Re: Fuck off, Jamie!
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:11 am
Yeah but mang driving one is something else. He got that shit right at least.
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Yeah but mang driving one is something else. He got that shit right at least.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... do-twitterOn Sunday, when a Twitter user pointed out that Musk was “calling the guy who found the children a pedo”, the billionaire responded: “Bet ya a signed dollar it’s true.”
Fact, Not Opinion, Is Potentially Defamatory
You're probably heard this multiple different ways: opinion can't be defamatory. Satire isn't defamation. Insults aren't defamation. Jokes are not defamation.
All of these rules derive from the same core idea: only statements that can reasonably be interpreted as asserting false statements of fact can be defamation.
So, for instance, a parody advertisement depicting Jerry Falwell has having drunken sex with his mother in an outhouse was protected speech because it could not "reasonably be understood as describing actual facts about [Falwell] or actual events in which [he] participated." "Rhetorical hyperbole" and "vigorous epithets" are not defamatory because they can't be understood as asserting specific facts.
Moreover, the question is not whether some hypothetical ignoramus would construe a statement to be factual. The question is whether a reader familiar with the context and the speaker and target would conclude that the statement is factual. So when WorldNetDaily sued Esquire over a parody about a silly birther book being withdrawn and pulped, the D.C. Circuit pointed out that it was analyzing the statement from the point of view of its target audience:
Some of this really annoys me. It seems as if the more a person is seen as an unscrupulous asshole, the more a person is free to say unscrupulous things about other people because everyone should already know the person is full of shit. Basically the blockbot is in solid ground because the blockbot is shit.Furthermore, the place of publication is important to the analysis. A growing and increasingly uniform body of law suggests that statements on the internet are less likely to be taken as literally true than statements elsewhere. This shouldn't surprise anyone who has been on the internet.
Next, the type of epithet figures into the fact vs. opinion analysis. Some sorts of accusations — such as that of racism — are so inherently subjective that more likely to be interpreted as opinion than fact.
Depends . Musk is American, the other guy is a Brit resident in Thailand.Guest_b8931fdb wrote: ↑
Again, I'm not defending Musk, I'm interesting in First Amendment things and libel falls into that.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/quora- ... 63868.htmlLibel: In the US, if someone accuses you of lying about them in print and sues you, they need to prove that what you said was false. UK libel law reverses the burden of proof: when suing someone for libel, it's up to the defendant to prove that what they said was true. More specifically, to win a libel case in the UK, the plaintiff only needs to demonstrate that the statement hurt their reputation; unlike in most situations in the US, they don't also need to prove that the statement was false. A UK defendant can, of course, mount a defense that "it was true," which is helpful if they can prove it.
Also, in the UK, if (1) you are sued for libel, and (2) you are a newspaper, and (3) you are not a member of a particular special press oversight organization that most newspapers have refused to join, then you may be legally required to pay the attorneys' fees for the person who filed the lawsuit, even if you win the case and are found to have done nothing wrong. (This provision of law has not yet taken effect; the legislation passed after the Leveson Inquiry.)
It looks like it has a long tail. Moose do not have long tails. Maybe a horse?
In what other circumstances would they move a "female prisoner" - violent or otherwise - to a male prison?A transgender prisoner has been charged with committing four sexual offences against inmates at a women's jail in West Yorkshire.
Karen White, 51, is accused of four counts of sexual touching at New Hall Prison, Wakefield.
The offences are alleged to have taken place between September and November last year.
She appeared before magistrates earlier this month and is due to appear at Leeds Crown Court in August.
More from Yorkshire
Ms White, who was born male but now identifies as a woman, has since been moved to a male prison.
Ministry of Justice (MoJ) guidance says in the "great majority" of cases transgender prisoners are allowed to "experience the system" in the gender in which they identify.
Not sure what happened - I created two separate posts on two separate subjects - but somehow they seem to have become conflated. (nb I removed the screenshots to reduce the effect of standing between two mirrors). Colliding ideas together to see what happens as Warren Ellis might say. Not sure about your reference to Brunel - or even if it is the film director or engineer.screwtape wrote: ↑ This is strange. I read this post:
<Joan Didion documentary screenshot removed>
and see it quoted as:
<Amazon math problem screenshot removed>
I write a pithy reply to the first, and have the wits to do a preview - fuck me, where did Brunel come into it? I can do the suspension bridge engineering if you like, but it's not that exciting. My own dear father did calculus problems at the breakfast table for fun and we were expected to join in.
I'd rather draw attention to the misquote "The Center Cannot Hold" and as I do so, I'll welcome you to another pet peeve. I must say that William Butler Yeats must take some kind of prize for writing a poem from lines are quoted without attribution (and most probably without knowledge) of their origin. Misspelt too in this particular quote. A highly concentrated sauce of ideas, it must have been reduced in the kitchen of Yeats' mind for years. Shame it was only about Irish independence, which was, sadly, an event far less significant than the poem. I read it for pleasure and perhaps I should feel it is a solitary and guilty pleasure, but the Oxford Book of English Verse does more for me these days than Mayfair or Penthouse ever did. And breakfast calculus too, for that matter.
As for the bizarre quote mix-up above - débrouillez-vous.
Oh well that's very true. It's almost certainly the case that UK's best venue is a UK or Thai court, and if my knowledge of what would happen in a US court is basically no idea, well it's less than that for Thai or UK courts.InfraRedBucket wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:14 pmDepends . Musk is American, the other guy is a Brit resident in Thailand.Guest_b8931fdb wrote: ↑
Again, I'm not defending Musk, I'm interesting in First Amendment things and libel falls into that.
Twitter is worldwide where means of recourse differs. Maybe he could try suing him via a UK court since Musk's statement were widely circulated there. Though the criteria was tightened up, We've had libel tourism in the past because our laws differed.
As I understand it Musk was corresponding with the dive team who encouraged him to keep working on the sub as a backup plan in case it rained heavily. Dude told him to "stick his submarine where it hurts" for his pains, so hardly unprovocative. How would you respond if you'd had a team of engineers building a sub 24 hours a day in case it was needed and had this idiot insult you for it? Calling the guy a pedo was a bit rich though. The Musk's of the world get it from both ends, damned by some for not splashing their money around to help out and damned as exploitative and cynical when they do. Not surprised he was so pissed off. So he's a bit of an arsehole sometimes. Doesn't make him a Brianna Wu.Shatterface wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:04 amOne million dollars might not be much to Musk but it's probably a life changing amount for the other guy.Hunt wrote: ↑That's probably all he'll ever get out of him. When you think of it, Musk is worth 20 billion. I heard said that a defamation suit could net the guy up to ONE MILLION DOLLARS (little finger). ooooooh, one million dollars. Musk probably uses million dollar bills to light his farts. The rich are different, and billionaires even "mo different". Don't expect to threaten a billionaire with legalities and get very far. Whatever apologies Musk utters is probably mandated by higher authorities: i.e. shareholders and boards of directors. Beyond that, he has carte blanche to indulge is id in whatever way he pleases.InfraRedBucket wrote: ↑ Musk issues vague notpology
Doesn't actually deny or retract that the Diver is a "paedo guy""His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologise," Mr Musk said
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44870303
Moral of the story: don't insult a billionaire unless you have very thick skin.
I don't know why people are defending Musk. Someone hurt his feelies and he libelled them to millions of followers. He's a cunt. Being rich doesn't make him less of a cunt. We don't make fucking excuses for Brianna Wu.
Some one asked him to do it.Guest_b8931fdb wrote: ↑ Elon Musk, apparently unsolicited
He either pays someone else to clean it, or he just buys another room.comhcinc wrote: ↑Some one asked him to do it.Guest_b8931fdb wrote: ↑ Elon Musk, apparently unsolicited
I wonder what Jordan Peterson thinks about Elon Musk? I wonder if Elon Musk cleans his room?
Havent looked for quite a while now but months ago I recall Peterson was retweeting Musk stuff quite positively .comhcinc wrote: ↑Some one asked him to do it.Guest_b8931fdb wrote: ↑ Elon Musk, apparently unsolicited
I wonder what Jordan Peterson thinks about Elon Musk? I wonder if Elon Musk cleans his room?
Turns pretty quick for a moose, but it doesn't move like a horse either, tho Matt would be the judge of that. I've spent a good deal of time in the woods, hunted most edible critters. Hard to tell what it is, tho I suspect Com might be on to something with video artifacts.
That's the problem with anonymous twitter accounts - nobody has any skin in the game.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ If only we could flay the hitleristic and the hyperproblematic... :cry:
Adult size and weight is largely determined by environmental factors; boars living in arid areas with little productivity tend to attain smaller sizes than their counterparts inhabiting areas with abundant food and water. In most of Europe, males average 75–100 kg (165–220 lb) in weight, 75–80 cm (30–31 in) in shoulder height and 150 cm (59 in) in body length, whereas females average 60–80 kg (130–180 lb) in weight, 70 cm (28 in) in shoulder height and 140 cm (55 in) in body length. In Europe's Mediterranean regions, males may reach average weights as low as 50 kg (110 lb) and females 45 kg (99 lb), with shoulder heights of 63–65 cm (25–26 in). In the more productive areas of Eastern Europe, males average 110–130 kg (240–290 lb) in weight, 95 cm (37 in) in shoulder height and 160 cm (63 in) in body length, while females weigh 95 kg (209 lb), reach 85–90 cm (33–35 in) in shoulder height and 145 cm (57 in) in body length. In Western and Central Europe, the largest males weigh 200 kg (440 lb) and females 120 kg (260 lb). In North-Eastern Asia, large males can reach brown bear-like sizes, weighing 270 kg (600 lb) and measuring 110–118 cm (43–46 in) in shoulder height. Some adult males in Ussuriland and Manchuria have been recorded to weigh 300–350 kg (660–770 lb) and measure 125 cm (49 in) in shoulder height. Adults of this size are generally immune from wolf predation.[35] Such giants are rare in modern times, due to past overhunting preventing animals from attaining their full growth.[3]
As far as I can tell Parsehole handed the Godfrey account over to her at some point.
Lisa wasn't the sole operator of God Emperor Godfrey, post-Parsehole - there were a group of people who ran it, and sometimes even Parsehole himself popped back to have a bit of fun with it.Dick Strawkins wrote: ↑As far as I can tell Parsehole handed the Godfrey account over to her at some point.
She was certainly using Parsehole's account Godfrey account. Itt may be the case that Parsehole kept his word about dropping the character as it was taking over his life but let a friend have fun with it.
It is very clear that there is a difference between the original Godfrey and the more recent Godfrey, both in terms of the overall quality of the jokes and in the targets of the jokes.
Godfrey version 2 still made some good jokes but it was very hit and miss and a lot of it deviated from the old anti-SJW hipster parody into a more political pro-Brexit stance that didn't really have anything to do with SJWs.
I would have gone with "here comes the neighborhood."SM1957 wrote:
'From 2000 to 2010, the city’s core lost 10,000 Black residents. In the historically Black neighborhoods of the Northeast such as King, Woodlawn and Boise-Eliot, Whites became the new majority in most census tracts'
People are understandably very disturbed that their new neighbours do not look like them 'Katrina Holland, deputy director of the Community Alliance of Tenants, said at the January hearing with politicians. The crisis, she said, ravages “people who look like me, African-American, and Native Americans, on top of generations of racially motivated, dramatic displacements.”'
Which is a fair point and easy to empathize with. But is it enough of a reason to make it worth the risk of having your head kicked in or being stabbed? That's a situational question, but most people are just going to sit still and feel scared and ashamed but also secretly relieved that it's not them....From a young age I became aware that people weren’t going to intervene, perhaps because they didn’t want to jeopardise their safety. But what it feels like, as the person targeted, is that when everyone stays silent they agree with the person attacking you.”
Indolent cishet whites are too lazy to lift a finger to help, even when helping could end in a trip to hospital where people lie around all day and be waited on, hand and foot.To me, his sentiment is the perfect summation of how people with privilege uphold systems of oppression without even doing anything. For such a thought implies it is solely the responsibility of trans bodies to endure the labour of transphobia, and not anyone cisgender. It shares a bed with the belief that only people of colour should be fighting racism. The idea that it would be inconvenient for someone cisgender to intervene in a transphobic attack illustrates the inertia of privilege– “Why should I help you out when things are easy for me right here? It’s too much effort.”
You know what’s too much effort? Being non-binary in a binary society that sees you as degenerate, and coping with all the violence that comes with the territory. So to those privileged people whose identities carry a little less strain, I ask you this: would exerting some energy to help those who are struggling really be so tiring?
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ The Porsche Boster is over-engineered. You can get a used Sherman for the price of a new Asus™ laptop.
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ The Porsche Boster is over-engineered. You can get a used Sherman for the price of a new Asus™ laptop.
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Three fucking Porsches. But Brianna Wu is going to connect with working Democrats to be elected. A shrieking velocitranny that has conspicuously gone through three Porsches understands the common (Massachusetts?) person's problems. That may be a problem.
Mass. does habitually elect Kennedy’s even the brain damamged drooling ones. Wu may have a shot there.... just kidding..Wu is toastCaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Three fucking Porsches. But Brianna Wu is going to connect with working Democrats to be elected. A shrieking velocitranny that has conspicuously gone through three Porsches understands the common (Massachusetts?) person's problems. That may be a problem.
Will the prejudice against people from Transylvania never end?Shatterface wrote: ↑ If I saw a transwoman and pretty much anyone not wearing a suicide vest and shouting 'Allahu Akbar!' locking horns if stay out of it because 9 times out of 10 the tranny started it.
This is actually a problem of income inequality and lack of access to loans after predatory lending. Poor whites are being "displaced" too. Racializing the issue is good for clickbait, though.SM1957 wrote: ↑ Population replacement is real. It is happening and it must be stopped.
'From 2000 to 2010, the city’s core lost 10,000 Black residents. In the historically Black neighborhoods of the Northeast such as King, Woodlawn and Boise-Eliot, Whites became the new majority in most census tracts'
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/gen ... -residents
People are understandably very disturbed that their new neighbours do not look like them 'Katrina Holland, deputy director of the Community Alliance of Tenants, said at the January hearing with politicians. The crisis, she said, ravages “people who look like me, African-American, and Native Americans, on top of generations of racially motivated, dramatic displacements.”'
Fuck off.Mookie wrote: ↑ Every time I see an anti-Dawkins post (there is a new one) from PZ (justified or not) I think about the Sophie’s Choice poor PZ had to make after Dear Muslima. At first, of course, he was quiet—no doubt hoping it would die down. But RW saw it as her golden ticket (which she has more or less squandered) and ran with the anti-Dick trope. That, rather delightfully, forced PZ to choose between his man-crush on Dawkins and his fatal attraction to RW. Can’t really fault him for going with his nads—which among us can cast that first stone? On the other hand, you think he could have seen what was obvious to the rest of the world, that RW no doubt viewed him as a creepy, old, useful idiot whose only value was in directing traffic her way. Dollars to donuts she makes fun of his slavishness behind his back.
I think every new anti-Dawkins post from PZ is, in part, a RW dog whistle.
BTW: My first post. I expect a proper welcome.