Periodic Table of Swearing

[Za-zen]

Silverman has done a "party political broadcast" which is being touted by the skepbabes et al. In it silverman says:

"I see hatred and threats of violence directed at our sisters-in-arms to be reprehensible, serving no purpose other than to hurt and intimidate valuable allies."

But where the fuck are these threats?! Silverman propogating the narrative. Is he talking about youtube nonsense, who the fuck knows!? Perhaps in fact silverman is talking anout the multitude of threats that originate from the fftb cult, like laden, no matter the baboons are heralding it as Silverman buying into their bullshit in the midst of a growing calling out of their bullshit, someone needs to pull silverman off his political stump and make him say something detailed instead of soundbites.

Hey silverman what's your position on the fabrication of crisis which umdermines movement cohesion with non issues, in order to push a fringe agenda that enhances the public exposure and therefore income of its mouthpieces?

[Tigzy]

Silverman has done a "party political broadcast" which is being touted by the skepbabes et al. In it silverman says:

"I see hatred and threats of violence directed at our sisters-in-arms to be reprehensible, serving no purpose other than to hurt and intimidate valuable allies."

But where the fuck are these threats?! Silverman propogating the narrative. Is he talking about youtube nonsense, who the fuck knows!? Perhaps in fact silverman is talking anout the multitude of threats that originate from the fftb cult, like laden, no matter the baboons are heralding it as Silverman buying into their bullshit in the midst of a growing calling out of their bullshit, someone needs to pull silverman off his political stump and make him say something detailed instead of soundbites.

Hey silverman what's your position on the fabrication of crisis which umdermines movement cohesion with non issues, in order to push a fringe agenda that enhances the public exposure and therefore income of its mouthpieces?

Apparently, examples of these threats/harassment/hate thingys that Amy has to deal with on a daily basis are given here (after the obligatory trigger warning, of course): http://skepchick.org/2012/07/ask-surly- ... with-hate/

Yes, Pappa's joke on Ratz, and that tweet about setting herself on fire. Please note that according to the baboons, the latter isn't usually a threat because, as with 'go fuck yourself with a rusty knife', it's not a threat if you're telling someone to do it to themselves. I know. Go figure.

Interestingly, Amy didn't mention anything about harassing t-shirts, harassing jewelry and harassing satirical songs. Given her reaction at TAM, one would have thought these would be at the top of her list. Oh well.

As for Silverman - I read his statement as this:

'What's this? Skept...chicks? Who? Oh, they want me to say something about how bad hatred and harassment is. Ummm...secretary? Yeah, can you just fire off a quick piece for me? Just something along the lines, 'yeah, threats against women are bad, blah blah'; you know the sort of thing. Yeah? Okay. Right - back to Minesweeper...'

[BarnOwl]

@ GenerallyFading - Those religious paintings are hilarious! I especially like the ones in which Jesus repeatedly compromises the sterile field in the OR.

My childhood version of "monsters under the bed" were muttering gnomes that lived in a pond under the wooden floorboards of the drafty two-story house my parents rented in Minneapolis. They were called Rightos and their heads looked exactly like the typical bearded white hippie version of Jesus, so popular in the US in the 1960s and 1970s. But because they lived in a pond under the floorboards and were stunted in height, and because I had a lot of picture books about aquatic animals and plants, their hair and beards were constantly wet and dripping with water weeds, freshwater snails, dragonfly larvae, and pond scum.

I think this childhood delusion stemmed from a picture of Jesus atop my dresser (probably the grandparents thought it was suitable decor for a child's room), which my mom had accidentally knocked off such that the frame cracked. I was convinced that my mom was doomed to suffer God's wrath for breaking the picture, and burst into tears. The Rightos moved under the floorboards soon afterwards.

Bastards.

[Tigzy]

Ah - to be fair, Amy did mention the harassing t-shirts in the thread below:

A lot of the online threats and harassment are anonymous, yes. But at TAM I dealt with a lot of real people who, while they never touched me, they did things like make fake Surly-Ramics necklaces with words on them that mocked things I said online and there were actual people live blogging from the event saying things like I was part of an ‘axis’ that was trying to destroy the event and people celebrating T-shirts that served to make me feel like an outcast and people singing songs that said we ‘should pull the sticks out of our ass’ etc. So sometimes, yes, I have to deal with actual people IRL. None of those in real life trolls at TAM got within 10ft of me though (that I am aware of) and it’s not often that I encounter those types of people as I do my best not to be around that group.

The response directly below is priceless:

Shockingly low. To misuse your art to condemn you? Vile.

You're telling me! Only today, I opened a bad of sliced bread, and you'll never guess what? some of the slices had only been partially sliced! Shocking!

[justinvacula]

David Silverman's comment:

As a Humanist, I see these threats as base and detestable. They have no redeeming value and will raise no awareness, solve no problems, and hurt those who should be friends.

Which threats? I am yet to see one.

As a long term activist, I see hatred and threats of violence directed at our sisters-in-arms to be reprehensible, serving no purpose other than to hurt and intimidate valuable allies.

Sure, fine, whatever. No problem. I'm not seeing threats of violence, though.

Who are these 'sisters-in-arms' who are activists and receiving threats?
I have seen Ahlquist produce threats...but that's about it...and it's certainly not what the Freethought Bloggers or the Skepchicks are talking about.
I've also seen hate mail from Annie Laurie Gaylor...but that's not what they're talking about either.

Why limit to sisters? Why not 'people?'

As a white man, I know that so much of this hate comes from people who look like me — but they’re nothing like me where it counts.

Why even mention this? What does race or gender have to do with anything here?

As the leader of a national atheist organization, I have implemented harassment policies to minimize such irrational, hateful, and counterproductive behavior wherever my authority allows.

I don't see that these policies are needed although, more recently, I have been considering whether they should be implemented for legal reasons. I don't see how these policies will limit bad behavior, either. Perhaps people may feel more safe (whether or not this is warranted especially considering there does not seem to be a [huge] problem to begin with.

We have a war to win, and we won’t win until we can look forward, without watching our own backs. American Atheists stands by all its members, supporters, and allies, and we will not tolerate hate directed at any of us. Period.

What is this war and how is this war being lost?

[Horace again]

I think that the behaviour of the pharyngulate reinforces PZs behaviour and vice versa. My impression is that Pharyngula has become more intolerant over time.

When I started posting on Pharyngula there were frequent online fights with creationists, now they almost never take them on partly because the creationists don't waste their time posting there, partly because PZ is now more concerned with feminism. These days they spend much more time raging at atheists who are not in line with them than christians or other believers.

The range of accepted opinion has narrowed, first you had to be an atheist, then a gnu atheist, then a feminist Gnu atheist. Many of the posters have become addicted to loosing their temper online and so more and more vitriol is expended on narrower differences of opinion.

I think the benefits of the internet are the opposite; you have a chance to argue with people whose views are completely different from yours who you would never meet in real life.

[Tigzy]

Justin - it looks to me that Silverman dashed this letter off as he would a memo.

Interesting that Ophelia says there's more to come - I'd laugh my tits off if the Skepchicks somehow got the support of Richard Dawkins. Volte face, much?

I'm curious as to what Watson must thinking, considering all recent events seem to be centred around Amy. Must burn a little for her, at least. By virtue of her hysterics, Amy seems to have become quite the prominent voice within her community in latter days. If it goes on, what's the betting of a power struggle between them, I wonder?

[Saint N.]

Last year Miranda Hale commented on her blog that American Atheists was the atheist version of the Catholic League, and I'm inclined to agree. Silverman and PZ, made a name for themselves out of being insensitive loudmouths, and for either one to preach to anyone about the need for greater sensitivity is a joke. (this is the article I'm referring to http://mirandaceleste.net/2011/09/27/am ... o-atheism/)

[Dave]

Well, it may have had nothing to do with his heart surgery but that does seem a convenient timestamp for when he seemed to really get worse.

Thats why I mentioned crackergate and Expelled. From my perspective, he started going downhill four years ago, well actually started earlier than that, but 2008 was when it started to pick up speed, because it started going to his head.

[ERV]

I'd laugh my tits off if the Skepchicks somehow got the support of Richard Dawkins. Volte face, much?

That is not happening (I guess, unless Dawkins gets brain damage as the result of a cardiac episode, or as the result of bypass surgery...).

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post. I *know* that took a lot of time to pull together. I really appreciate it :)

And my shuffle reminded me of one of my favorite songs about stalking-- a girl who looks like a boy stalking a girl who really looks like a boy. The video never got finished, but the song is fun:
[youtube]O09v0uQUHxQ[/youtube]

[BarnOwl]

skepchick website isn't loading for me ... anyone else having problems accessing it?

I watched the FTB discussion on atheism and parenting last night (I know, I know) - in large part because some friends of mine are struggling with these issues for their young children. Their kids attend school in a rural/small town district, and are probably one of the few godless families in the whole county.

Anyway, I thought PZ was quite reasonable and made some of the best points about raising godless kids. More like the pre-Crackergate PZ that I remember. Kylie Sturgess was also quite good, and had some excellent book recommendations - apparently she teaches children, not sure whether she has any of her own. No idea why Benson was part of the discussion. Clueless as usual. ::eye roll::

I was beginning to wonder about philosophers, until I started reading Žižek. My kind of philosopher, so far at least. :mrgreen:

[Tigzy]

Skeptchick site is working fine for me.

[CommanderTuvok]

Why even mention this? What does race or gender have to do with anything here?

Tsk. Tsk. Check your PRIVILEGE. That's Baboon orders.

[ERV]

Regarding Jean/DJ/anyone else looking down their noses at The Pit crew.

Ive been thinking about this and writing/deleting rants.

It boils down to: Show me a way that works, and I will happily support it.

But, thus far, Jean/DJ/etc approach-- be nice, address the arguments, stiff upper lip-- it has gotten them nowhere.

*Nowhere*.

While The Pit Crew has had a wonderful time having real discussions with our real personalities/quirks, nailed the FTBullies to the wall over and over and over and over and over, shown the courage to speak up when no one else was speaking up (despite being attacked on personal and professional levels, relentlessly), and compassion reaching out to other victims not part of Our Group, and so on.

And if they had such a great way to approach this issue, where were they a year ago? Im happy for reinforcements, genuinely, but smugly acting like they were part of overturning FTBullies all along, after the job is basically already done? I dont think so.

This feels like the same crap I have been dealing with from others fighting against Creationism/anti-vaxers/global warming deniers-- Youve got folks who look at the situation 'academically', telling those of us who have to deal with Creationists/anti-vaxers/GWD on the ground, in real life, every day How To Do It Right, when their own sterile approach gets them *no where*, and us stupid grunts actually get shit done.

Frankly, I dont care about DJ/Jean/anyones 'approval'. The fact is, The Pit Crew has been there for people who needed it. If a few us us occasionally using bad wurds negates that, well, fuck you.

[CommanderTuvok]

Abbie, I for one will be forever grateful for you standing up to the Baboon bullies alone, ie actually calling them out and letting an opposing POV to be heard (via ERV).

Actually, I think there are a lot of people in the skeptic/Atheist community who are glad you did what you did, Abbie, including many of the well-known leaders. Even if they are a bit shy in saying so.

[justinvacula]

Regarding Jean/DJ/anyone else looking down their noses at The Pit crew.

It boils down to: Show me a way that works, and I will happily support it.

But, thus far, Jean/DJ/etc approach-- be nice, address the arguments, stiff upper lip-- it has gotten them nowhere.

*Nowhere*.

While The Pit Crew has had a wonderful time having real discussions with our real personalities/quirks, nailed the FTBullies to the wall over and over and over and over and over, shown the courage to speak up when no one else was speaking up (despite being attacked on personal and professional levels, relentlessly), and compassion reaching out to other victims not part of Our Group, and so on.

This.

I went to 'Lousy Canuck's' blog calling for civility and I was called a 'tone troll.'
I was then called a "vacuous shitbag troll" and this was, at the time, parroted by Stephanie Zvan (and now it's being used by PZ).
Reach out to Ophelia as she asked? That's me "trolling" and "insulting."
Invite Ophelia on my podcast following her being angry with treatment she received? Can't have that.

As one of my favorite bands, Blind Guardian, says, "It goes on and on and on and on" (bonus points if you know the song without cheating!)

This, though, I don't think, should be an 'everything goes' mentality which some atheists seem to take concerning religion (Well, they don't listen when we played nice, so offend the shit out of them!).

I'd propose -- and this is just me -- to attack ideas and not persons. Name-calling here and there...whatever. Others do it, I don't. So be it. Everyone has their approach. Either way, I've been a fan of modeling good discourse in that if you want others to have good behavior, the way forward is to model good behavior.

Carry on.

[justinvacula]

http://i.imgur.com/yb0S1.jpg

Never knew we had leaders of this forum, lol.

[Dilurk]

Regarding Jean/DJ/anyone else looking down their noses at The Pit crew.

Ive been thinking about this and writing/deleting rants.

It boils down to: Show me a way that works, and I will happily support it.

But, thus far, Jean/DJ/etc approach-- be nice, address the arguments, stiff upper lip-- it has gotten them nowhere.

*Nowhere*.

While The Pit Crew has had a wonderful time having real discussions with our real personalities/quirks, nailed the FTBullies to the wall over and over and over and over and over, shown the courage to speak up when no one else was speaking up (despite being attacked on personal and professional levels, relentlessly), and compassion reaching out to other victims not part of Our Group, and so on.

And if they had such a great way to approach this issue, where were they a year ago? Im happy for reinforcements, genuinely, but smugly acting like they were part of overturning FTBullies all along, after the job is basically already done? I dont think so.

This feels like the same crap I have been dealing with from others fighting against Creationism/anti-vaxers/global warming deniers-- Youve got folks who look at the situation 'academically', telling those of us who have to deal with Creationists/anti-vaxers/GWD on the ground, in real life, every day How To Do It Right, when their own sterile approach gets them *no where*, and us stupid grunts actually get shit done.

Frankly, I dont care about DJ/Jean/anyones 'approval'. The fact is, The Pit Crew has been there for people who needed it. If a few us us occasionally using bad wurds negates that, well, fuck you.

All I can say is Thank You.

[Tigzy]

The joyless mannequins of the baboon boards thirst for order. See how quick they are to pigeonhole, to categorize, to 'out' and identify those who they perceive to be their enemies. That which they cannot label and identify confounds them; therefore whatever label they hastily put on it just looks stupid.

Take any approach you like, I say. Polite or vulgar; whatever suits you. Don't feel the need to be the same as anyone else in your approach. Do that, and you only make it easier for them.

“With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty”
― Alan Moore, V for Vendetta

[BarnOwl]

Hmmm, I could access the Silverman post from an FTB link, but not the skepchicks site main page. Whatevs.

From BitterLies and (Imaginary) Weals:

Suck on that, haters.

Amy says there will be more to come. Fasten your seatbelts, haters.

[DW Adams]

Regarding Jean/DJ/anyone else looking down their noses at The Pit crew.

Ive been thinking about this and writing/deleting rants.

It boils down to: Show me a way that works, and I will happily support it.

But, thus far, Jean/DJ/etc approach-- be nice, address the arguments, stiff upper lip-- it has gotten them nowhere.

*Nowhere*.

While The Pit Crew has had a wonderful time having real discussions with our real personalities/quirks, nailed the FTBullies to the wall over and over and over and over and over, shown the courage to speak up when no one else was speaking up (despite being attacked on personal and professional levels, relentlessly), and compassion reaching out to other victims not part of Our Group, and so on.

And if they had such a great way to approach this issue, where were they a year ago? Im happy for reinforcements, genuinely, but smugly acting like they were part of overturning FTBullies all along, after the job is basically already done? I dont think so.

This feels like the same crap I have been dealing with from others fighting against Creationism/anti-vaxers/global warming deniers-- Youve got folks who look at the situation 'academically', telling those of us who have to deal with Creationists/anti-vaxers/GWD on the ground, in real life, every day How To Do It Right, when their own sterile approach gets them *no where*, and us stupid grunts actually get shit done.

Frankly, I dont care about DJ/Jean/anyones 'approval'. The fact is, The Pit Crew has been there for people who needed it. If a few us us occasionally using bad wurds negates that, well, fuck you.

I'm not really a Slime Pit member, more of a supporter, as I've always kept to lurking throughout all this mess. But, when I saw the move here, I knew needed to be more vocal with my support. So I joined and I'm glad I picked the right side.

[Dilurk]

Hmmm, I could access the Silverman post from an FTB link, but not the skepchicks site main page. Whatevs.

From BitterLies and (Imaginary) Weals:

Suck on that, haters.

Amy says there will be more to come. Fasten your seatbelts, haters.

I don't hate Amy. Life is too short for hate.

[Dilurk]

Regarding Jean/DJ/anyone else looking down their noses at The Pit crew.

Ive been thinking about this and writing/deleting rants.

It boils down to: Show me a way that works, and I will happily support it.

But, thus far, Jean/DJ/etc approach-- be nice, address the arguments, stiff upper lip-- it has gotten them nowhere.

*Nowhere*.

While The Pit Crew has had a wonderful time having real discussions with our real personalities/quirks, nailed the FTBullies to the wall over and over and over and over and over, shown the courage to speak up when no one else was speaking up (despite being attacked on personal and professional levels, relentlessly), and compassion reaching out to other victims not part of Our Group, and so on.

And if they had such a great way to approach this issue, where were they a year ago? Im happy for reinforcements, genuinely, but smugly acting like they were part of overturning FTBullies all along, after the job is basically already done? I dont think so.

This feels like the same crap I have been dealing with from others fighting against Creationism/anti-vaxers/global warming deniers-- Youve got folks who look at the situation 'academically', telling those of us who have to deal with Creationists/anti-vaxers/GWD on the ground, in real life, every day How To Do It Right, when their own sterile approach gets them *no where*, and us stupid grunts actually get shit done.

Frankly, I dont care about DJ/Jean/anyones 'approval'. The fact is, The Pit Crew has been there for people who needed it. If a few us us occasionally using bad wurds negates that, well, fuck you.

I'm not really a Slime Pit member, more of a supporter, as I've always kept to lurking throughout all this mess. But, when I saw the move here, I knew needed to be more vocal with my support. So I joined and I'm glad I picked the right side.

It isn't about sides, it's about respect for differing viewpoints.

[ERV]

Hmmm, I could access the Silverman post from an FTB link, but not the skepchicks site main page. Whatevs.

From BitterLies and (Imaginary) Weals:

Suck on that, haters.

Amy says there will be more to come. Fasten your seatbelts, haters.

God Benson is weird.

[DW Adams]

It isn't about sides, it's about respect for differing viewpoints.

And this side respects differing viewpoints.

Hence it's the right side for me.

Simple.

[Saint N.]

http://i.imgur.com/yb0S1.jpg

Never knew we had leaders of this forum, lol.

I thought Elevator Guy was our nameless, faceless leader. Which I guess makes Abbie our patriarch...er...matriarch??? Seriously though, Justin, all your past accomplishments are now meaningless to them. Never mind that the majority of the FC5(6) have done little to nothing to advance a positive image of atheism or secularism, as long as they are advancing the party narrative even no-names like Lousy Canuck, Zvan, and Benson, are "valuable members of the atheist/skeptic community who have done much to contribute to the advance of reason and science." Just don't ask for specifics, lest you be accused of trolling ;)

btw Lsuoma, I like the new tagline.

[DW Adams]

Hmmm, I could access the Silverman post from an FTB link, but not the skepchicks site main page. Whatevs.

From BitterLies and (Imaginary) Weals:

Suck on that, haters.

Amy says there will be more to come. Fasten your seatbelts, haters.

God Benson is weird.

Not to mention the visual that phrase brings

[Tigzy]

Benson. That kick. She just can't resist:

Ophelia Benson says:
July 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Oh I know. James Onen has a new and very long post to say just that, among other things – I saw it via a pingback. James Onen! Of Freethought Kampala! That’s been possibly the most disappointing ex-friend in all this.

He once told me my efforts to promote Freethought Kampala got it noticed by the British Humanist Assoc and that’s why they invited him on a speaking tour to the UK – but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt – and he has the fucking gall to say I’m “milking” it. If you see this, James – fuck you. Am I glad that Ivanoff has been talking about me that way for a year, so that I can “milk” it? No. Fuck you.

[CommanderTuvok]

Well, Felix the Hater can fuck right off.

She probably doesn't realise that one of the reasons why Justin posts here is because he was banhammered elsewhere for no reason.

Free speech, eh. What a bummer.

[Lsuoma]

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post.

Oops!

[Saint N.]

but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt

Ivanoff? Ivanoff?! She still hasn't figured it out? Goodness, how dense can she be?

[CommanderTuvok]

I imagine any gratitude James once had towards Opheliar has since evaporated. Like many in the skeptic/atheist, his view is probably very sour of the madwoman in the attic.

PS - As long as Opheliar continues to defend and support her dear friend Osama Greg Laden, anything she says about others will be dismissed.

[Dilurk]

Hmmm, I could access the Silverman post from an FTB link, but not the skepchicks site main page. Whatevs.

From BitterLies and (Imaginary) Weals:

Suck on that, haters.

Amy says there will be more to come. Fasten your seatbelts, haters.

God Benson is weird.

She's lost Jean Kazez as a friend. I really have to wonder what Benson thinks she is doing.

[CommanderTuvok]

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post.

Oops!

The Slyme Pit renaming techniques backfires.

[Dilurk]

but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt

Ivanoff? Ivanoff?! She still hasn't figured it out? Goodness, how dense can she be?

Dense enough to be convinced a@b.com is a valid e-mail address.

[ERV]

Ophelia Benson says:
July 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Oh I know. James Onen has a new and very long post to say just that, among other things – I saw it via a pingback. James Onen! Of Freethought Kampala! That’s been possibly the most disappointing ex-friend in all this.

He once told me my efforts to promote Freethought Kampala got it noticed by the British Humanist Assoc and that’s why they invited him on a speaking tour to the UK – but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt – and he has the fucking gall to say I’m “milking” it. If you see this, James – fuck you. Am I glad that Ivanoff has been talking about me that way for a year, so that I can “milk” it? No. Fuck you.

Dear Ophelia Benson:

VICTOR IVANOFF IS A DEAD RUSSIAN.

HES DEAD.

DEAAAAAAAAAAD.

THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION.

WE HAVE ALL KNOWN THIS FOR MONTHS NOW.

FRANC HOGGLE IS NOT VICTOR IVANOFF BECAUSE VICTOR IVANOFF IS DEAD.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/ori ... stewie.png

[Dilurk]

Ophelia Benson says:
July 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Oh I know. James Onen has a new and very long post to say just that, among other things – I saw it via a pingback. James Onen! Of Freethought Kampala! That’s been possibly the most disappointing ex-friend in all this.

He once told me my efforts to promote Freethought Kampala got it noticed by the British Humanist Assoc and that’s why they invited him on a speaking tour to the UK – but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt – and he has the fucking gall to say I’m “milking” it. If you see this, James – fuck you. Am I glad that Ivanoff has been talking about me that way for a year, so that I can “milk” it? No. Fuck you.

Dear Ophelia Benson:

VICTOR IVANOFF IS A DEAD RUSSIAN.

HES DEAD.

DEAAAAAAAAAAD.

THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION.

WE HAVE ALL KNOWN THIS FOR MONTHS NOW.

FRANC HOGGLE IS NOT VICTOR IVANOFF BECAUSE VICTOR IVANOFF IS DEAD.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/ori ... stewie.png

No wonder he smells bad.

[KiwiInOz]

VICTOR IVANOFF IS DEAD.

But his electrons live on.

[Lsuoma]

btw Lsuoma, I like the new tagline.

Thanks - I'll change it from time to time as the fancy takes me. As mentioned (a lot) earlier, I'm more than willing to take suggestions...

[SenorBeagle]

Okay, now I know why Benson is scared.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer ... 102911.jpg

I'M SCARED TOO, NOW!

[KiwiInOz]

Benson. That kick. She just can't resist:

Ophelia Benson says:
July 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm

Oh I know. James Onen has a new and very long post to say just that, among other things – I saw it via a pingback. James Onen! Of Freethought Kampala! That’s been possibly the most disappointing ex-friend in all this.

He once told me my efforts to promote Freethought Kampala got it noticed by the British Humanist Assoc and that’s why they invited him on a speaking tour to the UK – but now there he is explaining why it’s “just rhetoric” or some fucking thing when Ivanoff rants about kicking me in the cunt – and he has the fucking gall to say I’m “milking” it. If you see this, James – fuck you. Am I glad that Ivanoff has been talking about me that way for a year, so that I can “milk” it? No. Fuck you.

[blackadder] That woman is nuttier than a bag of mixed nuts buried in a vat of mixed nuts [/blackadder]

[Lsuoma]

VICTOR IVANOFF IS DEAD.

[youtube]grbSQ6O6kbs[/youtube]

[KiwiInOz]

btw Lsuoma, I like the new tagline.

Thanks - I'll change it from time to time as the fancy takes me. As mentioned (a lot) earlier, I'm more than willing to take suggestions...

How about: "IT'S GOOEY, DRIPPY, OOZEY, COLD 'N CLAMMY"

[youtube]vf1GkWvWelI[/youtube]

[ERV]

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post.

Oops!

BANNED! YOURE BANNED FROM THE SLYME PIT! I SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED!!!

[Lsuoma]

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post.

Oops!

BANNED! YOURE BANNED FROM THE SLYME PIT! I SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED!!!

Says the one who laffed her arse off at me for admin fail...

[Lsuoma]

A BIG THANK YOU to James Onan for that post.

Oops!

BANNED! YOURE BANNED FROM THE SLYME PIT! I SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED!!!

Says the one who laffed her arse off at me for admin fail...

Oh, and yes: big thanks to James On*n for the excellent post...

[BarnOwl]

Benson is the Squirrel Nutkin of FTB. Weirdest of the weird.

I think the weirdest thing about her is that everything she writes on her blag is self-referential in some way, and always plays into her bizarre fixation with martyrdom and being persecuted. Even her so-called literary analysis posts eventually come around to that. I think I could find something positive -fundraising, humor, science writing, parenting, etc.- about the other FC5 and even about the Skepchicks, but not Benson.

And I don't hate anyone either. Not even the annoying philosopher I have to work with on the curriculum. Usually I just end up feeling sorry for people and how unhappy they must be.

[RebeccaB]

Hello - new here....Oh, I'm an old lady of 60+ who used to work in the criminal justice system, so I think I know a bit about gender prejudice! And I

I'm an old lady of 59, with a grandson and another grandchild on the way. (Sheesh how did that happen?) So it is nice to see you.Anyway, welcome to the slymepit where people are treated with respect despite differences.

Well, count me in as another old lady of 59 - ex-archaeologist, now writing and raising vegetables and chooks in the BC outback. Worked abroad for many years - Egypt, Sudan, Kuwait, Hong Kong - so have a fair idea of different regional flavours of gender and racial prejudice, and know how bloody good we have it here.

[CommanderTuvok]

Perhaps it might dawn on Ophelia Benson why it is she keeps on losing her friends.

It isn't because of the bad smell.

;)

[justinvacula]

Disagree with #ftbullies?

Nothing else you do matters!

http://i.imgur.com/YTB2f.jpg

[Tigzy]

Hmmm. Touched a nerve there, I think. https://twitter.com/Felix3333/status/227900605497212929

Felix
@RichSandersen @CLSkeptic Tigzy on "trophy rape victims" speaking on FTB: "deploying real suffering to serve a spurious agenda" #FTBullies

Is Felix/Felix3333 the same FelixBC on the baboon boards?

Whoever she is, she sure does have an appetite for this place.

[StueNever]

http://i.imgur.com/yb0S1.jpg

Never knew we had leaders of this forum, lol.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7084/7280 ... f2db_n.jpg

[KiwiInOz]

Disagree with #ftbullies?

Nothing else you do matters!

http://i.imgur.com/YTB2f.jpg

JUST STOP It Justin. You'll hurt their fee fees.

[BarnOwl]

http://twitter.com/AngrySkepchick/statu ... 0582896641

Sally Ride endured resistance & derision as she broke new ground. I know just how she felt. Someone called me a name on the internet.

Ouch. That's going to leave a mark.

:lol:

[franc]

A female friend of mine when asked what made cunt her favourite swear word replied that it was abrupt, harsh and Germanic sounding. Best said in a cockney accent though. "you fuuuuaaaaacccckkkkinggg cuuuuuunaaaannnnntttt!":

I somehow remembered this as -

"I'll 'ill 'ou, 'ou 'unt"

Nevertheless, a thigh slapping read.

[Saint N.]

Meanwhile, Thunderf00t still going strong against FtB's crusade of self-victimization: http://thunderf00tdotorg.wordpress.com/ ... ctim-hood/

Is it just me, or has his writing style improved since he left that place?

[justinvacula]

The Freethought Blogs Timeline is falling behind :\

[justinvacula]

http://i.imgur.com/YmLpZ.jpg

[DW Adams]

Goddamnit, @SallyStrange is the most dishonest, strawman making Twitter user I've seen.

Seriously, is anyone else seeing this week-long back and forth between her and Damion?

Sally Strange ‏@SallyStrange

@D4M10N If you think it's worth throwing women and other minorities under the bus in the name of "unity" just say so. #FTBullies

[DW Adams]

http://i.imgur.com/YmLpZ.jpg

I saw that tweet :)

I'm also seeing more and more anti-PZ posts/tweets lately.