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Steersman wrote:And a tendency to believe in things for which there is not the smallest shred of tangible evidence – and in spite of a great amount of circumstantial evidence against them – really doesn’t seem to qualify as “beneficial”.
Believing the tales and warnings of the elders of your society without question is of great benefit, because it means ech individual doesn't have to learn the rules for themselves and so society can improve quicker with fewer needless deaths and lifes devoted to re-inventing the wheel.

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rayshul wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:This is what the current situation is in North America, and this is what happened to Queeen Bee:
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Hahaha. That's hilariously true. Not as old as Queen Bee, though (just). Shit though, my husband is about to enter the player zone...
Just remember that men are like dogs in that you can train them. If you do it properly and remember to maintain them (dogs need to be walked, men need sex) generally he will not stray.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Re: summary of events

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sacha wrote:I think we need to begin to bookmark explanations and background of specific "events" that have been discussed here at length.
Could Phawrongula be used for that? I found the phawrongula article on EGate very useful as it linked to everything on every side and if we found a few opposers who were willing to check it to make sure we included information they thought was relevant.

If it were like a wiki it would be easier to use is all I'm thinking.

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rayshul wrote:
Steve Gibson wrote:http://www.change.org/petitions/atheist ... -minnesota

THE COMMUNITY HAS TO ACT TO REMOVE THESE BULLIES...
I feel like if there are enough wild-ass petitions out there, change.org may rethink its policy of letting any old ninny with an axe to grind to set up a petition.
Ditto. Besides, do we really want to become the baboons' mirror image - jocularly or otherwise? If it's a joke, the outsiders won't get it anyway.

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cunt wrote:Looks like her campaign based on nothing more substantial than chinese whispers hasn't been the great success vinegar-tits was hoping for. Obviously then, twitter people (rightly) thinking that she's an idiot will prove something.

Some good, pretty spot-on messages in there.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... -petition/
They who fling poo shall reap the twitstorm.

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Ohoh, seems like Oolon might get in a bit of trouble (I really hope not, though):

Jose to Oolon:
And I don’t like your going to the slyme pit to call FTB bloggers baboons and then coming over here to call them nutty haters.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-125289

And I kinda have to agree with Jose, there. It's just weird.

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And it seems I've put my foot in my mouth again. No trace of Oolon calling FTBers baboons, as far as the search engine here goes.

My apologies, Oolon.

Phil: first research, then post comment, you dumb ass!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Ohoh, seems like Oolon might get in a bit of trouble (I really hope not, though):

Jose to Oolon:
And I don’t like your going to the slyme pit to call FTB bloggers baboons and then coming over here to call them nutty haters.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-125289

And I kinda have to agree with Jose, there. It's just weird.
Oolon's behavior explained by xkcd

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/atheists.png

There is one good thing about his behavior - he's managed to bring the slymepit and FFTB together on one point - we both agree that oolon is a dishonest twat.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:And it seems I've put my foot in my mouth again. No trace of Oolon calling FTBers baboons, as far as the search engine here goes.

My apologies, Oolon.

Phil: first research, then post comment, you dumb ass!
Lesson two:never trust chat board search engines.

See here.

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Oh Dear...

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Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/gG02L.jpg

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mikelf wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:And it seems I've put my foot in my mouth again. No trace of Oolon calling FTBers baboons, as far as the search engine here goes.

My apologies, Oolon.

Phil: first research, then post comment, you dumb ass!
Lesson two:never trust chat board search engines.

See here.
Ok, you got me, my search didn't pull that one up.

So back to my previous assessment, then...

Dear FSM, the interwebz iz complicated.

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No need to beat yourself up about Baboolon. He strikes me as a christian plant with the mission to stir shit up or as a grandstanding turd, who gets his kicks from the delusion of being superior to everyone else.

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Michael K Gray wrote:Oh dear!
Another revenue stream for Myers dries up.
'''<- crocodile tears.
http://www.michaelgray.com.au/Resources/Revenue--.png
Hahahahah, PZ's so desparate for RSS ad hits, that he even set it up so that his *comment* feed has them too, not only the article feed. I think he was doing that to take advantage of the long comment threads he used to get. Brayton was doing it on his comment feed too. A while back I subscribed temporarily to all their comment feeds just to see who had ads on them and who didn't. People doing that is probably why they've closed down RSS ads. It was only meant for each visitor to cause 1 hit per article, not 1 + (number of comments) hits per article.

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Re: Oh Dear...

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Dick Strawkins wrote:Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/gG02L.jpg
Well played, sir. Well played.

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Scented Nectar wrote:
Hahahahah, PZ's so desparate for RSS ad hits, that he even set it up so that his *comment* feed has them too, not only the article feed. I think he was doing that to take advantage of the long comment threads he used to get. Brayton was doing it on his comment feed too. A while back I subscribed temporarily to all their comment feeds just to see who had ads on them and who didn't. People doing that is probably why they've closed down RSS ads. It was only meant for each visitor to cause 1 hit per article, not 1 + (number of comments) hits per article.
One can only conclude that Peezus and Brayton are a pair of conniving thieving cunts.

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Re: summary of events

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sacha wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
AKAHorace wrote:Wait, Jason is claiming that Justin Vacula gave out Surly Amy's home address ? Is this true ?
Background: Justin got DMCA'd by Amy for showing a pic of her necklace in an article about her (considered Fair Use as far as copyrights go). He appealed it, and that process requires him giving out his own real name/address. The next step would have been for her to file legal papers where her name/address would get revealed.

So, they accused Justin, saying that he was appealing just to find out Amy's address. He said no, that wouldn't be necessary since Amy has already made her own address public on a business listings website. To prove it, he showed the listing that Amy herself had made public. When he copied it here to the Slimepit, they suddenly accused him of docdropping, said Amy has to move now, and then they proceeded to docdrop Justin, who's info was NOT listed publicly the way Amy's was.

They know the real story and that Justin never docdropped Amy, but they are cherry picking just his copying of it to the Slimepit, to make it look like he did.
That was an excellent summary, SN.

I think we need to begin to bookmark explanations and background of specific "events" that have been discussed here at length.
The Phawrongula Wiki would be a good place to expand on, with the summaries there, and links wherever needed to relevant comments on the current or past SlimePits.

I found total shun mode to work quite well on the thing that shall not be named (in case the thing does a search). The thing totally gave up when faced with overwhelming non-response. I advise that for anyone with a the thing that shall not be named problem.

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The FTB hetero-males will have a shame-fap over that. She's very cute.

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Apologies if someone has posted this already but it's too funny not to share.

The criticalg reads 'Schrödingers Rapist'

[youtube]YlK_aQjzqrQ[/youtube]

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Re: Oh Dear...

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Dick Strawkins wrote:Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/gG02L.jpg
How odd. Did this definitely come from the RDF site? Cos it looks like all they've done is superimpose the RDF logo over the Surlyramics(tm) of Amy's pulchritudinous pal, Sue: http://surlyramics.com/wp-content/uploa ... girl-2.jpg

http://surlyramics.com/wp-content/uploa ... girl-2.jpg

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The plot thickens...

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Tigzy wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.

http://i.imgur.com/gG02L.jpg
How odd. Did this definitely come from the RDF site?
I saw it on Skepsheiks site and presumed the "famous atheist" referred to Richard Dawkins.
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/10/se ... ed-by.html

If that is the original source I guess the picture isn't sexist after all. ;)

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Re: Oh Dear...

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Dick Strawkins wrote:Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.
Where'd you find that Dick, I don't see it on the RDF site. Doesn't Sulky Amy make that stuff for them anyway? (I mean the 'art' not the breasts. I wasn't even looking at the breasts.)

Oh, now I get it. It's from Sulky's site: "Surly girl of the Month: Sue Gisser."

I notice Sulky also makes stuff for Justin's new pals at Secular Woman. The creature gets everywhere! It's lucky she has no problem entering into business arrangements with organisations featuring people she despises isn't it?

Speaking of which, reading the site, SW seem a bit mis-named:
Secular Woman envisions a future in which women without supernatural beliefs have the opportunities and resources they need to participate openly and confidently as respected voices of leadership in the secular community and every aspect of American society.
My italics. Wouldn't that be 'Atheist Woman' then? There's nothing to prevent people with supernatural beliefs supporting secularism. There's also an article where the President apologises for her privilege. Yellow alert!

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Re: Oh Dear...

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Dick Strawkins wrote: I saw it on Skepsheiks site and presumed the "famous atheist" referred to Richard Dawkins.
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/10/se ... ed-by.html

If that is the original source I guess the picture isn't sexist after all. ;)
I notice Skepsheik didn't give a link to the picture - and it's nowhere (that I can see, anyway) on the RDF store. http://store.richarddawkins.net/

Looks to me like the pic is bollocks - a put-up job to makethe RDF look bad, for whatever reason.

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decius wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:
Hahahahah, PZ's so desparate for RSS ad hits, that he even set it up so that his *comment* feed has them too, not only the article feed. I think he was doing that to take advantage of the long comment threads he used to get. Brayton was doing it on his comment feed too. A while back I subscribed temporarily to all their comment feeds just to see who had ads on them and who didn't. People doing that is probably why they've closed down RSS ads. It was only meant for each visitor to cause 1 hit per article, not 1 + (number of comments) hits per article.
One can only conclude that Peezus and Brayton are a pair of conniving thieving cunts.
Yes. I made a video about it, and soon after that, Brayton's comments started showing ads on some, but not all, so he must have heard about it and was setting them up on his comments. Then PZ's turned from some comments having ads, to all having ads, to some again. They must have been fucking with the settings and had downtimes for their ads, I figure. Here's the video I made about it a couple months ago, from before Brayton's comments were showing ads too. It was just PZ at this point, I think:

[youtube]zUsKJafefdw[/youtube]

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Re: Oh Dear...

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Tigzy wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote: I saw it on Skepsheiks site and presumed the "famous atheist" referred to Richard Dawkins.
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/10/se ... ed-by.html

If that is the original source I guess the picture isn't sexist after all. ;)
I notice Skepsheik didn't give a link to the picture - and it's nowhere (that I can see, anyway) on the RDF store. http://store.richarddawkins.net/

Looks to me like the pic is bollocks - a put-up job to makethe RDF look bad, for whatever reason.
Skepsheik, from what I read there, seems to be a lulz blog. Not a totally bad one as it is, and I wonder how FTB will spin it once they see the pics here...

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Skepsheik's first post and self description:
We put the fun in fundamentalism and the hip in hypocrisy
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/07/skepsheiks.html

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Skepsheik's first post and self description:
We put the fun in fundamentalism and the hip in hypocrisy
But no links in evid-um...ince, it seems. :think:

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Well, I tried to take my own advice, and I went to enter Justin as witch of the week ending Sept 30, on Phawrongula (http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Phawrongula_Wiki) using my summary, but I'm a few coffees short of figuring out the wiki's edit mode. Maybe later today. I'll have to look for links anyways first. But, if anyone wants to jump in and do it themselves, I wouldn't mind a bit! And if you like my summary, feel free to use it. :)

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I DON'T CARE ABOUT NO LINKIES!!!111ELEBEN!!!

Just for this, they stole my heart:
Official Apology from Skep Sheik



It is with great regret that I must now address the fact that I labeled the recent "Are You Fem Enough" picture of Rebecca Watson as "The Ke$ha of Atheism".

I realize now the hurt I have caused by callously describing a talented and caring individual in this way.

Many young women and girls look up to her as a positive role model and the likening of her to such a shallow celebrity wannabe was, quite simply, wrong.



I hereby sincerely apologize.



Sorry Ke$ha
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/08/re ... ology.html

Yeah, I'm pretty easy when it comes to comedy...

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@Phil

Ah...I think I'm 'getting it' now, as regards that sexually objectifying pic.

Need more nicotine to aid with better satire detection...

No linky required on the part of Skepsheik...I think... :?

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Scented Nectar wrote: Yes. I made a video about it, and soon after that, Brayton's comments started showing ads on some, but not all, so he must have heard about it and was setting them up on his comments. Then PZ's turned from some comments having ads, to all having ads, to some again. They must have been fucking with the settings and had downtimes for their ads, I figure. Here's the video I made about it a couple months ago, from before Brayton's comments were showing ads too. It was just PZ at this point
Interesting, thanks.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Who, where, what, why...etc is this from? Context please?

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Ohoh, seems like Oolon might get in a bit of trouble (I really hope not, though):

Jose to Oolon:
And I don’t like your going to the slyme pit to call FTB bloggers baboons and then coming over here to call them nutty haters.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-125289

And I kinda have to agree with Jose, there. It's just weird.
Oolon's behavior explained by xkcd

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/atheists.png

There is one good thing about his behavior - he's managed to bring the slymepit and FFTB together on one point - we both agree that oolon is a dishonest twat.
I agree entirely with the xkcd sentiment and you have my blessing to consider me whatever part of female anatomy you like (Oolon is an ovary has a nice alliteration'y sound to it) - I think anyone not getting involved in any way could be rightly criticised that way. But it is not a great reason to take sides so far you involve yourself in hateful obsession or behaviour IMO. I've made it clear I don't agree with 90+% of what you lot say and do and agree with 90+% of what is said and done at FtBs... I think that is clear from what I've said on here...

I find it hard to believe Jose is that lacking in an irony meter (No idea who he/she is tho)... I can believe it of Tuvok however.
Of course I'm talking about the Baboons here as they are sooo keen to paper over their doc-dropping, Ladens and insults while moaning about Justin Vacula? Or am I talking about the Pittizens and their microscopic interest in any mis-step by the FtB-Skepchicks and rational justifications for errors their side?
That 'Baboon' bit was obviously said in parody! Especially as I made my thoughts about Justin Vacula clear... Anyway what is so bad about calling anyone a Baboon? Other than some here do it... Not exactly a slur or anything, I would have thought it would be Pharyngula approved as a non-slur insult if no one here used it.

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Peezus gets a mention in today's Graun in an otherwise tedious and predictable Grawn Dawkins basher by Michael Ruse. I can only think they knock these out for the page hits; as commenter BarabbasFreed says "Ah. The name. The photo. The huge long thread and lots of clicks. Gotta love it".

Ruse hilariously refers to Hitch as "Peter Hitchens" (fixed now, but evidenced in the comments) and is butt-hurt by the fact that "The Minnesota biologist PZ Myers, who writes the blog Pharyngula, has referred to [him] as a "clueless gobshite".

(I see this is a potted version of an article in Aeon magazine, whatever that is.)

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Who, where, what, why...etc is this from? Context please?
This conversation.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Oolon:
That 'Baboon' bit was obviously said in parody! Especially as I made my thoughts about Justin Vacula clear... Anyway what is so bad about calling anyone a Baboon? Other than some here do it... Not exactly a slur or anything, I would have thought it would be Pharyngula approved as a non-slur insult if no one here used it.
You might just be starting to 'get it'. Keep up the good work!


Argosy: meh. I don't really care about MRAs. I thought it was something more juicy, although the "deserve to be beaten" bit is not my kind of interraction with people.

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Come see my blurry, and unnaturally enhanced, autumn pictures, taken from the laziness of my balcony!
http://scentednectar.blogspot.com/2012/ ... ronto.html

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Got lots to catch up with, since my woman banning me from the internet lyphe and the start of another school quarter has kept me away from the pit. I'll start here though;
Steersman wrote:Why not, for example, call some supposed misogynist an AK47 as that too could probably be construed as “dangerous to a woman’s health”
[Pretend-Outrage]

I OBJECT! Men, by far, outnumber women who've been killed by AK's, and all of their variants. :snooty:

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Michael K Gray wrote:
astrokid.nj wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote: She deals with a minor subset of the topic at 13min+, but avoids the point of the staggeringly significant risk of dying in childbirth! (Amongst the many other physiological hazards during pregnancy)
It is precisely this risk that I am proposing affects female instinctual psychology.
GWW does not deal with this huge risk in any meaningful way, but insouciantly assumes that a healthy child will be born, and then goes on to discuss the attendent consequences of mate choices from there on.
The nearest I can find is this...
On Objectification
Thanks for the transcript, I really appreciate it. (Femscribe+ ?!)
That merely reinforces my previous concern, in that GWW assumes that the pregnancy & childbirth presents a negligible cost, and concentrates on what the costs are after a magically healthy infant is then born without fuss or problems!
The terrible historic medical hazards presented by the 9 months of pregnancy, and the often fatal parturition process appears to be off her radar.
It is these hazards that females in primitive tribes get to see on a regular basis, (even today), that must surely play on their psyche to an enormous extent.
Seeing one's sisters, one's mother, aunts etc, slowly but surely dying during a very painful birth, or giving birth to monsters, or dying mid-term through auto-abortions, was (and still is) a regular occurrence away from effective medical care.
I would have thought that THESE ever-present fatal hazards are far more costly than giving birth to a healthy child to an absent beta male!
I was correct: GWW has not addressed this huge issue at all.
The HUGUMGOUS differential health COSTS & fatal risks of pregnancy & childbirth is the elephant in the room as far as the attitudes of potentially fertile females versus males toward fucking.
Far more profound than mating with a beta male.
How then, do you explain reluctance to mate from the females (or, hell, even just the female half of hermaphroditic species) of many other species? :think: I fully admit that I haven't looked at the rates of child-birth related deaths in other species, but I'm sure they happen... And something tells me that, in the great majority of these, there is no cognitive process comparable to "I saw Molly die due to her pregnancy, so I'm going to avoid becoming pregnant as best I can!"

What do you think about this?

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By the way, SPACKlick, The False Pooka blocked me from commenting on his videos after I called him out on his message deleting. I'm planning on making and posting a video on it later. It'll be the first video response I ever make, and it might be the last. [Will probably have to ask GWW to host the response.] Also the first for my current user channel. Had some on a past channel that I deleted, but they were essentially vacation videos. [If videos of me riding the gun turret of a military truck through Iraq with a loaded crew-served weapon could qualify as such...]

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Jean Kazez drinking ever more deeply of the intellect-free Flavor-aid:

http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/10/guilt- ... ation.html

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Rebbecca Watson, in a truly spell-binding post of two-faced baffle-gab, finds The Truth:

http://skepchick.org/2012/10/the-value-of-truth/

Watson says:
I believe that truth has inherent value and that skepticism is most crucially applied to the things we want to believe.
Who'd a thunkit?

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John Greg wrote:Jean Kazez drinking ever more deeply of the intellect-free Flavor-aid:

http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/10/guilt- ... ation.html
I wonder whether she’s done a survey and assessed the perspectives of all those who might be posting on “White Guys R Us” and Stormy Front and A Voice for Men ….

And I wonder whether Kazez might be able to broker a deal with Jehovah for him to not destroy the reputations of people posting on such sites and the sites themselves if she can find “even ten righteous people” who post on said sites ….

God, I love the smell of self-righteousness in the morning ….

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John Greg wrote:Jean Kazez drinking ever more deeply of the intellect-free Flavor-aid:

http://kazez.blogspot.ca/2012/10/guilt- ... ation.html
I assume this is supposed to be in defense of those who claim individual X is a misogynist because they post on a website Y, which is claimed by some to be misogynistic?

I think that before they even attempt to reach a conclusion about individual X, [whose behavior isn't even misogynistic] they first need to prove that website Y is what they claim it is. By this logic, wouldn't everyone on Twitter be a misogynist too? :)

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John Greg wrote:Rebbecca Watson, in a truly spell-binding post of two-faced baffle-gab, finds The Truth:

http://skepchick.org/2012/10/the-value-of-truth/

Watson says:
I believe that truth has inherent value and that skepticism is most crucially applied to the things we want to believe.
Who'd a thunkit?
The myriad levels of irony and hypocrisy weaving through that post, like huge, misty chinese dragons doing battle is almost too much for my feeble brain to contain.
To top it off nicely, Tracy "I was once longlisted for something" King comments that she has received abuse for "asking questions".
Hyperskeptic- reversal! What a move! Has the universe imploded?

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This was in the news in Kanukistan yesterday. I was boggling because I had no idea that this sort of thing had been going on at all.

California bans teenage gay conversion therapy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19789505
California Governor Jerry Brown has signed into law a ban on therapy aimed at making gay teenagers straight.
I can only imagine the effect that this sort of nonsense would have had on my childhood friend had he been subjected to this "therapy" as a teen.

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AndrewV69 wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19789505
California Governor Jerry Brown has signed into law a ban on therapy aimed at making gay teenagers straight.
I can only imagine the effect that this sort of nonsense would have had on my childhood friend had he been subjected to this "therapy" as a teen.
Still have this one my "Watch Later". Have only gotten through the first part of these, but from what I watched so far, I think it paints a decent picture of what can happen to those subjected to that type of therapy...

[youtube]pqc7iAPsCzU[/youtube]

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Dipping my toe in the slyme pit. Apparent indefensible rape apologist & chill girl here -- questioned Rebecca Watson why she thinks violent humor she participates in is okay, but reddit is a horrible pool of rape threats. After she called me a twit, I called her a bitch. I'm currently the founder and one of two members of my very own atheist club in the Sacramento area. (Davis Area FreeThinkers, or D.A.F.T.). Glad to be here.

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Tkmlac wrote:Dipping my toe in the slyme pit. Apparent indefensible rape apologist & chill girl here -- questioned Rebecca Watson why she thinks violent humor she participates in is okay, but reddit is a horrible pool of rape threats. After she called me a twit, I called her a bitch. I'm currently the founder and one of two members of my very own atheist club in the Sacramento area. (Davis Area FreeThinkers, or D.A.F.T.). Glad to be here.
Welcome. A sense of humor is mandatory which your D.A.F.T. obviously indicates and without which one could not possibly survive reading much of FTB/Skepchick/AtheismPlus …. :-)

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Lsuoma wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
AKAHorace wrote: Wait, Jason is claiming that Justin Vacula gave out Surly Amy's home address ? Is this true ?
Yes...

...sort of - what he actually did was post a link to a publicly accessible site which gave the address.
And an image of the building, IIRC.
No, actually, he didn't out anywone, if you didn't stalk him. *doh*. :p

Yeah, Justin so outed dipshit Amy's public business address. I'm sorry, but skepchick gets prefaced by dipshit now. I mean, like he really had to work hard to get her public business address.

Still, I might disrember what the actual address was, cause I didn't give a shit...

I still don't give a shit, but right now it took me like two minutes to get Sulky whatever's current business address. No, I won't post it, but getting her address is like a google query away, yeah, it's that fucking hard *shiver*. iirc, the search string was 'surlyramics address' and then it was only a matter of clicking on idiotic webPages.
No, actually it was 'surlyramics address trademark'.
And the result points to 'http://www.trademarkia.com'.
Oh, watever, it's 'http://www.trademarkia.com/surlyramics-85345167.html'

So, yeah, I doc-dropped a business address right now. If that's wrong... Oh fuck for any OSS license.
Whatever. Oh fuck, I right now did what I never wanted too. Who gives a shit?
Lemme guess Prune, Bee, * and at lest other idiots.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:Oops, big mistake by the marketing department of the Richard Dawkins foundation.

If you are being accused of misogyny then the last thing you should be doing is using sexually objectifying pictures like this when selling your trinkets.

Lets hope that the FTB crowd don't spot this, it's practically exhibit A.
http://i.imgur.com/gG02L.jpg
How odd. Did this definitely come from the RDF site?
I saw it on Skepsheiks site and presumed the "famous atheist" referred to Richard Dawkins.
http://skepsheik.blogspot.se/2012/10/se ... ed-by.html

If that is the original source I guess the picture isn't sexist after all. ;)
I wonder whether Stefunny might now decide to give Amy a hard-time for using “booth babes” since she apparently wanted to prevent their use at various conventions ….

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Thanks again for all the support including e-mails (and donations!) to the SCA if anyone here sent them.
Many have questioned about my health and expressed concern elsewhere.
I am fine although am very exhausted and have a headache.

So some updates:

The PA State Atheist/Humanist Conference I spoke at this weekend was phenomenal. The organizers did a stellar job, especially for the first conference they organized, and I met some really great people - many of whom told me that the event was their first 'secular event' even when considering local meetings. People from diverse political viewpoints were happy to work together and engage (?) in fellowship for a secular cause (and fun!). Many even were very much unaware of internet drama or flat-out told me that they were sick of it to the point where they stopped reading it and following particular persons. I was very well-received and I thought my speech went very well. Sharon Hill asked me a great question in the Q&A which should be a future blog post of mine (you'll find out what...or you can 'cyberstalk' me on Twitter!) and I very happily livetweeted her talk and panel experience. Finally, I interviewed and had dinner with a very gracious Dan Barker from the FFRF and then returned home - podcast with him to come :)

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Also, Emily Dietle has offered a very reasonable blog post concerning my SCA nomination and the controversy which ensued. The comments are building up, too, including Greg Laden, Watson, Karla Porter and others.

http://emilyhasbooks.com/second-chances/

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,,,and at risk of another debate here on tone, language, I would request to not heap abuse on my detractors no matter what they say. Attack ideas, not persons has been my mantra for a great majority of time when considering public disagreements. Take it or leave it...and thanks again.

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JackRayner wrote:How then, do you explain reluctance to mate from the females (or, hell, even just the female half of hermaphroditic species) of many other species? :think: I fully admit that I haven't looked at the rates of child-birth related deaths in other species, but I'm sure they happen... And something tells me that, in the great majority of these, there is no cognitive process comparable to "I saw Molly die due to her pregnancy, so I'm going to avoid becoming pregnant as best I can!"

What do you think about this?
I can see why you raise it, but to amplify your speculation:
One MUST refer to species who are cognitively able to recognise that they are female "put themselves in another female's place" and imagine that what other females experience is likely their fate.
They MUST cognitively connect the act of copulation with the risk of pregnancy, of course.
Those who regularly accidentally die in giving birth.
And those who have mutually cryptic ovulation.
(To name but 3 of scores of necessary caveats by which to make any sane comparison with homo sapiens.)
This dramatically reduces the pool of species down to at most a handful, more more realistically: just one.
And for that putative residue that has been previously mentioned I, and others have already comprehensively dismissed them.

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justinvacula wrote: Finally, I interviewed and had dinner with a very gracious Dan Barker from the FFRF and then returned home - podcast with him to come :)
Oh Dear, looks like Dan Barker is going to be the next Witch Of The Week.

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Dick Strawkins wrote: I don't know what the rest of you think but my thoughts on of the first four or five years of Skepchicks (the TAM parties, the body shots from strippers, the skeptics in the pub parties, the naked calenders etc) is that it's about as close a definition of 'chill girls' as you can imagine.
In other words they are projecting their anger towards other women over what they remember themselves doing and now consider shameful.
Whether the other woman in question is doing things in such a blatant attention whoring manner as the earlier Skepchicks is not the question. They percieve every action as being to garner attention - because that is the only way they see things.
Could be, some of them sound a bit like members of the "ex-gay" movement. "I lived the lifestyle and I hated every cock-chasing moment of it!"
real horrorshow wrote: I did like one bit of Tibo's wibble though:
He is a leader only of brigands
Brigands eh? Cool. Once again the FCs coin an insult that sounds like a complement, like 'Chill Girl'.
We few, we happy few, we band of brigands?

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justinvacula wrote:***
Also, Emily Dietle has offered a very reasonable blog post concerning my SCA nomination and the controversy which ensued. The comments are building up, too, including Greg Laden, Watson, Karla Porter and others.

http://emilyhasbooks.com/second-chances/

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Yes I see the usual suspects commenting there. My only comment is that one can only hope they do not breed if one believes as I do, that they are genetically incapable of being decent human beings.

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Tkmlac, welcome, fellow "gender traitor"! :)

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