Periodic Table of Swearing

#19081

Git wrote:
Pinker wrote:
If you follow the thread forward you'll see that she is definitely referring to Author.
Yes, you're right. Sorry.
Just a note to say I approve of your feline avatar.

I, also. Welcome, zou3gou3! :animals-cat:

#19082

How did https://twitter.com/SamanthaBoal get the Becky herpes photo? Is it an inside job, to get her sympathy? I wouldn't put it past her, or her foul mouthed acolytes.

#19083

Scented Nectar wrote: The food and sometimes the music are the only good things about that religion. The rabbi I tormented above was only a reformed one. I went easier on him than my previous orthodox one.

Despite my always being a bad kid in both his Windsor synogogue and its hebrew school, I'm kind of sad to see in Wiki that he died earlier this year, and only a few months after his more well known father died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_V._Plaut

The early to mid 70s must have been a long time ago, I'm now realizing. By his wiki picture, I would have thought he looked familiar, but I wouldn't have been able to place him as one of the rabbis I tormented with questions they didn't want to hear, like does 'man shall' in the torah mean females don't have to do it? Haha. He got off easy. The previous orthodox one had to deal with my asking at 6 years old who Adam and Eve's children married and had children with, since Adam, Eve, and their sons were the only people in the world. He kept giving non-answers and answers that conflicted with no other humans yet, so I kept asking, even explaining to him that their sons would need wives, but they have to be not from their own family, in case he didn't know that. Hahah, good times! :lol:

Don't forget about about A & E's twenty or more daughters ('cause they lived like, eight or nine hundred years - not that a year in those days was as good as a year these days). Incest didn't become a crime until well after they invented murder. There's also the suggestion that anybody hanging 'round in the Land of Nod was not actually a "person" - though it sounds like Caine had a bit of experimentation to find that out.

See? There's a million ways to while away a life gibbering about this nonsense.

For all that, yes, I confess to sorrow whenever a decent person dies, whatever their beliefs, and I hope that decent folk will do the same for me over a bottle or two of better than average whisk(e)y.

The 70's do seem a long way back - perhaps (like me) "it is Margaret you mourn for"?

#19084

Struth wrote:How did https://twitter.com/SamanthaBoal get the Becky herpes photo? Is it an inside job, to get her sympathy? I wouldn't put it past her, or her foul mouthed acolytes.

It's probably a flicker account photo. There are hundreds of pics of various skepchick events there.
I doubt that this samanthaboals character is anything other than a pathetic troll.

#19085

Sorry Scented, that came over as rather more of a buzzkill than I intended. Just blame it on "thoughts of a dry brain in a dry season".

Back to the lulz!

#19086

oolon, slimy turd wrote:
welch wrote: Nah, it's specifically Oolon being a slowly desiccating shitball. He's trying to be on everyone's side, and simultaneously hold himself out as the soul of objectivity and reasoned discourse.

It's all bullshit of course, and he's really bad at it. (Pro tip for the ooly one: when everyone can see what you're posting in multiple places, with the game you're playing, you have to think about what you write more, possibly even keep notes. We get you think everyone but you is a blithering idiot, but, it is VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO BE STUPIDER THAN YOU THINK THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO BULLSHIT ARE. Really. You're failing that one big time.)
How about proving that one John? Where have I expressed support or anti-feminist ideals here while simultaneously 'kissing up to' whoever you think I brown-nose on FtBs and expressing diametrically opposed viewpoints?

Oh aren't you just the cutest thing.

#19087

AnonymousCowherd wrote:Don't forget about about A & E's twenty or more daughters ('cause they lived like, eight or nine hundred years - not that a year in those days was as good as a year these days). Incest didn't become a crime until well after they invented murder. There's also the suggestion that anybody hanging 'round in the Land of Nod was not actually a "person" - though it sounds like Caine had a bit of experimentation to find that out.

See? There's a million ways to while away a life gibbering about this nonsense.

For all that, yes, I confess to sorrow whenever a decent person dies, whatever their beliefs, and I hope that decent folk will do the same for me over a bottle or two of better than average whisk(e)y.

The 70's do seem a long way back - perhaps (like me) "it is Margaret you mourn for"?

That's probably the stuff he tried to explain to me. I remember the argument being a long one. I hated hebrew school, since that was where they taught me lies. I went to 3 different ones. An orthodox one around 5 and 6 years old (the Adam and Eve questions), a hebrew day school (had excellent 'normal' school subjects taught in the morning, and hebrew language/torah bullshit all afternoon), and then the reformed place where I wore a kippa into a holiday service.

Any idea who this pissed off 7 year old is in this picture? Hint: it's at a grade 2 hebrew day school class, many many years ago. She looks like a very unhappy camper who's questions the lying religious people won't answer. If Ophelia is looking for lying liars, I can give her all my rabbis and hebrew school teachers.

http://www.scentednectar.com/slimepit/0 ... icture.png

#19088

Hmm, maybe that was grade 3. I dunno.

#19089

Oolon do you need reminding of your participation in the pyt, posting pally pally comments, and generally squidging comfortably onto the slyme.

Za-zen wrote:
Oolon hasn't taken the official entrance exam, evidenced by his refusal to admit to wheter he likes fishsticks. By oolon's reasoning he is therefore not a pitter.

Oolon wrote:
Sure I like fishsticks, who doesn't. They taste rreaalll good in your mouth, all salty and warm. Hmmm I can imagine a big one in there right now!

#19090

Scented Nectar wrote:Hmm, maybe that was grade 3. I dunno.

O sweet!.

Clearly your school was underprivilged and couldn't afford three notes at once for a whole chord. It also looks like one of the intent fans is about to hit Leonard Kohen there over the head with that crappy guitar.

I'm eternally grateful our house was entirely secular. When I was about 8, my mother took me past several "places of worship" (she wasn't too fussy what they were) and said ;
"You can go to one of them if you want"
"What do they do?"
"They give talks about not being bad"
"How long do you have to go there?"
"Every week. At least."
"No thanks then."
"OK. Just don't say I never told you about religion."

After that, the subject just never came up again. Culture? Schmulture.

#19091

Za-zen wrote:Oolon do you need reminding of your participation in the pyt, posting pally pally comments, and generally squidging comfortably onto the slyme.

Za-zen wrote:
Oolon hasn't taken the official entrance exam, evidenced by his refusal to admit to wheter he likes fishsticks. By oolon's reasoning he is therefore not a pitter.

Oolon wrote:
Sure I like fishsticks, who doesn't. They taste rreaalll good in your mouth, all salty and warm. Hmmm I can imagine a big one in there right now!

Hehe is that the secret handshake? Liking South Park? .... I saw your odd fish sticks posts and thought I could either ignore / pretend to not know what the reference was and lead you on / acquiesce and make a joke out of it... I usually make a joke if given the option.

Is that a homophobic joke? Nope.. Try harder. To be a Pitter you must be at one with the misogyny, obsession and hate of all things FtBs :evil: !! Interesting question actually what makes a Pitter a Pitter? Its not just posting here even in PZs mind -- he knew I posted here ages ago...

#19092

Ahhh grasshopper, are you really asserting that the pyt is mysoginist? If so please provide evidence . To be a pytter is not synonymous with hating all things ftb. It is to hate hypocracy, dogma, quashing of dissent, bad arguments, and radical ideologues attempting to hijack movements to serve their own political ends.

Being disgusted at ftb is just a natural consequence.

#19093

That word again...the one that so few FftBers and A+ers know the true meaning. You know the one. Figures it drips from the mouths of certain people.

#19094

ray cumfart wrote:who the fuck would want to kink it up with a woman that looks like willy wonka ?

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 2d4985.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161449.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161458.jpg

Review:
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161450.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 1444-1.jpg

http://www.gretachristina.com/thinking.html
http://www.intporn.com/forums/vintage-c ... 988-a.html

#19095

Pinker wrote:
real horrorshow wrote:I wonder, is Jen going to get around to pronouncing her love child as officially aborted? Or is she going to continue being ever-so-busy-with-anything-else and hope no one notices?
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 427274.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8093 ... 6af13e.jpg

Yeah, activism. Three mouse-clicks of activism. Yeah.

#19096

I suppose Greta isn't all bad.

#19097

papillon wrote:
ray cumfart wrote:who the fuck would want to kink it up with a woman that looks like willy wonka ?
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 2d4985.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161449.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161458.jpg

Review:
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 161450.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 1444-1.jpg

http://www.gretachristina.com/thinking.html
http://www.intporn.com/forums/vintage-c ... 988-a.html

http://unicornbutterwomen.com/wp-conten ... _vomit.jpg

#19098

papillon wrote: http://www.gretachristina.com/thinking.html

From the link:

It's just that whenever I hear a phrase like "that's something women only do to please men," my Dworkinite Early Warning System goes off like a fire alarm.

It's good that she has such an alarm; I fear, though, that it is in need of a routine calibration.

#19099

Hey Oolon! Greta called gay men "faggots". Go get her Oolon!

#19100

Lsuoma wrote:Racist indeed:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7272/6886 ... fcbf_z.jpg

Oh look it's the gay cowboy from Backfat Mountain.

#19101

real horrorshow wrote:
Pinker wrote:
real horrorshow wrote:I wonder, is Jen going to get around to pronouncing her love child as officially aborted? Or is she going to continue being ever-so-busy-with-anything-else and hope no one notices?
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 427274.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8093 ... 6af13e.jpg
Yeah, activism. Three mouse-clicks of activism. Yeah.

Loving the part where some brainiac realises you can "vote up the entry EVERYDAY". Are these people really going to bother clicking on an Urban Dictionary entry every single day? /rhetorical question.

#19102

Badger3k wrote:If your safeword is "Laden", you know you're up the creek with a paddle shoved up your backside.

I've mentioned this before (a good while back though), but Laden is, very conspicuously, not a Dom but a sub, and one in desperate need of a good Domme. His public cringing before totally unsuitable females suggests to me that he would be a much happier person if he had a BDSM-experienced dominant woman in his life. A good spanking session, followed by permission to wank, at regular intervals and we'd hear little or nothing from him.

#19103

Rystefn wrote:QFT.

If you ain't got scars and broken bones, then you haven't even scratched the surface of BDSM. Don't get me wrong, I'm usually the first one to give people shit for trying to play the who's a bigger masochist game (and all the variations on the theme), but fuck a duck, there's a line below which you don't fucking count, and you shouldn't open your mouth and try to count yourself as part of the group. It's like those people who go bungee jumping once ever trying to call themselves adrenaline junkies. That shit is annoying as fuck.

From what I've learned and experienced about BDSM - and I'm a dabbler rather than an expert - there are shades to suit almost everyone. The couple who spice up routine missionary with a little light spanking from time to time, are doing what they need to do as much as those who take matters to the farthest extremes. Though I'd agree that if you're trying to write fiction that will be a turn-on for BDSM-ers worrying about 'triggers' is a hopeless way to begin.

#19104

AnonymousCowherd wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:Hmm, maybe that was grade 3. I dunno.
O sweet!.

Clearly your school was underprivilged and couldn't afford three notes at once for a whole chord. It also looks like one of the intent fans is about to hit Leonard Kohen there over the head with that crappy guitar.

I was probably pissed off at something they taught me, despite dutifully looking at the guitar like we were supposed to. I got along with that guy until we were a bit older.

#19105

real horrorshow wrote:
Badger3k wrote:If your safeword is "Laden", you know you're up the creek with a paddle shoved up your backside.
I've mentioned this before (a good while back though), but Laden is, very conspicuously, not a Dom but a sub, and one in desperate need of a good Domme. His public cringing before totally unsuitable females suggests to me that he would be a much happier person if he had a BDSM-experienced dominant woman in his life. A good spanking session, followed by permission to wank, at regular intervals and we'd hear little or nothing from him.

Maybe we should take up a collection for him, or start one of those Kickstarter things. On just his good looks and lovely personality alone, he's never gonna find one for a relationship, and living in a trailer park, he probably can't afford a pro.

#19106

oolon, slimy turd wrote:
Za-zen wrote:Oolon do you need reminding of your participation in the pyt, posting pally pally comments, and generally squidging comfortably onto the slyme.

Za-zen wrote:
Oolon hasn't taken the official entrance exam, evidenced by his refusal to admit to wheter he likes fishsticks. By oolon's reasoning he is therefore not a pitter.

Oolon wrote:
Sure I like fishsticks, who doesn't. They taste rreaalll good in your mouth, all salty and warm. Hmmm I can imagine a big one in there right now!
Hehe is that the secret handshake? Liking South Park? .... I saw your odd fish sticks posts and thought I could either ignore / pretend to not know what the reference was and lead you on / acquiesce and make a joke out of it... I usually make a joke if given the option.

Is that a homophobic joke? Nope.. Try harder. To be a Pitter you must be at one with the misogyny, obsession and hate of all things FtBs :evil: !! Interesting question actually what makes a Pitter a Pitter? Its not just posting here even in PZs mind -- he knew I posted here ages ago...

No, to be a pitter one only has to disagree with the FtB crowd. Your disagreement can be for any number of reasons. There are postings on here I disagree with, but we all have one thing in common; We disagree with censorship of others views simply to have groupthink and we are (likely) all atheists. If you happened to see my open letter to PZ you will note that as a female I am much more frightened of PZ and his FtB crowd than I am of the men on here. I've had my share of online and real life harassment from the Internet. I would not expect harassment from anyone on here but I have seen state collapse proof the FtB crowd has stalkers that take it to real life harassment level.

You have pushed people here very hard to the point you are being ignored by some, and I am not sure why you are doing this. I am not sure you are a troll. Perhaps you really do think that everyone here is the same. That we are all homophobes, transphobes, obsessive and hateful of FtB. I can tell you that personally I have no time in my life for hate, it does not get things done. I am also not obsessive of FtB. I really don't care what happens with FtB now, which is part of the reason I rarely post here anymore. I can tell you I do like some of humour here and I like seeing hypocrisy exposed. I also despise bullies and I am very happy to see people standing up to them now.

Oolon if you can get it through your head that we are not all the same, that yes some on here are still very angry at the bullying PZ and his crowd have done, and it's not a cesspool of misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, if it was I would not be here. Have you read any criticisms of PZ from John Loftus ? Or even Thunderfoot? What are you here to do?

#19107

papillon wrote:
ray cumfart wrote:who the fuck would want to kink it up with a woman that looks like willy wonka ?
[snipped to remove Greta's prediliction for taking it up the marmite motorway]

http://www.gretachristina.com/thinking.html
http://www.intporn.com/forums/vintage-c ... 988-a.html

That has made my intestines squirm. How horrible. Imagine pulling out of her and finding a bit of sweetcorn on the end. Ugh!

#19108

real horrorshow wrote:
Badger3k wrote:If your safeword is "Laden", you know you're up the creek with a paddle shoved up your backside.
I've mentioned this before (a good while back though), but Laden is, very conspicuously, not a Dom but a sub, and one in desperate need of a good Domme. His public cringing before totally unsuitable females suggests to me that he would be a much happier person if he had a BDSM-experienced dominant woman in his life. A good spanking session, followed by permission to wank, at regular intervals and we'd hear little or nothing from him.

I've generally found that one's kink seems to be the direct opposite of what their day-to-day persona entails. For example, someone who has a high-powered professional job where they get to boss lots of people around tends to go for kinks in which they can be submissive, and vice-versa. Not conclusive by any means, though I have always wondered why whenever a British politician gets caught with his trousers round his ankles, it's usually because he's bent over a chair getting his pudgy arse thrashed by a domme in a gown and mortarboard.

Which is one of the reasons I suspect Greg and Steffie's loveplay - if such exists, of course - would likely involve nazi-uniforms, given how much they protest how they are all for equality etc., yet can't help but let slip the occasional yet glaring Reichskommandant attitude.

#19109

Dilurk wrote: You [Oolon] have pushed people here very hard to the point you are being ignored by some, and I am not sure why you are doing this. I am not sure you are a troll. Perhaps you really do think that everyone here is the same. That we are all homophobes, transphobes, obsessive and hateful of FtB. I can tell you that personally I have no time in my life for hate, it does not get things done. I am also not obsessive of FtB. I really don't care what happens with FtB now, which is part of the reason I rarely post here anymore. I can tell you I do like some of humour here and I like seeing hypocrisy exposed. I also despise bullies and I am very happy to see people standing up to them now.

I'm generally ignoring him now because I feel a bit sorry for him. He's like a poor little lost limpet in need of a new home to suck on to.

#19110

Dilurk wrote:
oolon, slimy turd wrote:
Za-zen wrote:Oolon do you need reminding of your participation in the pyt, posting pally pally comments, and generally squidging comfortably onto the slyme.

Za-zen wrote:
Oolon hasn't taken the official entrance exam, evidenced by his refusal to admit to wheter he likes fishsticks. By oolon's reasoning he is therefore not a pitter.

Oolon wrote:
Sure I like fishsticks, who doesn't. They taste rreaalll good in your mouth, all salty and warm. Hmmm I can imagine a big one in there right now!
Hehe is that the secret handshake? Liking South Park? .... I saw your odd fish sticks posts and thought I could either ignore / pretend to not know what the reference was and lead you on / acquiesce and make a joke out of it... I usually make a joke if given the option.

Is that a homophobic joke? Nope.. Try harder. To be a Pitter you must be at one with the misogyny, obsession and hate of all things FtBs :evil: !! Interesting question actually what makes a Pitter a Pitter? Its not just posting here even in PZs mind -- he knew I posted here ages ago...
No, to be a pitter one only has to disagree with the FtB crowd. Your disagreement can be for any number of reasons. There are postings on here I disagree with, but we all have one thing in common; We disagree with censorship of others views simply to have groupthink and we are (likely) all atheists. If you happened to see my open letter to PZ you will note that as a female I am much more frightened of PZ and his FtB crowd than I am of the men on here. I've had my share of online and real life harassment from the Internet. I would not expect harassment from anyone on here but I have seen state collapse proof the FtB crowd has stalkers that take it to real life harassment level.

You have pushed people here very hard to the point you are being ignored by some, and I am not sure why you are doing this. I am not sure you are a troll. Perhaps you really do think that everyone here is the same. That we are all homophobes, transphobes, obsessive and hateful of FtB. I can tell you that personally I have no time in my life for hate, it does not get things done. I am also not obsessive of FtB. I really don't care what happens with FtB now, which is part of the reason I rarely post here anymore. I can tell you I do like some of humour here and I like seeing hypocrisy exposed. I also despise bullies and I am very happy to see people standing up to them now.

Oolon if you can get it through your head that we are not all the same, that yes some on here are still very angry at the bullying PZ and his crowd have done, and it's not a cesspool of misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, if it was I would not be here. Have you read any criticisms of PZ from John Loftus ? Or even Thunderfoot? What are you here to do?

oolon makes the argument that using particular swear words as insults against women equates to misogyny.
He says that using these words is the equivalent of using the word "nigger" to insult a black person.
At the same time he doesn't find a problem using the same words as insults against a man.

I read his argument as being similar to that of second wave feminism - patriarchal privilege theory.
But, as you might expect from oolon, his version of the argument is not particularly consistent. If he wants to esconce himself up Ophelia's back channel he'll have to stop using those insults altogether (women's private parts must NOT be used as insults- except by Rebecca) and switch to approved pejoratives like "bastard".

#19111

Here's all the words I find offensive. Please refrain from using them against me in any instance that you might wish to offend to me:

#19112

cunt wrote:Here's all the words I find offensive. Please refrain from using them against me in any instance that you might wish to offend to me:

Those?

You are a bad person. You say horrible things and you should feel bad about yourself.

/horrible attempt at illiterate humour

#19113

Hi hater, let me just strap a big target to my back and hand you some arrows. Don't shoot me though, i'll be pretty buzzed off if you do. ;)

#19114

Dick Strawkins wrote:
oolon makes the argument that using particular swear words as insults against women equates to misogyny.
He says that using these words is the equivalent of using the word "nigger" to insult a black person.
At the same time he doesn't find a problem using the same words as insults against a man.

After watching the rest of you lot take on Oolon, I was reluctant to even bother. The way I see it, it's not words themselves that have power, it is the physical stick the bully is holding as he yells nigger at his victim. This goes for all words of course. It is interesting to see that sometimes words used with the stick, often get picked up and gentrified. It did not surprise me to hear that the word cunt has been turned into a generic insult word in other places than the sweet pure, clean and puritan North American milieu. That said, I see no advantage in inserting semantically void expletives into my writing just for the sake of it, except when talking about a real cunt (or bastard). There are even words that are used by communities internally in a joking way between each other, but are considered offensive outside the community. Nigger, faggot and tranny I suppose would be examples. As an adult (doing all my embroidering) all I have to say to Oolon now is, "grow up, become an adult".

I read his argument as being similar to that of second wave feminism - patriarchal privilege theory.
But, as you might expect from oolon, his version of the argument is not particularly consistent. If he wants to esconce himself up Ophelia's back channel he'll have to stop using those insults altogether (women's private parts must NOT be used as insults- except by Rebecca) and switch to approved pejoratives like "bastard".

Here I am not sure if that was Oolon's intent or not. If he was arguing context and intent are important I'd agree with them but I just don't see that there was anything profound or difficult in understanding that. If Oolon really is saying that one must never ever use cunt and must use bastard instead, then I might be tempted to call Oolon a cunt just to see how they react. That would be my inner child speaking though and, not very adult.

P.S.
Oh to quell any possible misunderstanding. No, I do not hate you Oolon. Life is too short for that.

#19115

Here's a flow diagram of ways to piss me off.

#19116

If "author" posted in this thread I hope somebody told him that Jesus and Mo is terrible even by webcomic standards.

#19117

Dick Strawkins wrote: I read his argument as being similar to that of second wave feminism - patriarchal privilege theory.
But, as you might expect from oolon, his version of the argument is not particularly consistent. If he wants to esconce himself up Ophelia's back channel he'll have to stop using those insults altogether (women's private parts must NOT be used as insults- except by Rebecca) and switch to approved pejoratives like "bastard".

Ahh now that is actually a good point, I'm surprised Dick. I do modify my language dependant on the forum. But this is not a Slime-FtBs phenomenon I also modify my language when I'm staying at my in-laws for example (Remember the two Methodist Ministers I have to spend time with?) But when I'm with my mates I use considerably more profanity... Why do you think that is? I'm a hypocrite!?

At FtBs there is clearly a set of policies that language is important - Pharyngula has probably the most lax rules and you are positively encouraged to be very rude to people. The other blogs less so. They all adhere to the policy that use of slurs in a particular context to degrade is taboo, and I always adhere to that one anyway (Before I even started reading there). But also no one I can see uses 'twat' 'bitch' etc in everyday conversation either - so I follow the local 'rules' as a matter of courtesy, no one is forcing me and I don't then *have* to believe that *should* apply to all situations in my life as a result.

Here the locals seem to not be offended by strong language so I feel happy to use it up to my own personal moral standard of not using to degrade the person. Clear now?

#19118

cunt wrote:If "author" posted in this thread I hope somebody told him that Jesus and Mo is terrible even by webcomic standards.

Blasphemy! :shock:

Jesus and Mo is great.
It is rather restricted, though. It's like an extended in-joke based on the accomodationism / new atheism debate. If you don't pay attention to that then it isn't going to seem half as funny to you.

#19119

No its the shit ramblings of a 15 year old "fuck you dad" atheist put into comic form. Sorry.

#19120

oolon, slimy turd wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote: I read his argument as being similar to that of second wave feminism - patriarchal privilege theory.
But, as you might expect from oolon, his version of the argument is not particularly consistent. If he wants to esconce himself up Ophelia's back channel he'll have to stop using those insults altogether (women's private parts must NOT be used as insults- except by Rebecca) and switch to approved pejoratives like "bastard".
Ahh now that is actually a good point, I'm surprised Dick. I do modify my language dependant on the forum. But this is not a Slime-FtBs phenomenon I also modify my language when I'm staying at my in-laws for example (Remember the two Methodist Ministers I have to spend time with?) But when I'm with my mates I use considerably more profanity... Why do you think that is? I'm a hypocrite!?

At FtBs there is clearly a set of policies that language is important - Pharyngula has probably the most lax rules and you are positively encouraged to be very rude to people. The other blogs less so. They all adhere to the policy that use of slurs in a particular context to degrade is taboo, and I always adhere to that one anyway (Before I even started reading there). But also no one I can see uses 'twat' 'bitch' etc in everyday conversation either - so I follow the local 'rules' as a matter of courtesy, no one is forcing me and I don't then *have* to believe that *should* apply to all situations in my life as a result.

Here the locals seem to not be offended by strong language so I feel happy to use it up to my own personal moral standard of not using to degrade the person. Clear now?

Now, you should be careful with this approach. When, more than a year ago, I stated I was not going to use any slur at Pharyngula but was free to use them elsewhere, I was attacked by the baboons then banned. It's a really thin line to walk on.

Sorry, no links, the comments on the thread were disapeared.

#19121

So they're annoyed that other people. On other forums don't adhere to their forum rules. Oh shit :violin:

#19122

However, I think that he, and many of the FTB bunch, simply fails to recognize that the perspective here is that those epithets, certainly the latter and arguably the former, are not really, depending on context, racist and misogynistic. For instance, there is this comment of his:

But seriously context and cultural mores are irrelevant in the Slymepit when they say clearly and unequivocally things like â€¦ (Sorry Ophelia)
â€¦ you sneaky b****, O*****. What a terribly unethical c*** you are â€¦
With no *â€™sâ€¦ I would hope that *any* person not just *any* leader like Al or JV would say something when seeing that. It is clearly misogyny and should not be tolerated by a rational sceptic-atheist community (I would hope).

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See, this is why I don't like him. That whole comment is just oozing damage control and it's clear he's trying to back into their good graces. It's pitiful. If you were at least trying to be honest about it, Oolon, maybe I wouldn't be sitting here thinking you're a slimy little toad that are no worse than Tony Blair. Twat.

#19123

Pitchguest wrote:
Steersman wrote:However, I think that he, and many of the FTB bunch, simply fails to recognize that the perspective here is that those epithets, certainly the latter and arguably the former, are not really, depending on context, racist and misogynistic. For instance, there is this comment of his:

But seriously context and cultural mores are irrelevant in the Slymepit when they say clearly and unequivocally things like â€¦ (Sorry Ophelia)
â€¦ you sneaky b****, O*****. What a terribly unethical c*** you are â€¦
With no *â€™sâ€¦ I would hope that *any* person not just *any* leader like Al or JV would say something when seeing that. It is clearly misogyny and should not be tolerated by a rational sceptic-atheist community (I would hope).
See, this is why I don't like him. That whole comment is just oozing damage control and it's clear he's trying to back into their good graces. It's pitiful. If you were at least trying to be honest about it, Oolon, maybe I wouldn't be sitting here thinking you're a slimy little toad that are no worse than Tony Blair. Twat.

Fixed.

#19124

Guest wrote:I notice that in her 'Liars' denunciation Ophelia is happy to use the term 'bastards' to describe her critics here. I'd be interested to hear her justify her use of this slur, which is offensive to all whose parents were not properly married by the Church. I'm horrified at her total disregard for the splash damage done by this sort of group insult, and her perpetuation of a horrible prejudice. I'm especially appalled to hear this from an atheist and a progressive, who should know better and who _does_ know better, as we see from her right-on policing of other people's insults.

Allow me to have demonstrated her hypocrisy to her:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... ent-310312

Fully expecting that one to disappear into the memory hole too of course - hence screencapping it.

#19125

Here's a funny practical joke that you can do. Find Brownian and kick him to death. :lol:

#19126

Pitchguest wrote:
However, I think that he, and many of the FTB bunch, simply fails to recognize that the perspective here is that those epithets, certainly the latter and arguably the former, are not really, depending on context, racist and misogynistic. For instance, there is this comment of his:

But seriously context and cultural mores are irrelevant in the Slymepit when they say clearly and unequivocally things like â€¦ (Sorry Ophelia)
â€¦ you sneaky b****, O*****. What a terribly unethical c*** you are â€¦
With no *â€™sâ€¦ I would hope that *any* person not just *any* leader like Al or JV would say something when seeing that. It is clearly misogyny and should not be tolerated by a rational sceptic-atheist community (I would hope).
See, this is why I don't like him. That whole comment is just oozing damage control and it's clear he's trying to back into their good graces. It's pitiful. If you were at least trying to be honest about it, Oolon, maybe I wouldn't be sitting here thinking you're a slimy little toad that are no worse than Tony Blair. Twat.

Since cultural differences have been my arguments since almost day 1 of this shitfest, I'll just assume bad faith on Oolon.

#19127

SteveW68 wrote: Fully expecting that one to disappear into the memory hole too of course - hence screencapping it.

And there it was..... gone. Gotta love the PrintScrn button!

#19128

Dick Strawkins wrote:OK, Author has said that the name Ophelia used isn't his real name.
That's enough for me.

Maybe not his real name, but I don't reckon she knew that when she posted this:

http://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/201 ... ent-100950

Ophelia Benson
July 27, 2011 at 3:53 pm

Use of male pronoun, probably. Anyway yes. Heâ€™s anonymous but not as secretive as all that; heâ€™s let it be known via a link at J and M that his name is Dave. Besides I know who he is, and have for a long time (he told me). Weâ€™re friends, at least in my view, despite not having met.

She certainly appears to think that's his name while bragging about how she 'knows' him. Is it OK to (semi) out someone if you fuck it up?

#19129

Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.

#19130

SteveW68 wrote: And there it was..... gone. Gotta love the PrintScrn button!

My mistake! Second one went through.

#19131

cunt wrote:Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.

Maybe Patrick from Ireland can come out of hiding now.

#19132

cunt wrote:Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.

I appreciate it's a common enough name, but given that Ophelia claims to be 'friends' with him what's to say that someone who has taken exception to the J & M page doesn't decide to target one of Ophelia's seven Facebook friends called David or Dave? Islamic fundamentalists have reacted to slimmer 'evidence'.

#19133

soldierwhy wrote:
cunt wrote:Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.
I appreciate it's a common enough name, but given that Ophelia claims to be 'friends' with him what's to say that someone who has taken exception to the J & M page doesn't decide to target one of Ophelia's seven Facebook friends called David or Dave? Islamic fundamentalists have reacted to slimmer 'evidence'.

Is there actually any evidence that islamic fundamentalists know what the fuck Jesus and Mo is because up until a couple of days ago I didn't.

#19134

cunt wrote:
soldierwhy wrote:
cunt wrote:Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.
I appreciate it's a common enough name, but given that Ophelia claims to be 'friends' with him what's to say that someone who has taken exception to the J & M page doesn't decide to target one of Ophelia's seven Facebook friends called David or Dave? Islamic fundamentalists have reacted to slimmer 'evidence'.
Is there actually any evidence that islamic fundamentalists know what the fuck Jesus and Mo is because up until a couple of days ago I didn't.

Some of the strips were actually published in a Danish newspaper. You know how much those peace loving Islamic types love cartoons of Mohammed.

#19135

Ah, at least there are traces of my "cultural input":

http://www.scentednectar.com/slimepit-a ... 0Vegas.htm

Starting comment 1278, dated july 25 2011

#19136

Here's the A-news with Al+ Stefanelli talking about the proper way to prepare a christmas dinner for baby jesus
and something about a blog...http://a-news.apartmentj.com/?p=749

#19137

Speaking of Islamic fundamentalists, to change the subject, a couple of days ago I saw a video where a Muslim women were teaching her child 'Salat' (praying ritual) and I guess you could say I was kind of ... repulsed. However, I decided I was going to be courteous and write a response that was straightforward but polite.

I wrote:Oh come on, don't do this. Let her grow up first, get an education and then if she wants to be Muslim, then it'll be her choice. To dub a 20 month old baby "Muslim" is so wrong. She'sï»¿ adorable, but please don't subject her to religion until she's old enough to make up her own mind.

This is what she responded with two days later,

We are all born muslim, we are all born in submission to God, Allah gave all of us fitrah since we were inside our mother's womb, but for so many people , that fitrah later on in life gets corrupted and deviated from the truth. I find it beautiful toï»¿ teach our children to learn how to pray and to be thankful to Allah everyday for all he has given us. She was born muslim, and inshaAllah will remain so for the rest of her life. Ameen.

:doh:

Unbelievable.

This is the video:

[youtube]J6c1JQjbEeA[/youtube]

#19138

soldierwhy wrote:
cunt wrote:
soldierwhy wrote:
cunt wrote:Oh no! Dave from the UK has been exposed.
I appreciate it's a common enough name, but given that Ophelia claims to be 'friends' with him what's to say that someone who has taken exception to the J & M page doesn't decide to target one of Ophelia's seven Facebook friends called David or Dave? Islamic fundamentalists have reacted to slimmer 'evidence'.
Is there actually any evidence that islamic fundamentalists know what the fuck Jesus and Mo is because up until a couple of days ago I didn't.
Some of the strips were actually published in a Danish newspaper. You know how much those peace loving Islamic types love cartoons of Mohammed.

Fair enough. So they have to go track down a man they think might be called Dave.

#19139

cunt wrote:Fair enough. So they have to go track down a man they think might be called Dave.

And I'd be quite nervous if I was one of Ophelia's Facebook friends called Dave.

#19140

cunt wrote:
Fair enough. So they have to go track down a man they think might be called Dave.

To any muslim defenders of the faith who might be reading the blog:

This Dave you are looking for is pictured above in Cunt's avatar. Go forth and avenge the prophet.