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As for Zeus, into all that bestiality.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.MarcusAu wrote: ↑F Scott Fitzgerald wrote: “Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me.
Sargon was earning over £150K (or perhaps $'s) a year - when totaling everything up.
Milo would have had to have been at a similar level - before his recent financial issues came to light. ($4 mill in dept according to some reports).
Both have enjoyed the fruits of their benefactors labours for sometime now. I'm not going to take delight in their misfortune - but I will say that their entire lifestyles were predicated on the kindness of strangers and corporations. I've not donated anything to them - and will not be working against them either - but I put both of them in the 'charity' category - and any disposable income I have in that department will be prioritised to more worthy causes first. (After all - It is the season).
I wish them no ill will - but with the amounts they have been earning - I think I can afford to look after my own life first before shedding any tears for their cause.
When things happen to rich people it somehow doesn't seem so bad. Actually, if things happens to any other people (no matter what their income level) it's never quite as big of a deal.
Mo isn’t family.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
This is starting to resemble the Mark of the Beast stuff that American fundies feared for decades.jugheadnaut wrote: ↑Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.
Tariq Ramadan, a slimy and sleazy Salafi cunt masquerading as a public intellectual, has been charged with the rape of two women, and is in jail awaiting trial.jugheadnaut wrote: ↑When a Muslim celebrity is accused of sexual harassment, the hashtag should be #MoToo.
Religion is deeply messed up. :bjarte:KiwiInOz wrote: ↑As for Zeus, into all that bestiality.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
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If a member of my family abused of a teenage girl I wouldn't defend them just because they're family. The idea that family should trump moral standards is the prelude to tribalism. It's NOT OK when "we" do it.
Because God is a made up pedo and Mo was a real one.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.
Or maybe the motivation is to point out how religious thinking gets people to accept moral lapses with ease, even if they're just hypothetical.
Except it isn't true in Christianity. The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents. It isn't rape. That is what the feast of the Annunciation is about.
I suppose that depends on what you mean by "right wing". The particular thing about the current iteration of left wing is that the "personal is political", which means that everything must have politics injected into it. The companies that don't get involved thus are either neutral or right wing. The right wing companies only really show themselves when governments try to force them to do things they don't believe in. Cake baking, birth control, even suggesting there is something to discuss when it comes to gay marriage.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:21 pmWhich again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Beats me why anyone thinks Gamergaters won the battle. Also beats me why anyone still believes the media giving a flying wotsit about truth.The festival’s keynote speaker, Anita Sarkeesian, was one of the targets of an international social media campaign in 2014 that was launched to scare women off social media and away from game development studios. #Gamergate supporters attacked those who advocated for fairer representation of women in the industry, with some even receiving death threats.
God isn't playing the male role in the story. I suppose one might think atheist activism justifies the pretense, but it does look petty and stupid.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.
There's no better illustration of the vapidity of our hip young lefties than the expression they so gleefully love to deploy: 'Private entities don't owe you a platform.'Ape+lust wrote: ↑This is starting to resemble the Mark of the Beast stuff that American fundies feared for decades.jugheadnaut wrote: ↑Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.
And in a reversal that seem to be characteristic of our time, it's the Left asserting the right of private companies to do as they like, and the Right is talking about trust-busting Facebook, Google, Paypal, et al :shock:
I was thinking more about the age of Mary, which is said to be underage. This matters because in some cases, like in the case of the defenders of Roy Moore, Mary's young age and her divine pregnancy/marriage to Joseph is used to justify statutory rape.Keating wrote: ↑Except it isn't true in Christianity. The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents. It isn't rape. That is what the feast of the Annunciation is about.
While this was probably common in those times, it CAN be used to justify behavior we now find unacceptable. Which is the same thing that happens with Aisha's marriage to Mohammed.An Alabama state official on Thursday dismissed a Washington Post report alleging that GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore had initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl decades ago, saying there was an age gap between the biblical Joseph and Mary. The Post also alleged that Moore had pursued three others when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s.
“Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus,” Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler told The Washington Examiner. “There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”
“Bringing Joseph and Mary into a modern-day molestation accusation, where a 32-year-old prosecutor is accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl, is simultaneously ridiculous and blasphemous,” said Ed Stetzer, a pastor and church consultant who holds the Billy Graham Chair of Church, Mission and Evangelism at Wheaton College. “Even those who followed ancient marriage customs, which we would not follow today, knew the difference between molesting and marriage.”
It seems that the main difference between most Christians, even a lot of religious leaders, and a large number of muslims, is the acceptance that society marches on, at least on certain aspects. There are SOME muslim leaders who are genuinely ready to accept this, but they're marginalized, while the strict traditionalists are the ones in charge and with economic, political and social power.“Women were chattel back then, they were traded — of course they married men who were much older and had multiple wives,” said the Rev. Amy Butler, senior minister of the Riverside Church, a historical and prominent interdenominational church in New York City. “It’s completely ludicrous to equate the sex assault of a minor with an ancient culture. It’s ludicrous . . . It makes me want to rip the church back from these people.”
The taxpayer isn't funding Sargon. Are you suggesting that people be content that the public purse is used to create political activists of one particular stripe? If that isn't an abuse of tax money, I don't know what is.DrokkIt wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:00 amAnyone remember when Sargon tried to get social justice courses shutdown via petition?
I'm sure if he'd been successful, there would have been people with their income cut off. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, can't really feel that much sympathy for people who themselves have attempted the same kind of tactics.
I think it's the other way around.
Why? As a lesson in morality, it thoroughly sucks. It depicts a completely unethical act, one of many that completely undermine the pretense that the bible is an ethical book.Fegg wrote: ↑God isn't playing the male role in the story. I suppose one might think atheist activism justifies the pretense, but it does look petty and stupid.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.
One is on firm ground disbelieving in miracles. One is rather silly to turn a miracle story into something else.
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Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:21 pmWhich again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:21 pmWhich again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:21 pmWhich again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
I would say it correlates to liberalism rather than left-leaning politics. If I recall correctly, the strongest political viewpoint correlate to Openness is libertarianism. I doubt very much that it correlates with the sort of regressive leftism we're seeing on display.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.
Academia in general leans more liberal with some exceptions. I think that this happens because conservatives tend to be less interested in most academic subjects. Openness to experience seems a big factor in general to be both an academic and to be liberal or at least not a conservative. Of course this is a trend, not a black and white distinction, and there are different degrees of conservative and liberal positions, but conservative tend to value tradition and religion over experimentation and questioning assumptions.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:21 am
Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?
Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.
Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.
Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.
Academia in general leans more liberal with some exceptions. I think that this happens because conservatives tend to be less interested in most academic subjects. Openness to experience seems a big factor in general to be both an academic and to be liberal or at least not a conservative. Of course this is a trend, not a black and white distinction, and there are different degrees of conservative and liberal positions, but conservative tend to value tradition and religion over experimentation and questioning assumptions.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:21 am
Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?
Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.
Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.
Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.
The deal is highly sensitive since it would mean Swiss rules change automatically in line with EU law and give the European Court of Justice a role in resolving conflicts
If it's any consolation - you've probably done as much as anyone here to support his cause.DrokkIt wrote: ↑ Anyone remember when Sargon tried to get social justice courses shutdown via petition?
I'm sure if he'd been successful, there would have been people with their income cut off. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, can't really feel that much sympathy for people who themselves have attempted the same kind of tactics.
In the past, Switzerland understood that it could benefit from exploiting the differences between it and other nations. I rather hope the Swiss respond to this with a large raspberry and tell the EU to keep its nose out of Swiss business. Time for numbered accounts to be reinstated!shoutinghorse wrote: ↑ Even Hitler respected Switzerland's neutrality better than the EU.
The deal is highly sensitive since it would mean Swiss rules change automatically in line with EU law and give the European Court of Justice a role in resolving conflicts
I have never worried much about sharpening as a fine art. Instead resorting to off the shelf hand sharpeners (Henckels, Kitchen Aid, and a Samurai Shark for everything else) plus an electric Chef's Choice Hybrid 200-3 (for a knife that would not hold an edge after three days of slicing meat).screwtape wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:09 pmIn other news, and for the knife owners, I have been experimenting with some natural stones on my razors. It's not excessively expensive to obtain a Belgian Blue (~4k), a Coticule (~8K) and a Thuringian (~12k) stone. I've several of them, including one Thuringian branded as an Escher, which is now unobtainable as the quarry is now part of a protected national park and no further stone can be quarried.
For the uninitiated, I'll point out that hones and stones can sharpen three ways:
1. The included grit size is uniform and deliberately placed there in a substrate that acts as a matrix that will gradually abrade. These are man-made ceramic hones, usually waterstones.
2. The grit size is irrelevant, as the substrate is so hard that only the scratch pattern on the surface matters, and placing that there is up to you and some diamond lapping plates. This applies to some Spyderco man-made ceramic hones, and also to Arkansas natural stones. These are not waterstones as they are impermeable.
3. The substrate is soft, the abrasive particles are easily released, and if a slurry is raised on the surface of the stone, the effective grit size will depend on the density of abrasive particles in the slurry. Such a stone will behave as a coarse, medium, fine or ultrafine hone as the slurry is diluted.
So I've been exploiting the third method with the Belgian Blue, Coticule and Escher, followed by the first kind of honing with even finer waterstones from Suehiro Gokumyo (20K) and Shapton (30k) on a variety of straight razors. O1 tool steel, handmade high-carbon damascus, industrial Swedish stainless damascus, old Sheffield silver steel, 'cast' steel and some Swedish Eskilstuna carbon. I have red, green and black pastes on paddle strops for making those edges even finer, and the shaves with my homemade soap are delightful. I wish my beard grew faster so I could hone and shave more. All of this is applicable to Opinels and Laguioles, although I don't see a need for anything beyond 4k for a knife.
That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.MarcusAu wrote: ↑It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.
At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.
But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...
Why do you create such dichotomies? Everything changes. Over time. The argument has always been against rapid and enforced change per ideological directive.
Honestly, MHO is that the means is not as important as the method. Doc has a connisouer's taste and a fine appreciation of the art. But it really depends how much you are in to the meditative part of sharpening. Although I have a fair number of stones, whetstone, wet-stones and diamond plates, I often just use wet/dry sandpaper over a piece of glass. Now that my dominant arm is messed up, for any major task I usually use a Ken Onion WorkSharp. I am usually against electric gadgets, but I needed something that did a variety of angles and could be used mostly with my non-dominant hand. Do make certain to get a strop, as it will keep the blade sharper and makes it easy to touch up the edge. A good strop is a must-have investment.AndrewV69 wrote: ↑I have never worried much about sharpening as a fine art. Instead resorting to off the shelf hand sharpeners (Henckels, Kitchen Aid, and a Samurai Shark for everything else) plus an electric Chef's Choice Hybrid 200-3 (for a knife that would not hold an edge after three days of slicing meat).screwtape wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:09 pmIn other news, and for the knife owners, I have been experimenting with some natural stones on my razors. It's not excessively expensive to obtain a Belgian Blue (~4k), a Coticule (~8K) and a Thuringian (~12k) stone. I've several of them, including one Thuringian branded as an Escher, which is now unobtainable as the quarry is now part of a protected national park and no further stone can be quarried.
For the uninitiated, I'll point out that hones and stones can sharpen three ways:
1. The included grit size is uniform and deliberately placed there in a substrate that acts as a matrix that will gradually abrade. These are man-made ceramic hones, usually waterstones.
2. The grit size is irrelevant, as the substrate is so hard that only the scratch pattern on the surface matters, and placing that there is up to you and some diamond lapping plates. This applies to some Spyderco man-made ceramic hones, and also to Arkansas natural stones. These are not waterstones as they are impermeable.
3. The substrate is soft, the abrasive particles are easily released, and if a slurry is raised on the surface of the stone, the effective grit size will depend on the density of abrasive particles in the slurry. Such a stone will behave as a coarse, medium, fine or ultrafine hone as the slurry is diluted.
So I've been exploiting the third method with the Belgian Blue, Coticule and Escher, followed by the first kind of honing with even finer waterstones from Suehiro Gokumyo (20K) and Shapton (30k) on a variety of straight razors. O1 tool steel, handmade high-carbon damascus, industrial Swedish stainless damascus, old Sheffield silver steel, 'cast' steel and some Swedish Eskilstuna carbon. I have red, green and black pastes on paddle strops for making those edges even finer, and the shaves with my homemade soap are delightful. I wish my beard grew faster so I could hone and shave more. All of this is applicable to Opinels and Laguioles, although I don't see a need for anything beyond 4k for a knife.
If you think that is bad I know someone who uses a metal file.
But, if I was to take a stab at it, would this then, a NATURAL PIERRE DES PYRÉNÉES / BELGIAN BLUE COMBI STONE 1200 / 4K - 10K be a good place to start?
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But really all you have done is highlight a lack of awareness between metaphysical conception and actual rape.
How would you suggest God should seek booty? He’s pretty unapproachable despite all those Brides of Christ.KiwiInOz wrote: ↑That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.MarcusAu wrote: ↑It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.
At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.
But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...
Zeus seduces; Yahweh procures. Therein lies the difference.Brive1987 wrote: ↑How would you suggest God should seek booty? He’s pretty unapproachable despite all those Brides of Christ.KiwiInOz wrote: ↑That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.MarcusAu wrote: ↑It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.
At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.
But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...
Oh, I know. I have no pulses in my dominant right arm since I spent a day with my right brachial artery compressed against a kitchen counter as I held my old Sharp Innova .22* and waited for a few hours for a rat to come back. I had a nice shower of splinter hemorrhages under my right fingernails that night, and have paid for my stupidity since by coping with a dominant arm doing everything as if I were working vertically, like screwing a screw into a ceiling. It worked comfortably as my blood pressure rose for various other reasons (which even fooled me into thinking I was growing collateral vessels) but once I recognised the BP as being ridiculously high I had to not only treat the BP, but also accept the wretchedly poor blood flow.CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ ... Now that my dominant arm is messed up...
Such comments have been prominent enough over the last 30 years - so pre-date #metoo or even hash-tags in general.
