If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

papillon wrote:*Full disclosure: I am a person of whiteness, compete with penis and latent homicidal tendencies.

Having given the matter a little more thought, I think the proper form should be Person of Paleness or PoP.

Reading that piece by Sikivu Hutchinson I was taken aback by the overt racism of it. The hate is almost tangible. FreeThoughtBlogs can be proud to give a voice to this talented pupil of Josef Goebbels.

But for me her most shocking utterance is not “the violent masculinity at the heart of whiteness”. No, the most horrible, the most shocking statement of all comes right at the beginning:

Standing in line at the California Science Center the day of the mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary school, my students wondered aloud about the race of the shooter.

Students? “My students”? This fucked up individual, for whom the term feminazi is entirely appropriate, has students? That is sick.

I wonder what her subject is. Racist hate mongering 101?

http://freethoughtlogs.com/blackskeptic ... ss-murder/

One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

Today's WTF tweet, courtesy of ElevatorGate

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/605/ballsfo.png

Apparently someone commented something about her breasts on the street. While that's not a exactly nice thing to do, I don't find it terrible either. And it's not like someone put a gun to her head and forced her to display her breasts (is that victim blaming?).

That's another thing that must be cultural, I've never seen anyone making that kind of comments to women on the street, and never hadanyone of my female relatives or friends tell a story like that. Perhaps she was in a bad part of town?

Someone should tell her that men are judged all the time as well, on apparent confidence, level of creepyness and even cock size.
Mykeru is already engaging her (probably vibrating and shit), as well as several others. The anger on her timeline is almost palpable.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2584/equality.png

Lovely woman, although I almost feel bad for the amount of anger she seems to carry around.

Altair wrote:Today's WTF tweet, courtesy of ElevatorGate

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/605/ballsfo.png

Apparently someone commented something about her breasts on the street. While that's not a exactly nice thing to do, I don't find it terrible either. And it's not like someone put a gun to her head and forced her to display her breasts (is that victim blaming?).

That's another thing that must be cultural, I've never seen anyone making that kind of comments to women on the street, and never hadanyone of my female relatives or friends tell a story like that. Perhaps she was in a bad part of town?

Someone should tell her that men are judged all the time as well, on apparent confidence, level of creepyness and even cock size.
Mykeru is already engaging her (probably vibrating and shit), as well as several others. The anger on her timeline is almost palpable.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2584/equality.png

Lovely woman, although I almost feel bad for the amount of anger she seems to carry around.

I have found in life that people who have irrationally strong feelings about X tend to see examples for or against X where ever they go.

Confirmation bias in its truest form.

The race thing Sikivu brings up is hilarious and stupid, because it's so...well, dumb. For example, growing up in Miami in the 70s and 80s, (NOT a nice place), I had exactly two situations with random people on the street doing me harm, or attempting to. (not counting school here.) Well, three. Old white guy hit me with his car because he hated kids on bikes. Weird. Got a free bike out of it.

1) Waiting for the bus home from Orange Blossom Hobbies, which was on NW 36th street in a neighborhood with the charming, better known moniker of Liberty City. Big, (well, I was 14, and short. EVERYONE looked big to me) black dude comes up and says "Gimme your watch". I made the split-second decision to look at the ground and give him my damned watch. He even asked "Why you lookin' at the ground?" "'cause I don't want to have any fucking idea as to what you look like." "nice" and that was it. Cops said I was one of the smarter victims they'd run into from that area. This was shown by me being alive and not beaten to a pulp.

2) At the corner of Grand and Douglas, which, in the early 80s was NOT what it is now, (nor was it the honky tonk area so hilariously depicted in "Invasion USA".) It was a gangky corner in a gangky area sandwiched in between two upper end areas, and how we left the Grove Art Cinema after a night of Rocky Horror. It was understood by all, and the cops that at 2am, you run that fucking light. There was almost no traffic, and moving targets aren't as much fun.

Motherfucker driving the truck I'm in the back of STOPS. We literally cannot comprehend this. Black/White/Plaid, if you didn't live there, you run that fucking red light. There's a few seconds of "this can't be happening" and then Gil's Spot and another place open up. People in the bed are getting hit, and the locals are trying to pull us out of the bed. One dude wraps his arm around my face as a way of doing just that. It ended badly for him. People taste yucky. (seriously, ripped a fucking chunk out of his forearm. Yuck. You HAVE to be starving to eat human. Ick.) Dude driving sits there for what was probably five more seconds, felt like much longer before leaving.

EVERY.single.person. attacking that truck was black.

By any and all logic, I should have some serious issues with black males. Because my personal experience has some not good parts. But, that would be a stupid kind of logic. I blame the people that attacked me for being dickholes, not every person sharing similar physical characteristics who I've never met. THOSE people were dickholes. They HAPPENED to be black. That was a secondary characteristic.

Sikivu reminds me of a lot of shit from the 70s, and it's just as stupid now as then.

Altair wrote:Today's WTF tweet, courtesy of ElevatorGate

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/605/ballsfo.png

Apparently someone commented something about her breasts on the street. While that's not a exactly nice thing to do, I don't find it terrible either. And it's not like someone put a gun to her head and forced her to display her breasts (is that victim blaming?).

That's another thing that must be cultural, I've never seen anyone making that kind of comments to women on the street, and never hadanyone of my female relatives or friends tell a story like that. Perhaps she was in a bad part of town?

Someone should tell her that men are judged all the time as well, on apparent confidence, level of creepyness and even cock size.
Mykeru is already engaging her (probably vibrating and shit), as well as several others. The anger on her timeline is almost palpable.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2584/equality.png

Lovely woman, although I almost feel bad for the amount of anger she seems to carry around.

Ah, I see six-year-old revenge desires are still popular.

Dilurk wrote:A beautiful article from http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... e-checking On the mis-use of the term "privilege".

Yeah, it's the 60/70s all over again. Instead of making common cause over class issues which were important to everybody, the left/right fractured over identity politics. The god-n-country working class (many of whom were union, fer chrissakes) and the hippie-academic progressives despised each other and worked to nullify the other's votes, which got us decades of reactionary neoliberalism and kleptocrats run amok. And here we are again in an economic climate that offers little hope for most, with governments becoming little more than muscle for moneyed interests, and the most important thing to do right now is stymie ourselves with "privilege" policing. Fuck me, we're fucking stupid.

katamari Damassi wrote:

Al Stefanelli wrote:

rayshul wrote:Witch is a misogynistic term.

Can I put that on a bingo card?

Jesus fucking Christ. Next thing you know the word 'woman' will be pegged as misogynist... What the actual fuck?

I think "pegged" is a misogynistic term. It implies women want to fuck men in the ass with a strap on.

They don't? Damn.

welch wrote:The race thing Sikivu brings up is hilarious and stupid, because it's so...well, dumb.

Yep. I immediately thought of the Bloods and the Crips during the early 90's. Did she think they fought over drug territory via interpretive dance?

Dilurk wrote:

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:Dilurk:

I missed the other quotes. Ibis3 sounds very confused. Sounds like I will have to register somewhere so I can post a reply. This is thoroughly disgusting.

Forget it. Fully paid up BS moniker sporting member of FTB is our IBis3. She's not confused, just innoculated against logic.

I see this idiot (ibis3) has already been trashed thoroughly already.

Somewhat problematic that so many – and on both sides – seem to be fanning the flames of schism. Seems to be less important to some – like Ibis3 – that someone is an atheist and skeptic, not to mention being a strong proponent of science and critical thinking, than that they bend the knee to feminist ideologies of one sort or another, notably the postmodernist doctrine that gender is entirely a social construct.

Welch, as a person who's been in some rough situations in "da hood", I totally agree with you on Sikivu's dumb blog.

Also, this is another case where a person is using the shooting to promote their own agenda.

To the anti-gun people, they've turned it into an argument about guns. To the religious people, they turned it into an argument about the lack of religion in schools. The conservatives are blaming democrats. Greg Laden used the situation to say that Slymepitters side with a spree killer (seriously, Greg?). And Sikivu's is using the situation to further her anti-white campaign.

CHECK OUT THIS EMAIL I JUST GOT! I FUCKING WIN:

http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2012/12/ ... email.html

There's another thing we know about Friday's shooter that hasn't been discussed as far I know: he was an honor student. Maybe it's the education that makes people go berserk. Do we know the grades of all the shooting spree shooters?

Wild Zontargs wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:

JAB wrote:I think it's time for you to do your part to combat sexism! You must open a school to teach needlepoint and only allow men to enroll. We have a lawyer here somewhere who will assist you should any women feel hard done by and sue you.

Noooooooooooo, I'm recently retired. No more work from now on. Just fun things that look like work, like making patterns.

Actually, if any group or individual would like a pattern made for their favourite mottos, insignias, pet pics, or whatever, just let me know. I just need a starting pic. Making patterns keeps me off the streets and out of trouble. :)

Hell, want to get the guys interested without much effort? Point out that it's fabric pixel art. Show them a Minecraft scene or Mario or something. Oh, and it's made using math and sharp objects, and here's how to design it on a computer. I could actually see it taking off with a subset of STEM students and the like.

Fabric Pixel Art. I like it. That repackages it so that it appeals to all. For far too long it's been the domain of overly-sappy, country-style-cutsie, gag me with a fucking spoon type, good xtian mommy designs. Might cause a few fainting old-school grannies though. "Why are you doing needlepoint?!?!?!?! You're a boy!" "What? This isn't needlepoint! I'm doing Fabric Pixelling! Cool, huh? Check out Mario over here..."

welch wrote:One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

A meritocracy must rank somewhere between libertarianism and men's rights on the A+ continuum of verboten concepts.

Dilurk wrote:A beautiful article from http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... e-checking On the mis-use of the term "privilege".

The butthurt SJWs in the comments seal the deal.

Sulaco wrote:

welch wrote:The race thing Sikivu brings up is hilarious and stupid, because it's so...well, dumb.

Yep. I immediately thought of the Bloods and the Crips during the early 90's. Did she think they fought over drug territory via interpretive dance?

According to "Beat It", yes.

welch wrote:CHECK OUT THIS EMAIL I JUST GOT! I FUCKING WIN:

http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2012/12/ ... email.html

Whoever wrote that should go on the Alex Jones Show or write for infowars.com. He'd fit right in! :lol:

welch wrote:One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

That article is the most awesome fucking thing I ever saw on Cracked. I think that just about anyone can see a part of themselves in that. But for the moment, I'll paste this here since it reminds me of the way Ophelia et. al. trash anyone who does good work or merely disagrees with them (Shermer being just the latest example):

Just remember, they're only expressing their own fear, since trashing other people's work is another excuse to do nothing. "Why should I create anything when the things other people create suck? I would totally have written a novel by now, but I'm going to wait for something good, I don't want to write the next Twilight!" As long as they never produce anything, it will forever be perfect and beyond reproach.

:clap:

Dilurk wrote:Sounds like a cross between "cowboy coffee" and Turkish/Greek coffee. You've just refined it with a filter. Nice.

Don't take this the wrong way but I find you interesting. Would you mind if I came over to have a cup of coffee in your room with you?

Woohoo! I think I might be getting lucky tonight. Give me an hour to shower, change the bedsheets, brew a pot, and then c'mon over. :dance:

So, if I'm reading Sickie Hutchinson correctly, then the 2 Washington snipers and also the Atlanta child killer, were white. My eyes must have gotten that wrong. Or the TV was on the blitz, cuz they didn't look very white to me, once they caught them. The white-led patriarchy must have put dark makeup on them so that people wouldn't realize that it's only white men who control all the mass murderering violence. Never women *cough* *I don't like Mondays* *cough*, and never anyone with skin darker brown than light beige.

Hey, if Sickie thinks white men are intrinsically violent, then it's only fair to assume that she ascribes to the very contentious evo-psych regarding race and gender. Just saying.

papillon wrote:

mordacious1 wrote:Uh oh....

SeCUlar Liberal Youth MovemeNT

Nonsense - he's a closeted radfem.

seCULar Liberal YOUth moveMENt

This, and the other versions, is one of the reasons I love this place.

Someone points out that there have been black serial killers. The response:

http://i.imgur.com/QMTUc.jpg

You need to reread the article (perhaps consult a dictionary) and check your facts. The post did not claim that white men are more likely to be “serial killers.” There is a difference between mass murder and serial murder.

Okay, so the post just claims that white men are more likely to be mass murderers. While some people in Rwanda might disagree, it should not even be necessary to point that out. The whole premise is undiluted racism. But I have the strong suspicion that "racism" is one of those terms where the dictionary definition is being rejected by the enlightened FTB bloggers. They will probably claim that, Sikivu belonging to a marginalised group, she can by definition not be racist. So her suggestion to consult a dictionary is probably a slip of the tongue on her part.

Ape+lust wrote:

Dilurk wrote:A beautiful article from http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... e-checking On the mis-use of the term "privilege".

Yeah, it's the 60/70s all over again. Instead of making common cause over class issues which were important to everybody, the left/right fractured over identity politics. The god-n-country working class (many of whom were union, fer chrissakes) and the hippie-academic progressives despised each other and worked to nullify the other's votes, which got us decades of reactionary neoliberalism and kleptocrats run amok. And here we are again in an economic climate that offers little hope for most, with governments becoming little more than muscle for moneyed interests, and the most important thing to do right now is stymie ourselves with "privilege" policing. Fuck me, we're fucking stupid.

Back in the 80's I remember seeing an interview with a former SJW type who was lamenting that "We were fighting to take over our university's English department while the right wing was taking the country."

Gefan wrote:Ahhhh, much better.
Now please tell me the beans didn't pass through a Civet or Elephant (or Stephalump) before market.

Ugh! I'll drink cold machine-dispensed dishwater coffee that's sat for a week and has mold on top, before I would ever go near coffee that's been pooped out of some animal, no matter whether it's a civet, an elephant, or a pig, or even a piggy nosed Stephalump.

With the civets, they say what's good about it is that the civets will only eat the ripest beans, which is supposed to make a better coffee. Here's an idea. Instead of (probably mechanical) harvests of beans, harvest the very ripe ones only, by hand. OR better yet, someone in robotics should design a harvester that ONLY picks the ripest ones as it passes along the bushes. It would have to pluck them by maybe a berry-specific vacuum action to avoid disturbing less ripe berries that are closely nearby. Being mechanical one could run it through a field once a day or even continuously, always bringing in only the ripest beans (berries actually, with an inner seed we call the bean, but close enough).

cunt wrote:

Dilurk wrote:A beautiful article from http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... e-checking On the mis-use of the term "privilege".

The butthurt SJWs in the comments seal the deal.

Love this bit from the article:

It’s the perfect example of what Freud called “the narcissism of small differences”: communities with adjoining territories and seemingly identical goals who engage in constant feuding, striking outlandish poses to differentiate themselves from one another.

Something that has Greg - "criticizing" doxing of WBC is the same as supporting them - Laden's name written all over it.

The anti-accommodationist stance of PZ - and others - being somewhat of a contributor to that process. One thing to draw the line at dogmatic belief in the literal existence of various deities; quite another to do so over apparently picayune details of feminist ideology or evolutionary psychology theory. Although maybe the latter two cases share some problematic similarities with the first in that all, depending on the specific cases and individuals involved, are guilty of the "sin" of reification - taking an abstraction as something real ("the patriarchy" anyone?)

Za-zen wrote:Alarm bells when an course lists "interview skills"

I remember being made to go to that kind of thing decades ago. It was back in the days when CV's were called Resumes. They taught interview manners and other faking it bullshit. I was not impressed, and the teachers did not have an easy time with me. I asked shit they didn't want to hear. I also refused to fake it all during "practice interviews". One place had a video camera (old style type) on for the 'interviews', for the purpose of everyone being shown to the class and being shown what they allegedly did wrong. I warned them that a camera on me makes me ham it up and that I can't help it. So, with them thusly warned, and me being told I HAVE to do it, they started a let's pretend childish interview role playing. I scratched my pits, made nose-clearing sniffle noises and then asked loudly what times your company has lunch breaks and shit like that. Fuck learning how to deceive your way into a job. Couldn't and wouldn't. Handshake, let the interviewer sit down first unless they point you to a chair, when to smile, what to wear, look them in the eye, take on a positive attitude, sell yourself in the style of a used car salesman using hard sales techniques. Ugh!

Gumby wrote:

welch wrote:One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

That article is the most awesome fucking thing I ever saw on Cracked. I think that just about anyone can see a part of themselves in that. But for the moment, I'll paste this here since it reminds me of the way Ophelia et. al. trash anyone who does good work or merely disagrees with them (Shermer being just the latest example):

Just remember, they're only expressing their own fear, since trashing other people's work is another excuse to do nothing. "Why should I create anything when the things other people create suck? I would totally have written a novel by now, but I'm going to wait for something good, I don't want to write the next Twilight!" As long as they never produce anything, it will forever be perfect and beyond reproach.

:clap:

Yup. It's what we refer to as unicorns on AMB. The imaginary product that doesn't exist but will DOOOOM Apple. Or make it UBEATABLE 4-EVAH!!!!!

That's the great thing about unicorns. You can't ever beat them.

KiwiInOz wrote:

ERV wrote:
I suppose there are some irregular Oreos left.

Oreos are quite over rated, in the humble opinion of this antipodean.

Tim tams aren't bad.

But you can't beat the humble Krispie.

<snipped.]

Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

http://www.thegreatbritishdiet.co.uk/Im ... colate.jpg

welch wrote:

Gumby wrote:

welch wrote:One of the best articles on the subject i've ever read. it would of course, make the FTBwats and A+ fooles (SEE WHAT I DID THERE WITH THAT FUCKING EXTRA 'e'???) cry. But that's one reason I like it so. The other is that it's pretty dead on, esp. the relationship part:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-tru ... er-person/

That article is the most awesome fucking thing I ever saw on Cracked. I think that just about anyone can see a part of themselves in that. But for the moment, I'll paste this here since it reminds me of the way Ophelia et. al. trash anyone who does good work or merely disagrees with them (Shermer being just the latest example):

Just remember, they're only expressing their own fear, since trashing other people's work is another excuse to do nothing. "Why should I create anything when the things other people create suck? I would totally have written a novel by now, but I'm going to wait for something good, I don't want to write the next Twilight!" As long as they never produce anything, it will forever be perfect and beyond reproach.

:clap:

Yup. It's what we refer to as unicorns on AMB. The imaginary product that doesn't exist but will DOOOOM Apple. Or make it UBEATABLE 4-EVAH!!!!!

That's the great thing about unicorns. You can't ever beat them.

Well and apparently it was those fucking unicorns that killed Biggie and Tupac.

WHITE unicorns.

ERV wrote:

welch wrote:

Yup. It's what we refer to as unicorns on AMB. The imaginary product that doesn't exist but will DOOOOM Apple. Or make it UBEATABLE 4-EVAH!!!!!

That's the great thing about unicorns. You can't ever beat them.

Well and apparently it was those fucking unicorns that killed Biggie and Tupac.

WHITE unicorns.

DAMN YOU HONNNNNKIEEEEEESSSSS!!!!

Scented Nectar wrote:
With the civets, they say what's good about it is that the civets will only eat the ripest beans, which is supposed to make a better coffee. Here's an idea. Instead of (probably mechanical) harvests of beans, harvest the very ripe ones only, by hand. OR better yet, someone in robotics should design a harvester that ONLY picks the ripest ones as it passes along the bushes.

Lazy is when you'll drink steaming hot cat crap rather than pick your own damn beans.

Mykeru wrote:

Scented Nectar wrote:
With the civets, they say what's good about it is that the civets will only eat the ripest beans, which is supposed to make a better coffee. Here's an idea. Instead of (probably mechanical) harvests of beans, harvest the very ripe ones only, by hand. OR better yet, someone in robotics should design a harvester that ONLY picks the ripest ones as it passes along the bushes.

Lazy is when you'll drink steaming hot cat crap rather than pick your own damn beans.

Now, see, when a person's reGretavirus acts up to that extreme extent (I had no idea it could get that bad!), it's time to see one's doctor. Or give up coffee.

What is it with crazy women and elevators? I mean, really, is this a pattern or something? Do elevators bring out psychotic episodes in susceptible women? Do crazy men ever do this sort of thing?

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Altair wrote:Today's WTF tweet, courtesy of ElevatorGate

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/605/ballsfo.png

Apparently someone commented something about her breasts on the street. While that's not a exactly nice thing to do, I don't find it terrible either. And it's not like someone put a gun to her head and forced her to display her breasts (is that victim blaming?).

Maybe somewhat unfortunate, depending on your point of view, that women’s “secondary sexual characteristics” are generally so obvious; maybe Ms. Lewis would like to see more men wearing codpieces – I expect Scented could work-up a line of SlymePit approved knitted versions for the next TAM – likely to provide “stiff” competition – depending on the models used, of course – for Amy’s schlock.

But while it is quite true that many women advertise their wares – which I generally have no problem with; never pass up gratuitous titilation – it seems that more than a few “men” – I use the term loosely – are rather boorish, to say the least, about the phenomenon even where such intent is not present. For instance you might want to take a look at a post by Ophelia Benson on quite odious levels of sexual harassment as described in a documentary. A salient quote or two:

When Sofie Peeters moved to Brussels for a film degree, she found herself confronted with a depressing problem almost every time she left her front door. Walking around her local neighbourhood, the mixed, working-class district of Anneessens, at any time of day she would be greeted with cat-calls, wolf-whistles and jeers of “slag” and “how much do you cost?”

Sick of wondering whether it was her fault for wearing particular clothes, she made her end of year film on the topic, armed with a hidden camera to record the street harassment.

The student film, Femme de la Rue, a shocking account of everyday sexist insults in the street, is now at the centre of a political and social storm in Belgium and across its borders. After it was shown on TV and at a screening last week it has become an internet success and triggered a public debate.

Belgian politicians say they were already planning legislation to crack down on sexist insults and harassment, promising fines for offenders. French feminist groups seized on the film to highlight similar problems in France and break the taboo surrounding street harassment.

As you say, we are all judged, at one time or another, frequently on the basis of sexual attractiveness which frequently tends to be rather idiosyncratic. For instance, this interesting if bizarre case of the Sara Kaba tribe in Africa which inserted – apparently until the practice was banned – wooden plates of increasing diameter into the lower lips of their women to make them less attractive to raiding parties from other tribes and which, apparently, came to be seen by the former as marks of distinction.

But just a little difficult to argue that all of that isn’t an outgrowth of genetically determined pair-bonding and procreative instincts. Trick is, I think, to ensure that those instincts are adequately “disciplined by our hearts and minds”.

Git wrote:
Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

http://www.thegreatbritishdiet.co.uk/Im ... colate.jpg

PLAIN chocolate? To the nethermost depths of hell with you!

Git wrote:

KiwiInOz wrote:

ERV wrote:
I suppose there are some irregular Oreos left.

Oreos are quite over rated, in the humble opinion of this antipodean.

Tim tams aren't bad.

But you can't beat the humble Krispie.

<snipped.]

Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

http://www.thegreatbritishdiet.co.uk/Im ... colate.jpg

I'm with you on biscuit and will join in a crusade with you against the infidels who worship the abomination called cookie. However it is a matter of doctrine that I must take issue with you regarding chocolate digestives. There is only one true digestive, albeit only to be had when there is nothing else, and it is not tainted with chocolate.

http://skepticink.com/justinvacula/2012 ... the-shelf/

My guest posters don't utter ridiculous statements concerning AIDS/HIV.

sacha wrote:

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:

Michael J wrote:Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

They have already accused him of being a sexist, misogynistic pig, and they had numerous hysterics over much of his politics, and his stance on the Iraq war. I'm sure they also hate his unapologetic scathing criticism of "Political Correctness"

I'm sure many of them also hate him for being the antithesis of their brand of Social Justice Warrior,
and of course Hitch is everything that PZ is not.

Hitch would have (did?) consider him an insecure, insignificant coward.

I love when they go after Hitch, I wish they would do it more often. I want their contempt of him to be crystal clear. Then they can be mocked relentlessly every time they use one of his quotes to support their ideology, every time they mention him as having been a respected leader for atheism, every time they even think he was one of them.

I want everyone to know he stood for everything they abhor.

I'd be thrilled if they consider him to have been an enemy.

Hitch was so opposed to the kind of group-think, totalitarian bullshit the double-plus'ers are all about. He never would have supported it, and would have ridiculed it mercilessly if he could be bothered to dignify it with a response. The man who said Orwell might have been his hero, if he had heroes, would have a thing or two to say about their methods and their batshit ideology. He loved women for their strength, not for their suitability as victims. I wish he were still with us.

justinvacula wrote:http://skepticink.com/justinvacula/2012 ... the-shelf/

My guest posters don't utter ridiculous statements concerning AIDS/HIV.

Then you need to get a lower class of posters.

Duh!

Git wrote:
Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

http://www.thechocolatereview.net/wp-co ... iscuit.jpg

From my blog today,

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People like PZ Myers, who recently compared those who don’t agree with him and his minion’s somewhat enigmatic and non-dictionary definitions of atheism, misogyny and a particularly toxic version of feminism, to the mass murderer Marc Lépine. Or the utterly ridiculous, mean-spirited, theistically styled, militant zealous crowd over at the Atheism+ forum who seem to hate everyone and often eat their own. But I digress…

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As far as my references earlier to PZ Myers, if you are not aware of the rift between a handful of he and a few other bloggers (along with a fair amount of minions, supporters and such) and pretty much the rest of the planet, you can get a good idea of what has been transpiring over the last couple of years by visiting a forum called 'The Slymepit," which has cataloged the goings-on for the past couple of years. If you're offended by some foul language, off-color humor and graphic art, unabridged commentary and swarthy humor, then don't bother.

I can tell you this, though. If you've been brainwashed into thinking the place is full of misogynist, rape-loving, racist haters of equality and human rights, you'd be wrong. I made the choice to check it out for myself, and over three hundred posts later, I've found none of what I was told to be anywhere near accurate. In fact, the majority there stand fully in favor of equal rights for everyone, have spoken out loudly and often against rape and consist of a cross-section of humanity from all races, genders, sexual preferences, faiths and non-faith and nationalities.

The choice is yours, though. As it always is. If you choose to look for yourself, go here:

http://www.alstefanelli.com/Slymepit.jpg

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Read the whole thing HERE

Biscuits...

Coffee:

I have a Saeco machine, it grinds fresh dark roast arabica beans, brews the coffee..and has a milk steamer for those times the guests want a Latte.

My fave Biccy

http://www.miconnational.com.au/picture ... %20600.jpg

also comes with dark chocolate

Tea:

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Lemon Crisp come lightly salted...the combo is devine with tea (Russian Caravan, long brewed, a little milk and one and a bit sugars)

bhoytony wrote:

Git wrote:
Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

http://www.thechocolatereview.net/wp-co ... iscuit.jpg

Fuck yeah! Another thing I like about Tunnocks is that they don't appear to have changed their branding or packaging since the 1950s. Not just a biscuit, but a gosh darn time machine too.

Tigzy wrote:

bhoytony wrote:

Git wrote:
Heretic. These is only one biscuit:

Fuck yeah! Another thing I like about Tunnocks is that they don't appear to have changed their branding or packaging since the 1950s. Not just a biscuit, but a gosh darn time machine too.

http://www.thegreatbritishdiet.co.uk/Im ... %20(8).JPG

Tunnock are nom. And then there is the king of cakes:

http://www.jaffacakes.net/images/jaffa-cakes.jpg

Steersman wrote:Maybe somewhat unfortunate, depending on your point of view, that women’s “secondary sexual characteristics” are generally so obvious; maybe Ms. Lewis would like to see more men wearing codpieces – I expect Scented could work-up a line of SlymePit approved knitted versions for the next TAM – likely to provide “stiff” competition – depending on the models used, of course – for Amy’s schlock.

I don't knit. Wouldn't know how to with a gun to my head. Best I could do would be a needlepoint picture of an erect cock, I mean a codpiece, as my contribution to the ambience. Tastefully posed, of course.

So, this maroon first says I had being wolf-whistled by women wearing a kilt coming to me, then accuses me of victim blaming.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8198/8282 ... 114989.jpg

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I feel dumber just having had a conversation with this twit.

Retro biccies? BOOOM! Fox's party rings.

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Fucking awful biscuits.

I see you the Party Rings and raise you:

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China: Man arrested after rampage in a school:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-18/m ... ks/4432992

Hey, I got married in a kilt! It's not like I have any closer affinity to anyone who would naturally wear a tux. I don't know how this is cultural appropriation in any way... appreciation maybe. It's not like I was earning money from it (quite the opposite actually). She really is a twit.

[quote="Git"]I see you the Party Rings and raise you:

Nice. Buttery biccies are excellent for teh dunkin.

This is what's really happening...

http://www.terrorweekend.com/2012/07/ra ... eview.html

Original title: Reipu Zonbi: Lust of the Dead

Year: 2012 Duration: 73 min. Country: Japan Director: Naoyuki Tomomatsu Writer: Naoyuki Tomomatsu, Jiro Ishikawa Photo: Tamiya Takehiko Cast: Aikawa Yui, Kazuyoshi Akishima, Asami, Norman England, Hiroshi Fujita, Fukuten, Haruna, Yukihiro Haruzono, Hiroshi Hatakeyama, Yuria Hidaka, Ryoichi Inaba, Hideo Jojo, Hidetoshi Kageyama, Amu Kamika, Hiroyuki Kaneko

RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE!
Men, women, zombies and collards. zombies Our dear friends ... with them and we've seen them all types and colors, or so we thought. And if I tell you all these loved ones do not bite or tear limbs, those things are for the most classic. 2012 now fully engaged modern zombies to rape, yes, to rape women. We face the new generaZion of putrid. Besides these zombies are more specific, only affects men, and funny way of killing is his ejaculation-venomous attack suffered by females. The end of humanity as we know it has arrived. All men of the world are becoming zombies. Government authorities around the globe do not reach a conclusion about what is happening and all specialists are debated each other may be a virus or simply is the logical evolution of man. The only certainty in all this is that men have reached a point that can not contain his alpha male testosterone and need to expel all they contain. But a group of explosive women, who are "well armed" are not willing to be raped by these particular men. Welcome to the new world where men roam poison!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b2npNgTyKUg/U ... poster.jpg

AndrewV69 wrote:

Steersman wrote:Politics and strange bedfellows …. You are, of course, entitled to do whatever you want in that regard and I tend to be somewhat sympathetic to accommodationist stances. But also I tend to draw the line with dogmatists in general, religious-literalist ones in particular. Somewhat apropos, I happened to run across a relevant factoid in that Pew Forum report I just quoted from:

Jehovah's Witnesses have the lowest retention rate of any religious tradition. Only 37% of all those who say they were raised as Jehovah's Witnesses still identify themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses.

As a MRA, I am gathering support for the MRM wherever I can find it.

More power to you. Apropos of which, you might be interested in this recent post from A Voice for Men which, I’m pleased to see, is finally getting around to doing something for which I may be able to take some small amount of credit, i.e., doing some self-policing of the whackos in the MRM. Maybe that is somewhat of a "new leaf" for them, although I think they may have deleted some particularly egregious comments from some out-to-lunch MRAs in that thread in which I made that suggestion. But a salient quote:

One of the many, many differences between the MRM and feminism is our willingness to self-police. We don’t have to do an inordinate amount of it. A stupid, violent comment here, and thoughtless, hateful post there; all wiped away with the user invited to speak anywhere but here.

Although some of Elam’s previous comments are rather questionable in that regard, some of which David Futrelle of Man Boobz is attempting to recycle [maybe running out of material]. But as Elam suggests at the end, I think it would help things greatly if some of the more doctrinaire and dogmatic feminists with, arguably, at least some claim to sanity – Myers, Benson & Zvan – would do the same about those feminists in their ranks with even less claim to that state.

In case you have missed it, a certain meme is busily engaged in attempting a takeover over of the Secular/Aethism movement.

No?! Really? The pod-people, you say? Hadn’t noticed that, at all. ;-)

From what I see very few in the community are actually engaged in resisting despite the out there for all to see bat shit lunacy of some of the proponents.

Which community? The ones who aren’t “actually engaged in resisting”? The pen is mightier than the sword, you know ….

In any event, I will gather allies wherever I may find them.

Fine. Although you might want to reflect on the aphorism about clasping vipers to one’s breast. For instance, more than a few have argued that Islam is totally antithetical to the principles of democracy, and some branches of Christianity aren’t far behind on that score.

Steersman wrote: But while it is quite true that many women advertise their wares – which I generally have no problem with; never pass up gratuitous titilation – it seems that more than a few “men” – I use the term loosely – are rather boorish, to say the least, about the phenomenon even where such intent is not present. For instance you might want to take a look at a post by Ophelia Benson on quite odious levels of sexual harassment as described in a documentary. A salient quote or two:

When Sofie Peeters moved to Brussels for a film degree, she found herself confronted with a depressing problem almost every time she left her front door. Walking around her local neighbourhood, the mixed, working-class district of Anneessens, at any time of day she would be greeted with cat-calls, wolf-whistles and jeers of “slag” and “how much do you cost?”

That's a very interesting point, it's the first time I've heard of a documented case of cat-calls and wolf-whistles. That's got to be extremely annoying for Sofie or any other woman subjected to that.

I don't think fines are the answer, not because I don't think this kind of harassment should be stopped, but because it's a very strange psychological phenomenon that should be better understood.

What are these men expecting to get from that? I find it hard to believe that they expect a woman to feel attracted to them or to answer their whistles positively. Is it a desire to look more "macho" in front of their friends? A desire to embarrass her, maybe to take away her "sexual power"? Something else entirely?

The human mind is very complex, but I think that understanding the underlying causes of this kind of harassment would do more towards changing the behavior than instituting fines.

Al Stefanelli wrote:
*blogwhore*

Great post Al. I left a windbag comment for you! :)