking fifteen years old, tops.

[Dick Strawkins]

She is trolling here.
For someone who has a degree in communications you might think that she would be able to word her declaration in such a way that it is not so ambiguous as it first appears.

If you have sex with someone who is drunk, they are unable to consent and that is rape.

Could be worded:

If you have sex with someone who is so drunk they are unable to consent, that is rape.

To which very few people would have problems (although you might quibble over the word 'rape' which is generally reserved for forced penetrative sex rather than other forms of sex.)

But of course if she worded it like that she wouldn't get any bites and won't be able to squeal: "Misogynists! They are complaining that they can't get some poor woman blotto and then force themselves on her."

[Gefan]

Radfems have been defining rape downward until nearly everyone has been and has(by their definition)raped. Anything other than "enthusiastic consent" is rape. So, if you're not in the mood and your partner pesters you for sex and you acquiesce just to shut him/her up then that is the same as if someone on the street grabbed you and threw you into his van and fucked you at knife point.

Out of morbid curiosity, is there an official, party-line definition of "enthusiastic consent"?

[Outwest]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1936/blotto.png

The way she "summarizes" a lot of thought-out and for the most part polite questions and rebuttals to her stupid ideas as "people being mad because they can't fuck someone who's blotto" annoys me to no end. How her supporters will take her word for it instead of going and reading the conversation annoys me too.

Also notice how now she's using the word blotto (previously unknown to me, but which apparently means "unconscious, esp through drunkenness") instead of the word she used before, "drunk", to avoid the "degrees of drunken-ness" counter-argument.

What a cunt.

It seems she always does this kind of thing when challenged on some bizzare statement(s) she's made(Evo-Psych, anyone?) Now, in her original statement, did she actually mean "blotto"? It may be (not apologizing for her), but that's not what she said.

If she actually meant "blotto", then she should have said that. When you make statements to the skeptical world, you probably need to be able to back those statements up, instead of doing the "double-down" until you can't defend the statement anymore. Then redefine the meaning once you've lost the argument.

[Dick Strawkins]

I can't look at Laden's hair without thinking of this,

http://www.dbcovers.com/imagenes/backdr ... 992_14.jpg

Also considering the fact that this argument about drunkenness and rape was had several times over the past year and a half, Im convinced Watson is just trying to stir more drama to keep herself relevant. She botched the evo-psych thing so badly that she's going back to what she knows works to get her attention.

I agree - both about Ladens hair and Watsons tactics.
Don't fall for her blatant bait and switch. It was blindingly obvious that she was just saying something ambiguous and silly, ready to switch it for a more obvious moral point when she's attracted negative comments on the original statement - and then claim the original criticisms are about the second claim.
She's gone back to her safe ground. Winding up youtube commenters.
Just ignore her.

Maybe she'll go away.

[welch]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1936/blotto.png

The way she "summarizes" a lot of thought-out and for the most part polite questions and rebuttals to her stupid ideas as "people being mad because they can't fuck someone who's blotto" annoys me to no end. How her supporters will take her word for it instead of going and reading the conversation annoys me too.

Also notice how now she's using the word blotto (previously unknown to me, but which apparently means "unconscious, esp through drunkenness") instead of the word she used before, "drunk", to avoid the "degrees of drunken-ness" counter-argument.

What a cunt.

And she pulled it off. Say something absolute, using a vague standard, to get people worked up. once that's happened, remove the vagueness, and successfully imply that's what you meant all along. Gotta give becky credit, she didn't even have to work hard.

[Altair]

Out of morbid curiosity, is there an official, party-line definition of "enthusiastic consent"?

I don't think they have one, but whenever I read that phrase, this is what comes to my mind:

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[bhoytony]

At least 99% of the whole kilt and tartan business is tourist fiction. Walter Scott started it off with all the fakery for Fat Georgie's visit in 1822. It's still a major part of Scotland's biggest industry to this day. It's as "fake" or "wannabe" as it's always been, but no more.

I write a post referring to inventing your own pretend tartan and the fake Scottish shortbread tin culture and I have people lining up to educate me on the fact that these things are not actually authentic. Thanks for that guys, I had no idea. I now see that I have been living a lie and Scotland is not really like one big episode of the White Heather Club.
As far as I can see Scottish culture is essentially comprised of food and drink. Breakfast rolls, square sausage, clootie dumpling, tablet, Caramel Wafers, mutton pies, fish suppers, Irn Bru, cream soda, Buckfast, stovies and lots of vodka(when I went to the Eufa Cup final in Seville the Spaniards had stocked up on whisky and were shocked when it was hardly touched and the hordes had drunk every drop of vodka in the city within a day).

[Dick Strawkins]

At least 99% of the whole kilt and tartan business is tourist fiction. Walter Scott started it off with all the fakery for Fat Georgie's visit in 1822. It's still a major part of Scotland's biggest industry to this day. It's as "fake" or "wannabe" as it's always been, but no more.

I write a post referring to inventing your own pretend tartan and the fake Scottish shortbread tin culture and I have people lining up to educate me on the fact that these things are not actually authentic. Thanks for that guys, I had no idea. I now see that I have been living a lie and Scotland is not really like one big episode of the White Heather Club.
As far as I can see Scottish culture is essentially comprised of food and drink. Breakfast rolls, square sausage, clootie dumpling, tablet, Caramel Wafers, mutton pies, fish suppers, Irn Bru, cream soda, Buckfast, stovies and lots of vodka(when I went to the Eufa Cup final in Seville the Spaniards had stocked up on whisky and were shocked when it was hardly touched and the hordes had drunk every drop of vodka in the city within a day).

Yes, but what about the deep fried mars bars?

[Al Stefanelli]

http://slymepit.com/staticimgs/rtwattweet.jpg

Really? Seriously? How drunk? Like, college party drunk? Like, meet someone at a bar whose had eleventy drinks and grabs your balls while your waiting for the bartender to give you your Guinness Stout? Where is the point where someone is too drunk to fuck? I would guess somewhere prior to passing out.

Using her logic, high schools, colleges, bars, nightclubs and just about anywhere else are chock-full-'o-rapists. Jesus fucking Christ in pink satin pumps, someone get a fucking octopus so we can do an octo-facepalm.

To what fucking end..?

[bhoytony]

At least 99% of the whole kilt and tartan business is tourist fiction. Walter Scott started it off with all the fakery for Fat Georgie's visit in 1822. It's still a major part of Scotland's biggest industry to this day. It's as "fake" or "wannabe" as it's always been, but no more.

I write a post referring to inventing your own pretend tartan and the fake Scottish shortbread tin culture and I have people lining up to educate me on the fact that these things are not actually authentic. Thanks for that guys, I had no idea. I now see that I have been living a lie and Scotland is not really like one big episode of the White Heather Club.
As far as I can see Scottish culture is essentially comprised of food and drink. Breakfast rolls, square sausage, clootie dumpling, tablet, Caramel Wafers, mutton pies, fish suppers, Irn Bru, cream soda, Buckfast, stovies and lots of vodka(when I went to the Eufa Cup final in Seville the Spaniards had stocked up on whisky and were shocked when it was hardly touched and the hordes had drunk every drop of vodka in the city within a day).

Yes, but what about the deep fried mars bars?

That is another load of bollocks.

[Git]

I see you the Party Rings and raise you:

Nice. Buttery biccies are excellent for teh dunkin.

Bollocks. You don't dunk Butter Puffs, they're for spreading massive amounts of Dairylea on and stacking, to be introduced into the mouth as a six inch wad of slimy carbs.

Oh gods. yes. Primula though. And butter.

[comslave]

She is trolling here.
For someone who has a degree in communications you might think that she would be able to word her declaration in such a way that it is not so ambiguous as it first appears.

If you have sex with someone who is drunk, they are unable to consent and that is rape.

Could be worded:

If you have sex with someone who is so drunk they are unable to consent, that is rape.

To which very few people would have problems (although you might quibble over the word 'rape' which is generally reserved for forced penetrative sex rather than other forms of sex.)

But of course if she worded it like that she wouldn't get any bites and won't be able to squeal: "Misogynists! They are complaining that they can't get some poor woman blotto and then force themselves on her."

I think you're missing the intent of the statement. A man is not only responsible for how a woman feels during sex, he's also responsible for how she feels after sex. Being intoxicated at any level could cause a woman to feel regrets after she sobers up. regrets=didn't really want to have sex=rape. Because even one drink can impair judgement, one drink=rape.

[welch]

I write a post referring to inventing your own pretend tartan and the fake Scottish shortbread tin culture and I have people lining up to educate me on the fact that these things are not actually authentic. Thanks for that guys, I had no idea. I now see that I have been living a lie and Scotland is not really like one big episode of the White Heather Club.
As far as I can see Scottish culture is essentially comprised of food and drink. Breakfast rolls, square sausage, clootie dumpling, tablet, Caramel Wafers, mutton pies, fish suppers, Irn Bru, cream soda, Buckfast, stovies and lots of vodka(when I went to the Eufa Cup final in Seville the Spaniards had stocked up on whisky and were shocked when it was hardly touched and the hordes had drunk every drop of vodka in the city within a day).

Yes, but what about the deep fried mars bars?

That is another load of bollocks.

Maybe there. Down here, that stuff is real. REAL GOOD.

[papillon]

As far as I can see Scottish culture is essentially comprised of food and drink. Breakfast rolls, square sausage, clootie dumpling, tablet, Caramel Wafers, mutton pies, fish suppers, Irn Bru, cream soda, Buckfast, stovies and lots of vodka(when I went to the Eufa Cup final in Seville the Spaniards had stocked up on whisky and were shocked when it was hardly touched and the hordes had drunk every drop of vodka in the city within a day).

I was sent to work in Glasgow (kicking and screaming) in 1991, and ended up loving it.
The SubClub, the Barras market, the Liquor Shack, the Scotia? pub, the Neds and the ice-cream vans were all memorable, but wow, the square sausage, bacon and potato scone breakfast rolls from the place behind Princes Street were unbeatable.