If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

ReneeHendricks wrote: It's because of this crap I find the whole "we're social warriors" line of bullshit coming from AtheismPlus (and their "leaders", proponents, silent partners, whatever the fuck they're calling themselves) maddening.

It's been obvious to many, many critics, that A+ has never been about social justice of humanism, it's all about a particularly virulent strain of feminism. Nuggets like this just add further evidence to the pile.

You know your "social justice" movement is crap when it can be easily debunked by a homeless man battling the purple-headed yogurt slinger.

Tigzy wrote:If I had a Titter account, I'd be tweeting a link to Dick's post already - cos that's really gonna shit the A+ mods up good and proper, and might even take the heat off poor old Dolly Dillahunty for a while. I admit, I have come to feel a little sorry for him in recent days - not so much 'Otis' Ned Beatty, but 'Deliverance' Ned Beatty getting right shafted by dingbats.

I twitted it.

Rystefn wrote:

Angry_Drunk wrote:Obviously the problem is that whatever city is unfortunate enough to host dear Jenny (don't know and can't be arsed to care) doesn't have a well-thought-out Code of Conduct® to keep this sort of harassment from occurring.

Seattle. I know this because I also live here, and try to make of the local nutjobs to avoid.

I'm in NCW choking on smoke. The worst I ever saw in Seattle, years ago when I was kid, was a tramp picking his nose and eating it down along the waterfront. I've always considered such things as kind of the "color" of the big city.

Hmmm. Provisionally ruling out Submor as A+'s naughty mod, as he has a blog where his persona doesn't seem much different - ie, twerpish.

Remember "the inviolable sanctity of the safe place" or some such crap. Now that particular fantasy of theirs - the biggest one - is compromised beyond repair. They won't be able to carry on as before after some reset. That would take competent adults to achieve.

Gumby wrote:

ReneeHendricks wrote: It's because of this crap I find the whole "we're social warriors" line of bullshit coming from AtheismPlus (and their "leaders", proponents, silent partners, whatever the fuck they're calling themselves) maddening.

It's been obvious to many, many critics, that A+ has never been about social justice of humanism, it's all about a particularly virulent strain of feminism. Nuggets like this just add further evidence to the pile.

You know your "social justice" movement is crap when it can be easily debunked by a homeless man battling the purple-headed yogurt slinger.

That's nearly *exactly* what I've been saying all along. It's feminism. More to the point, it's a little cliquey group of feminists who don't like having their feelings hurt online needing a "safe place" and *NOTHING* more (hence, my Special Snowflake Society name for them).

I twitted it too, thats the reason for the traffic spike

I can't get to work without some crum-bum whacking out the one eyed nip viper and banging it on a trashcan? I can't walk down a road without some vagrant whipping out his old sausage and slapping it against an industrial lead downpipe? I can't flounce across the road without some bearded alcoholic attempting to suck his own dick in the middle of my intersection.

cunt wrote:I can't get to work without some crum-bum whacking out the one eyed nip viper and banging it on a trashcan? I can't walk down a road without some vagrant whipping out his old sausage and slapping it against an industrial lead downpipe? I can't flounce across the road without some bearded alcoholic attempting to suck his own dick in the middle of my intersection.

LOL! This board has been great for laughs today. Hey Cunt, I'm not British, so who is that cunt in your avatar?

cunt wrote: I can't flounce across the road without some bearded alcoholic attempting to suck his own dick in the middle of my intersection.

I thought PZ lived in Minnesota?

Guest wrote:

cunt wrote:I can't get to work without some crum-bum whacking out the one eyed nip viper and banging it on a trashcan? I can't walk down a road without some vagrant whipping out his old sausage and slapping it against an industrial lead downpipe? I can't flounce across the road without some bearded alcoholic attempting to suck his own dick in the middle of my intersection.

LOL! This board has been great for laughs today. Hey Cunt, I'm not British, so who is that cunt in your avatar?

The prime minister.

The best masturbation song ever, has more terms for it than I've heard elsewhere:

[youtube]ShTm8MnUAjo[/youtube]

Angry_Drunk wrote:

Gumby wrote:http://i47.tinypic.com/bdwsva.jpg

For fuck's sake, Laden, save that shit for inside your trailer.


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cunt wrote:I can't get to work without some crum-bum whacking out the one eyed nip viper and banging it on a trashcan? I can't walk down a road without some vagrant whipping out his old sausage and slapping it against an industrial lead downpipe? I can't flounce across the road without some bearded alcoholic attempting to suck his own dick in the middle of my intersection.

I constantly have to wade through beautiful, scantily clad women flicking their beans at me in public. It really is quite a chore but I keep my chin up.

Hilarious stuff regarding the mod. I can imagine 'Homeland' style paranoia hitting the A+ backchannels anytime now.

Anyway, with regard to the apparent turn against A+ by people thought to be "on message", folk like Rebecca Watson and PZ were never really supporters of it anyway. Sure, they gave some thumbs-up vocal shout outs to keep Jen happy, but they kept their distance. Ever they realised what a busted flush A+ was/is, or they are doing just fine (money wise) putting their "efforts" into FtB and Skepchick.

I did have a laugh when Rhys had a tantrum over the "potential rapist" thingy. Hasn't he heard of the "Shrodinger's Rapist" meme doing the rounds on various Baboons channels for the past year and a bit?

Tony Parsehole wrote:

cunt wrote:It really is quite a chore but I keep my chin up.

You must have powerful neck muscles.

Michael K Gray wrote:

Saint N. wrote:It should be noted that Carrier has done a good job keeping his mouth shut since his initial word-vomit.

Not in the least bit true.
He imperiously replied to an accurate calm poster just this morning.
(And keeps responding on his comment threads. I have that thread on RSS feed, and regularly have to clear a handful of posts. From others: exclusively sanely critical, from Dick Carrier: exclusively sociopathic & imperiously infantile.)

He flat-out refuses to accept any blame, and deflects his detractors using the same crude & illogical primary-school tricks that ordinary humans abandon after they turn 12.

Thanks for the correction to what I hope is a forgivable mistake on my part. I would have hoped that Carrier at least had enough sense (however tiny it may be) than to dig himself further into the A+hole. Perhaps I should stop being so optimistic about people.

CommanderTuvok wrote:
Anyway, with regard to the apparent turn against A+ by people thought to be "on message", folk like Rebecca Watson and PZ were never really supporters of it anyway.

I got the impression that RW wasn't too keen on it because Blaghag and others were the main figures involved and she wasn't the centre of attention. PZ seems to have been pulling the strings behind the scenes

Re twitting that mod stuff, I've been highlighted elsewhere to the fact that non-logged visitors can't see certain medias (screencaps included). Anyway to resolve this?

bhoytony wrote:

CommanderTuvok wrote:
Anyway, with regard to the apparent turn against A+ by people thought to be "on message", folk like Rebecca Watson and PZ were never really supporters of it anyway.

I got the impression that RW wasn't too keen on it because Blaghag and others were the main figures involved and she wasn't the centre of attention. PZ seems to have been pulling the strings behind the scenes

PZ did support it, but said that he didn't join the forum because he knew critics would accuse him of orchestrating the whole thing. So his silence was meant to be a strategic move to work in A+theism's favor.

Watson gave a sort of passive and distant nod of approval to the idea, but was largely disinterested in actually getting involved.

Regarding A+'s trollmod: I'm stumped. But I would agree that the likeliest candidate seems to be Piegasm. Weirdly enough, he doesn't seem to be as over-the-top as Maiforpeace; but Mai seems a bit too ready to divulge personal details (about her FB page, for instance) to be thought of as a possible candidate, IMO.

This is, of course, presuming the poe-mod is real; I'm guessing Dick-Strawkins can vouch for his pal?

cunt wrote:
1. Piegasm
2. Flewellyn
3. Maiforpeace

Numbers 4-22 are so far unclaimed. lol, 22 mods and no vetting.

I'm not seeing 22, i only see 13 (crossed off ones i cannot or won;t vote for, will narrow down further, would have taken piegasm personally.

Flewllyn, Maiforpeace, Submor, piegasm, onamission, xanthe, ginny, neamhepleachas, billhaines, elgatocell, nevyn, mcbender and chana.

SPACKlick wrote: I'm not seeing 22, i only see 13

Has the Great Purge begun?

Tigzy:

Typically, Al's post has proved a precursor to some inspired mouth-frothery: http://freethoughtblogs.com/alstefanell ... ment-69004

mythbri wrote:
Oh, also I am physically and mentally healthy. Those, too, are forms of privilege that I possess. Awareness.


All you doctors, nurses, scientists working hard to find vaccines; even you who donate to cancer and HIV charities - you're all just enabling privilege, so just stop. Please stop.

The dishonest wankers are coming over all reasonable in the comments. They're accusing Al of misrepresenting Schrodinger's Rapist and claiming that they are only trying to make people aware of how women might feel in certain circumstances and not trying to impose obligations on men. They have to know that that is NOT how it goes down on their forums.

Had a thought about the Bullfrog recently. You might know that he makes a big thing about being openly disrespectul to religion as a way of encouraging doubters to lose their 'religious awe' and come out as atheists. I wonder if he thinks that ever admitting fault would diminish the effect and that he has transferred the logic to this gender BS.

decius wrote:

SPACKlick wrote: I'm not seeing 22, i only see 13

Has the Great Purge begun?

Here's cunt's "22 mods" screen-shot, anyone with a A+ account who can see the mod-list care to compare the two?

cunt wrote::lol:

http://i.imgur.com/MHDTi.jpg

ruled out a few more

key
voted for
unlikely
pretty sure it's not

SPACKlick wrote: Flewllyn, Maiforpeace, Submor, piegasm, onamission, xanthe, ginny, neamhepleachas, billhaines, elgatocell, nevyn, mcbender and chana.

Phil, this version should be visible to everyone. I hope Dick Strawkins doesn't mind me relaying it.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qamxy0.jpg

It wouldn't be the mods who only have 5 or less posts, as the secret-mole-mod got into the dogpiling game, meaning he likely posted a bit more than 5 times.

Saint N. wrote:
Watson gave a sort of passive and distant nod of approval to the idea, but was largely disinterested in actually getting involved.

Of course RW wasn't interested... it wasn't about her! I've been waiting ever since Jen announced A+ for Watson to find something to get the attention back to her. Jen flouncing likely took the pressure off RW so she can wait and plan a bit better.

I think PZ just thought that A+ was a good idea but with a really low chance of success, so he got his minion Jen to front the idea. Then they all farmed the idea out to the amateurs to run, like that was going to work.

SPACKlick wrote:ruled out a few more

key
voted for
unlikely
pretty sure it's not

SPACKlick wrote: Flewllyn, Maiforpeace, Submor, piegasm, onamission, xanthe, ginny, neamhepleachas, billhaines, elgatocell, nevyn, mcbender and chana.

Guys! Don't do all the work for them! we want them all to be doubting each other!

decius wrote:Phil, this version should be visible to everyone. I hope Dick Strawkins doesn't mind me relaying it.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qamxy0.jpg

Thanksies Decius, twitted your comment.

JAB: seconded!

Sorry JAB, I can't help myself... :)

And it also likely would not be any of the ones who have linked to their blogs, unless this guy poe'd a blog to go with the persona too.

JAB wrote:

SPACKlick wrote:ruled out a few more

Guys! Don't do all the work for them! we want them all to be doubting each other!

Hey, maybe I'm throwing them off...

One vote for onamissions

JAB wrote: Guys! Don't do all the work for them! we want them all to be doubting each other!

Agreed, let them sweat it out and bicker amongst themselves about who the traitor is. The whole forum might collapse in on itself in the process.

JAB wrote: Guys! Don't do all the work for them! we want them all to be doubting each other!

And it would be even better if they started banning each other. Our pool could then be betting who is the last mod standing.

codelette wrote:
On another note and something that was somehow discussed by Skeptickle: do these people do real activism besides the navel gazing and the cashing-in on "preaching to the choir" conferences?
It seems that all they do is sign e-petitions and raise like three bucks to send people to conferences.


Let's put it this way, Jen McCreight (the 'founder' of A+) quit after about a month or so of launching her revolutionary movement to change the public face of atheism. What's left of the idea has been passed on to a bunch of emotionally stunted shut-ins who really don't sound competent enough to organize a 'mass' movement of people, let alone a so called social justice movement.

People who actually do worthwhile stuff generally have enough self-esteem not to spend their time lashing out over trivial slights. They also tend to attract less criticism; something they might want to think about.

It's ok, JAB, there's still seven left for them to fight over, the way I see it. :lol:

Assuming the person is only a global mod and not a site admin, ruling out the low-post-count people, and ruling out the has-a-blog people, leaves only seven mods left in the whodunnit game:

Flewellyn
Onamission5
piegasm
Nevyn
mcbender
maiforpeace
IlGatoCello

Gumby wrote:http://i47.tinypic.com/bdwsva.jpg

Now, I freely admit that not many people want to notice something like that. But masturbating or not, it does seem that Jen McCreight shares the same disdain for homeless men that Ophelia "I can't believe I had to sit near a smelly homeless guy on the bus" Benson does. The guy could be mentally ill, be hungry or cold, need lots of help... but to Jen he's just some disgusting worthless homeless wanker worthy of nothing but a shudder of revulsion. Aren't these people supposed to be social justice warriors? Shouldn't they care about this person, despite his public worm-wrestling? Oh, right, the homeless man wasn't a woman. They don't give a flying fuck. How dare that homeless man violate that poor victimized Jen's right to never feel offended!

I still have two pages to read, but her last tweet, the top one, sounded like she would be ok with it if he asked for her consent first.

Scented Nectar wrote:The best masturbation song ever, has more terms for it than I've heard elsewhere:

I've been reading The Undead Thread but haven't posted since the early days of the ERV thread. Songs about masturbation seem like a good a reason as any to break my silence.

Anyway, here's my, um, personal favorite:

[youtube]pS5LWS5m5h4[/youtube]

The rest of Roy Zimmerman's work is also worth a look.

Ahh the fall of Jen. Once could brag about getting a compliment from Stephen Colbert, now has to settle for being in the vicinity of a homeless guy rubbing one out.

Hi all. Delurking for a moment.

Someone wanted a pic of Laden and Zvan snoogling, so I thought I'd leave this here:

http://i.imgur.com/8g91r.jpg

Badger3k wrote:
I still have two pages to read, but her last tweet, the top one, sounded like she would be ok with it if he asked for her consent first.

I say, good work, that man!

BoxNDox wrote:I've been reading The Undead Thread but haven't posted since the early days of the ERV thread. Songs about masturbation seem like a good a reason as any to break my silence.

Anyway, here's my, um, personal favorite:

pS5LWS5m5h4

The rest of Roy Zimmerman's work is also worth a look.

Heheh, I wonder how many masturbation songs there ARE out there? Could make for an unusual playlist. :)

Well, shit. That was me delurking above with the pic. Somehow, I posted as a Guest. Apologies.

@Guest - LMAO

Its a shame this place cops so much flak, I get some massive laughs here.

Scented Nectar:

It's ok, JAB, there's still seven left for them to fight over, the way I see it.

Assuming the person is only a global mod and not a site admin, ruling out the low-post-count people, and ruling out the has-a-blog people, leaves only seven mods left in the whodunnit game:

Flewellyn
Onamission5
piegasm
Nevyn
mcbender
maiforpeace
IlGatoCello

Surely it has to be mcbender. Gotta be! Can't believe they let that name stand.

acathode wrote:

decius wrote:

SPACKlick wrote: I'm not seeing 22, i only see 13

Has the Great Purge begun?

Here's cunt's "22 mods" screen-shot, anyone with a A+ account who can see the mod-list care to compare the two?

cunt wrote::lol:

http://i.imgur.com/MHDTi.jpg

7pm, Central Merkin Time:

http://s10.postimage.org/qtsipwdhx/Scre ... _49_PM.jpg

I just happen to love the consistent whining from these pathetic A+, FftB, social warrior, rewrite all language cunts that piss and moan about every little fucking thing. Such as "oh no some homeless guy is jerking off so I had to stand and watch because I was getting wet about the thought of whining about it later on the Internet (which also oppresses me ooooo tingle)"

Going on about "where is my safe space, some guy who supports me asked what the rules were and questioned us wahhhhhhh I cried about the mean things he said" and feel violated.

Useless fuckers all of them. Especially, when I read about a kid with actual guts trying to make their world a better place facing actual hardship, of the mortal variety: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/world ... .html?_r=0

Short version: Kid champions a cause for better education and complains about the Taliban. Is shot and left for dead by members of the Taliban. She has survived which means they will try again.

The Taliban publicly placed Ms. Yousafzai on its assassination hit list this spring. Mr. Ehsan added that if she survived, the militants would try to kill her again. “Let this be a lesson,” he said.

Mr. Ehsan is a spokesman for the Taliban.

And useless fucks like "Surly" Amy whine about being unsafe. No you dumb cunt, being unsafe isn't placing your address on the Internet so others can look it up. It is being put on a hit list for trying to make you small slice of the world a bit more bearable. It also isn't getting sloshed and hitting on your reflection at 4am in a hotel elevator, and carrying on about how something almost might have happened for a year. Then bitching about all the "hate mail" you get that is in the thousands of messages which of course is about as real a Joseph Smith's golden tablets. Stupid twat you don't know hate is. This is hate: if she survived, the militants would try to kill her again.

Seeing an actual warrior, Malala Yousafzai, try to bring about change in light of an actual threat, is awe inspiring and I hope that she recovers and is spirited out of the country. Especially given that she's only 14.

Witnessing a bunch of white women whine about privilege, being unsafe on a Internet forum, not doing anything constructive to bring about their goals, pissing and moaning about every little thing and expecting everyone to kowtow towards them is just disgusting.

A hypothetical scenario involving a sex change and a kick in the cunt is far better than a real bullet to your cranium.

*Excuse lapses in logic for being pissed off.

Tigzy wrote:
Carrier certainly did the most damage to the nascent A+ thing - I'm pretty sure that if it wasn't for him, more people might have been prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt.

The were just awed by the overt Freudianism and phollo-centric metaphor of his offering "intellectual artillery" for the mewling Atheism Plus movement.

I swear, it's all about dicks with that guy.

I'm close to striking Piegasm off the list - though she (as it turns out) was pretty furious with Dillahunty, and certainly appears to have been a keen dogpiler in her early A+ days, after shovelling through a lot of cess at that forum, I can't find her threatening to flounce over Dolly's sins. Also, the tone of Dick's email seems male to me...but then again, Piegasm's tone seemed male to me at first, so whodafuc knows...unless the poe is posing as a female...

Ape+lust wrote:Well, shit. That was me delurking above with the pic. Somehow, I posted as a Guest. Apologies.

Brilliant! This place has been especially entertaining today.

Sulaco wrote:Seeing an actual warrior, Malala Yousafzai, try to bring about change in light of an actual threat, is awe inspiring and I hope that she recovers and is spirited out of the country. Especially given that she's only 14.

What about all the other kids left behind? How has 'not being in Pakistan' helped the personal safety of people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

I read this earlier today and didnt know what to say.

And I dont know whether you all saw my post today on ERV, but this insane guy, president of Gambia, in between boiling herbs to cure AIDS, tried to put some men to death for, get this, 'offensive T-shirts'. Congrats, Cry-Baby-Amy, your train of logic mirrors that of an unquestionably insane dictator. Kudos to you.

Sorry, Sulaco, that came off bitchy-- I am bitchy at the situation, didnt mean to be bitchy with you.

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Surely it has to be mcbender. Gotta be! Can't believe they let that name stand.

Prolly not - mcbender's last post was on Sep 1st, way before Dillagate blew up.

cunt wrote:Atheism+ really needs to shift its focus away from internet forums and back towards buying necklaces and t-shirts in my humble opinion.

Eventually, through the glorious principles of Athiplus, all discussions including race, class, genocide will be streamlined and folded up into a dozen or so women discussion their vaginas: What it is, What it does, whether expecting it to be springtime fresh is an aspect of the male hegemony of control and oppression, who wants it, who gets it and why not you, cowboy?

Ape+lust wrote:Well, shit. That was me delurking above with the pic. Somehow, I posted as a Guest. Apologies.

By the way, I have placed your work where it is less easily lost with the passage of time.
http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 649#p18649

My money is on BillHaines.

ERV wrote: What about all the other kids left behind? How has 'not being in Pakistan' helped the personal safety of people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

I read this earlier today and didnt know what to say.

And I dont know whether you all saw my post today on ERV, but this insane guy, president of Gambia, in between boiling herbs to cure AIDS, tried to put some men to death for, get this, 'offensive T-shirts'. Congrats, Cry-Baby-Amy, your train of logic mirrors that of an unquestionably insane dictator. Kudos to you.

Yeah, these people are NOT AT ALL the totalitarian thugs they're made out to be. That's a gross misrepresentation of facts. CITATION NEEDED! lol :goatse:

So, missing from today's list (as compared to cunt's list) of active moderators / site admins:

Pteryxx
Chana
AdamGordon
JediPsychologist
Ibis3

drolrevo wrote:

ERV wrote: What about all the other kids left behind? How has 'not being in Pakistan' helped the personal safety of people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali?

I read this earlier today and didnt know what to say.

And I dont know whether you all saw my post today on ERV, but this insane guy, president of Gambia, in between boiling herbs to cure AIDS, tried to put some men to death for, get this, 'offensive T-shirts'. Congrats, Cry-Baby-Amy, your train of logic mirrors that of an unquestionably insane dictator. Kudos to you.

Yeah, these people are NOT AT ALL the totalitarian thugs they're made out to be. That's a gross misrepresentation of facts. CITATION NEEDED! lol :goatse:

We have a goatse smiley? I'm so gonna post more often!