Periodic Table of Swearing

[Guest]

snip I live with numerous spiders (had to nail a black widow at the irrigation box a couple of weeks ago), the cats get a few of them now and then, but the thing that irritates me the most are the small sugar ants that invade the house every summer. There must be a huge colony of them around here.

Had one of these suckers on the bathroom wall last night. Only my hand span across.

http://www.brisbaneinsects.com/brisbane ... _1012L.jpg

Certainly looks formidable but it's the smaller buggers, like the widow and the recluse, that I worry about around here. I'm familiar with one recluse bite that led to amputation. For the most part though, I just let spiders have their way in my house.

[Rystefn]

Honestly, I'm pretty sure the only thing even remotely dangerous in the greater Seattle area is Bigfoots and masturbating hobos.

Sidewalk cyclists...

Fair point... also, you will see people wearing socks with sandals. I don't know about you, but that makes me feel like my brains are leaking out my ears.

[Michael K Gray]

The town crazies are the most pure fun of entertainment when one's growing up.

I think they give a lot of colour to the local community; in fact, I think they should rent themselves out as ornamental nutters.

Arthur Figgis

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Bingo!
Grate minds think alike.

[Tigzy]

The crow family as a whole is my favourite by far of all the Aves, with the European Magpie (Pica pica) top o' the heap, and the Common Raven (Corvus corax) a VERY close second...

Crows are amazing - and downright fascinating too. I once actually heard a crow mimicking the 'meow' of a cat - at least, that's how it sounded. It was making the noise at a bunch of other crows. I did wonder, given their intelligence, if the crow somehow knew this as an alarm sound that might frighten away a load of other crows, maybe because they were hovering around a food source that it wanted access too. Or it could have been a coincidence. Strangest thing to hear, though.

[Mykeru]

What's the song you excerpt at the beginning of your videos? It sounds familiar, I seem to remember it from a Robert Crumb documentary. Also, I wish you wouldn't give Creepy Bitter Girl a cat. She doesn't deserve one.

That's "Last Kind Words Blues" by Geeshie Wiley, recorded in 1930. It was used in the documentary Crumb. Good catch. I think about 5% of total questions on my channel are about that fucking tune, which you can find on YouTube, incidentally.

For you art lovers: Where's the cat from?

The cat seems familiar too. A French Art Nouveau poster perhaps?

You got the French right and the time period, but think "Salon".

I know! That's the kitty standing on the end of the bed with Manet's "Olympia" (I think). :dance:

And, we have a winner!

[Lsuoma]

Wow. That's amazing! Have watched a few videos on crows and tool use, they seem pretty ingenious.

Have you seen the "A Murder of Crows" episode of the PBS program Nature? Crows can recognize different human faces, and pass on information about "dangerous" people to their offspring. Also, if you like crows and ravens, Bernd Heinrich's books Ravens in Winter and Mind of the Raven might be of interest - in fact, all of Heinrich's books are worth reading, IMHO.

Edward Abbey didn't have a sky burial, but according to one of his friends who carried out his last wishes, a Turkey Vulture and a Red-tailed Hawk were present when he was buried somewhere in the desert. The story is in one of the segments in this episode of TTBOOK, worth listening to just for the appropriateness of King Crimson's The Sheltering Sky as background music.

<--- Not above a little monkeywrenching on occasion.

John Marzluff's books are also extremely good, IME.

[Rystefn]

The crow family as a whole is my favourite by far of all the Aves, with the European Magpie (Pica pica) top o' the heap, and the Common Raven (Corvus corax) a VERY close second...

Crows are amazing - and downright fascinating too. I once actually heard a crow mimicking the 'meow' of a cat - at least, that's how it sounded. It was making the noise at a bunch of other crows. I did wonder, given their intelligence, if the crow somehow knew this as an alarm sound that might frighten away a load of other crows, maybe because they were hovering around a food source that it wanted access too. Or it could have been a coincidence. Strangest thing to hear, though.

I wouldn't put it past them. They're clever little bastiges.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I got an email from a man I didn't know. It simply called me a cunt. Ooh, and by the way, I'm going to say a lot of awful things today. Some of them may be triggering if you have experience with bullying and harassment and rape and things like that.

1) Bullying = rape for Skepchicks.
2)Bullying = rape = "things like that" for Skepchicks.

For fuck's sake, Becky. Really? "Things like that", where "that" is rape?

What is like rape? What compares, physically, emotionally - fuck it: legally - to rape? I know Jenny Titwobble saw some tramp wanking on the street this morning, and I sincerely hope she gets over it with no lasting mental scars. Because the sight of a homeless, probably (I'm not offering any fucking citations for that word other than common sense and walking around with my eyes open) mentally ill man masturbating is TOTES the same as being raped.

This one sentence, Becky, is disgusting, and it reveals your ignorance and contempt for the issues you proclaim to be a fighter for.

"Bullying and harassment and rape and things like that."

May this sentence haunt you in your sober moments, and may others come to realize how little you truly care for your cause.

Fucking ignorant.

[JackRayner]

Dude, the 90s were rough! Three of my cousins got killed and there were weekly shootings in my hometown fighting over puntos. The NG went to the projects, mostly. but...but... You are privileged male! How could that be?
Check out this webpage: http://www.ixposednewsonline.com/#
Maybe you'll find recent information about your neighborhood.

A "girlfriend" (child stuff) I had when I was, like, 8 years old, was the daughter of a bichote. [Essentially, the drug dealer that ran shit for any particular area/project, for anyone interested in keeping up.] That stuff was kind of easier to ignore when you were just a kid, but thinking about it now, I'm even more glad that my mother got us out of there when we were all still young. Far too many people get shot down over faint associations. Or, hell, even mistakes. I remember that my mother's cousin got shot dead when he wasn't even the guy they were looking for...

People are often surprised about some of my childhood stories from Puerto Rico. I have a hungry mind, so I learned English fairly well, and it probably throws people off. I sometimes hear people claiming they're from the same area that I came from as if it makes them badasses....I dunno. Maybe they're right. We left PR when I was 9, but I'm kind of sure that life as a teenager would have been extremely different...

And that's some pretty bloody stuff in that blog. I think I remember a friend of mines showing it to me a while back. Brings back memories of what you would (still?) often see on the covers of Puerto Rican news papers...

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8gs-C53ic

[BarnOwl]

FTBers are always pulling that one. McBoobster wrote a whole article about how she can't stop chewing up the skin on her lips and fingertips until they're bloody. JT claims eating disorders and depression, and Greta becomes mentally exhausted from trips to the bank. Didn't that friend of JT's, Cristina (not to be mixed up with the other Cristinas) go and cut off her own toe or something? I mean, she wrote before that that she doesn't *feel* things enough, and that's why she did a suspension by piercing thing, but I guess it was bad enough that she needed to cut off her own fucking toe too? She never explained why or how she did it. And they all have a persecution complex, although funny... they never talk about that one. Maybe they don't know yet that they have it. :)

But seriously, they are a heavily damaged bunch. Far more than the average, I think.

I wouldn't rule out factitious disorders.

[Guest]

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Edward Abbey didn't have a sky burial, but according to one of his friends who carried out his last wishes, a Turkey Vulture and a Red-tailed Hawk were present when he was buried somewhere in the desert. The story is in one of the segments in this episode of TTBOOK, worth listening to just for the appropriateness of King Crimson's The Sheltering Sky as background music.

<--- Not above a little monkeywrenching on occasion.

Thanks for that link. Abby was a fine writer. I grew up, for the most part, in his beautiful desert.

[KiwiInOz]

How cool are Coheed and Cambria! http://www.myspace.com/coheedandcambria. SciFi HiFi.

[codelette]

Dude, the 90s were rough! Three of my cousins got killed and there were weekly shootings in my hometown fighting over puntos. The NG went to the projects, mostly. but...but... You are privileged male! How could that be?
Check out this webpage: http://www.ixposednewsonline.com/#
Maybe you'll find recent information about your neighborhood.

A "girlfriend" (child stuff) I had when I was, like, 8 years old, was the daughter of a bichote. [Essentially, the drug dealer that ran shit for any particular area/project, for anyone interested in keeping up.] That stuff was kind of easier to ignore when you were just a kid, but thinking about it now, I'm even more glad that my mother got us out of there when we were all still young. Far too many people get shot down over faint associations. Or, hell, even mistakes. I remember that my mother's cousin got shot dead when he wasn't even the guy they were looking for...

People are often surprised about some of my childhood stories from Puerto Rico. I have a hungry mind, so I learned English fairly well, and it probably throws people off. I sometimes hear people claiming they're from the same area that I came from as if it makes them badasses....I dunno. Maybe they're right. We left PR when I was 9, but I'm kind of sure that life as a teenager would have been extremely different...

And that's some pretty bloody stuff in that blog. I think I remember a friend of mines showing it to me a while back. Brings back memories of what you would (still?) often see on the covers of Puerto Rican news papers...

Whenever people are surprised by your childhood stories from PR, show them shit like this:

I'll say life was...interesting, to say the least. :lol:

[acathode]

For those who are interested Al Stefanelli and I had a conversation yesterday http://www.reapsowradio.com/?p=31218 http://www.reapsowradio.com/wp-content/ ... /aplus.png

Listen to the show and read his article on FTB. Al seems like a nice guy, and his article was very reasonable. It's very entertaining to read the comment section, the way he handles the angry commentators, like LeftSidePostive, makes me think of an adult dealing with a hysterical kid or an angry teenager.

One thing that stood out though, is how often the defense for Schrödinger's Rapist was "You didn't understand the article! SR is about men who want to interact directly with women" or some similar variation.

That's such a shitty defense, first of all, if we took SR seriously, we would NEVER directly interact with any woman, since the base idea is that any stranger women is going to be scared witless by her fear of being raped. It would be a pretty stupid thing to do, trying to interact with someone you had good causes was scared to near death by your mere presence. And if we then introduced Schrödinger's Serial Killer and Schrödinger's Mugger, well, better lock ourselves in our rooms and never go outside again...

Second, that's certainly not the way SR is being used, people get told very often to go read the SR-article on the FTB and A+ forums, and in most cases the discussion is NOT about anyone who are trying to directly interact with a women, and it's very often about men and men's behavior in general.

ps. About the birds... Hate magpies, pest are what they are, yes they are intelligent, enough to know that there are goodies left in the trash and smart enough to get it out (with the uneatable but smelly litter being strewn across the whole lawn in the process). Also, intelligent enough to know that they are able to nab our kittens when we let them out. Always have to supervise the kittens when we let them outside, the magpies will quite gather above in the tree crowns, being very very interested in the kittens playing down below...

p.p.s ConcentratedH2O, OM: I have to say, bullying can be quite damn severe, on par with rape in some cases. Of course, I'm not equating this damn edrama that Watson and Amy are "suffering" with that, but for example workplace bullying have in several cases lead to people committing suicide. I'm probably nitpicking, the problem being mostly that "bullying" can be both the psychological equivalent of giving someone a slap, or beating someone up with baseball bat.

[Mykeru]

Seriously, Jen is complaining about a homeless man wanking in public (where the fuck else is he supposed to wank without a home?) without her consent (homelesswankingconsentform.jpg) and when people are speaking up that maybe she's a little unkind to the homeless person who a) doesn't have a home and b) may be mentally ill, she's turning it around and saying that people want to use her denigrating a homeless wanking in public against her?

Well, gee, I wonder why. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Also, what is it with julian and snapping people's necks?

You know, I'm working on the follow up video to This Is Atheism Plus, which I find to be difficult because the crazy comes so fast and furious and people's rationalizations morph at such a rate that it really is like sticking a fork in a fart.

That said, I will cross the street to make fun of Matt Dillahunty. Even if he get a big damn clue, he's still a buffoon. But other ethical questions arise. I'm not a mean person, and I realize that you can't have it both ways: Put forth a public persona, sell crap jewelry and call other people misogynists and then be free from being mocked yourself.

However, In editing I've taken to tone trolling myself over Greta Christina, just because assuming on the off chance that she sees the work of a z-lister like me, having someone dump on you the same week your dad dies isn't nice. Then again, she might have made him lose the will to live. You never know.

Jen McCreight is a special kind of ongoing problem as she is so completely clueless. She's like the toothless version of the Monty Python Killer Bunny: She attacks but since she can't break the skin she's easily stepped on. She really must live in a bubble where she's the warm center of the universe and anyone who contradicts her centrality is just a big meanie. The Rape Culture video I used a tiny little clip of her me-tooing The Beaver and maybe it's from watching the same clips over and over again, similar to when I was a billboard painter and if you spent enough time painting "YOU" three feet high it stopped looking like a word, until you are left not listening to what people say but just getting a sense of who they are. I'm watching this clip of McCreight, where she says "It happens to me ever bus ride, it seems" and I realize she probably really means it. She lives in a word of sexuality, sexual threat where her boobs are a weapon against intolerance and if there weren't random homeless guys jerking off (or just adjusting an itchy package) she'd invent them.

Now, reading her tweets, I realize that she probably isn't fair game. Maybe her depression is of the foot-stamping kind where she's sad not getting her way all the time. Then again, she just fucking nuts. Her ability to tweet stupidity, have people respond and then continue reading people's responses regardless of how crap they make her feel - and because she just can't fucking stop -- is really like the internet version of self-harm. Most people who self harm slash themselves with razor blades. Jen McCreight uses the internet. I tweeted her to POE, but my heat wouldn't be in it.

She is officially the first person in this cluster fuck to be so infantile and out of her mind that making fun of her is just no fun.

[KiwiInOz]

Jen McCreight is a special kind of ongoing problem as she is so completely clueless. She's like the toothless version of the Monty Python Killer Bunny: She attacks but since she can't break the skin she's easily stepped on. She really must live in a bubble where she's the warm center of the universe and anyone who contradicts her centrality is just a big meanie. The Rape Culture video I used a tiny little clip of her me-tooing The Beaver and maybe it's from watching the same clips over and over again, similar to when I was a billboard painter and if you spent enough time painting "YOU" three feet high it stopped looking like a word, until you are left not listening to what people say but just getting a sense of who they are. I'm watching this clip of McCreight, where she says "It happens to me ever bus ride, it seems" and I realize she probably really means it. She lives in a word of sexuality, sexual threat where her boobs are a weapon against intolerance and if there weren't random homeless guys jerking off (or just adjusting an itchy package) she'd invent them.

Now, reading her tweets, I realize that she probably isn't fair game. Maybe her depression is of the foot-stamping kind where she's sad not getting her way all the time. Then again, she just fucking nuts. Her ability to tweet stupidity, have people respond and then continue reading people's responses regardless of how crap they make her feel - and because she just can't fucking stop -- is really like the internet version of self-harm. Most people who self harm slash themselves with razor blades. Jen McCreight uses the internet. I tweeted her to POE, but my heat wouldn't be in it.

She is officially the first person in this cluster fuck to be so infantile and out of her mind that making fun of her is just no fun.

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

[JackRayner]

Whenever people are surprised by your childhood stories from PR, show them shit like this:

I'll say life was...interesting, to say the least. :lol:

Sounds like the 4th of July and New Year's Eve. :D

And then we had dumbass legislators concerned with making fireworks illegal? The Puerto Rican gov is so fucking corrupt...

[codelette]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

[KiwiInOz]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

Is she? I thought that she was about 21 (same age as my daughter).

[codelette]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

Is she? I thought that she was about 21 (same age as my daughter).

Jennifer McCreight (born November 2, 1987), an American skeptic and atheist blogger...

[sacha]

Hello Horror. I live with numerous spiders (had to nail a black widow at the irrigation box a couple of weeks ago), the cats get a few of them now and then, but the thing that irritates me the most are the small sugar ants that invade the house every summer. There must be a huge colony of them around here.

With regards to people, I'm an anti-natalist myself.

pretty kitty, please post a photo of your kitten.

I like spiders, abhor ants, and am an anti-natalist when it comes to humans as well.

at least come up with a name besides "guest".

[Mykeru]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

Is she? I thought that she was about 21 (same age as my daughter).

The one thing working against her is reading her tweets, she has no ability to give the time of day to anyone who is not on board with Daddy's little girl 100%. Everyone who questioned her ability to be soundly repressed by the homeless was immediately labeled an idiot. Under the poor-meism is an underlying mean-spirited entitlement. Maybe it's not that she's fair game, but there's no sport in the most hypocritical, softest target on earth.

Thankfully, there's always Rebecca Watson who I suspect is a card-carrying sociopath.

And maybe I'm getting old, but 25 is probably fetal for Generation Z

[KiwiInOz]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

Is she? I thought that she was about 21 (same age as my daughter).

Jennifer McCreight (born November 2, 1987), an American skeptic and atheist blogger...

1987. Who the hell was born in the 80's?

[KiwiInOz]

Ok, so I was married with a one year old daughter at 25. It didn't mean that I wasn't immature or naive at that age, but I guess that I had a few more responsibilities.

[Lsuoma]

Hello Horror. I live with numerous spiders (had to nail a black widow at the irrigation box a couple of weeks ago), the cats get a few of them now and then, but the thing that irritates me the most are the small sugar ants that invade the house every summer. There must be a huge colony of them around here.

With regards to people, I'm an anti-natalist myself.

pretty kitty, please post a photo of your kitten.

I like spiders, abhor ants, and am an anti-natalist when it comes to humans as well.

at least come up with a name besides "guest".

Doug Stanhope...

[Lapsang Souchong]

Hello Horror. I live with numerous spiders (had to nail a black widow at the irrigation box a couple of weeks ago), the cats get a few of them now and then, but the thing that irritates me the most are the small sugar ants that invade the house every summer. There must be a huge colony of them around here.

With regards to people, I'm an anti-natalist myself.

pretty kitty, please post a photo of your kitten.

I like spiders, abhor ants, and am an anti-natalist when it comes to humans as well.

at least come up with a name besides "guest".

O.K. I created an account and name based upon a post or two that I did regarding tea awhile back. I'll post a picture of my cats anon. Thanks for your welcomes, I love this forum.

[Lsuoma]

Under the poor-meism is an underlying mean-spirited entitlement.

This is becoming one of the dominant themes as the fully-entitled, daddy's-credit-card-toting, solipsistic, late-80s/90s-born children attain adulthood physically without having matured psychologically. And it ain't going to be pretty...

[KiwiInOz]

O.K. I created an account and name based upon a post or two that I did regarding tea awhile back. I'll post a picture of my cats anon. Thanks for your welcomes, I love this forum.

I'll drink to that.

[Lsuoma]

O.K. I created an account and name based upon a post or two that I did regarding tea awhile back. I'll post a picture of my cats anon. Thanks for your welcomes, I love this forum.

Welcome, and thanks for not being oolong...

[KiwiInOz]

Or she could have just blogged about it like a true social justice warrior - http://www.smh.com.au/national/cheeky-c ... 27epu.html

[sacha]

There was this guy in my neighborhood in Puerto Rico who everybody called Felix El Loco (The Crazy One). His whole family had the crazy gene. Whenever a women (be it a teenager, middle age or an old prune) he will whip out his limp dick while walking by her. We just passed him and say "Hey, Felix. Hide yo' dick, motherfucker". It was sad and hilarious at the same time.
Mostly hilarious.
Jen is such a sheltered pussy. That's also hilarious.

Ah blimey, this brings back memories - me, about 13 and doing my weekend job helping my uncle on his milk round. Up at four in the morning, out into the freezing cold, and often it was still dark. I was one of the very few kids that had thermal underwear and long johns. Anyways, I loved it, because it's surprising how many people are about when you think everyone is asleep. And for some reason, it's those early hours which really bring out the quality local nutters.

Picture me, rearranging crates on the float with near-frostbitten fingers, and from my left I hear a cry of, "MY FUCKIN MOTHER IS A DIRTY WHORE WHO WEARS FRILLY KNICKERS!" Sure, I did almost shit meself, but only out of surprise - charging down the street in his oversized duffel-coat and Moe haircut was the well-known local loon known for running up and down the pavements giving vent to probably the most extreme case of tourettes ever known to man. Really, he could not stop fulminating about his mother's peccadilos; bit of shocker to have him run past you yelling about his dear old mum's minge, but I can safely say I did not feel too cheapened in having not consented to hear his dirty talk.

Besides, it was fascinating to note that as ever, he was carrying two full shopping bags; I couldn't help but wonder what places could be open at about five in the morning. In any case, my uncle just shrugged and complained about his haemhorroids; he was a bit of miserable git, to be honest.

The town crazies are the most pure fun of entertainment when one's growing up.

I mentioned a while ago that the Baboons are not city kids, these things are shocking! to them.

Those of us who were raised in the city, especially in a different generation (I walked around the city on my own by 7 or 8, it was my neighbourhood) are not bothered by the local nutters. They are part of the colour of the city, woven in to the background.

[sacha]

Had one of these suckers on the bathroom wall last night. Only my hand span across.

http://www.brisbaneinsects.com/brisbane ... _1012L.jpg

yeah, franc always brings up funnel webs when I mention I like spiders. I'm not so sure I would be so enthralled if I lived in the antipodes.

For those of you asking, I'll speak to franc tonight. He was abducted by the circus when they came to town, was held against his will, and was forced to cook and clean for them, while they hurled abuse at him. He's free, but has been recovering the past few days. I'll see if I can coax him here.

[sacha]

The town crazies are the most pure fun of entertainment when one's growing up.

I think they give a lot of colour to the local community; in fact, I think they should rent themselves out as ornamental nutters.

haha! I posted before reading this.

[sacha]

The crow family as a whole is my favourite by far of all the Aves, with the European Magpie (Pica pica) top o' the heap, and the Common Raven (Corvus corax) a VERY close second...

Lsuoma loves me

The science of Corvids is one of the few things I know quite a bit about. They are the only animal besides domesticated dogs that understand pointing at something. They point with their beaks. They are thought to have an extremely complex language, and do things simply for fun. Here is one snowboarding:
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[Lapsang Souchong]

God forbid should the world ever loose characters like that. We had a great lady like that who lived in my area. "Your husband gave me the clap" to perfect strangers on the street.

And I also saw her in action at a local Democratic Party function one year when she embarrassed a local aspiring politico who was sitting at my table. A young deputy prosecutor for the county. She came to the table with special affections for him after raiding some Roman Catholic affair upstairs from where I was sitting.

[sacha]

FTBers are always pulling that one. McBoobster wrote a whole article about how she can't stop chewing up the skin on her lips and fingertips until they're bloody. JT claims eating disorders and depression, and Greta becomes mentally exhausted from trips to the bank. Didn't that friend of JT's, Cristina (not to be mixed up with the other Cristinas) go and cut off her own toe or something? I mean, she wrote before that that she doesn't *feel* things enough, and that's why she did a suspension by piercing thing, but I guess it was bad enough that she needed to cut off her own fucking toe too? She never explained why or how she did it. And they all have a persecution complex, although funny... they never talk about that one. Maybe they don't know yet that they have it. :)

But seriously, they are a heavily damaged bunch. Far more than the average, I think.

I wouldn't rule out factitious disorders.

you beat me to it, I was going to say Münchausen Syndrome (not by proxy)

[acathode]

Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez8gs-C53ic

Only listened to the beginning, and not going to have time to listen to all of it today, but... wow, first time I really listen to anything of Rebeca Watson, and god, she really comes across as a grade A narcissist.

So far, what stands out is that she more or less admits that the DMCAing of ElevatorGate was so that they could get his RL address and harass him, and accuses him of being "another of her stalkers" (around the 17:40 mark in the video). I'm not to familiar with ElevatorGate, but I'm fairly sure he's not a stalker...

Neither can't say I keep track of what's been happening here before I started lurking, a month or two ago, but I get the impression that she is GRAVELY misrepresenting what's happened when she list all the stuff around the 12:00-20:00 or so mark, with what cons banned who and who didn't ban anyone even though she complained? Also.. buddy system with male escorts? W T F?
Also, what's up with the audiences gasping and oohing? I can't help but thinking of a Sunday mass, with the congregation gasping in shock whenever the priest mentions the homosexuals and Satan...
I'll have to listen to the rest tomorrow, since I'm in dire need of some sleep right now.

[Michael K Gray]

I see Jen as being young, enthusiastic and naive. Her heart is in the right place, and she will probably be more discerning as she grows up and takes on life's lessons. I don't think that she should be consigned to the emo bucket that some of the other Aplussers inhabit.

I really doubt that.
She's 25, right? And her daddy is still running to her rescue -on the Interwebz!-, her boyfriend is telling her to logoff and everybody is mean to her.
25 is not old age, but she's not a freaking child anymore.

That reminds me of some months ago, FfTBuggers and Skepchuncks were excusing Shurely Amless' fuck-ups at the time because "she's still only young". Seriously!
She was 42 at the time!!
You couldn't make up this bonkers stuff for love nor money. It's sound far too crazy.
But they excused a 42 year old because "she's only young".
Fuck me.

I don't care if Jen is 21 or 25.
Bloody hell, I was married by 21, and was running my electronics company whilst studying at Uni.

She is physically an adult. But not mentally, by any stretch.
Who shouldn't advertise the fact that she has a truly nauseating "happy army" of dollies in which she confides; fitting of an 8 yr old.
But Jen is so fucking unaware that she boasted about this defective behaviour on a video.

Spit!

[John Greg]

This is some party to watch, I gotta say.

What with A+ the city of damaged souls dancing with fake moderators, Jen McWrong and Scurvy Amy proving that they are 7 year-olds hiding in 30 year-old's bodies, the endless drama-theatrics from FfTB and the Drunken Beaver, Stefunny InSvanity actually finally coming out and fully defending Laden's vicious ... or is that viscous? ... online attacks and explaining why in the case of Griffith it is Just and Holy to attack and blame the victim, and Jean Kazez violently flushing whatever is left of her intellect down the toilet....

Nah, it's true, you just cannot make this stuff up. Collectively it is one of the most absurd, fantastical reality shows ever aired that never aired. I don;t think any producer in his or her right mind would believe it would sell; it's just too fucking ridiculous.

I find myself getting a crink in my neck on almost a daily basis shaking my head at the sociopathic, psychotic hypocrisy of these truly mentally damaged people.

[masakari2012]

Can't tell if this was shared already or not.....

Al Stefanelli of FTB on ReapSowRadio....

http://www.reapsowradio.com/?p=31218

[Lapsang Souchong]

I hope I don't get treated like Mabus for this, yet I enjoy it and I suspect others here will as well: the immortal Enrico Caruso.

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[Rystefn]

I'll drink to that.

I'll drink to drinking to that. ;)

On the subject of age - by the time I was McWrong's age, I had lived on multiple continents, seen more countries than the average American can name, been homeless, been stabbed in the neck, saw combat, got married, got divorced, worked security for an arms dealer, seen people die, slept in a jail cell, set a broken bone, and learned how to cook meat on fire. If she's still a child, that's on her head, it's got nothing to do with age.

[Michael K Gray]

I'll drink to that.

I'll drink to drinking to that. ;)

On the subject of age - by the time I was McWrong's age, I had lived on multiple continents, seen more countries than the average American can name, been homeless, been stabbed in the neck, saw combat, got married, got divorced, worked security for an arms dealer, seen people die, slept in a jail cell, set a broken bone, and learned how to cook meat on fire. If she's still a child, that's on her head, it's got nothing to do with age.

Luxury.
When I was 4 years old, I had to get up every morning, 10 hours before I went to bed, drink a cup of COLD poison, work at t' Mill 26 hours a day, (and pay t' owner for the privilege). Then when I got home, our dad would slice us in two wi' bread knife singing Hallelujah whilst dancing on our graves.
Tell that to the kids of today, and they won't believe you.

[franc]

For those of you asking, I'll speak to franc tonight. He was abducted by the circus when they came to town, was held against his will, and was forced to cook and clean for them, while they hurled abuse at him. He's free, but has been recovering the past few days. I'll see if I can coax him here.

Yeah, life becomes a John Waters film whenever family comes to town. If I wrote about it no one would believe it. I am relegated to status of cook, cleaner and dog that gets kicked for every minor fustration. The only place in the house with peace and quiet is also a wireless black spot. Simply can't keep up with what happens here, so haven't even tried. 3000 comments behind. Anything major to note other than Vacula lynching?

[drolrev0]

Poor Jen, she was such a social jurist when she was inside her pinky middle class/academic bubble. Now she's experiencing how crass and disgusting even the underprivileged can be, and she cannot handle the cold truth. Even her daddy had to stop playing golf to tend to her fragile state of mind. Go, you strong lady, you!

We love poor people, we just can't stand the way they smell.

[Michael K Gray]

Anything major to note other than Vacula lynching?

A trusted source has revealed that there is at least one stealth poe-plant acting as an A+ moderator, and having a jolly time seeing how ridiculous he can act without being spotted.
Bet the inmates are all afrenzy with more than their usual dose of paranoia.

[aweraw]

Anything major to note other than Vacula lynching?

A trusted source has revealed that there is at least one stealth poe-plant acting as an A+ moderator, and having a jolly time seeing how ridiculous he can act without being spotted.
Bet the inmates are all afrenzy with more than their usual dose of paranoia.

Don't forget Dillahunty's epic fall from grace...

[aweraw]

.. and of course Al Stefanelli has publicly refused to prostrate himself before the alter of A+.

Man, it's been a big week. I think my abs might be starting to ripple out for the first time in years, due to all the laughing.

[JackRayner]

Spent the last few hours drinking Jack & Coke and watching raven/crow documentaries and videos. I could think of much worse ways to spend a ...what is this, Wednesday? Yeah. I could think of much wosre ways to spend a Wednesday night! :mrgreen:

Since we're on the subject of intelligence [were we?] and other such psychological states, I want to say that ever since I've begun to observe the baboons, I've become extremely disinterested in theists. Like, I used to frequent the facebook fan pages and youtube video comments of well known atheists, and I would get into little debates with theists and non-believers on all sorts of subjects. But, there's just something about self-proclaimed "skeptics" acting like totally un-skeptical, irrational ideologues that attracts my attention that much more. It's incredible seeing people who are familiar with fallacious arguments actually using these in an attempt to defend their pet ideologies, and then pretending like they totally aren't. The level of compartmentalization going on, it's....it's just beautiful.

Also, I love you guys. *insert group-hug smiley*

[JackRayner]

Something that occupies my mind often is wondering how animals perceive cars. Like, I think about this a lot , and especially so when I'm driving with no one else in the car. Like those bastard, stuck up peacocks that live near me and love to cross the street at a leisurely pace when I'm trying to get someplace, or the dogs I see riding in cars. Anytime I see any animal-car interaction, the thought pops back into my head...

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Again, ont he subject of cars and animals, I'm @18:07 of this video, and they're going over how this lady's raven, "Loki", loves going for a ride in her car. The awesome part is a few seconds in. When she steps out to open the gate, the little bugger jumps down and turns the ignition off. :O

And a little further on, as she's driving down the road, Loki flies along side her. That's so cool.

[Rystefn]

I'll drink to that.

I'll drink to drinking to that. ;)

On the subject of age - by the time I was McWrong's age, I had lived on multiple continents, seen more countries than the average American can name, been homeless, been stabbed in the neck, saw combat, got married, got divorced, worked security for an arms dealer, seen people die, slept in a jail cell, set a broken bone, and learned how to cook meat on fire. If she's still a child, that's on her head, it's got nothing to do with age.

Luxury.
When I was 4 years old, I had to get up every morning, 10 hours before I went to bed, drink a cup of COLD poison, work at t' Mill 26 hours a day, (and pay t' owner for the privilege). Then when I got home, our dad would slice us in two wi' bread knife singing Hallelujah whilst dancing on our graves.
Tell that to the kids of today, and they won't believe you.

Yeah, well, when I wanted to take a shower, I had to walk ten miles to the hot springs, uphill both ways, through eight feet of snow, and carry it back in a five-gallon bucket with a hole in it. After the ten trips it took to get enough water, it had all gone cold, so I had to chop down a tree to get wood and build a fire to warm the water up... and then, most days, the gravity would go out, and the water would all fall up anyway.

[Butters]

This is tl;dr

This desire by people like Jen to be seen as helping those less fortunate, or even thinking one UNDERSTANDS what someone less fortunate or outside the mainstream is going through or thinks, reminds me of trying to help out at the local OCCUPY group in my town. While there were many homeless (homeless for all sorts of reasons), the main speakers and active types were 20 somethings thinking they "understand it all" and want to make a difference. Some slept on the campsite (and then would go to their classes or job) and then come back at night. They thought they were really understanding and speaking for the people who as soon as the camp was disbanded, would be on their on own on the streets again. But these “leaders” would be back in their parent's extra room or their own apartment/house that they kept the time of the OCCUPY camping. They could not understand what it is like to be the people they thought they were speaking for...they all had a safe place to stay regardless of what happened. Now not all were this delusional, but enough were.

Some people in the camp were homeless because they were addicted to drugs, so they would go into tents and steal in order to get drugs. As the leaders would never give someone to the cops, they wanted to try and fix this part of society themselves. But they were not qualified. I saw a guy still high on meth (and other things) surrounded by a large circle of people. He had their full attention, and they sought to calm him down (he was grabbed after he attacked a couple in their tent). Calming down is good. But they did not want to turn him over to any agency. They made him promise not to steal anymore...a guy high on meth... So the upshot was, the couple who did not feel safe because this person was allowed to stay in the camp and was not treated in anyway, so they left. And this continued on with other people until the camp was basically not safe. These people want to make a change, but they think they understand more than they do.

[TedDahlberg]

I've been a few pages behind on reading all week (you people are being prolific) so I don't know if anyone's shared this lately. A friend sent this to me last night and it would be morally reprehensible of me not to pass it on. She said she especially liked "thundercunt".

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[Butters]

I've been a few pages behind on reading all week (you people are being prolific) so I don't know if anyone's shared this lately. A friend sent this to me last night and it would be morally reprehensible of me not to pass it on. She said she especially liked "thundercunt".

Snipped image

Some very useful insults in there. Can't use them right away, as the people I know who HATE the slymepit (but won't admit reading it) will know that I read it...but can't say it outloud.

[Pitchguest]

Yeah, I'll let others get franc up to speed. I'm just gonna post this real quick and go to bed, because I cannot not as I'd have trouble sleeping being so utterly flabbergasted at what I've just heard. (Hello privilege! By the way, Rystefn, I'm 24 years old and I lack so horribly in the life experience you have, I kind of feel bad. Could be worse, I guess. Could have done Boobquake. :dance: )

Anyway, I watched the Watson conference and once again, I was hit by the inanity of it all. These people willingly went there at 9 AM in the morning to see this insipid, vapid human being recount once more the threats she's received. (Even to make a lame joke about it, "If there's one thing my mother told me, never talk about your rape threats over dinner." :doh:) Once more she makes it personal, makes it only about herself, tell her audience about the severely interesting anecdote that she received an email which simply said "cunt." Ooh, ahh, Hitchens' ghost must be regretting that he never said something so riveting.

Deep in my thoughts, pondering what I'd have for breakfast in the morning in between the mantra "don't care, yeah, ok, fine, that's nice, yeah, don't care", she comes with this bombshell,

"... so at the time all these Skepchicks that were (JREF Convention) there instituted a buddy system in which we all travel together, or with a male escort (especially when returning to hotel rooms late at night *hint hint*)"

*record stops*

What the what and WHAT? A male escort? A fucking male escort? The fuck?

I can't believe my ears. Rebecca Watson said this. She and her Skepchick cohorts instituted a buddy system of either all of them travelling together (reasonable) or with MALE. ESCORTS. I ... what is this ... I don't even. :|

Moment(s) of Zen:



- Rebecca recounts the email correspondence of her and the one calling her simply a 'cunt'. Brilliant.

- Rebecca recalling the early days of Skepchick when she had a woman stalker.

- Rebecca is retelling how upset she were that her friends wouldn't take her words at face value. (The woman she's talking about is the aforementioned stalker who'd gotten acquainted with one of her friends.)

- Rebecca is smearing the men's right movement. Something for Mykeru to bite into.


- The above cited inanity. Seriously. Male escorts. What the fuck.

- She's been in talks with the FBI about her threats though as of that moment, no one has been arrested. Huh, one would think with the kind of threats she gets, it ... oh, nevermind. Bonus: A few seconds later she says this gem, "but I have friends and strangers alike who have never questioned my words when dealing with harassment" :doh: :doh: :doh:

- She's talking about a woman on a forum "dedicated to hating her" who was gonna attend a conference in San Fran. last year, anyone know who this is she's referring to?

- Rebecca speaks about how some her friend bloggers (e.g. Jen) have been "pushed out" by "bullies" and how they have been "winning", however "sadly for them, though, [she's] still here", with the bonus addition of admitting she's an attention whore.

For your mental health, I don't recommend watching it. I swear I lost precious IQ points just listening to it - and her incessant giggling every second sentence, Peezus christ.

[Tony Parsehole]

Anything major to note other than Vacula lynching?

Matt Dillahunty's anal rape by the vast majority of A+. But you probably knew that already.

[Skep tickle]

Could someone post the Cliff Notes version of what happened to ERV, & maybe a linkie or pointer to some more info somewhere?

Here are two links to Laden and Stuffy admitting to some of the nuisance complaints they made to Abbie's bloghost, and to the chair of her academic department, as revenge because 1) she lets people say bads words in her comment areas and 2) people can express negative opinions about FfTBers without being stopped. ...

Thanks! That's helpful background info. (Memo to Laden: in academic science, "professional misconduct" means something different than what you apparently think it means.)

Which reminds me: that screen shot a couple of pages back with mods & admins at Atheism+ forum included one person listed under what is apparently his real name, along with the website for University of Washington Genome Sciences, where a very quick search shows that someone with that same name is a postdoctoral fellow. It's Jen McCreight's department. (All of this is from what that A+ mod-of-few-posts chose as his username at the A+ forum, the web page he chose to link, and info JM has been public about.) Presumably noone has been using state resources for their personal internet activities related to atheism+, but even linking the department's web site seems IMO in poor form.

Speaking of Jen, I'm sorry to hear that she's battling depression. That sucks, royally.

But why would someone who stopped blogging because of the antagonistic comments she & her father were getting then continue to broadcast anything personal or potentially controversial, much less anything, to the twitterverse? I guess using social media to stay in touch or speak your mind may feel as natural as breathing (and as safe?) to some folks.

The reactions she's seeing to her #ugh tweet seem to really, really be getting to her. I hope she takes the advice she's currently getting from Sid Rodrigues via twitter, and unplugs - takes a break. Her last tweet said this*:

My haters don't give a fuck about the homeless or mentally ill. They just use them to promote their Male-Sexuality-Trumps-Everything agenda

That's a pretty deep hole to be down, to be taking criticism of one's statement so personally (and twisting it to fit into a mold).

It's also pretty amazing that apparently her supporters aren't grasping the disconnect here, so though it's been said above I'll help spell it out again for lurkers: she's the one who coined "We are…Atheists plus we care about social justice", but then she tweets "Apparently my day is going to start by walking by a homeless man masturbating in public #ugh". (A later tweet referenced the general situation of "someone watching me as they masturbate without my consent" but there's no mention in the first one that homeless guy acknowledged her existence much less used it to his advantage, so to speak.)

It's possible that the part she meant to emphasize as distasteful was someone "masturbating in public", but we've all found ourselves "walking by a homeless man", and that's the part that is so dissonant given the purported extra special interest A+ in "social justice" that other atheists are assumed not to "give a fuck about".

(Except it seems quite possible that "social justice" is one of those words, like "privilege", that turns out to have an extra special meaning that those with privilege aren't privileged to know.)

And now I'm picturing a dedicated Atheism+ adherent volunteering at the soup kitchen in the U-district in Seattle, telling the homeless men "guys, don't do that"....and a schism forming between the social justice league and the homeless community... :shock:

[Mykeru]

I'll drink to that.

I'll drink to drinking to that. ;)

On the subject of age - by the time I was McWrong's age, I had lived on multiple continents, seen more countries than the average American can name, been homeless, been stabbed in the neck, saw combat, got married, got divorced, worked security for an arms dealer, seen people die, slept in a jail cell, set a broken bone, and learned how to cook meat on fire. If she's still a child, that's on her head, it's got nothing to do with age.

Luxury.
When I was 4 years old, I had to get up every morning, 10 hours before I went to bed, drink a cup of COLD poison, work at t' Mill 26 hours a day, (and pay t' owner for the privilege). Then when I got home, our dad would slice us in two wi' bread knife singing Hallelujah whilst dancing on our graves.
Tell that to the kids of today, and they won't believe you.

Yeah, well, when I wanted to take a shower, I had to walk ten miles to the hot springs, uphill both ways, through eight feet of snow, and carry it back in a five-gallon bucket with a hole in it. After the ten trips it took to get enough water, it had all gone cold, so I had to chop down a tree to get wood and build a fire to warm the water up... and then, most days, the gravity would go out, and the water would all fall up anyway.

You punk kids. When i was your age, we had none of this "free oxygen" in the atmosphere. We had to suck it out of the rocks.

[James Onen]

Hey I havent heard from James lately--

??

I'm alive and well. And still evil :twisted:.