Periodic Table of Swearing

[decius]

As I stated above... /shrug

If someone is incapacitated, they aren't going anywhere. They are going home. We can fight about it in the morning, and you can stamp your feet all you want, but you're going home.

If you're doing OK and want to leave the group, then you tell us generally where you're going to be and when you'll be back. That way, if you end up missing, we have a fucking clue on where to start looking for you.

Like I said above, this is all implicit and agreed upon. Don't like it? Don't come out with us. It's as simple as that.

Every single one of us has to know that the people we are with are reliable. If you're willing to abandon a comrade while out drinking, then what the fuck are you gonna do when the bullets start flying?

In my neck of the woods, we tend to talk about things in the morning. And no, I wouldn't go out with anyone who puts primitive notions of loyalty to some group of cave-dwellers ahead of everything else or can't tell a party from a war zone. So, that's solved. Sorry for the interruption.

[John Brown]

Jebus fucking christ, then some people wonder why I hate the military. Just looks at the paranoid mentality that pervades it.
We're talking about adults enjoying a few drinks and then taking off for sex with a stranger. If someone is overstepping any boundary in the situation you describe, it's these nanny-mates of yours.

It's not "Nanny Mates", If I saw you climb to the outside of the railing to walk along the bridge, I'd hoy you back in so you wouldn't die by falling off the bridge, because you're clearly too pissed to make that decision. If you're further gone than the socially agreed upon (varies by group) limit of deciding who to fuck then I'll make your excuses and keep you safe, and It's a comfort knowing you'd do the same for me.

If you are going off I may not go quite as far as the military lot, but there circs are a little different, but I'd make sure I knew roughly where you were heading and that you had an idea how to get back.

FFS, it's mates looking out for eachother to make sure they don't wind up dead, hurt or worse sleeping with a femistazi.

Honestly, do you not give a fuck if your mate winds up dead?

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

The point. You are fucking missing it.

It's not about people dying because of "drunken sex." It's about being able to trust that your friends have your back.

But, as an aside, I'll just say this. In every unit I was ever in, people wound up dead because they wandered off and did something stupid. In some of those cases, nothing could be done about it. In others, it was because their comrades dropped the fucking ball.

People die. People get raped (two men I knew were raped because they were stupid and ignored their friends). People fucking disappear. It happens to people who have had years of military training and who are at the peak of physical conditioning.

You look after your friends. Your friends look after you. When you're in an up-armoured vehicle driving through the streets of Kabul, your friends are all you have.

[papillon]

[youtube]6HLbcFhu8kw[/youtube]

[John Brown]

As I stated above... /shrug

If someone is incapacitated, they aren't going anywhere. They are going home. We can fight about it in the morning, and you can stamp your feet all you want, but you're going home.

If you're doing OK and want to leave the group, then you tell us generally where you're going to be and when you'll be back. That way, if you end up missing, we have a fucking clue on where to start looking for you.

Like I said above, this is all implicit and agreed upon. Don't like it? Don't come out with us. It's as simple as that.

Every single one of us has to know that the people we are with are reliable. If you're willing to abandon a comrade while out drinking, then what the fuck are you gonna do when the bullets start flying?

In my neck of the woods, we tend to talk about things in the morning. And no, I wouldn't go out with anyone who puts primitive notions of loyalty to some group of cave-dwellers ahead of everything else or can't tell a party from a war zone. So, that's solved. Sorry for the interruption.

Oh, aren't you just adorable? Bless your cotton socks.

If you don't identify with the group I'm talking about and have no interest in belonging to such a group, why the fuck are you taking this so personally?

You *are* sorry for the interruption. Now, you can feel free to apologize anytime you wish.

[katamari Damassi]

Question: I've made a couple of unsuccessful attempts to embed a youtube video. I've tried using the youtube feature when posting and I've tried using the embed feature on youtube, neither one worked for me. What am I doing wrong?

[Rystefn]

A small point of disagreement, if I may.

I addressed this in one of my videos sometime back. When I was in the Army, there was always one implicit, though unbreakable rule.

Never leave a person behind.

The circumstances didn't matter. Whether it be the battlefield or going out on Friday night getting sloshed, you looked out for your friends and never left them behind.

If at some point they meet up with someone and want to split away from the group, a couple things come into play. The group assesses if you're too far gone to make that decision by yourself. If you are, then you aren't leaving. I don't care if a fist fight erupts because of it. You're not leaving.

If you are able to make that decision by yourself, then somebody from the group makes sure that all relevant information is obtained. Where does this person live? What is his/her phone number? When do you plan on being back? How will you get back? etc, etc...

Leaving a person behind to fend for themselves was a taboo one simply did not break. If you did, be prepared to be a pariah.

Now, I understand that casual social groups aren't like the bonds you have in the military, but if more people looked at it that way, then there would be much less of this going on.

Regardless of gender, you shouldn't be out by yourself, drinking yourself silly in unfamiliar places. And, you also shouldn't be doing said activities with "friends" you can't trust.

Never leave a person behind.

You know, this is exactly the reason I couldn't fucking stand doing anything with Army people. You aren't my fucking mommy to be demanding to know where I'm going, and how long I'll be gone, and who's going to be there all the fucking time, and even if you were, I stopped telling her all that shit when I was like 13. If I don't show up for morning formation, assume I'm either AWOL or dead. Don't come looking for me, in case it's the first.

Oh noes, woah for Rystefen, is people care about where he is and would be comforted to know he's ok, he's to big a man for all that shit. FFS Rystefen, join society, it's awesomer than anyone without it.

There's more to society than people holding your fucking hand and trying to protect you from yourself. My friends all know the deal, and they're ok with it: if you don't hear anything otherwise, assume I'm where I want to be, doing what I want to do, with the people I want to do it with, and I don't need any help. If any of those things becomes untrue, I'll let you know, and I'll assume you're extending me the same courtesy. If you need a babysitter, or think I do, we aren't going to get along. If you care about where I am, come with me, because I'm not going to call everyone I fucking know every time I change location, I don't have time for that shit. If you want to know what time I'll be back, tough shit, because I don't know until/unless I finally make it back.

If it makes you feel better to have people keeping tabs on you all the fucking time, that's your prerogative, but I find life to be "awesomer" when I'm pedaling around the backyard with the fucking training wheels on.

[ReneeHendricks]

Question: I've made a couple of unsuccessful attempts to embed a youtube video. I've tried using the youtube feature when posting and I've tried using the embed feature on youtube, neither one worked for me. What am I doing wrong?

Take the Youtube url (i.e. and remove all but the part *after* v= (so in this case, we're left with S6CFgK8nYLA). Place that between the youtube tags. Viola:

[youtube]S6CFgK8nYLA[/youtube]

Jenna Marbles drunkenly decorating a tree. Only the tree was raped.

[Rystefn]

Note, that the above post should say *not* pedaling around the backyard with the training wheels on. Because of all the words to leave out, "not" is the fucking worst, and therefore the most common when I'm typing.

[katamari Damassi]

Question: I've made a couple of unsuccessful attempts to embed a youtube video. I've tried using the youtube feature when posting and I've tried using the embed feature on youtube, neither one worked for me. What am I doing wrong?

Take the Youtube url (i.e. and remove all but the part *after* v= (so in this case, we're left with S6CFgK8nYLA). Place that between the youtube tags. Viola:

[youtube]S6CFgK8nYLA[/youtube]

Jenna Marbles drunkenly decorating a tree. Only the tree was raped.

Thank you!

[katamari Damassi]

Whoops! Quote fail. Didn't mean to include everything in it. Well time for a second cup of coffee I think.

[JackRayner]

Kind of entertaining seeing the current back and forth on the topic of letting your friends go and hook up while drunk/the buddy system. I'm not sure what side of things I fall on, though I definitely did not like the mandatory nature of the buddy system back when I was in.

It's a big gray area that I think should be left up to the individual, and their choice of friends. Saying that it wold be nice to have someone intervene when you're about to do something stupid or regrettable, or even that it is what you would expect from a *friend*, is not the same as saying that they are responsible for your actions.

[John Brown]

You know, this is exactly the reason I couldn't fucking stand doing anything with Army people. You aren't my fucking mommy to be demanding to know where I'm going, and how long I'll be gone, and who's going to be there all the fucking time, and even if you were, I stopped telling her all that shit when I was like 13. If I don't show up for morning formation, assume I'm either AWOL or dead. Don't come looking for me, in case it's the first.

Oh noes, woah for Rystefen, is people care about where he is and would be comforted to know he's ok, he's to big a man for all that shit. FFS Rystefen, join society, it's awesomer than anyone without it.

There's more to society than people holding your fucking hand and trying to protect you from yourself. My friends all know the deal, and they're ok with it: if you don't hear anything otherwise, assume I'm where I want to be, doing what I want to do, with the people I want to do it with, and I don't need any help. If any of those things becomes untrue, I'll let you know, and I'll assume you're extending me the same courtesy. If you need a babysitter, or think I do, we aren't going to get along. If you care about where I am, come with me, because I'm not going to call everyone I fucking know every time I change location, I don't have time for that shit. If you want to know what time I'll be back, tough shit, because I don't know until/unless I finally make it back.

If it makes you feel better to have people keeping tabs on you all the fucking time, that's your prerogative, but I find life to be "awesomer" when I'm pedaling around the backyard with the fucking training wheels on.

Point. Missed.

Jesus Christ. If it's one thing I'll never understand, it's the affrontery people take at how other people conduct themselves when it has shit all to do with them. Live your life the way you want to live it and more power to you. Congratulations. I'm as libertarian as they come in that respect. You don't see me sitting here taking offense because you choose to do whatever it is you choose to do. Run free!

I was explaining how dynamics work in a certain group of people and why that dynamic gets the job done in assuring that your friends are not harmed when they have lost the capacity to make decisions for themselves.

I care fuck all what you think of the culture that fosters that dynamic and I fail to understand why you are getting your panties in a twist about it.

Congratulations. You're a grown fucking man who doesn't need or want anything to do with that particular dynamic. Did something I say lead you to believe that you should adopt that way of behaving? Because other people behave this way, does it have fuck all to do with your autonomy?

I offered this anecdote as one option to curb catastrophe when you plan to go out and get shit faced drunk. I.E., have a social group on whom you can rely and who has your back. You offered yours. The difference is, I'm not going on about how you fucking suck.

So, you know, feel free to go fuck yourself.

[ReneeHendricks]

Question: I've made a couple of unsuccessful attempts to embed a youtube video. I've tried using the youtube feature when posting and I've tried using the embed feature on youtube, neither one worked for me. What am I doing wrong?

(stuff where I helped and Jenna Marbles raped a Christmas tree)

Thank you!

You're most welcome!

[John Brown]

Kind of entertaining seeing the current back and forth on the topic of letting your friends go and hook up while drunk/the buddy system. I'm not sure what side of things I fall on, though I definitely did not like the mandatory nature of the buddy system back when I was in.

It's a big gray area that I think should be left up to the individual, and their choice of friends. Saying that it wold be nice to have someone intervene when you're about to do something stupid or regrettable, or even that it is what you would expect from a *friend*, is not the same as saying that they are responsible for your actions.

Like I said above, this "social contract" goes both ways. I have your back and I'm going to look out for you. You have my back and you're going to look out for me. However, if you keep doing stupid shit, then eventually you're going to be on your own.

It's pretty simple. You're free to abdicate personal responsibility once and a while and the group will make sure you're not going to suffer too much for it, but it only goes so far.

[decius]

Oh, aren't you just adorable? Bless your cotton socks.

If you don't identify with the group I'm talking about and have no interest in belonging to such a group, why the fuck are you taking this so personally?

You *are* sorry for the interruption. Now, you can feel free to apologize anytime you wish.

Because I happened to be drafted into the Italian army, back when military service was still compulsory. there. Not my choice, you see, to waste an year of youth amongst the most brainfucked people I've ever had the misfortune to share meatspace with. Don't take it personally, though. I still managed to do fuck I wanted most of the time, and that involved breaking just about every rule in the book. It kept me sane but it put me in a direct collision course with your school of thought more than once.

Apart from that, I don't like to divulge my personal story on line. Suffice to say, that intoxication, partying and clubbing has had a major role in it for a long time and my direct experience directly contradict the anecdotes involving your comrades you shared. It's also clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, when it comes to nightlife and luddite social interactions, just like I wouldn't be able to pontificate meaningfully about military matters.
Having said that, I guess both of us chose the lifestyle which best suited us and I shall leave it there without rancour.

[Rystefn]

You know, this is exactly the reason I couldn't fucking stand doing anything with Army people. You aren't my fucking mommy to be demanding to know where I'm going, and how long I'll be gone, and who's going to be there all the fucking time, and even if you were, I stopped telling her all that shit when I was like 13. If I don't show up for morning formation, assume I'm either AWOL or dead. Don't come looking for me, in case it's the first.

Oh noes, woah for Rystefen, is people care about where he is and would be comforted to know he's ok, he's to big a man for all that shit. FFS Rystefen, join society, it's awesomer than anyone without it.

There's more to society than people holding your fucking hand and trying to protect you from yourself. My friends all know the deal, and they're ok with it: if you don't hear anything otherwise, assume I'm where I want to be, doing what I want to do, with the people I want to do it with, and I don't need any help. If any of those things becomes untrue, I'll let you know, and I'll assume you're extending me the same courtesy. If you need a babysitter, or think I do, we aren't going to get along. If you care about where I am, come with me, because I'm not going to call everyone I fucking know every time I change location, I don't have time for that shit. If you want to know what time I'll be back, tough shit, because I don't know until/unless I finally make it back.

If it makes you feel better to have people keeping tabs on you all the fucking time, that's your prerogative, but I find life to be "awesomer" when I'm [not] pedaling around the backyard with the fucking training wheels on.

Point. Missed.

Jesus Christ. If it's one thing I'll never understand, it's the affrontery people take at how other people conduct themselves when it has shit all to do with them. Live your life the way you want to live it and more power to you. Congratulations. I'm as libertarian as they come in that respect. You don't see me sitting here taking offense because you choose to do whatever it is you choose to do. Run free!

I was explaining how dynamics work in a certain group of people and why that dynamic gets the job done in assuring that your friends are not harmed when they have lost the capacity to make decisions for themselves.

I care fuck all what you think of the culture that fosters that dynamic and I fail to understand why you are getting your panties in a twist about it.

Congratulations. You're a grown fucking man who doesn't need or want anything to do with that particular dynamic. Did something I say lead you to believe that you should adopt that way of behaving? Because other people behave this way, does it have fuck all to do with your autonomy?

I offered this anecdote as one option to curb catastrophe when you plan to go out and get shit faced drunk. I.E., have a social group on whom you can rely and who has your back. You offered yours. The difference is, I'm not going on about how you fucking suck.

So, you know, feel free to go fuck yourself.

Stop taking shit so personal, dick. You said how you did it, I said I fucking hated having that shit pushed on me when I was in the Army (and it is pushed, hard as fuck). Someone else posted some bullshit sarcastic "big man" response to me, and I replied to that. I ain't talking to you anymore, so why the fuck are you flapping your gums? Get over yourself, bitch, you ain't that important.

[decius]

I meant to write ludic, not luddite.

[Guest]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

Is being accused of rape worse than death? Or is that only if you're the rapee?

[John Brown]

Oh, aren't you just adorable? Bless your cotton socks.

If you don't identify with the group I'm talking about and have no interest in belonging to such a group, why the fuck are you taking this so personally?

You *are* sorry for the interruption. Now, you can feel free to apologize anytime you wish.

Because I happened to be drafted into the Italian army, back when military service was still compulsory. there. Not my choice, you see, to waste an year of youth amongst the most brainfucked people I've ever had the misfortune to share meatspace with. Don't take it personally, though. I still managed to do fuck I wanted most of the time, and that involved breaking just about every rule in the book. It kept me sane but it put me in a direct collision course with your school of thought more than once.

Apart from that, I don't like to divulge my personal story on line. Suffice to say, that intoxication, partying and clubbing has had a major role in it for a long time and my direct experience directly contradict the anecdotes involving your comrades you shared. It's also clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, when it comes to nightlife and luddite social interactions, just like I wouldn't be able to pontificate meaningfully about military matters.
Having said that, I guess both of us chose the lifestyle which best suited us and I shall leave it there without rancour.

Fair enough, and cheers.

Just to note, there are differences in our circumstances. Where you were drafted, I volunteered, and re-enlisted two times, so I chose that lifestyle. Had I been drafted into it, I would have fought it with every fiber of my being. I don't cotton to being forced to do things I don't want to do. So, I can certainly empathize with your point of view.

I have no love for the military as a whole. If I had my way, the military would be completely stripped down and contained solely within our own borders with little forward projection capabilities.

So, really, no offense taken. I view my time in the military as a tiny, tiny fraction of who I am and what I'm about. If you were to walk into my house, you would detect absolutely no trace that I was ever in.

The original point I was making was an analogous one. It's not wise to go off drinking to excess by yourself among people you don't know very well.

It's probably wise to drink with people you trust and who you know will look after your best interests should you falter.

Are we good?

[Angry_Drunk]

podcast stuff

One time while doing Angry Mac Bastards our third partner's audio failed in the awesomest way possible. Basically his local recording ended up sounding like an hour of Daft Punk. So what else would we do but include a few seconds of that at the very front of the next show. Like less than a minute of noise.

We received dozens of panicky messages from people who obviously hadn't bothered to listen to a full 60 seconds of the show before flipping out and twittering at us.

Honestly, the worst part of having a podcast is the audience.

And don't get me going about the creepy loons who seek us out at Macworld. Those deranged freaks would leave Watson in a gibbering puddle.

[John Brown]

There's more to society than people holding your fucking hand and trying to protect you from yourself. My friends all know the deal, and they're ok with it: if you don't hear anything otherwise, assume I'm where I want to be, doing what I want to do, with the people I want to do it with, and I don't need any help. If any of those things becomes untrue, I'll let you know, and I'll assume you're extending me the same courtesy. If you need a babysitter, or think I do, we aren't going to get along. If you care about where I am, come with me, because I'm not going to call everyone I fucking know every time I change location, I don't have time for that shit. If you want to know what time I'll be back, tough shit, because I don't know until/unless I finally make it back.

If it makes you feel better to have people keeping tabs on you all the fucking time, that's your prerogative, but I find life to be "awesomer" when I'm [not] pedaling around the backyard with the fucking training wheels on.

Point. Missed.

Jesus Christ. If it's one thing I'll never understand, it's the affrontery people take at how other people conduct themselves when it has shit all to do with them. Live your life the way you want to live it and more power to you. Congratulations. I'm as libertarian as they come in that respect. You don't see me sitting here taking offense because you choose to do whatever it is you choose to do. Run free!

I was explaining how dynamics work in a certain group of people and why that dynamic gets the job done in assuring that your friends are not harmed when they have lost the capacity to make decisions for themselves.

I care fuck all what you think of the culture that fosters that dynamic and I fail to understand why you are getting your panties in a twist about it.

Congratulations. You're a grown fucking man who doesn't need or want anything to do with that particular dynamic. Did something I say lead you to believe that you should adopt that way of behaving? Because other people behave this way, does it have fuck all to do with your autonomy?

I offered this anecdote as one option to curb catastrophe when you plan to go out and get shit faced drunk. I.E., have a social group on whom you can rely and who has your back. You offered yours. The difference is, I'm not going on about how you fucking suck.

So, you know, feel free to go fuck yourself.

Stop taking shit so personal, dick. You said how you did it, I said I fucking hated having that shit pushed on me when I was in the Army (and it is pushed, hard as fuck). Someone else posted some bullshit sarcastic "big man" response to me, and I replied to that. I ain't talking to you anymore, so why the fuck are you flapping your gums? Get over yourself, bitch, you ain't that important.

Point taken.

I have no point to prove here, so I'm happy to just jot this down as talking past each other.

Cool?

[mordacious1]

So, let me get this straight, Watson doesn't learn to drive until she's in her thirties (presumably because she was never sober enough to get behind the wheel) and McFreight rode a bike for the first time last year. What is wrong with these people? Then we have McFreight's dad, who is going to beat up the internet because they're making fun of his princess, but he couldn't even take the time to teach her to ride a friggin' bicycle. Man that's just weird.

[JackRayner]

I think the skepchicks as a whole have re-invented "flirty fishing";

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llmwq ... o1_500.jpg

Had to look up the term up and all I gotta say is DAMN! Why did this go away?! :|
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Read further before posting it and got to this:

As the cult generally discourages birth control, the practice also resulted in numerous pregnancies, the offspring of which were termed Jesus babies by the organization.

NOPE! Nevermind...

[decius]

Are we good?

More than good. Hugs.

[ReneeHendricks]

So, let me get this straight, Watson doesn't learn to drive until she's in her thirties (presumably because she was never sober enough to get behind the wheel) and McFreight rode a bike for the first time last year. What is wrong with these people? Then we have McFreight's dad, who is going to beat up the internet because they're making fun of his princess, but he couldn't even take the time to teach her to ride a friggin' bicycle. Man that's just weird.

Watson-driver's-license: I have a friend who only recently got her license (she's almost 30) due to a massive amount of fear and panic while being behind the wheel. I have others who never bothered to get one as they live in cities where it's almost impractical to have a car (traffic, parking fees, etc.). So, I can cut Becky some slack in this area.

Jenny-ain't-gotta-bike: Ok, that's just weird. What child doesn't ride a bike/tricycle/Big Wheel?

[Lsuoma]

Franc, I have just read your excellent blog post, that was some hard work you did there young man, I'm proud of you!

I wonder how much of that Ophelia will quote mine if she ever gets to read it?

She'll use the word "cunt," that much is certain.

[soldierwhy]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

It can be:

[youtube]6qI4QJ_5i28[/youtube]

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

[Lsuoma]

Question: I've made a couple of unsuccessful attempts to embed a youtube video. I've tried using the youtube feature when posting and I've tried using the embed feature on youtube, neither one worked for me. What am I doing wrong?

Take the Youtube url (i.e. and remove all but the part *after* v= (so in this case, we're left with S6CFgK8nYLA). Place that between the youtube tags. Viola:

[footube]S6CFgK8nYLA[/footube]

Jenna Marbles drunkenly decorating a tree. Only the tree was raped.

Thank you!

BTW, there may be other extraneous stuff in the FoolTube link which needs chopping out too. The "v=XXXXXXXXXX" stuff may not come immediately after the youtube.com component. You'll need to identify the "v=XXXXXXXXX" stuff no matter where it is in the link, and remove everything around it. Basically, take everything between "v=" andthe first "?" or "&" character following that, and paste that in the [footube][/footube] tags.

[welch]

Hey Welch - seems your recent blog post has caught the beady eye of the Sick Wench of Doom: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... agreement/

Svan, you wouldn't know a principled disagreement from a suppository.

http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... a-fee-fee/

stupid sow, i'm not playing by her rules.

[welch]

A final word on podcast production from me.

Please take any advice that I've offered as merely friendly tips and not PRONOUNCEMENTS FROM THE GREAT AND MIGHTY PODMASTER. Welch can attest that for basically the first year we did AMB I would fly off the handle weekly at the people on Twitter rushing in to explain (podsplain?) how we were doing everything wrong. I still get pissed at the golden-eared freaks who complain about echos and hums that I can only detect by playing the show though an amplifier set to 11.

The absolute most important thing is that you're out there doing something. The content is what's most important. If people can't get over any technical issues that you might have, fuck them --- in the ear.

Exactly. If you have good content, if you are enjoyable to listen to, don't freak out about tech issues. You can eventually solve them. Get a good groove and enjoy yourselves.

[decius]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

It can be:

[youtube]6qI4QJ_5i28[/youtube]

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

Well, being part of an occupying army on foreign soil requires extraordinary precautions, I suppose.

[welch]

podcast stuff

One time while doing Angry Mac Bastards our third partner's audio failed in the awesomest way possible. Basically his local recording ended up sounding like an hour of Daft Punk. So what else would we do but include a few seconds of that at the very front of the next show. Like less than a minute of noise.

We received dozens of panicky messages from people who obviously hadn't bothered to listen to a full 60 seconds of the show before flipping out and twittering at us.

Honestly, the worst part of having a podcast is the audience.

And don't get me going about the creepy loons who seek us out at Macworld. Those deranged freaks would leave Watson in a gibbering puddle.

There were times I thought I'd have to explain about one person to a urinal.

[John Brown]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

It can be:

[youtube]6qI4QJ_5i28[/youtube]

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

Well, being part of an occupying army on foreign soil requires extraordinary precautions, I suppose.

Touche

[welch]

So, let me get this straight, Watson doesn't learn to drive until she's in her thirties (presumably because she was never sober enough to get behind the wheel) and McFreight rode a bike for the first time last year. What is wrong with these people? Then we have McFreight's dad, who is going to beat up the internet because they're making fun of his princess, but he couldn't even take the time to teach her to ride a friggin' bicycle. Man that's just weird.

Watson lives in Boston. That's actually common for that area. My mom grew up in chicago, she never learned to drive, she had no need.

The bike thing is...yeah, how the fuck do you grow up and never ride a bike?

[soldierwhy]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

It can be:

[youtube]6qI4QJ_5i28[/youtube]

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

Well, being part of an occupying army on foreign soil requires extraordinary precautions, I suppose.

Aah, bless your cotton socks attempting to push a political agenda into what was a discussion about looking after your mates. Nice deflection.

[papillon]

The bike thing is...yeah, how the fuck do you grow up and never ride a bike?

Hymen preservation...either that, or cyclists are yet another group of people that have disappointed her.

[AndrewV69]

It's a big gray area that I think should be left up to the individual, and their choice of friends. Saying that it wold be nice to have someone intervene when you're about to do something stupid or regrettable, or even that it is what you would expect from a *friend*, is not the same as saying that they are responsible for your actions.

Woud this qualify?

http://gifs.gifbin.com/062009/124453048 ... _train.gif

Just asking.

[decius]

The bike thing is...yeah, how the fuck do you grow up and never ride a bike?

You don't grow up, problem solved.

[decius]

Aah, bless your cotton socks attempting to push a political agenda into what was a discussion about looking after your mates. Nice deflection.

WTF. Can't you really see the difference between the general situation we were discussing and the special case you cherry-picked? Had John made that distinction, I wouldn't have disagreed.

[JackRayner]

It's a big gray area that I think should be left up to the individual, and their choice of friends. Saying that it wold be nice to have someone intervene when you're about to do something stupid or regrettable, or even that it is what you would expect from a *friend*, is not the same as saying that they are responsible for your actions.

Woud this qualify?

http://gifs.gifbin.com/062009/124453048 ... _train.gif

Just asking.

Would I stop one of my friend from doing that if their intent wasn't to commit suicide? I think so. :)

[AndrewV69]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

Is being accused of rape worse than death? Or is that only if you're the rapee?

There are lots of incidents written about over at

http://www.cotwa.info/ and http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/

Here is one from the Community of the Wrongly Accused:

http://www.cotwa.info/2012/12/video-spa ... iance.html

Video spares Amy Winehouse's ex-fiance from prison for rape charges
...
At his trial, jurors were told Reg’s alleged victim was “so drunk she couldn’t stand up or walk — and was experiencing blackouts and memory loss”.

But as stills from the film screened for the jury dramatically show on these pages the 27-year-old was STEADY on her feet and had NO TROUBLE walking from the club to a cab despite wearing HIGH HEELS.

Reg, who took her back to his flat, said: “They said CCTV footage would show her stumbling around drunk.

“But I have a clear memory of that night and knew that simply wasn’t the case.” He said it was clear police never properly looked at the film — as he continued: “The CCTV showed clearly that she was walking without any help whatsoever, in a pair of high heels. Amy Winehouse's ex Reg Traviss on rape trial: 'I felt very victimised'

...


After the police grilling he was so shaken that he could barely bring himself to leave his flat.

He said: “I live in central London and the thought of walking past all the pubs with people standing outside at that time of year really upset me. Then I pulled myself together. I am an innocent man and why should I be living like that?”

He said of the fateful night out with the woman friend, who cannot be named for legal reasons: “We were only merry-drunk.

“We’d been out from 10pm. We did have a few drinks.

“But that was punctuated by lots of fresh air when we walked between pubs and my brother’s nightclub Jet Black.”

He said it was 3.45am when they decided to leave — adding: “I don’t honestly believe the police, prosecutor or judge ever actually believed in her story.

“The woman who gave evidence wasn’t the woman I knew. She was aggressive and angry and completely different to the person I thought I knew.”

...

He said: “I just couldn’t believe I was so close to my life being over — and I had done nothing wrong. My family, colleagues, friends are all gone if that mud sticks. Let’s face it, allegations like this aren’t like nicking a loaf of bread or getting a speeding ticket. The stakes do not get any higher. I feel genuinely sorry for the true victims of rape. This is a disgusting insult to them, one of the most vile crimes.

"I have really strong views on sex offenders — and there I was defending myself in that arena. This is a high-profile case of someone being wrongfully accused. I sincerely hope it won’t deter the true victims of sexual assault from coming forward.”

He continued: “I was staring at a death sentence. “My barrister told me it was four to five years per charge — so potentially eight to ten years."

Reg went on: “I am fortunate that I had the means to afford proper legal representation. I dread to think what the experience would have been like on Legal Aid.”

[soldierwhy]

Aah, bless your cotton socks attempting to push a political agenda into what was a discussion about looking after your mates. Nice deflection.

WTF. Can't you really see the difference between the general situation we were discussing and the special case you cherry-picked? Had John made that distinction, I wouldn't have disagreed.

Can you not see that the point is that individuals under the influence of alcohol are prone to make stupid decisions? British soldiers in Cyprus, Germany and the UK have also fallen for the 'honey trap'. Location or politics is irrelevant. If you want to be a 'lone wolf' don't try and be part of an organisation that promotes team work and responsibility for others.

[Git]

Yeah, because as everyone knows, death is the most likely outcome of drunken sex.

It can be:

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

Well, being part of an occupying army on foreign soil requires extraordinary precautions, I suppose.

Well, you can fuck right off. Northern Ireland is British because the overwhelming majority of people there want it to be part of Britain (a principle enshrined in the GFA).

[Reap]

Here's a podcast you may enjoy
http://reapsowradio.com/graphics/beer.jpg

I use cheap equipment and record from my living room.(FYI-the windows 8 sound handling blows goats)
As long as I'm having a good time doing it I'm cool. Like someone said earlier people who aren't pleased with it can request a full refund and get every penny they spent on it back instantly. Live broadcasting is fun cause you are never gonna be perfect.The trick is in how you deal with the unforeseen issues not if you can avoid ever having them because trust me, you can not always avoid them. I love it when a listener emails me to complain about the sound quality of a guests phone and insist I have my sound guy do something about it. I'm flattered they think I have a 'sound guy' at all and I guess I seem like the kind of guy who buys new phones for anyone who needs one before I record with em. That's really cool of me to do....even in someone's imagination

[John Brown]

It can be:

I don't know about the US Military but serving in the British Army, being targetted by a terrorist organisation for over 30 years, makes you a tad uneasy about hooking up with random strangers.

Well, being part of an occupying army on foreign soil requires extraordinary precautions, I suppose.

Well, you can fuck right off. Northern Ireland is British because the overwhelming majority of people there want it to be part of Britain (a principle enshrined in the GFA).

Because I'm a dick, I once went into a pub in London and yelled, "Happy Fourth of July!" on the 4th of July. Note, the pub was mostly empty, and the people who were there, I knew. I'm not stupid, after all. ;-)

I had a friend who was traveling to Ireland who asked me what she should so when she got there. I told her that she should, in all earnestness, yell the phrase, "OLIVER CROMWELL!" as loud as she could when she set foot on shore. Thankfully she knew her history and opted to call me a dick instead.

[decius]

Aah, bless your cotton socks attempting to push a political agenda into what was a discussion about looking after your mates. Nice deflection.

WTF. Can't you really see the difference between the general situation we were discussing and the special case you cherry-picked? Had John made that distinction, I wouldn't have disagreed.

Can you not see that the point is that individuals under the influence of alcohol are prone to make stupid decisions? British soldiers in Cyprus, Germany and the UK have also fallen for the 'honey trap'. Location or politics is irrelevant. If you want to be a 'lone wolf' don't try and be part of an organisation that promotes team work and responsibility for others.

Have you ever been out at night in Heidelberg or Wiesbaden? If there's some unwritten rule against military/civilian interaction or a pervasive fear of falling for "honey-traps" crippling the US soldiers, it certainly doesn't look that way. Further, if you wish to compare the atmosphere and factual dangers in those places with the situation in Belfast in the seventies or in Bagdad now, I would suggest that you're mistaken.

I'm sure that someone here knows what I'm talking about.

[decius]

Well, you can fuck right off. Northern Ireland is British because the overwhelming majority of people there want it to be part of Britain (a principle enshrined in the GFA).

To be honest, I couldn't give a rat's arse about Northern Ireland's politics. It's good that you morons have stopped shooting each other.

[ReneeHendricks]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

[Maximus]

Hey, slymepitters

I’ve been lurking for the past 2 weeks, and decided to finally show my support and join up. Like everyone else that’s joined recently I thought the pit would be full of horrible horrible things… and I had to laugh at the fact that I bought into the propaganda of the people I can’t stand (the FTB croud), I should have known better! What I found was a bunch of awesome + funny people, pointing out the constant idiocy of some people claiming to be skeptics.

So with Rebecca’s evolutionary psychology mishap I went to the SGU forums to see if anyone was talking about it (no mention of it as of about a week ago), and ran across a thread talking about how the forum was losing/lacking members. Can anyone fill me in, did they go through some sort of feminist purge or is RW driving people away? I know I had to stop listening, can’t stand RW and her rude comments anymore.

Thanks and keep up the awesome work everybody, it is much appreciated!

[comslave]

I think the skepchicks as a whole have re-invented "flirty fishing";

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llmwq ... o1_500.jpg

Had to look up the term up and all I gotta say is DAMN! Why did this go away?! :|
.

The cult that promoted "flirty fishing" had a little problem understanding concept of "age of consent" and started banging their own kids. While they claimed to have since stopped doing this, they left a trail of damaged young adults in their wake. Atheists should just stick to baby eating.

[John Brown]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

I had a cancer scare a few years ago. I was told that what I was suffering from was most likely liver cancer (it turned out to be Celiac, instead). Here's the only piece of advice I can give you in this situation. Control your fear. It's contagious. You don't know what you don't know, so fear isn't your friend in this case. I can tell you that as scared as you are, he's terrified and he's gonna need you to be strong for him for a bit.

Also, keep an open dialogue open. I'm not trying to over-generalize here, but we men tend to internalize these kinds of things to remain strong for everyone else. That's going to take an emotional and physical toll. You need to get a jump on this now and start researching treatment options together in a calm manner. That way, if the news is bad, you'll be prepared.

Other than that, it's going to be a cruel, cruel waiting game. But, don't feel like you have to struggle through it alone. I'm sure most here would agree, even if we don't really "know" each other in real life, we still "know" each other. So, don't hesitate to PM if you just need to talk.

[welch]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

The first thing you should both do is start having long talks with your doctors. While there are some folks who may be knowlegable here, they won't come close to what they can tell you, in terms of useful medical stuff.

A quick glance at Wikipedia confirms what I thought: that term covers a LOT of things, and some of it at least is quite manageable. For example, Paul Allen, one of the Microsoft founders, has been a lymphoma survivor for decades. It looks as though with proper treatement, the 5 year survival rate is pretty good. (given who you're talking about, "excellent" would entail "100%", so i'm describing accordingly.)

From what I can tell, it's not like that "plan your funeral" pancreatic shit. There's no way cancer is ever "good", but, lymphoma appears to be one of the more manageable ones.

It still sucks hard, but maybe that helps it suck a wee bit less?

[comslave]

http://gifs.gifbin.com/062009/124453048 ... _train.gif

I take it this was the "Smoking car"?

[Lsuoma]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

Aaah, fuck, Renée, that sucks arse for you and him.

The good news is that in general lymphoma is one of the more treatable and survivable cancers. I personally know three women who have had lymphoma and one is still alive and cancer-free after 15 years.

I don't have any hard numbers, just anecdotes, I know.

[welch]

Also, keep an open dialogue open. I'm not trying to over-generalize here, but we men tend to internalize these kinds of things to remain strong for everyone else. That's going to take an emotional and physical toll. You need to get a jump on this now and start researching treatment options together in a calm manner. That way, if the news is bad, you'll be prepared.

Good point. Although sometimes, it's not even that. If i'm not feeling well, unless it's obvious, I'm just not going to comment on it. I'll get better, and my reaction to colds/flus is to go hibernate. I take care of it myself, and would rather not be bothered about it. I'm also somewhat low key, as a conversation with my wife a week or so ago in a local pub went.

"Hey, I think I should go to the emergency room"
"why"
"Well, I have this pain on my left side, and my left arm is tingling." (background: given my workout routine, chest pain is normal for me, and as I'm asthmatic, shortness of breath, especially in winter, ditto. But the arm tingling...yeah. Take that shit seriously)
"Do you need me to drive?"
"If I did, I'd have you call the EMTs, and i'd probably need CPR. Hosptital's six blocks away, lemme go get the car."
so we go, and as much as they could tell, it's just a collection of stuff. EKG was normal. I ended up going home before the rest of the tests, because I picked the ER with the NINE HOUR WAITING TIME. (Tell me again how eebul socialized medicine makes you wait and our system doesn't.)

Got my cholesterol checked, that's normal, and it's likely that it was a placebo effect. A good friend of melissa's, about my age, had just keeled over dead as a doornail from a heart attack. I'm still a little twitchy about it, but so far so good, and yes, once I get done with the current round of thyroid testing, (borderline high TSH, explains some things), I'll also have a talk with my doc about it.

I was kind of freaking out, but, i realized that Melissa would be REALLY freaking out if I started to, so I just stayed calm, because if I was about to have an incident, panic would help no one. And next time, I go to the other hospital. Fucking nine hour wait, I'd have been dead if it would have been serious.

So while he may not talk about it a lot, it may not be a show of strength. He may just genuinely not want to talk about it constantly, and get rather annoyed if it's all he gets to talk about for the next few months. keep up with things, but if he doesn't want to talk about it, let him not talk about it.

[soldierwhy]

Have you ever been out at night in Heidelberg or Wiesbaden?

On many occasions.

If there's some unwritten rule against military/civilian interaction or a pervasive fear of falling for "honey-traps" crippling the US soldiers, it certainly doesn't look that way.

Are you purposely being obtuse? The 'honey trap' example was an indication of what can happen should alcohol overtake your capacity for rational decision making. Telling your mates where you are going and with who is hardly cramping anyone's style. These are the same people who will have to expend time and effort locating you if you do go missing. Strangely, if people do go missing, the Army attitude is never 'fuck it'.

Further, if you wish to compare the atmosphere and factual dangers in those places with the situation in Belfast in the seventies or in Bagdad now, I would suggest that you're mistaken.

Are you seriously going down the route of 'x is worse so let's not discuss y'? Drunken lone soldiers have been beaten (and sometimes murdered) in every country they have ever served in.

Belfast of course is now a haven of peace and tranquility and British soldiers are more than welcome to drink in the Falls Road without fear.</sarcasm>

I'm sure that someone here knows what I'm talking about.

You, hopefully.

[ReneeHendricks]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

I had a cancer scare a few years ago. I was told that what I was suffering from was most likely liver cancer (it turned out to be Celiac, instead). Here's the only piece of advice I can give you in this situation. Control your fear. It's contagious. You don't know what you don't know, so fear isn't your friend in this case. I can tell you that as scared as you are, he's terrified and he's gonna need you to be strong for him for a bit.

Also, keep an open dialogue open. I'm not trying to over-generalize here, but we men tend to internalize these kinds of things to remain strong for everyone else. That's going to take an emotional and physical toll. You need to get a jump on this now and start researching treatment options together in a calm manner. That way, if the news is bad, you'll be prepared.

Other than that, it's going to be a cruel, cruel waiting game. But, don't feel like you have to struggle through it alone. I'm sure most here would agree, even if we don't really "know" each other in real life, we still "know" each other. So, don't hesitate to PM if you just need to talk.

Thank you. I say *might* because it seemed as though the doctor wasn't quite sure (he was going by biopsy results so I'm thinking WTF?).

He is the sort who internalizes a lot. I say I'm scared shitless but I do try to keep that hidden. Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. And I will PM "bend your ear" should the need arise (thank you).

[ReneeHendricks]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

The first thing you should both do is start having long talks with your doctors. While there are some folks who may be knowlegable here, they won't come close to what they can tell you, in terms of useful medical stuff.

A quick glance at Wikipedia confirms what I thought: that term covers a LOT of things, and some of it at least is quite manageable. For example, Paul Allen, one of the Microsoft founders, has been a lymphoma survivor for decades. It looks as though with proper treatement, the 5 year survival rate is pretty good. (given who you're talking about, "excellent" would entail "100%", so i'm describing accordingly.)

From what I can tell, it's not like that "plan your funeral" pancreatic shit. There's no way cancer is ever "good", but, lymphoma appears to be one of the more manageable ones.

It still sucks hard, but maybe that helps it suck a wee bit less?

I did do a quick bit of research this morning online and saw that it's more manageable than other forms of cancer. Still...it's the big "C". Hopefully we'll know a bit more next week.

[ReneeHendricks]

Because you guys don't sugar coat shit and because this is one of the last places my somewhat 'net savvy relatives won't come calling, I need to get some cold hard facts on lymphoma. My guy *might* be dealing with this and, to be quite honest, I'm scared fucking shitless. I don't want to lose the very best friend I've ever had in this world.

Aaah, fuck, Renée, that sucks arse for you and him.

The good news is that in general lymphoma is one of the more treatable and survivable cancers. I personally know three women who have had lymphoma and one is still alive and cancer-free after 15 years.

I don't have any hard numbers, just anecdotes, I know.

The stats online seem to lean more toward it being a treatable/survivable cancer. I had to deal with my step-father slowly being eaten away by squamous cell carcinoma (in his jaw and neck) so I tend to be over-the-top freaked over *any* form of cancer.

What's irritating right now is that it seems as though the doctor that talked to my guy last night (discussing the results of the biopsy done earlier this week) wasn't quite sure. How the fuck does that happen? I mean, it either is or isn't, right?

[decius]

Have you ever been out at night in Heidelberg or Wiesbaden?

On many occasions.

Excellent, then we have an experience in common that can help us to forward the conversation.

Are you purposely being obtuse? The 'honey trap' example was an indication of what can happen should alcohol overtake your capacity for rational decision making. Telling your mates where you are going and with who is hardly cramping anyone's style. These are the same people who will have to expend time and effort locating you if you do go missing. Strangely, if people do go missing, the Army attitude is never 'fuck it'.

No, I've just absolutely no idea what you're talking about, unless you were in Germany in 1945-47 or thereabouts. Please, describe for me what a honey-trap situation entails, here and now.

Are you seriously going down the route of 'x is worse so let's not discuss y'? Drunken lone soldiers have been beaten (and sometimes murdered) in every country they have ever served in.

Really, does that include Western Europe in recent times? Honest question.