Periodic Table of Swearing

[TheMan]

TV people Forum from Special Broadcasting Services (SBS) Australia

Topic: Trolls

Well worth the watch... covers a variety of troll topics and 3 live Trolls with various definitions from 3 continents.

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[TheMan]

Not one I'm at, since the whole "married" thing means hitting on people is right out. Harmless flrting, a-okay, (which along with the "married and safe to flirt with" thing means the local roller derby team is some of the most fun people I know), looking similarly so, actually trying to have sex? mmmm....nope.

Far be it from me to judge, but no way I could ever stay in a marriage where hitting on people was right out. How you people do it is beyond me.

It's easy when neither of you know how to do it or have any interest in it. I'd be a great marriage counsellor, it'd be all like, why do you want to cheat? Wouldn't you prefer to have a nice nap?

And to tie this topic with feminism I have to tell a story.

I'll cut out the fluff. Met a woman at a dinner party, we got talking at the end of the party she asks me if I would consider a "fuck date". I said yes and we arrange a time and place to meet up. We meet up again the following weekend and she mentions there are rules I have to follow.

1) this will happen once and only once:
2) Do not fall in love

I quizzed her on this as I wasn't really thinking beyond that evening.

She has been married for 7 years and her husband is cool with this set up (he is allowed too). The rules insisted on ensure it' remains a fling and not an affair. No limits to the amount of flings in a given time period.

On the way back to my place we stop by a phone booth ( era tell) and she confirms with husband she won't be home that night.....then...then... she hands the phone to me! I almost shit myself ( I pondered on this reaction later) and he's on the other end telling me to have a good time.

I swear I spent many many hours thinking through this event. It realised what an insecure twat I had been in the past in relationships and to a lesser degree these days still am. I don't think I can go to that level of freedom but I know that flirting I'm cool with.

It comes down to trust, levels of insecurity & maturity.

I did end up wanting a second go but I kept that desire to myself and formed a good friendship with her and her husband for a couple of years till they moved out of town.

[Skep tickle]

Wow - no posts here in several hours after TheMan posts that tale from his past?

What, did he write her phone number up on the wall & now everyone is lining up for their turn? Or just out trying their "hitting on" techniques? (And how much do those overlap with PUA techniques?)

[Philip of Tealand]

And fuck your keyboard too.

I did, now I think it has made things a whole lot worse, dammit that is the last time I'm taking keyboard maintenance tips from you!

[Adam Coleman]

Kitschmaven ‏@auntiesiannan
"Okay, folks, tell me what on earth a "Watsonite" is and why I am supposed to worry about being "branded" as one?"

I think all of us should help her out and break it down for her.

[Skep tickle]

Apologies if this is re-posted, but I've just watched this vid.
It's apparently a dialogue between an educated woman and a belligerent teen. Ann Althouse isn't buying Rebecca's shit at all.
(TL;DW) Personal highlights include:
[*]A description of Elevator Guy (which subsequently triggers her prosopagnosia.)
[*]A toe-curling reading of 'Dear Muslima' which can't end soon enough for Bex.
[*]Bex describing herself as an 'atheist communicator'
[*]Her being told that if she was alert, she could have simply walked out of the elevator.
[*]A claim that if a woman attends a meeting with thirty guys, she will be hit on thirty times and have to reject thirty guys.
[*]Advising men to "...Put fort the effort to learn how to behave like human beings"
[*] 'I can't tell you how many men have touched me inappropriately at these conferences."
[*]Ann suggests that these are perhaps socially awkward men and that Bex should we have some sympathy towards them.
Rebecca (laughing) - No.
[*]Ann accuses Rebecca of not being critical towards the 'religion of feminism'.

Skip first 20mins
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That was an interesting interview. Interesting to see their faces on the split screen; you're right that one comes across like the adult and the other like a teenager - less well grounded, more petulant, etc.

The content was interesting, too, with Althouse repeatedly proposing completely reasonable intepretations, stances, questions, etc that contrasted so markedly with Rebecca's. That contrast really highlighted how much Rebecca seems to be viewing male-female interactions through her own lens, sexualizing everything then assigning blame to men for that.

I'm not going to go back right now & find it, but there was one exchange where Rebecca got kind of agitated about how "they" (men") need to realize women are people (or human, I can't remember how she said it); as she kept emphasizing "women are people", it really came across in that stretch as her discounting "men are people." YMMV in terms of what you hear in that stretch.

Somebody please tell me what conferences are those in which 30 out of 30 men hit on a single woman...

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous (and came across as self-aggrandizing).

[DownThunder]

The women-as-human response is as puzzling as the accusations of misogyny. Whenever I have seen someone use that ploy, they never explain what their definition of a human is and why a specific action or behaviour would contravene that definition or deprive someone of that status. It just seems to be about shock value and shifting goalposts. I was particularly puzzled when ~18 months ago it was being applied to dating & socialisation. Have any of you attempted to date something non-human? Be honest. I wont judge.

[Guest]

Not one I'm at, since the whole "married" thing means hitting on people is right out. Harmless flrting, a-okay, (which along with the "married and safe to flirt with" thing means the local roller derby team is some of the most fun people I know), looking similarly so, actually trying to have sex? mmmm....nope.

Far be it from me to judge, but no way I could ever stay in a marriage where hitting on people was right out. How you people do it is beyond me.

It's easy when neither of you know how to do it or have any interest in it. I'd be a great marriage counsellor, it'd be all like, why do you want to cheat? Wouldn't you prefer to have a nice nap?

And to tie this topic with feminism I have to tell a story.

I'll cut out the fluff. Met a woman at a dinner party, we got talking at the end of the party she asks me if I would consider a "fuck date". I said yes and we arrange a time and place to meet up. We meet up again the following weekend and she mentions there are rules I have to follow.

1) this will happen once and only once:
2) Do not fall in love

I quizzed her on this as I wasn't really thinking beyond that evening.

She has been married for 7 years and her husband is cool with this set up (he is allowed too). The rules insisted on ensure it' remains a fling and not an affair. No limits to the amount of flings in a given time period.

On the way back to my place we stop by a phone booth ( era tell) and she confirms with husband she won't be home that night.....then...then... she hands the phone to me! I almost shit myself ( I pondered on this reaction later) and he's on the other end telling me to have a good time.

I swear I spent many many hours thinking through this event. It realised what an insecure twat I had been in the past in relationships and to a lesser degree these days still am. I don't think I can go to that level of freedom but I know that flirting I'm cool with.

It comes down to trust, levels of insecurity & maturity.

I did end up wanting a second go but I kept that desire to myself and formed a good friendship with her and her husband for a couple of years till they moved out of town.

Yeah, that still sounds awfully restricting to me. The only rules between my girlfriend and I about sex outside the relationship are: 1) Make an active effort to not bring home any diseases and 2) Don't fuck someone I hate in my bed unless you're really mean about it.

We've been together for above three years now, she's been with her husband for ten, he's been with his girlfriend for a couple of years, and many relationships of wildly varying durations branch off from all four. My life is awesome, I hope you think the same of yours.

[Rystefn from phone]

The above was posted by Rystefn, by the way, which is me.

[Steersman]

The women-as-human response is as puzzling as the accusations of misogyny. Whenever I have seen someone use that ploy, they never explain what their definition of a human is and why a specific action or behaviour would contravene that definition or deprive someone of that status. It just seems to be about shock value and shifting goalposts. I was particularly puzzled when ~18 months ago it was being applied to dating & socialisation. Have any of you attempted to date something non-human? Be honest. I wont judge.

You might want to take a look at a recent post over on Lousy Canuck. Seems to me to illustrate a remarkable degree of insensitivity and callousness, not to say inhumanity, that, so the argument goes, seems to be of a piece with at least some definitions of misogyny ....

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

So when the witty 'franc'ophiles over here take the piss out of FtBs.... With wonderful things such as 'Cunt kicking' and 'Rebeccunt Twatson' that is the height of erudite rationality? Just trying to see things through slimy-glasses and check I've worked out how your world view works... in-group good, out-group bad just about sums it up, no?

Oolon, you are a slimy turd. You've never seen gynopodiatry quoted complete and in context have you you moron? As for "rebeccunt", that is a fabrication of the Talking Prune to vilify this place. Entirely her putrid imagination at work - go do a search for "cunt" at B&W - she leaves us for dead.

*cough* it was me coining "Rebeccunt". And I'm not super proud of it. Comment #1463

http://www.scentednectar.com/slimepit-a ... v-1937.htm

Lsuoma, that Python is a beauty. Soon moving to a bigger appartment, so we're going to herp the shit out of it. I've already reserved a couple extra vivariums at my reptile shop.

[TheMan]

Not one I'm at, since the whole "married" thing means hitting on people is right out. Harmless flrting, a-okay, (which along with the "married and safe to flirt with" thing means the local roller derby team is some of the most fun people I know), looking similarly so, actually trying to have sex? mmmm....nope.

Far be it from me to judge, but no way I could ever stay in a marriage where hitting on people was right out. How you people do it is beyond me.

It's easy when neither of you know how to do it or have any interest in it. I'd be a great marriage counsellor, it'd be all like, why do you want to cheat? Wouldn't you prefer to have a nice nap?

And to tie this topic with feminism I have to tell a story.

I'll cut out the fluff. Met a woman at a dinner party, we got talking at the end of the party she asks me if I would consider a "fuck date". I said yes and we arrange a time and place to meet up. We meet up again the following weekend and she mentions there are rules I have to follow.

1) this will happen once and only once:
2) Do not fall in love

I quizzed her on this as I wasn't really thinking beyond that evening.

She has been married for 7 years and her husband is cool with this set up (he is allowed too). The rules insisted on ensure it' remains a fling and not an affair. No limits to the amount of flings in a given time period.

On the way back to my place we stop by a phone booth ( era tell) and she confirms with husband she won't be home that night.....then...then... she hands the phone to me! I almost shit myself ( I pondered on this reaction later) and he's on the other end telling me to have a good time.

I swear I spent many many hours thinking through this event. It realised what an insecure twat I had been in the past in relationships and to a lesser degree these days still am. I don't think I can go to that level of freedom but I know that flirting I'm cool with.

It comes down to trust, levels of insecurity & maturity.

I did end up wanting a second go but I kept that desire to myself and formed a good friendship with her and her husband for a couple of years till they moved out of town.

Yeah, that still sounds awfully restricting to me. The only rules between my girlfriend and I about sex outside the relationship are: 1) Make an active effort to not bring home any diseases and 2) Don't fuck someone I hate in my bed unless you're really mean about it.

We've been together for above three years now, she's been with her husband for ten, he's been with his girlfriend for a couple of years, and many relationships of wildly varying durations branch off from all four. My life is awesome, I hope you think the same of yours.

Yeah my life is awesome. Partner and I are talking about breaking up and it doesn't upset me. It's not a bad relationship. Just the way the follow crumbles.

[TheMan]

Damn auto correct. Follow = cookie

[Keating]

She is a thoroughly detestable creature and her opposite number is no better.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I was just really happy to finally see the back of Rudd's smug, sanctimonious face, that I wanted to believe all the crap policies were his and Gillard would turn it around and be someone I could believe in. I was impressed with her performances prior to her taking the leadership, so it seemed natural to assume she would be better.

Of course, I later found out, from my local Labor Senator, that much of the Internet crap the Labor party picked up was a result of listening to Clive Hamilton. That 2003 report he largely pulled out of his arse at the Australia Institute is what convinced the Labor party to be anti-Internet. That the Greens would then consider him to be a suitable candidate turned me completely off them as well.

What I don't understand is why Gillard is given a free pass by feminists as a wonderful role model, while they love to hate on Thatcher. About the only difference I can see between them is that Gillard calls herself a feminist and occasionally makes approving noises, while Thatcher never did.

...Paul Keating...

http://www.sydneytheatre.net/images/kea ... o-2007.jpg

[Mykeru]

Apologies if this is re-posted, but I've just watched this vid.
It's apparently a dialogue between an educated woman and a belligerent teen. Ann Althouse isn't buying Rebecca's shit at all.
(TL;DW) Personal highlights include:
[*]A description of Elevator Guy (which subsequently triggers her prosopagnosia.)
[*]A toe-curling reading of 'Dear Muslima' which can't end soon enough for Bex.
[*]Bex describing herself as an 'atheist communicator'
[*]Her being told that if she was alert, she could have simply walked out of the elevator.
[*]A claim that if a woman attends a meeting with thirty guys, she will be hit on thirty times and have to reject thirty guys.
[*]Advising men to "...Put fort the effort to learn how to behave like human beings"
[*] 'I can't tell you how many men have touched me inappropriately at these conferences."
[*]Ann suggests that these are perhaps socially awkward men and that Bex should we have some sympathy towards them.
Rebecca (laughing) - No.
[*]Ann accuses Rebecca of not being critical towards the 'religion of feminism'.

Skip first 20mins
[youtube]LHbyalQxcGI[/youtube]

That was an interesting interview. Interesting to see their faces on the split screen; you're right that one comes across like the adult and the other like a teenager - less well grounded, more petulant, etc.

The content was interesting, too, with Althouse repeatedly proposing completely reasonable intepretations, stances, questions, etc that contrasted so markedly with Rebecca's. That contrast really highlighted how much Rebecca seems to be viewing male-female interactions through her own lens, sexualizing everything then assigning blame to men for that.

I'm not going to go back right now & find it, but there was one exchange where Rebecca got kind of agitated about how "they" (men") need to realize women are people (or human, I can't remember how she said it); as she kept emphasizing "women are people", it really came across in that stretch as her discounting "men are people." YMMV in terms of what you hear in that stretch.

Somebody please tell me what conferences are those in which 30 out of 30 men hit on a single woman...

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous (and came across as self-aggrandizing).

[*] Rebecca Watson claiming she never feels vulnerable and, in fact it's "an alien emotion" to her.

Really, how do you interpret that as A. Someone covering up their own insecurities with bluster or B. Being honest and, in fact, there are emotional states common to normal people that is "an alien emotion"?

I mean, assuming what she says is true, that attending a conference full of people, some who are strangers, that she has to run like a dick obstacle course, yet she has no idea what vulnerability feels like?

When you put it all together, her inability to empathize, treating other people, even classes of people as means to an end, her personal vindictiveness (Stef McGraff, Elevatorgate. Sacha) and callousness (The 'How to Ruin Christmas' assistant abuse story), limited affect, immediately resorting to anger when her default condescension is ineffective, intellectual superficiality -- she interrupts to have a pedantic moment explaining homeopathy, but falters because she really doesn't know her material, and lauds being science-y but really judges on someone's rhetorical "fire"and through all that they ability to bullshit and say outrageously ideological things with utter shameless conviction, is, well...interesting.

She's missing some standard equipment between her ears.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Addendum: oh, ok, Mykeru is here.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Well, if feeling vulnerable is an alien emotion to her, then we can probably deduce that she feels invulnerable.

So, why being creeped out by EG? Isn't creepiness induced by a sense of vulnerability?

Oh, I don't know. Just making conversation while checking the ERV archives...

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Oh shit! Rereading the whole Aratina Cage "pop tart" debacle in the "Dawkins coup de grace in Vegas" thread. 'twas the good ol' days.

[Mykeru]

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Addendum: oh, ok, Mykeru is here.

Some people sleep, crack-head.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Addendum: oh, ok, Mykeru is here.

Some people sleep, crack-head.

Oh, yeah, time zones and stuff. I've never believed that crap, it should be French time everywhere.

:whistle:

[KiwiInOz]

Yeah, it has been a bit of a slow day in t'Pit. People must be living lives or something.

[Mykeru]

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Addendum: oh, ok, Mykeru is here.

Some people sleep, crack-head.

Oh, yeah, time zones and stuff. I've never believed that crap, it should be French time everywhere.

:whistle:

That's "Freedom Time". We're still pissed at you guys blowing off the glorious liberation of Iraq. Yellow Cake! Yellow Cake! You can make up for it by getting on Merkin time. All four time zones plus Hawaii.

Yeah, it has been a bit of a slow day in t'Pit. People must be living lives or something.

And that's why Freethought Blogs and Atheism Plus will triumph. They have no such obstacle to activism. Save for a wank break that stains their peeners Cheetos orange, they are 24/7.

[soldierwhy]

PZed's got a post up in response to Concordance's YouTube video. In the comments a poster calling himself 'reliwhat' raises some questions about PZed's blocking of comments on his YouTube videos. He comes out with this fairly innocent post:

reliwhat
17 October 2012 at 10:19 pm

@ A.R

1. I’ve read that post before, and i disagree with some of the statements he said.

2. It’s not a slippery slope argument. It’s more of a conviction argument. Having seen what a lack of free speech can cause, i would prefer going in the direction of more free speech than less. I consider free speech to be important, therefor, i put it higher in my priority list than, to stay relevant to pz’s post, not being annoyed. To make sure i’m clear, i don’t think that blocking comments on a youtube channel will lead to communist russia, i just feel that, if you do believe in free speech, you should be ready to make sacrifices for it.

Not really much to argue about there, right?

User Ing:Intellectual Terrorist posts this gem:

Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine"
17 October 2012 at 10:28 pm

i just feel that, if you do believe in free speech, you should be ready to make sacrifices for it.

How do you respond to the accusations that you raped and killed a 9 year old girl in 1991?

What a thoroughly contemptible individual.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine"
17 October 2012 at 10:28 pm

i just feel that, if you do believe in free speech, you should be ready to make sacrifices for it.

How do you respond to the accusations that you raped and killed a 9 year old girl in 1991?

By sueing the fuck out of you for libel and getting each and every last cent you ever had, have, or will have. I don't know if Glenn Beck took that road, and I'm too lazy to google it...

[Tony Parsehole]

From PZ's direct response to C0nc0rdance: "You tube is not neutral ground. It is a venue that favors noisy morons"

Whereas Pharyngula is the hub of rational discourse and discussion and being a noisy moron is never encouraged!? What the fuck!?
PZ doesn't consider being a noisy moron a bad thing as long asthey are on his side of the shouting match.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine"
17 October 2012 at 10:28 pm

i just feel that, if you do believe in free speech, you should be ready to make sacrifices for it.

How do you respond to the accusations that you raped and killed a 9 year old girl in 1991?

By sueing the fuck out of you for libel and getting each and every last cent you ever had, have, or will have. I don't know if Glenn Beck took that road, and I'm too lazy to google it...

Ok, seems he just acted to have the domain taken down and was refused because it was considered a political commentary. Thankfuly enough, I'm too small a fish to have "political commentary" launched at me, yet my small fame would probably get Ing's wallet empty.

Note: I loath the shit out of G. Beck, it was just that this story popped in my mind when I read the comment.

[Dilurk]

Yeah, it has been a bit of a slow day in t'Pit. People must be living lives or something.

Or doing a hobby.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Yeah, it has been a bit of a slow day in t'Pit. People must be living lives or something.

Or doing a hobby.

Or doing a hobo.



Sorry, couldn't resist.

[Sheogorath]

From PZ's direct response to C0nc0rdance: "You tube is not neutral ground. It is a venue that favors noisy morons"

Whereas Pharyngula is the hub of rational discourse and discussion and being a noisy moron is never encouraged!? What the fuck!?
PZ doesn't consider being a noisy moron a bad thing as long asthey are on his side of the shouting match.

Maybe, maybe not. A tangle of angry hissing vipers is not the same as a ??? of noisy morons

That is how I see his lot: vicious and venomous. They don't seem stupid so much as having intelligence and honesty lower taking lower priority than anger and self righteousness.

Oh, and ableism anyone.

[Mykeru]

From PZ's direct response to C0nc0rdance: "You tube is not neutral ground. It is a venue that favors noisy morons"

Whereas Pharyngula is the hub of rational discourse and discussion and being a noisy moron is never encouraged!? What the fuck!?
PZ doesn't consider being a noisy moron a bad thing as long asthey are on his side of the shouting match.

OK, Peez. Nice start there. Now next step: What does that tell you about Rebecca Watson's Page of Hate and claims that her YouTube videos resulted in rape and death threats from "atheist men".

Come on...it's right in front of you.

[Sheogorath]

Damn. I really hate the lack of editing ability here,

:icon-redface:

[Mykeru]

Damn. I really hate baby otters ,

:moon:

Editing seems to work fine for me.

[welch]

Forum, what do you think of this disgraceful exchange?

I think you need to grow a thicker skin if you plan to hang out here...

Expecting integrity from people who think they're better skeptics than A+theists isn't the same thing as being "thin-skinned".

Expecting other people on an Internet forum to "prove" you right, or even care is pretty much in line with A+ thought. Tuned the whole thing out quickly with a sherlockian "boring!"

[Scented Nectar]

The women-as-human response is as puzzling as the accusations of misogyny. Whenever I have seen someone use that ploy, they never explain what their definition of a human is and why a specific action or behaviour would contravene that definition or deprive someone of that status. It just seems to be about shock value and shifting goalposts. I was particularly puzzled when ~18 months ago it was being applied to dating & socialisation. Have any of you attempted to date something non-human? Be honest. I wont judge.

Well, I can't say I'm going steady with it, but we do date. I cheat on it quite often. But no matter what, I never forget to send my vibrator a Valentine's card once a year.
:lol:

[real horrorshow]

So, I had to do some Google image searches for my field study about the females swarmed by men that go to this type of conventions and used the word: "Skepchicks". This image came up:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PEQushm7TP8/S ... pchick.jpg

:lol:

The shirt was entirely accurate... I can personally verify that the man in the picture did not go back to his home drunk that night.

Well, that's a whole new spin on 'doing the nasty'.

[curious lurker]

[*]Ann suggests that these are perhaps socially awkward men and that Bex should we have some sympathy towards them.
Rebecca (laughing) - No.

I find this one interesting.

"Popular" people, ie, those who excel or are above average in social situations, often have a complete ignorance of what life is like for those who lack social skills. The reaction ranges from rather benign accusations of "being boring" or "a bit quiet", to outright bullying and hatred. Some "popular" types have an incredible amount of resentment and hate for those who (for whatever reason) don't talk that much. I sense that Queen Bee is one of these "popular" types, who views anyone lacking in social skills as a "bit weird", or "ignorant". In fact, you could argue that the failure to recognise what a privilege social skills are, that people like Queen Bee need to check their privilege on such matters.

Further, any claim like the one Twatson made regarding 30 out of 30 men would hit on a woman, is complete and total bullshit. This could only happen if ALL the men were from the same "popular" type as her. "Hitting on" people is quite high for people who are similar (in personality) to Rebecca Watson - hence her reputation of hitting on men at conferences. She has the wrong end of the stick. The ratio of men hitting on a woman would drop dramatically if they consisted of the shy, socially-awkward types Queen Bee seems so aghast of.

I find that Rebecca laughs at the idea of empathy a lot. It helps in mistreating people. Assistants and such.

She may have a peculiar wiring of the brain that makes her understanding what "awkward" feels like, as well as sympathy, to be impossible for her.

Just sayin'

Also, apparently she tries to get people banned for talking to her, and ignoring her.

Not surprising PeeZus is drawn to her. If you take a quick look at his recent history, this type of near-sociopathic personality type seems to attract him strongly. Check out his involvement with Naomi Dunford, who figured prominently in his Navarro imbroglio of about a year ago.

Interestingly, Dunford comes across as being not only much the same personality type as Watson, but there's something of a physical resemblance--strong enough to evoke a certain ''Hmmnn'' as to what physical 'type' seems to turn PeeZus on.

I feel like I need to go wash my brain after typing that last sentence.

[curious lurker]

There will be no dissing of our feline overlords here

If you don't like cats, fuck off t'internet!

LOl. Thanks. I didn't want to be the bad person who had to say that.

[ray cumfart]

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Addendum: oh, ok, Mykeru is here.

i think we are all in total shock after watching the greta christina anal pron that was posted yesterday. ive been washing my eyes with clorox while praying to jeebus to help me get through it.

so give us a few days we will hopefully snap out of our mental coma as the memory of that most horrendous sight fades from memory.

[Spence]

Gotta say, on this one, MKG is pretty much spot on as usual. When someone starts waving around psychometric tests as "evidence", my bullshit meter asplodes in an array of beautiful colours.

Then there was also direct neurophysiological evidence.

Oh, bless your heart. (JCW: thanx for the pro-tip)

Anyway, describe in as much detail as possible what you know about psychometry—it can't imagine it will take too long.

You go ahead and imagine all you want, gooby. After all, your overactive imagination beats real evidence any day of the week, as you have already adeptly shown.

And FYI: I don't think I'll be answering your PM anytime soon.

[Lsuoma]

Forum, what do you think of this disgraceful exchange?

I think you need to grow a thicker skin if you plan to hang out here...

Expecting integrity from people who think they're better skeptics than A+theists isn't the same thing as being "thin-skinned".

I meant also, stop appealing to the gallery. (Hint: you don' appeal).

[soldierwhy]

You go ahead and imagine all you want, gooby. After all, your overactive imagination beats real evidence any day of the week, as you have already adeptly shown.

That's a bit harsh Spence, a possible link between creativity and mental illness is a valid area for research.

Creativity and Mental Illness - Google Scholar

I'm intrigued as to what it was that Gooby said that you have taken exception to?

[acathode]

PZed's got a post up in response to Concordance's YouTube video.

PZ's argument more or less comes down to "The quality of the youtube comments suck, they are mob of idiots!", which I for some reason read as "They all disagree with me! I don't like that!"...

I think this is the gem of PZ's post though:

I noticed a number of different phenomena. One was that very few of the commenters actually paid any attention to my videos; instead, they’d been dispatched there by thunderf00t or other critics, where they simply parroted their masters.

Paranoid much? Thunderf00t and other critics are sending their drones out to crash any PZ's videos? Serioulsy? On what planet does this guy live? Is it really that hard for him to grasp that by now he's managed to piss of a large portion of the active "internet-atheists", and that he is actually quite disliked by many now?
There's no masters sending out their drones, there's no need to! Why would there be, when PZ and his friends have flung shit at, attacked, accused and in general been royal asshats towards pretty much every damn prolific atheists I can think of? Dawkins, Harris, Krauss, Hitchens (kinda), Jillette, Hirsi Ali, Maher, tf00t, the whole rationalia forum, the whole RatSkep forum, even Dillahunty, just to name a few, has gotten a fair share of sewage flung at them, very often for with little cause save for PZ wanting to stir up some more internet drama to feed his hit-counter/ad-revenue and ego.
It should come as no fucking surprise when this sort of behavior actually causes people to notice you, and to notice that you're a shallow drama-whore who's only reportuare consists of shouting either MISOGYNY or RACISM at the top of your lungs with little to no basis for the accusation....
/rant off

Is today a special holyday or something? I can see tumbleweed rolling across the forum.

C'mon people!

Well, I've been gone, having fun getting one of these showed down my throat...

[soldierwhy]

There's no masters sending out their drones, there's no need to!

Except when PZed 'invites' his followers to crash a poll you mean?

I don't often get to deploy the term 'Cognitive Dissonance', but it describes PZed's behaviour perfectly.

[soldierwhy]

Well, I've been gone, having fun getting one of these showed down my throat...

I'm going in for one of those next month..not down the throat though :o

[Spence]

You go ahead and imagine all you want, gooby. After all, your overactive imagination beats real evidence any day of the week, as you have already adeptly shown.

That's a bit harsh Spence, a possible link between creativity and mental illness is a valid area for research.

Creativity and Mental Illness - Google Scholar

I'm intrigued as to what it was that Gooby said that you have taken exception to?

Hmm, what could I have taken exception to? Oh yes, I remember now - in fact you must have deleted these very words when you replied to my post, since the quote was within that post:

Anyway, describe in as much detail as possible what you know about psychometry—it can't imagine it will take too long.

Also, I did not say a link between creativity and mental illness was not a valid area of research. Studying a link between autism and the MMR vaccine is a "valid area of research", that doesn't justify the pseudoscience that Andrew Wakefield produced.

[soldierwhy]

Hmm, what could I have taken exception to? Oh yes, I remember now - in fact you must have deleted these very words when you replied to my post, since the quote was within that post:

Anyway, describe in as much detail as possible what you know about psychometry—it can't imagine it will take too long.

Apologies, was not my intent to appear to be 'quote-mining'. Seems like that comment from Gooby was merely a response to your dismissal of psychometric testing. Which, as far as I am aware, are valid psychological research tools.

Psychometric Testing - Google Scholar

Also, I did not say a link between creativity and mental illness was not a valid area of research. Studying a link between autism and the MMR vaccine is a "valid area of research", that doesn't justify the pseudoscience that Andrew Wakefield produced.

Are you suggesting that any proposed link between creativity and mental illness is pseudo-science? Or is it just psychometrics you have a problem with?

[disumbrationist]

Ing:Intellectual Terrorist "Starting Tonight, People will Whine"
17 October 2012 at 10:28 pm

How do you respond to the accusations that you raped and killed a 9 year old girl in 1991?

"What's it with you and rape? No one's raping anyone..."
[youtube]PWjiZY8snh8[/youtube]

[real horrorshow]

Well, I've been gone, having fun getting one of these showed down my throat...

I'm going in for one of those next month..not down the throat though :o

Lucky for acathode he got to go first then!

[welch]

Gotta say, on this one, MKG is pretty much spot on as usual. When someone starts waving around psychometric tests as "evidence", my bullshit meter asplodes in an array of beautiful colours.

Then there was also direct neurophysiological evidence.

Oh, bless your heart. (JCW: thanx for the pro-tip)

Anyway, describe in as much detail as possible what you know about psychometry—it can't imagine it will take too long.

You go ahead and imagine all you want, gooby. After all, your overactive imagination beats real evidence any day of the week, as you have already adeptly shown.

And FYI: I don't think I'll be answering your PM anytime soon.

I really love "bless your heart", because it's really an awesome insult. It is absolutely polite, and to the ignorant, sounds like just such a nice thing to say. To those in the know, it's the polite, genteel southern way of saying "You really are just the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Here, have a cookie and run along, the grownups are talking."

whenever my minion does something especially dumb, I let off with that. She used to think I was being nice until she told her mom, and once her mom stopped laughing, she explained what that really mean. Now when I say it, minion hits me with a shoe. Thankfully, she's into sandals and not hooker pumps.

Not that I stopped saying it, I just learned to be out of arms' reach when I do say it. Minion is awesome.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Well, I've been gone, having fun getting one of these showed down my throat...

I'm going in for one of those next month..not down the throat though :o

Lucky for acathode he got to go first then!

What's with the humour around here lately? I'll have to order a few ewtra keyboards and screen-protectors.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

extra*

[ReneeHendricks]

I'm definitely not a Greta Christina fan but the last few weeks have been the shits for her: http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/ ... -for-help/

Just thought I'd put this out there.

[Mykeru]

There's no masters sending out their drones, there's no need to!

Except when PZed 'invites' his followers to crash a poll you mean?

I don't often get to deploy the term 'Cognitive Dissonance', but it describes PZed's behaviour perfectly.

Or "projection".

When Peez, 'Becca accuse people of certain behaviors there's a parenthetical "because that's what I would do" and "I'm pissed I didn't do it first" in there.

i think we are all in total shock after watching the greta christina anal pron --

[youtube]DgE3edYsJIk[/youtube]

[ReneeHendricks]

Is Jason Thibeault vying for FfTB sympathy? http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck ... -teh-lulz/

...though I’ve certainly seen a lot of self-righteousness amongst the folks who witch-hunt and swarm FtBloggers just for being FtBloggers...

Neat. Use the death of another person to point out how *hard* you have it as an FfTBlogger. Jackass.

[Notung]

I'm definitely not a Greta Christina fan but the last few weeks have been the shits for her: http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/ ... -for-help/

Just thought I'd put this out there.

Christ, that's bad news. I hope the surgery goes well - my thoughts are with her.

[ERV]

I'm definitely not a Greta Christina fan but the last few weeks have been the shits for her: http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/ ... -for-help/

Just thought I'd put this out there.

1-- Wow. Making decisions based off of 'what I want now, NOW' rather than responsibly planning for what you want, and then acting all surprised when shit goes wrong? Thats their personality in a nut-shell.

2-- Hey remember that time my partner, who doesnt have insurance, almost died? We came home with a $695,000 hospital bill? Know how my partner has physical jobs and was unable to work in any capacity for four months, and we were living off my graduate student stipend? Remember when I had a fucking pledge drive for that? Oh wait, we didnt do that. We negotiated with the hospital (who would rather get something than bankruptcy-->nothing) and are paying it off with our own goddamn money. And we lived through the emergency-limited-income time because Im not a fucking child so I know how to save money for fucking emergencies?

3-- Seeing #2, remember how GRETA pulled a bitch diva ass move and wanted me banned from FreeOK, thus interfering with *MY* income from speaking gigs? Remember how moving the Slime Pit from ERV to here has cost me a *lot* of money from lost page views, that I could have really fucking used?

Fuck her. Shit happens.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I'm definitely not a Greta Christina fan but the last few weeks have been the shits for her: http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/ ... -for-help/

Just thought I'd put this out there.

Oh fuck! It's really piling up on her. I will donate.

[ReneeHendricks]

I'm definitely not a Greta Christina fan but the last few weeks have been the shits for her: http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/ ... -for-help/

Just thought I'd put this out there.

1-- Wow. Making decisions based off of 'what I want now, NOW' rather than responsibly planning for what you want, and then acting all surprised when shit goes wrong? Thats their personality in a nut-shell.

2-- Hey remember that time my partner, who doesnt have insurance, almost died? We came home with a $695,000 hospital bill? Know how my partner has physical jobs and was unable to work in any capacity for four months, and we were living off my graduate student stipend? Remember when I had a fucking pledge drive for that? Oh wait, we didnt do that. We negotiated with the hospital (who would rather get something than bankruptcy-->nothing) and are paying it off with our own goddamn money. And we lived through the emergency-limited-income time because Im not a fucking child so I know how to save money for fucking emergencies?

3-- Seeing #2, remember how GRETA pulled a bitch diva ass move and wanted me banned from FreeOK, thus interfering with *MY* income from speaking gigs? Remember how moving the Slime Pit from ERV to here has cost me a *lot* of money from lost page views, that I could have really fucking used?

Fuck her. Shit happens.

I completely understand your points. Being a self-employed person with no insurance at the moment, 3 ER trips are costing us a shit ton around here. And I'm not saying she's a lovely person deserving of mountains of donations to help her get through this. I guess it's the slightly empathetic part of me kicking in as my oldest kiddo's grandmother just died last night and the realities of life suck ass on occasion.

BTW, I didn't know about point #3. Rather shitty of her :(

[Reap]

Fuck her. Shit happens.

That is a valid point....shit does happen.

[soldierwhy]

Or "projection".

Agreed, text-book 'Splitting' also.