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I think I am in love!Darth Cynic wrote:The almost complete abrogation of reason by folks I would have previously assumed to know better is bad enough but the rank, endemic hypocrisy of these sanctimonious blowhards and the acolytes that gambol about worshipfully at their feet is simply incredible.
For some reason, I had the impression you and Darth would go like a house on fire. Darth, please keep posting.Michael K Gray wrote:I think I am in love!Darth Cynic wrote:The almost complete abrogation of reason by folks I would have previously assumed to know better is bad enough but the rank, endemic hypocrisy of these sanctimonious blowhards and the acolytes that gambol about worshipfully at their feet is simply incredible.
Yeah, mate. I'm from Orstraya, and we don't have accents neither!ReneeHendricks wrote:Isn't that accent just *awesome*? I'm from Washington state - we have *no* accent here other than the occasional odd person who says "Warshington" instead of "Washington". Scottish and German accents just rock my world :DArya Stark wrote:And we share the love for Scottish accents *gg*
Lettuce Gherkin Bacon Tomato & Quince??ReneeHendricks wrote:Sigh. Should have been LGBTQ crowd. Typing too fast.
Was she actually banned? Further, who the hell does Rebecca Watson think she is? Queen Bee can't simply demand conferences ban people she doesn't like (which would be a lot of people, in effect).I don't like PZs hyperbole, you know that. You were supposedly referenced by RW in her talk as a 'woman' that was banned from a conference she was at
Lenny had the right of it. If the reaction to a redneck screaming nigger was to point, laugh, and walk off, the word would lose all its power. It would become about as offensive as honky. If the mere utterance of a word can make you mindlessly mad or offended, you've given a tremendous amount of power to whomever uses it.Steersman wrote:As if to say that maybe I’m flogging a dead horse? :-)Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Steers, oh my Steers:
No problemo – unlike most of AtheismPlus and, surprisingly, franc (politics & strange bedfellows …) I don’t have a problem with people asking questions …. ;-)I haven't heard from you about my answer to your query WRT "nigger" vs "cunt". http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... ger#p23965
This isn't baiting or anything, I'd just like to have your opinion on my train of thought. Checking myself, sort of...
But I think your anecdote about some of your white friends calling one of their black friends a nigger illustrates and supports my argument that such words – along with “cuntâ€, “prickâ€, and the like – don’t necessarily apply to an entire group: if “cunt†isn’t sexist then, analogously, “nigger†isn’t racist, although both can be rude and insulting, of course. And it also illustrates Lenny Bruce’s argument that “… it’s the suppression of the word that gives it the power, the violence, the viciousness.†And maybe that latter point is part of franc’s (and the Pit’s) fifth-column, guerilla-warfare, clandestine objective, at least with regard to “cunt†….
However, I’m most curious about the mechanism or process by which many people seem to reach the conclusion that either of those words – and similar ones – supposedly apply to entire groups. Particularly since the argument seems a little more tenuous for “nigger†and similar words, although that might be due to the suppression. But consider these definitions for the word:Interestingly and in passing, I note that the article describes cases, similar to your anecdote, where there is “the sense [of] referring to a “black personâ€, [as] sometimes used among African-Americans, in a neutral or familiar way.†Much like “cunt†in this neck of the woods, at least sometimes.noun
1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive .
a. a black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.
2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive . a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.
But it is the last two definitions that seem suggestive of that conflation of the individual and group: each of them refer to “a person†by which there is no justification that I can see for implying that it refers to an entire group, no justification for arguing that any group – on average – is any more or less “contemptible, inferior, or ignorant; or economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised†than any other group. And certainly not due to any intrinsic “flawsâ€.
Hope that addresses your query or question, although I think it is, in general, a complicated question so I may not have ....
Yeah. Best.Porn.Ever.ReneeHendricks wrote:By the way, hello Arya! You happen to be from one of my favorite countries - big love for Germany. Welcome to the pit :)
At least you didn't accuse me of wearing a gump suit.Michael K Gray wrote:Yeah, mate. I'm from Orstraya, and we don't have accents neither!ReneeHendricks wrote:Isn't that accent just *awesome*? I'm from Washington state - we have *no* accent here other than the occasional odd person who says "Warshington" instead of "Washington". Scottish and German accents just rock my world :DArya Stark wrote:And we share the love for Scottish accents *gg*
Not the blokes or the sheilas.
It's you Septics wot gots the accents, mate.
*shakes head*Scented Nectar wrote:Oh for fuck's sakes, drama queen is neither misogynistic nor homophobic. It has to do with drama loving attention seekers. And that's all it is. They should fucking know better. Hey, Crommunist, if you're reading this, isn't it also classist, the queen being royalty and all?Guest wrote:PZ Myers defends a user of misogynistic language (and possibly homophobic too!):
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http://i47.tinypic.com/nwaow7.png
Using my infallible skeptic skills, I can now deduce that:
- anything posted there is misogynistic
- Pharyngula is a hate site (if we keep repeating this it becomes true, right?)
- the commenters there are "sickos" and "creeps"
My logic is even more infallible. Yes, it's possible.
:lol:
No.TheMan wrote:Send it to Melbourne?Michael K Gray wrote:How do you make a Maltese Cross?TheMan wrote:We can add Maltese* to the list too.
Because he can't be arsed to actually DO anything in support of his belief that might be the least bit inconvenient?ERV wrote:'I dont speak at conferences I have to fly to' has been one of my 'diva' speaker-rules since Day 1. I can dig up any number of emails where speakers have asked me from other parts of the country/world, and I have declined/suggested Skype/suggested local people I know are good.Guest wrote:Again from PZ's energy post.
Josh, Official SpokesGay wrote:Because it’s totally reasonable to hold one individual responsible for what can only be solved by top-down public policy. Of course we should hobble one individual on the (yes, totally fucked) mass transportation playing field and expect him to bear the consequences of the tragedy-of-the-commons scenario. He should take a principled stand and refuse to go to any conferences, confident in the knowledge that everyone else will but it’s all worth it.
In fact I did a Skype presentation on HIV about two weeks ago.
Why can *I* do that, with very minimal interest in environmentalism (my reasoning is more about time and supporting local talent), but our 'environmentalist' friend PZ Myers cant?
Hi Sophistry. FTB really do a great job at marketing.Sophistry wrote:Just a quick post to say hello. I've lurked for quite awhile registered and not. I found the Pit because the FtB folks spoke so poorly of it that I knew it must have a lot of redeeming qualities.
I'm not sure how much I will contribute here but I do want share how much I've learned and laughed here. There is a wonderful dynamic here that includes serious skeptical argument, silliness and petty bitchiness. My kind of place.
:fades into the background for now:
Cheers, mateAndrewV69 wrote:*frosty look*Arya Stark wrote:Wow. That's wonderful. Nice to meet you... but Texas, that's a bit like moving to Bavaria, hm?AnimalAndy wrote:No way! I am from Düsseldorf too. I moved to Austin, TX in 2005. Small world indeed!zou3gou3 wrote:@Arya Stark
You're from Düsseldorf?
Could you give Dillahunty a smack on the back of his head for me? ;)
You have a problem with Bavaria? You must be from Prussia or another of those places where Germans with speech defects live... like Austria.
Oh wait, you are from Düsseldorf... that explains it. Probably drink that disgusting swill known as Alt no doubt.
I may have to agree. The singer of one of the bands I play with is German, and his primary job is artistic director for a German porn site. Last time I saw him he gave me a DVD of German porn. *Not wanking* wasn't an option.franc wrote:Yeah. Best.Porn.Ever.ReneeHendricks wrote:By the way, hello Arya! You happen to be from one of my favorite countries - big love for Germany. Welcome to the pit :)
When my daughter was ~4, I was shopping with her in a supermarket when she shouted (and pointed) "Look at that man with the BIG COCK!!"LouFCD wrote:When she was wee widdle, my daughter had a hard-to-break habit of referring to people she didn't know by the color of their shirt. Wearing a blue shirt? "Daddy, the blue lady..." A red one? "Daddy, the red lady..." In Walmart one day, "Daddy, look at the big black man..." I turned around and um, yeah. He was every inch of 7 feet tall. And amused, having just overheard the conversation about the blue lady's very pretty shoes.d4m10n wrote:My kids did that, too. Of course, pink is a profoundly pejorative term in subgenius subculture, so I made them stop.BarnOwl wrote:A friend's children refer to everyone as either "brown" or "pink," which seems quite reasonable to me.
Kids, ya' just gotta love 'em.
I guess you've already forgotten the nutty lady on Facebook with Justin Vacula's address threatening to contact all of his family members?oolon, slimy turd wrote: There have been pretty much no incidents of people on the internet turning up at peoples houses with the intent of summary justice? Certainly not in the atheist-sceptic movement. Parallel with harassment here, none of the Skepchicks or FtBs feminist has ever had a real harassment incident as far as some here are concerned, but you are willing to convince yourselves that there really is an group of FtB'ers nuttier than squirrel poo and looking up your address so they can trick or treat you? I know its Halloween but I'm thinking PZ's hyperbole about this place being evil is getting to you...
Well, duh, it's the very definition of Poe -decius wrote:Yeah, who could fucking tell.Al Stefanelli wrote:
Poe?
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of religious or other fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane.
Could have been worse I suppose:Tigzy wrote:http://users.skynet.be/Brucelles/photo_ ... udia_1.jpgAl Stefanelli wrote: Now you know what Jawas look like under those hoods...
My daughter at a similar age asked her mother in a very loud voice when the man (with a large beer belly) was going to have his baby.Michael K Gray wrote:When my daughter was ~4, I was shopping with her in a supermarket when she shouted (and pointed) "Look at that man with the BIG COCK!!"LouFCD wrote:When she was wee widdle, my daughter had a hard-to-break habit of referring to people she didn't know by the color of their shirt. Wearing a blue shirt? "Daddy, the blue lady..." A red one? "Daddy, the red lady..." In Walmart one day, "Daddy, look at the big black man..." I turned around and um, yeah. He was every inch of 7 feet tall. And amused, having just overheard the conversation about the blue lady's very pretty shoes.d4m10n wrote:My kids did that, too. Of course, pink is a profoundly pejorative term in subgenius subculture, so I made them stop.BarnOwl wrote:A friend's children refer to everyone as either "brown" or "pink," which seems quite reasonable to me.
Kids, ya' just gotta love 'em.
Everyone went dead quiet, and stared at use.
(He was wearing an oversized wristwatch. She couldn't yet say "cLock.")
The bloke first looked stunned, then very pleased, then very ashamed, all in a split second.
Hmmmmm. Tough one. OTOH, sometimes guessing is a little easier based on what they are wearing?ReneeHendricks wrote:By simply *looking* at a person...how are we to know exactly what they prefer? It's mind-numbing.Al Stefanelli wrote:Poe?decius wrote:Wait, is this shit real? I thought it was satire.ReneeHendricks wrote:
Seriously. This shit is making my head hurt. Do *NORMAL* people expect me to walk up and automatically know what fucking new pronouns I should use and how I should perceive the person on front of me...as male, female, non-gender, trans-gender, whatever? I'm very into ensuring the same rights for all and do quite a bit for the LBTBQ crowd. But even my LGBTQ friends understand that you cannot tell the stance/gender/feeling/whatthefuckever of a person simply by looking at them. I need some fucking headache relief - ooo, whiskey.
I had someone offer the 'if it walks like a duck' argument about their 'gaydar' one day. I told him if a horse came up to me and got mad because I could obviously not tell it was really a cow, then fuck the horse, fuck the cow and fuck you, too. For some reason, he did not appreciate my lesson in 'your a fucking retard.'
That was me agreeing with Al on those bases. But thanks.franc wrote:Well, duh, it's the very definition of Poe -decius wrote:Yeah, who could fucking tell.Al Stefanelli wrote:
Poe?
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of religious or other fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane.
:lol: You saucy mansplainer, you!oolon, slimy turd wrote: I know Dilurk etc says s(he) is more scared of the FtBs lot than any Slymepitter - but surely you don't think any of them that even live in the US would actually turn up at your house?
There have been pretty much no incidents of people on the internet turning up at peoples houses with the intent of summary justice? Certainly not in the atheist-sceptic movement.
I think the definition needs to be extended - that a Poe detectable as a Poe is no longer a Poe. Confusion is the art. Or, Operation Mindfuck.decius wrote:That was me agreeing with Al on those bases. But thanks.franc wrote:Well, duh, it's the very definition of Poe -decius wrote:Yeah, who could fucking tell.Al Stefanelli wrote:
Poe?
Poe's Law is an axiom suggesting that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of religious or other fundamentalism and its genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane.
Righty ho! Here is anDilurk wrote:And I counter with an easy version of "newfie"Lsuoma wrote:I bet you watch Rab C. Nesbitt with subtitles...Arya Stark wrote:I have a hart time hearing German accent, accept some thick with dialect in it. But Scottish is just wonderful, sometimes hard to understand but this rolling R's... that gets me on the fainting couch. *bathing in cliché*ReneeHendricks wrote:Isn't that accent just *awesome*? I'm from Washington state - we have *no* accent here other than the occasional odd person who says "Warshington" instead of "Washington". Scottish and German accents just rock my world :DArya Stark wrote:And we share the love for Scottish accents *gg*
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I have been unable to find the really thick accents on youtube, this guy is not hard at all to understand.
Kids are hilarious.LouFCD wrote:When she was wee widdle, my daughter had a hard-to-break habit of referring to people she didn't know by the color of their shirt. Wearing a blue shirt? "Daddy, the blue lady..." A red one? "Daddy, the red lady..." In Walmart one day, "Daddy, look at the big black man..." I turned around and um, yeah. He was every inch of 7 feet tall. And amused, having just overheard the conversation about the blue lady's very pretty shoes.d4m10n wrote:My kids did that, too. Of course, pink is a profoundly pejorative term in subgenius subculture, so I made them stop.BarnOwl wrote:A friend's children refer to everyone as either "brown" or "pink," which seems quite reasonable to me.
Kids, ya' just gotta love 'em.
It reminds me of what Derren Brown is doing to gullible TV audiences. There are even some "skeptics" falling for it, forgetting what the job description of a mentalist looks like. There's the chance that he is also directly responsible for disseminating the clues and faux clues in the surreal youtube and newspapers' comment threads.franc wrote: I think the definition needs to be extended - that a Poe detectable as a Poe is no longer a Poe. Confusion is the art. Or, Operation Mindfuck.
Well done, this totally mindfucked me when refreshing.Lsuoma wrote:I've reduced the number of posts displayed per page from 100 to 25 in an attempt to limit page load times for people with less capable computers and/or slower connections.
Well, that was the other objective of the exercise, of course...Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Well done, this totally mindfucked me when refreshing.Lsuoma wrote:I've reduced the number of posts displayed per page from 100 to 25 in an attempt to limit page load times for people with less capable computers and/or slower connections.
Seconded.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Well done, this totally mindfucked me when refreshing.Lsuoma wrote:I've reduced the number of posts displayed per page from 100 to 25 in an attempt to limit page load times for people with less capable computers and/or slower connections.
decius wrote:It reminds me of what Derren Brown is doing to gullible TV audiences. There are even some "skeptics" falling for it, forgetting what the job description of a mentalist looks like. There's the chance that he is also directly responsible for disseminating the clues and faux clues in the surreal youtube and newspapers' comment threads.franc wrote: I think the definition needs to be extended - that a Poe detectable as a Poe is no longer a Poe. Confusion is the art. Or, Operation Mindfuck.
In case you haven't seen his Apocalypse pseudo-reality show, you may want to take a look (especially at the ensuing discussions).
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 68993.html
eh? This supposed to be hard to understand or something eh?AndrewV69 wrote:
Righty ho! Here is anIrishJamaican accent:
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Just a couple of considerations, here. No insurance company will ever cover a programme like that, particularly in a country with strict regulations like the UK. I can tell you the specific reasons if you want.mutleyeng wrote:
saw the first one - gotta say it just screamed "fake" to me.. the only thing that remotely gives me reason to question it might be fake would be the backlash if it got out.
Here already.cunt wrote:I mean, sub-forum.
I'm not sure that's what they meant. More like something about basic posting guidelines so we wouldn't cluster the bandwidth of the forum. I might be wrong, but for once I think I'm not...Lsuoma wrote:Here already.cunt wrote:I mean, sub-forum.
Lsuoma wrote:Here already.cunt wrote:I mean, sub-forum.
Lsuoma wrote:Here already.cunt wrote:I mean, sub-forum.
Go to the poll I just posted, and vote...cunt wrote:
Nobodies finding it buried within Admin & Board structure. I'd never think that's where it'd be... Should be its own sub-forum.
Im not sticking up for him - like I said it looked totally fake to me. He and channel 4 would be in a whole bunch of shit if it came out though. Its fine to con the public just so long as they dont cotton on.decius wrote:Just a couple of considerations, here. No insurance company will ever cover a programme like that, particularly in a country with strict regulations like the UK. I can tell you the specific reasons if you want.mutleyeng wrote:
saw the first one - gotta say it just screamed "fake" to me.. the only thing that remotely gives me reason to question it might be fake would be the backlash if it got out.
Brown has a continuous history of working with stooges and claiming to possess BS powers, like NLP and the ability to send people in a trance at will. But stage hypnosis is something very different from what most people think it is. There's simply no way that he could pull some of the stunts performed in the show (especially those involving memory deletion). In fact, it's pretty bad even by the standards of basic mentalism.
Fucking hell, this is just basic consideration and spending an extra 20 seconds editing your post. Except when I say it, I'm a cranky cunt that hates everyone - which is technically true, but also means I'm joking and don't mean it. Or something. But nothing displays airhead, 'tardbook style peabrainedness more than quoting an entire comment, images video and all, only add "me too!" to the end of it. Stupid habit first entrenched in the '90s by the AOL and WebTV hordes, now normalised and idiots the web over think nothing of it. Fuck you. Edit with CONSIDERATION for your reader. Morons.Lsuoma wrote:And a request - if you're quoting a post that has a YouTube link embedded in it, PLEASE REMOVE THE LINK FROM THE QUOTE!
Oh fuck off, Brown is an entertainer who takes major pains to point out that he doesn't haven't any magic or "powers".Brown has a continuous history of working with stooges and claiming to possess BS powers, like NLP and the ability to send people in a trance at will. But stage hypnosis is something very different from what most people think it is. There's simply no way that he could pull some of the stunts performed in the show (especially those involving memory deletion). In fact, it's pretty bad even by the standards of basic mentalism.
Me too.franc wrote:Fucking hell, this is just basic consideration and spending an extra 20 seconds editing your post. Except when I say it, I'm a cranky cunt that hates everyone - which is technically true, but also means I'm joking and don't mean it. Or something. But nothing displays airhead, 'tardbook style peabrainedness more than quoting an entire comment, images video and all, only add "me too!" to the end of it. Stupid habit first entrenched in the '90s by the AOL and WebTV hordes, now normalised and idiots the web over think nothing of it. Fuck you. Edit with CONSIDERATION for your reader. Morons.Lsuoma wrote:And a request - if you're quoting a post that has a YouTube link embedded in it, PLEASE REMOVE THE LINK FROM THE QUOTE!
I'll have three fuck you's and a scoop of chips thanks.franc wrote:Fucking hell, this is just basic consideration and spending an extra 20 seconds editing your post. Except when I say it, I'm a cranky cunt that hates everyone - which is technically true, but also means I'm joking and don't mean it. Or something. But nothing displays airhead, 'tardbook style peabrainedness more than quoting an entire comment, images video and all, only add "me too!" to the end of it. Stupid habit first entrenched in the '90s by the AOL and WebTV hordes, now normalised and idiots the web over think nothing of it. Fuck you. Edit with CONSIDERATION for your reader. Morons.Lsuoma wrote:And a request - if you're quoting a post that has a YouTube link embedded in it, PLEASE REMOVE THE LINK FROM THE QUOTE!
I'll have the peabrainedness soup and a side of Morons please. Can you make sure the morons are well done? I hate it when they squeal.KiwiInOz wrote:I'll have three fuck you's and a scoop of chips thanks.franc wrote:Fucking hell, this is just basic consideration and spending an extra 20 seconds editing your post. Except when I say it, I'm a cranky cunt that hates everyone - which is technically true, but also means I'm joking and don't mean it. Or something. But nothing displays airhead, 'tardbook style peabrainedness more than quoting an entire comment, images video and all, only add "me too!" to the end of it. Stupid habit first entrenched in the '90s by the AOL and WebTV hordes, now normalised and idiots the web over think nothing of it. Fuck you. Edit with CONSIDERATION for your reader. Morons.Lsuoma wrote:And a request - if you're quoting a post that has a YouTube link embedded in it, PLEASE REMOVE THE LINK FROM THE QUOTE!
Not quite, cunt. For instance, he' s now claiming to be hurt for the suggestion that he used a stooge, which is the same as claiming that it is possible to send someone on an instant trance and induce permanent amnesia. That is a definite claim to a non-existing power.cunt wrote: Oh fuck off, Brown is an entertainer who takes major pains to point out that he doesn't haven't any magic or "powers".
The same to you too. Cheers!
