Periodic Table of Swearing

[CommanderTuvok]

You know when the Baboons are rattled because they start churning out blog posters by the dozen. PZ and Ophelia are particulary butt-hurt over Shermer's pwnage.

Funny how Ophelia cherry-picks Shermer's use of the term "witch hunt". I seem to remember Ophelia using comparing TAM to Nazi Germany. I'm sure there's loads more example of her hypocrisy.

[AndrewV69]

MRA Community Outreach Progress Report:

I just scored a big one with my Jehovah Witness couple...

*Sigh* I just came home from having dinner at my sister's place. She's a JW. The same with everyone else she invited. Seriously, I fucking hate when they start trying to "witness" to me...

By the way, my rant is essentially unrelated to your association with these folk. It was just that the mention of Jehovah's Witnesses set me off since my most recent encounter was still fresh as fuck.

All I have to say is that I appear to have been particularly lucky with the religous folk I have interacted with my whole life.

[rayshul]

Witch is a misogynistic term.

Can I put that on a bingo card?

[Skep tickle]

Ophelia is again writing about the Michael Shermer debacle

I re-read some of Michael Shermer’s Why People Believe Weird Things this morning, to refresh my memory. I’ve read that and Why We Believe and the odd article here and there. I’ve never liked his writing much. It’s not bad, but it’s a little loose and lazy. Characterless. Journalistic.

Yeah, crappy book. Only sold like hundreds of thousands of copies. Was so successful the first go-round the publisher invested in re-releasing it. But its total shit. It had ZERO chapters on dog nudity or dog penii. ZERO. Pffffff 'journalistic' at BEST*.

All those assholes do is rip down people who are more talented and more successful than themselves.

LOSERS.


* Journalistic is an insult? Wat?

Perhaps Ophelia, being as fair and equitable as she always is, will next critique Laden's recent self-published book, then move on to PZ's upcoming one. (Surely PZ would share his final draft with her.)

She can share quotes from each to support her presumably inevitable claim that Laden's & Myers' tomes are so much more marvelous - tighter and less lazy - than anything Shermer has written.

Though to make that claim she'd have to read all 12 of Shermer's books, and her lips might get all tuckered out.

[KiwiInOz]

The salt in the wound is the passion that assumes people like me even remotely give a fuck. Make your own thread and fuck off. All of you, pro- and anti-.

It's always all about you, isn't it franc.

:whistle:

[Michael J]

Regarding Noel Plum's vid:

Obviously a lot of the obsession with invented "threats" and cleansing has to do will culling undesirables from conferences, which is all about protecting the standing of the status quo of the same goddamned incestuous clique of speakers that make every major skeptical conference an exercise in deja vu.

Australia banned automatic weapons about 15 years ago after a massacre in Tasmania. We haven't had a major massacre since. Yes you can get a weapon if you know where to look but the only bad guys that seem to have guns are Bikies and Mobsters who tend to shoot each other. The guy breaking into your house or robbing the local 7-11 tends to be unarmed.

Australia also has a population of only 22 million people most of which are Australians, who tend to be big pussies.

:whistle:

Both statements are as dumb as each other. For all the talk of skepticism being applied to feminism, I wonder how much the gun freaks would like genuine skepticism applied to their tried and tested "haha! gotcha!" proclamations. That goes double for the numbskulls in the prohibitionist camp. I mean really, some of the nonsense posted here... This was a cracker, using Puerto Rico as some kind of example justifying gun ownership. Yeah right. Puerto Rico and downtown Manhattan are identical in every aspect...

There is ZERO chance of a rational discussion EVER happening on this topic, let alone even handed skepticism. The salt in the wound is the passion that assumes people like me even remotely give a fuck. Make your own thread and fuck off. All of you, pro- and anti-.

Puerto Rico?

[Steersman]

Though I must add that I have a ton of skepticism of these 'studies' that link aggression to videogames/whatever other media. Videogames are becoming more and more popular everyday, and yet crime is on the decline? The question I would pose is, does the culture created the media, or does the media create the culture? My hunch is that it is the former, not the latter, though the media certainly add to it.

Relative to the culture / media symbiosis I would say it's a question of feedback. But skepticism is probably entirely warranted on the topic:

The most recent large scale meta-analysis, examining 130 studies with over 130,000 subjects worldwide, concluded that exposure to violent video games causes both short term and long term aggression in players and decreases empathy and prosocial behavior. However, this meta-analysis was severely criticized in the same issue of the same journal for a number of methodological flaws, including failure to distinguish clinically valid from unstandardized aggression measures and for failing to solicit studies from researchers who have questioned whether causal links exist, thus biasing the sample of included studies.

But I wonder. Maybe it’s like the argument that there’s no link whatsoever between people going off the deep-end and the abuse of various psycho-tropic drugs. Nor any links between cancer and smoking or between climate change and anthropogenic greenhouse gases. Nor between the purveyors or producers of those entirely hypothetical causes and the “consequences” that so many “scientific” studies prove don’t follow from those entirely hypothetical causes.

I’m not arguing or suggesting that going out and shooting up the local kindergarten necessarily follows from playing Mario Bros. The same way it doesn’t necessarily follow that having a beer leads inexorably to being a bum on Skid Row, or smoking a joint one day causes mainlining heroin the next, or smoking for a year causes lung cancer the next. But it seems just a little disingenuous to suggest that for some people, depending on their own idiosyncratic physiology and psychology along with the degree of repetition, those causes aren’t the deciding or substantial contributing factors in tipping people from one state into the next.

Really very problematic, I think, that so many people, even supposed skeptics, seem to think in black and white terms, that a factor has to be categorically present or absent in all cases to be accepted as a factor in any case. I don’t remember precisely where I saw this, although it was in the context of the recent discussions on evolutionary psychology and Rebecca Watson’s abortive forays into it, but there was some pharmocologist who was pointing out the tremendous degree of variance in the responses to various drugs which apparently tends to make drug testing so difficult: a dose that might have no effect on one individual can wind up killing another. I very much expect that violent video games can have similar effects.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

A gun once bit my sister...

[Skep tickle]

Both statements are as dumb as each other. For all the talk of skepticism being applied to feminism, I wonder how much the gun freaks would like genuine skepticism applied to their tried and tested "haha! gotcha!" proclamations. That goes double for the numbskulls in the prohibitionist camp. I mean really, some of the nonsense posted here... This was a cracker, using Puerto Rico as some kind of example justifying gun ownership. Yeah right. Puerto Rico and downtown Manhattan are identical in every aspect...

There is ZERO chance of a rational discussion EVER happening on this topic, let alone even handed skepticism. The salt in the wound is the passion that assumes people like me even remotely give a fuck. Make your own thread and fuck off. All of you, pro- and anti-.

Puerto Rico?

http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/search.ph ... uerto+rico

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the gun
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink".

[Michael J]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

[Reap]

Reap, I'm waiting for your call, bitch! I'm not staying up past 11PM EST (okay midnight).

Anyone else who wants to call (Skype ID: buddhaglass) while I'm waiting, feel free.


DAMN THAT DANCING TURD!

FYI this is not a intelligent nor effective way of gaining attention or a phone call from me.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Reap, I'm not waiting for your call, bitch! Because first I'd have to change my landline phone to get better sound quality (I suspect the one I have right now might have been instrumental in breaking the ENIGMA code during WWII).

[Skep tickle]

Someone at Pharyngula linked to a news story saying a 6 yr old had played dead & was the only survivor of the Sandy Hook shooting, & there's some discussion there about how a pastor is playing it up as a miracle.

All the reports I'm finding track back to the same ABC news clipwith an interview with pastor Jim Solomon who is said to be counseling the girl's mother.

The pastor says she was the first one to run out of the building, covered in blood, and the first thing she said was "Mommy, I'm okay but all my friends are dead." He goes on to the inevitable attribution of divine intervention (in this case, giving her wisdom to know to play dead & thus survived, apparently rather than providing any sort of direct aid including putting a stop to the entire situation).

The TV reporter calls it "just an incredible story" and call me skeptical but I think she should have gone with that sense and done some more investigation.

I don't recall any reports before this that there was a child who survived in one of the classrooms where the shootings occurred, nor that any child ran out of the building covered in blood. I haven't watched much video of it, but it looked like the kids were brought out fairly methodically holding hands in lines. I read that they were reunited 1 by 1 with their parents in a nearby fire station (each child matched with their parents so it was clear which kids were there & which weren't). I read that the dead were each shot multiple times, including often in the head (making "playing dead" a potentially less effective approach than it might be in another situation).

And, as above, I don't find any independent source at this point verifying such a survivor. Could this pastor, or the woman he says he's counseling (from whom he got the story), be lying, stretching the truth, or delusional?

[Skep tickle]

... Could this pastor, or the woman he says he's counseling (from whom he got the story), be lying, stretching the truth, or delusional?

Well duh, don't know why I bothered phrasing that as a question, obviously the answer is "yes". Apparently it's getting late & my brain is turning to mush.

On another note, the Slyme Pit is now up to 399 members.

[Reap]

So, I take it he's not going to be on your podcast? I (honestly) would have loved to hear him try to explain himself somewhere where he can't control the editing or banning. Would he have tried to ban you from your own podcast?

I honestly was going to allow him to present his side- He said "I have no idea what we would talk about " and then blocked me on twitter. How spineless and hollow can you get than to decline an invite to give your side so that people will understand exactly where you are coming from?

[Reap]

Here's a nice podcast in case ur interested
http://reapsowradio.com/graphics/old-wo ... cabinb.jpg

[Michael J]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

I'm sure there could be something in his writings that could be interpreted the wrong way. All it needs is for a blogger to quote it approvingly. He was unpopular with some people because of his anti Islam stance.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

I'm sure there could be something in his writings that could be interpreted the wrong way. All it needs is for a blogger to quote it approvingly. He was unpopular with some people because of his anti Islam stance.

A few of his writtings (most especialy in Hitch 22) would have the Baboons shiting all over the curtains.

[Spence]

One thing about Greg Laden's idiocy: he brings harmony to the slyme pit. There may be quite wide and diverse views on gun control, but one thing we can all agree on: Laden is the lowest form of life on this planet. Even pond scum spit on him.

Nah, even with a big splash of hyperbole I wouldn't call him the lowest form of life on this planet.

(Particularly given my biological bent & thus a different understanding of "lowest" and "form of life" with regard to life on this planet. But also because his limitations, however apparent, don't warrant it.)

Nooo! Next you'll be telling me Greg isn't literally and biologically speaking female genitalia. You spoil all my fun.

I bet you tell kids santa isn't real as well ;) :lol:

[TedDahlberg]

On another note, the Slyme Pit is now up to 399 members.

399 problems but a bitch ain't one.

[Reap]

Kudos to Pitchguest for the tireless work of explaining the obvious to the oblivious on the youtube vid.

[Spence]

BTW, if some deranged psycho steals Laden's car and drives it into a crowd of people at high speed, would that make Laden a murderer, by his own logic? (Assuming Laden has a car of course. If not, replace "car" with "trailer". We knows he has one of those)

Yes, he does have a car. In fact, here it is, pictured with a couple of his trailer mates...

http://www.automopedia.org/wp-content/u ... ck-car.jpg

Ha! Can you even begin to imagine the level of self-loathing that would take place?

[TedDahlberg]

I bet you tell kids santa isn't real as well ;) :lol:

What!? http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w336 ... talgia.gif

[Pinker]

Not two days after a re-posting of "da roolz", intended to make Jerry Coyne's website a place to civilized exchange of ideas, one of PZ's regulars displays the usual unreflective, reflexive disregard.

Jerry's comment about unnecessary name-calling would be considered "tone trolling" on phayrngula.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I like Jerry's place. I managed to have normal conversation with some baboons there. Even after EG!

His castle, his roolz, and good roolz they are.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Also, these days Listverse sucks more than your average pornstar.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10- ... -religion/

http://listverse.com/2012/12/16/10-ways ... ver-women/

Is there some kind of virus out there?

[Dick Strawkins]

Perhaps Ophelia, being as fair and equitable as she always is, will next critique Laden's recent self-published book, then move on to PZ's upcoming one. (Surely PZ would share his final draft with her.)

She can share quotes from each to support her presumably inevitable claim that Laden's & Myers' tomes are so much more marvelous - tighter and less lazy - than anything Shermer has written.

Though to make that claim she'd have to read all 12 of Shermer's books, and her lips might get all tuckered out.

A few days ago Ophelia was lamenting that she doesn't get to converse with many of her old big name secular friends any more. At least not like the old days. I remember a few years back there was much more cross-posting on different skeptical/atheisitic sites. Ophelia would often be able to expand up a comment from the like of Russell Blackford or Jerry Coyne to spark up an interesting and positive line of conversation. Now all the non-FTB big name skeptics avoid Butterflies and Wheels and Ophelia doesn't often comment outside her own sheltered domain. She still gets plenty of views and comments, however, it's just that they now come exclusively from a self selected and self policed militia of FTB-youth.
Nowadays she's stuck with mean-spirited sycophants like Brownian to illuminate her day and become the fodder for her posts.
Well, that and sniping at Justin Vacula.
And yet she still wonders what happened.

[Dick Strawkins]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

They haven't, as far as I'm aware, gone after Dan Dennett.
Jerry Coyne has been in their sights for a while (guilt by association - he's friends with Dawkins and Abbie!) but I'm pretty sure he knows this and is careful enough not to give them ammunition. I think even some of the FTB regular commenters realize that WEIT is about the only place left where people can comment on topics on a neutral ground without the schism butting into the conversation.

[Scented Nectar]

Those patterns are teh awesome! I might try one in cross-stitch first, since I have the cloth and embroidery floss already. Thanks so much for sharing them!

I knit, crochet, embroider, and needlepoint, which I'm sure says something very, very bad about me. I'm already a gender traitor and sister punisher, so all the needlework must mean that I'm somehow misogynist and repressive. Or something.

Thanks! :)

I don't know why they freak that mostly it's women who do needlepoint. You'd almost think the patterns we do say "home, sweet barefoot in the kitchen, home."

[Gumby]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

They haven't, as far as I'm aware, gone after Dan Dennett.
Jerry Coyne has been in their sights for a while (guilt by association - he's friends with Dawkins and Abbie!) but I'm pretty sure he knows this and is careful enough not to give them ammunition. I think even some of the FTB regular commenters realize that WEIT is about the only place left where people can comment on topics on a neutral ground without the schism butting into the conversation.

And that's why Peezus's lapdog Ichthyic flounced from Coyne's CT shooting thread after calling someone a jerk and having Coyne remind him of the "no insults" rule, calling Coyne's commenting policy "hypocritical" and "unevenly applied". They simply can't handle discussion anywhere where they are not allowed to run all over the conversation, insulting and bullying people at will and making it all about them.

[Scented Nectar]

Thanks! There's probably lots of sites that will teach you the basics, plus if you need supplies, there is a place I'm going to try getting supplies from next time I do one, and that's
http://www.herrschners.com/default.aspx (US site)
http://www.herrschners.ca/dept/crosssti ... ework.aspx (Canadian site)

Here's a guide to what size canvases (eg; 18 means there are 18 stitches to the inch), go with what size flosses/yarn (how many strands thick they are), and what size needles they go with:

Canvas Size___Strands in Yarn or Floss________Needle Size
12____________8 to 10 floss or perle size 3____18
14____________6 to 9 floss or perle size 3_____20 or 22
16____________4 to 7 floss or perle size 5_____22
18____________3 to 5 floss or perle size 5_____22 or 24
22____________3 or 4 floss or perle size 8_____24 or 26
24____________2 or 3 floss or perle size 8_____26

I break the rules a bit and prefer an 18 canvas with 6 strand embroidery thread for needlepoint (petitpoint since it's smaller than ordinary needlepoint). It ends up a tightish fit, but never leaves any spots where the canvas can be seen through. I'm supposed to be using 16 size canvas, but oh well.

As for the basics on how to needlepoint, I'm sure there are sites online that teach it, but I've not gone looking. Both needlepoint and cross-stitch are easy to learn. I prefer needlepoint as it needs only half the work compared to cross-stitch (where each stitch is a double one).

I think it's time for you to do your part to combat sexism! You must open a school to teach needlepoint and only allow men to enroll. We have a lawyer here somewhere who will assist you should any women feel hard done by and sue you.

Noooooooooooo, I'm recently retired. No more work from now on. Just fun things that look like work, like making patterns.

Actually, if any group or individual would like a pattern made for their favourite mottos, insignias, pet pics, or whatever, just let me know. I just need a starting pic. Making patterns keeps me off the streets and out of trouble. :)

[Scented Nectar]

[quote="peterb"][/quote]
Oh dear. You realize, don't you, that if the feminists see you men having fun with needlepoint, it will switch from being a "pushed", unwanted gender role, to become "The menz stole it from us! Oppression!"

[Scented Nectar]

Oops, let me try that again:

Finally an opportunity for a worthwhile contribution. I look forward to my new client: The Scenty Needlepoint School for Men

Oh dear. You realize, don't you, that if the feminists see you men having fun with needlepoint, it will switch from being a "pushed", unwanted gender role, to become "The menz stole it from us! Oppression!"

[Scented Nectar]

Btw, it's quite funny that Ophelia brings up the SRA madness from the 80s/90s, considering that much of it, at least here in Sweden, were a result of radical feminists going bat shit insane. Even quite recently, there were Swedish "elite feminists", high up with powerful political connections, that believe that the satanic cults, with rich and powerful men, were or had conducted ritualistic child sacrifices and pedophilia...
The documentary "Könskriget" (the Gender war) was made 2005, and highlighted among other things, this issue. Here's a short clip from the first part, where the main topic was the case of a women being "rescued" from these Satanist cults by the women network "Bellas Vänner" (Bella's Freinds), which turned really ugly and the women was more or less abused by her feminist rescuers.

The one at first 40 sec, who acts like a true conspiracy theory nutjob, is Ireen von Wachenfeldt, which at the time was the chairman for the Swedish National Women Shelter Organization (ROKS):
(youtube)
Later on in the documentary she went on to quote Valeri Solanas' Scum with "men are animals", something she had to apologize for in national media... only to a while later take it back, explaining that "I should've said that men are worse than animals".

Last 1½-2 mins is Gunilla Ekberg, at the time working at Sweden’s Ministry of Industry as an expert on prostitution, which in the end explains that the woman making the documentary should not expect to receive any help at a women shelters, since she's a (gender) traitor.

Here's the full documentary in case anyone's interested. Quite appalling:

[youtube]yn3cHsHnUPM[/youtube]

[mikelf]

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

I'm sure there could be something in his writings that could be interpreted the wrong way. All it needs is for a blogger to quote it approvingly. He was unpopular with some people because of his anti Islam stance.

A few of his writtings (most especialy in Hitch 22) would have the Baboons shiting all over the curtains.

I think it is more likely that they would claim him as one of their own. Not unlike creationists do with famous evolutionists (Darwin, Gould, etc.) They could even create a deathbed conversion mythology. A Xir Hope story, if you will.

[Scented Nectar]

I see a lot of familiar names on this forum, and I understand it has something to do with kicking the shit out of the hideous tumor that is Peezus, Twatson, FtB, and A+.

If that's the case then count me in.

Welcome! Just don't try the coffee - it's awful.

I'm taking over the coffee arrangement. No more bad coffee. We need to have the real thing: Decadent, delicious, dark roast, and 'ddictive! From whole roasted beans to whole cups, here it is.

[youtube]kU6VtX_GKsU[/youtube]

Seriously, try this and you'll never go back to your old way of making coffee. Better than anything you can get at Starbucks or The Second Cup.

[Dick Strawkins]

Also, these days Listverse sucks more than your average pornstar.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10- ... -religion/

http://listverse.com/2012/12/16/10-ways ... ver-women/

Is there some kind of virus out there?

I didn't see anything to complain about with the 'women' list - things were pretty crappy for women a few centuries ago (that doesn't meant things were great for men at the time but the issues on the list do seem to be accurate.)

The religion list, however, looks like it was written by the Discovery Institute. It's absolute anti-scientific nonsense written by someone who, despite claiming they have a PhD in neuroscience, seems to have less actual knowledge of science than Rebecca Watson.

[AnonymousCowherd]

On another note, the Slyme Pit is now up to 399 members.

Not only that, but this thread is zooming in on a million page views (992,069 atm).

[TedDahlberg]

Reap, I'm not waiting for your call, bitch! Because first I'd have to change my landline phone to get better sound quality (I suspect the one I have right now might have been instrumental in breaking the ENIGMA code during WWII).

I was watching an episode of QI last night, and how after the war the British kept their breaking of the code secret. They apparently gathered as many Enigma machines as they could and sold them to friendly countries telling them that the Germans swore by them. And were then able to spy on those countries.

[Michael J]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

They haven't, as far as I'm aware, gone after Dan Dennett.
Jerry Coyne has been in their sights for a while (guilt by association - he's friends with Dawkins and Abbie!) but I'm pretty sure he knows this and is careful enough not to give them ammunition. I think even some of the FTB regular commenters realize that WEIT is about the only place left where people can comment on topics on a neutral ground without the schism butting into the conversation.

Dan Dennett as an old white guy must be in their sites and Jerry is bound to make a slip up somewhere.

[sacha]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

Just waiting for them to posthumously attack The Hitch. Then there will be real trouble...

They have already accused him of being a sexist, misogynistic pig, and they had numerous hysterics over much of his politics, and his stance on the Iraq war. I'm sure they also hate his unapologetic scathing criticism of "Political Correctness"

I'm sure many of them also hate him for being the antithesis of their brand of Social Justice Warrior,
and of course Hitch is everything that PZ is not.

Hitch would have (did?) consider him an insecure, insignificant coward.

I love when they go after Hitch, I wish they would do it more often. I want their contempt of him to be crystal clear. Then they can be mocked relentlessly every time they use one of his quotes to support their ideology, every time they mention him as having been a respected leader for atheism, every time they even think he was one of them.

I want everyone to know he stood for everything they abhor.

I'd be thrilled if they consider him to have been an enemy.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Also, these days Listverse sucks more than your average pornstar.

http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10- ... -religion/

http://listverse.com/2012/12/16/10-ways ... ver-women/

Is there some kind of virus out there?

I didn't see anything to complain about with the 'women' list - things were pretty crappy for women a few centuries ago (that doesn't meant things were great for men at the time but the issues on the list do seem to be accurate.)

The religion list, however, looks like it was written by the Discovery Institute. It's absolute anti-scientific nonsense written by someone who, despite claiming they have a PhD in neuroscience, seems to have less actual knowledge of science than Rebecca Watson.

Nay nay nay! The Women list was fine. The comments, on the other hand...

[Dick Strawkins]

Now they have gone after Shermer are there any famous skeptics left?

They haven't, as far as I'm aware, gone after Dan Dennett.
Jerry Coyne has been in their sights for a while (guilt by association - he's friends with Dawkins and Abbie!) but I'm pretty sure he knows this and is careful enough not to give them ammunition. I think even some of the FTB regular commenters realize that WEIT is about the only place left where people can comment on topics on a neutral ground without the schism butting into the conversation.

Dan Dennett as an old white guy must be in their sites and Jerry is bound to make a slip up somewhere.

I'm not so sure. Once you know that they are desperate to catch a slip-up it isn't so hard to avoid their arrows. Well, so long as you aren't Justin Vacula, I guess (seriously Justin, do some proof reading before you post anything - they love criticizing you as a stand-in representative of Skeptic Ink. Absolutely everything you do online is being constantly checked by them.)

[AnonymousCowherd]

No worries. The 'Slime' reference threw me off, too.

Oh, I'm sure the reference was entirely accidental. I mean suggesting we are all Schroedinger Spree killers is one thing, but tarring us as Baptists? No-o-o-o-o! The huge Svanity!

[Dick Strawkins]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blackskepti ... ss-murder/

Oh dear...
Sikivu's gone a bit over the top with this one.

The senseless slaughter of children from the “perfect” town may finally prompt serious bipartisan legislation to curb the barbaric gun lobby. But it will not prompt analysis of the violent masculinity at the heart of whiteness.

[sacha]

By the way, I have a few people in IT here (San Francisco) asking around, and looking into Hackbright "Academy"

So far no one I've spoken to has heard of it, and can't imagine anyone in SF hiring someone with no experience who has taken a 10 week non-acredited "training program". Women in IT are not scarce here, so there is no reason to hire based on gender alone, and competition for open positions in IT is fierce.

After doing some more research, the only articles and mentions I found are so dripping with elaborate praise, my skeptic radar is on high alert. In addition, the exact same article was reprinted by a few different blogs, news organisations, and tech websites, and almost every mention that is not a carbon copy of at least part of that article, are in websites specifically for women with a pro-feminist slant, and every one I saw, uses the term "brogrammer culture".

and not surprisingly that article making the rounds was picked up by the Huff Po:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/women-20/ ... 60620.html

[AnonymousCowherd]

Seriously, try this and you'll never go back to your old way of making coffee. Better than anything you can get at Starbucks or The Second Cup.

You put sugar in coffee. What next? Cardamon pods?

The terrorists have won.

[codelette]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blackskepti ... ss-murder/

Oh dear...
Sikivu's gone a bit over the top with this one.

The senseless slaughter of children from the “perfect” town may finally prompt serious bipartisan legislation to curb the barbaric gun lobby. But it will not prompt analysis of the violent masculinity at the heart of whiteness.

This guy doesn't count...cause he was a "sniper" with a sidekick...
http://www.biography.com/imported/image ... -1-402.jpg
(John Allen Muhammad)

She doesn't count (cause she used her car...plus she's a woman. and black)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com ... eno-nv.jpg
(Priscilla Joyce Ford)

She doesn't count, because "vagina" and shit...
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(Brenda Ann Spencer)

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

<------ he doesn't count because he has never killed anyone. Nor does he feel inclined to.

But he seems to be male and whiteish. So, guilty as charged?

[codelette]

I mean really, some of the nonsense posted here... This was a cracker, using Puerto Rico as some kind of example justifying gun ownership. Yeah right. Puerto Rico and downtown Manhattan are identical in every aspect...

There is ZERO chance of a rational discussion EVER happening on this topic, let alone even handed skepticism. The salt in the wound is the passion that assumes people like me even remotely give a fuck. Make your own thread and fuck off. All of you, pro- and anti-.

Who's the cracker? Me or Jack Rayner?

[Dick Strawkins]

I mean really, some of the nonsense posted here... This was a cracker, using Puerto Rico as some kind of example justifying gun ownership. Yeah right. Puerto Rico and downtown Manhattan are identical in every aspect...

There is ZERO chance of a rational discussion EVER happening on this topic, let alone even handed skepticism. The salt in the wound is the passion that assumes people like me even remotely give a fuck. Make your own thread and fuck off. All of you, pro- and anti-.

Who's the cracker? Me or Jack Rayner?

I thought he used "cracker" as meaning 'a joke' rather than, you know, 'a honky redneck type'.

[Scented Nectar]

Seriously, try this and you'll never go back to your old way of making coffee. Better than anything you can get at Starbucks or The Second Cup.

You put sugar in coffee. What next? Cardamon pods?

The terrorists have won.

Oh, you're not going to tell me that you put milk or cream in yours, are you? Cuz that's just gross. :)

[codelette]

You know, I lived in Puerto Rico and NYC, and yes...despite climate they're are a lot of similarities (specially in the San Juan Metro area). Maybe it is cause NYC have a high percentage of Ricans living there; generations since the late 1800s. Maybe it is because a lot of these families move back and forth. Maybe it is because these families hold on to the culture as if their lives depended on it. So yeah, there is a lot in common between Puerto Rico and Downtown Manhattan. There are also a lot of similarities between Puerto Rico and Orlando, Florida. Same reasons as with NYC.

[AnonymousCowherd]

Seriously, try this and you'll never go back to your old way of making coffee. Better than anything you can get at Starbucks or The Second Cup.

You put sugar in coffee. What next? Cardamon pods?

The terrorists have won.

Oh, you're not going to tell me that you put milk or cream in yours, are you? Cuz that's just gross. :)

Loathe and detest both milk and cream anywhere. A shot of brandy or grappa beside the coffee is as close as I go to interfering with it.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Loathe and detest both milk and cream anywhere.

This makes me hate you.

A shot of brandy or grappa beside the coffee is as close as I go to interfering with it.

And this restores the balance in the Force. Well played...

[acathode]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blackskepti ... ss-murder/

Oh dear...
Sikivu's gone a bit over the top with this one.

The senseless slaughter of children from the “perfect” town may finally prompt serious bipartisan legislation to curb the barbaric gun lobby. But it will not prompt analysis of the violent masculinity at the heart of whiteness.

Wow, that's pretty fucking racist! It's hard to top accusing Dawkins, Harris and Dennett for being white supremacists, but yeah, if you're going for it, coming out as a actual racist would probably be the way.

Just imagine if Shermed had written:
But it will not prompt analysis of the violent masculinity at the heart of blackness.

He'd be skewered and flayed alive and then roasted over a open fire, and rightfully so!

I've actually seen white supremacists make almost the exact same thing as the bolded part, word for word, except "masculinity", about "niggers" and "sand niggers".

Honestly though, ignoring for a second that this is pure racism, and instead apply skepticism and science to this claim... and what do we get? Statistically, the countries in the western, "white", world are probably some of the least violent and most peaceful societies that have ever existed.
Comparing crime and violence statistics of Europe and NA to Africa, her claim of violence being the heart of whiteness just breaks down, and if you want to make a special case for masculine or gendered violence, take a look at this depressing wiki-article, or FGM, or...

ps. Seems she's going for broke, she's also quickly take a potshot at video games, since she apparently learned nothing from the various moral panics concerning metal music, role playing games, violent movies, etc etc:
"And yet, methodically plotted acts of epic violence committed by young white males with mini arsenals aping video game assassins are increasingly the hallmark of “HERE”."

[Altair]

Not two days after a re-posting of "da roolz", intended to make Jerry Coyne's website a place to civilized exchange of ideas, one of PZ's regulars displays the usual unreflective, reflexive disregard. And after registering disbelief, flounces, hopefully for good.

Ichthic announces his flounce by saying "I’m gonna kick dirt on your shoes". And then he says "that’s it Jerry. *kicks dirt*"

How old are these people? Even Cartman is more mature than this guy.

[AnonymousCowherd]

Loathe and detest both milk and cream anywhere.

This makes me hate you.

A shot of brandy or grappa beside the coffee is as close as I go to interfering with it.

And this restores the balance in the Force. Well played...

Merci! But...

I hate cheese too. Sorry, cheese partisans upthread.

All of which makes eating out in France pretty damn hard. Good job I like the socca from around your neck of the woods.