100 posts into the Dillahunty thread, and they still are trying to excuse themselves and make Dillahunty out to be the bad guy. He has to step in and try to explain the fucking obvious to them yet again.
http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 331#p22331
Some excerpts (emphasis mine):
I did not hide my identity looking for a 'gotcha' moment. My intent was to show the detractors (people outside of the forum who claim that reasonable objections are not accepted here) that their criticisms of this forum were incorrect. My intent was to show them exactly how to present a fair, reasonable objection by dealing with the facts and offering suggestions on how to handle these issues in the future. Everything in the original post was absolutely sincere and honest (I do have reservations about that particular ban).
My intent was to prove those people wrong. They're not wrong. They're not entirely right, either. Their complaints are often exaggerated, just as people's perceptions of Curious were.
What's annoying is that instead of acknowledging the problem (some have, and some are fixing these problems), some folks are making excuses, rationalizing, trying to paint me as the attacker they wrongly presumed that I was.
Even now,
after the facts have been expressed several times, you've incorrectly claim that I admit to having hid my identity in order to push for a 'gotcha' moment. That's not what happened. You've got it exactly backward.[/quote]
Ah, Matt, now that you've been made a target yourself, you can glimpse what so many of the Baboons' victims have gone through for years now. You're finally seeing the M.O. of these people. You are now seeing the desperate and endless twisting these people will go through in order to always be right, never be wrong, and always paint their target as the transgressor. They exaggerate, they lie, they smear and they defame. You're one of their fucking heroes or something, so you are only getting the barest whiff of the lengths these assholes that you have cast your lot with will go to in order to cast themselves in a holy light.
Can you see this at all Matt? Can you finally start to fucking understand why so many people (and not just the Slimepit) are so utterly contemptuous of these morons?
Argumentum ad populum fallacy, yeah yeah I know, acknowledged in advance, but when so many people are so disgusted and dismayed by the FTB/AtheismPlus/Skepchick people, don't you think it's time to put on your skeptic's hat and give a deep ponder as to why? After all, if a not-insignificant portion of the atheist/skeptic communities are calling you a raging asshole, could it be, just maybe, that you actually are a raging asshole?
Come on, man, look at what this is for what it really is: apologetics. That thread, (
and the whole AtheismPlus forum,
and most of Freethoughtblogs,
and Skepchick) you're involved in might as well be full of Christian fundies trying to excuse their own awful behavior by saying that they're "saved" and it's all your fault because you "hate God". You've been guilty of the same "right at all costs" style of argumentation as well. Ever debate fundies online? Sure you have. That's why this surely seems so familiar to you.
Wake up, Dill-man, before it's too late. Be a fan of A+ and FTB, whatever. But at least show you've still got some skeptic stones and call this bullshit out for what it is. Quit pussyfooting around, because right now you look awful fucking weak.