Altair wrote:Because Shermer was obviously accusing her of being a person who would burn people at the stake after torturing them to get a confession, right?
That's not the case she's trying to make, or at least it's not how I read her post. Instead, it seems that her reasoning is going in these kind of lines:
1. Look, here's Shermer writing about a modern witch hunt in his book, where people got sent to jail based on fairy tales.
2. Shermer accused me of conducting a with hunt!
3. (1)+(2) means he's implying that I'm doing something as shitty as sending people to jail with fabricated evidence! That's completely rubbish, I'm not doing anything nearly as bad.
4. Actually, I'm trying to help and fix the problem.
5. Since Shermer is rejecting this help, it means he want to keep skepticism as a white boys club.
(6. From (3) and (5), we can draw the conclusion that Shermer is a bad person.)
Of course, her post is still stupid as hell. She's actually gone and dug up a completely unrelated book, written by Shermer 10 years ago, where he talks about a modern witch hunt, and then tries to twist the tale into Shermer using that same implications when he accuses her of conducting a witch hunt.
Because when he's using the phrase "witch hunt", he obviously didn't mean to simply use the known English phrase "witch hunt", with a meaning everyone know and recognize. Nope, instead he actually meant to imply that her behavior was just as bad as those that sent innocent men to prison based on fantasy evidence. Because he 10 years ago wrote about a modern witch hunt where that happened...
Though, personally, even if Ophelia's incompetent reasoning was actually correct, I still think Shermer use of witch hunt would be justified. The way I see it, what's limiting the effects and damages on those the FTBers brand the "witch of the week" is their authority and power, not their desires. If PZ and the rest had actual power, I don't doubt for a second that they would throw people in prison. Maybe not at the start, but damn quick.
Btw, it's quite funny that Ophelia brings up the SRA madness from the 80s/90s, considering that much of it, at least here in Sweden, were a result of radical feminists going bat shit insane. Even quite recently, there were Swedish "elite feminists", high up with powerful political connections, that believe that the satanic cults, with rich and powerful men, were or had conducted ritualistic child sacrifices and pedophilia...
The documentary "Könskriget" (the Gender war) was made 2005, and highlighted among other things, this issue. Here's a short clip from the first part, where the main topic was the case of a women being "rescued" from these Satanist cults by the women network "Bellas Vänner" (Bella's Freinds), which turned really ugly and the women was more or less abused by her feminist rescuers.
The one at first 40 sec, who acts like a true conspiracy theory nutjob, is Ireen von Wachenfeldt, which at the time was the chairman for the Swedish National Women Shelter Organization (ROKS):
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Later on in the documentary she went on to quote Valeri Solanas' Scum with "men are animals", something she had to apologize for in national media... only to a while later take it back, explaining that "I should've said that men are worse than animals".
Last 1½-2 mins is Gunilla Ekberg, at the time working at Sweden’s Ministry of Industry as an expert on prostitution, which in the end explains that the woman making the documentary should not expect to receive any help at a women shelters, since she's a (gender) traitor.