Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:39 pm
by Shatterface
If it's a time travel machine why not wait till it's a proven success then pop back in time and invest?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:53 pm
by MacGruberKnows
Shatterface wrote: ↑
If it's a time travel machine why not wait till it's a proven success then pop back in time and invest?
There ya' go.. Letting everyone in on it is like selling the guaranteed stock market software system. If it worked, everyone would buy it and everyone would be selling and buying the same stocks to the millesecond. So stock market software is inherently contradictory. If it actually works it defeats itself unless you just use the software and keep it to yourself. If you can time travel keep it to yourself. Go back in time and buy AOL and sell it when it went up I believe 15,000X and then fell to nothing which I believe is when Windows came out with IE for Win 95 or 98. Or buy Bre-X, a penny stock that went to over $300/share until the chief geologist 'died' by 'falling' out of a helicopter in New Guinea or Borneo some such place because the claims of gold were all bullshit, in fact the samples for the proposed gold pit-mine operation were clearly placer samples.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
There ya' go.. Letting everyone in on it is like selling the guaranteed stock market software system. If it worked, everyone would buy it and everyone would be selling and buying the same stocks to the millesecond. So stock market software is inherently contradictory.
Much like the book Everyone can be a Successful Millionaire with these Easy Five Steps (it worked for the author).
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Was pleased to see this getting a lot of push back on the gay blogs.
I just don't get SJW antipathy to gays. This decade of growing gay acceptance is the kind of social change SJWs should want to see, but they try to rewrite it as a story of privileged shitlords.
I've never seen a reason why many SJWs are keen to cast gays as oppressors.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Was pleased to see this getting a lot of push back on the gay blogs.
I just don't get SJW antipathy to gays. This decade of growing gay acceptance is the kind of social change SJWs should want to see, but they try to rewrite it as a story of privileged shitlords.
I've never seen a reason why many SJWs are keen to cast gays as oppressors.
Because the transgenders have hated being second fiddle to gays. I predicted that gay marriage would put transgenders to the top of the pity heap and
things would not work out well. A lot of transgenders are just nuts, and competely unlikeable and turn a lot of people off. Plus gays were people of ONE sex who liked people of the OTHER sex. Binary stuff. Which is of course FACISM with a pink stick. So people who are one of an infinite shades of sexual gray - read SPECIAL - who might be a male to female tranny, but are lesbian cause they have a cock they are keeping cause they want to shove that LESBIAN cock into a female and you are a NAZI if you don't want that M->F tranny shoving it's cock into you. It is all just laughable nonsense. And of course laughter is the last resort of a NAZI.
Therefore, NAZI's, NAZI's everywhere. Cause tranny's.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:11 am
by MacGruberKnows
Yeah, should have said "people of the same sex', but still binary and all, therefore still NAZI.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:14 am
by shoutinghorse
Can I add this utter cunt to the cunt list please. :x
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:03 am
by Hunt
shoutinghorse wrote: ↑
Can I add this utter cunt to the cunt list please. :x
There's really only one appropriate punishment for people like that.
Was pleased to see this getting a lot of push back on the gay blogs.
I just don't get SJW antipathy to gays. This decade of growing gay acceptance is the kind of social change SJWs should want to see, but they try to rewrite it as a story of privileged shitlords.
I've never seen a reason why many SJWs are keen to cast gays as oppressors.
Because they're white males, and not each and everyone of them is on board with intersectionality. It's as simple as that. The SocJus even argues, at times, that white women are spoiled, entitled "white feminists" and even (hilariously enough) that black men are "the white men of black people". Hell I'm pretty sure that "gender/race traitors" and "acting cis" trans would quickly get the short end of the stick in SocJus circles.
It's the intersectional stack. Instead of trying to deal with different issues according to different and sometimes overlapping contexts (the original intent of intersectionality) now intersectionality is often about establishing a rigid pecking order that depends on both belonging to a specific identity AND toeing the line. The objective is to acquire enough of an audience to become untouchable, then rain down on others for not respecting your commands and demands.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:11 am
by Kirbmarc
People like Melissa McEwan have won the intersectional game. They're managed to spin enough of a sob story/victimhood narrative and now their demands are law, you can't approach them or even send them messages without performing some ritual of humiliation, you MUST listen to them and believe them, you MUST do as they say or else you're a bigot. As long as McEwan doesn't happen to stumble on someone with a bigger audience AND a better sob story she'll always have her audience ready to tear into anyone she dislikes.
That's a form of power money can't buy. It might be very limited, and mostly online, but McEwan is treated like royalty just for existing.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Nobody's stealing loaves of bread or antibiotics. Government subsidies like WiC and Medicare are available to those under the poverty line. (It's the s.g. "working poor" who get left out.) There is simply no evidence to support the assertion that poverty is a proximate cause of crime among blacks, especially not murder.
Alcohol abuse is one of the few areas not disproportionately found among blacks.
Drug use inevitably leads to crime among any demographic. (NB: legalizing drugs will not change this.)
Gangs are a huge factor. Gangs are cultural phenomenon found almost exclusively among blacks and hispanics.
Unemployment is high among urban blacks, but urban blacks are largely unemployable, due to lack of education, lack of skills, patois, and subcultural behaviors at odds with mainstream culture.
You have a subculture where education is not valued, women get pregnant at an early age, drop out of school, continue to get pregnant as single mothers, and struggle to raise a family on a single, low wage income. Where men also drop out of school to either join gangs, work low wage jobs, or simply loaf, and father multiple children with multiple women, rarely domiciling with the mothers to form a stable family unit.
Pumping money into schools or programs or public works is not sufficient. Blaming poverty or slavery or white privilege does nothing. Highlighting the dichotomy between a genetic etiology proposed by a handful of crackpots vs. cultural etiology is but a dodge. Because to solve this problem, the existing black urban subculture would need to be attacked root and branch, and that proposal is anathema to cultural-relativist leftists.
And, because leftists are all fucking retarded, I must note that this is clearly primarily a (sub)cultural problem, not a racial one per se. Nor is it by any means a condemnation of all aspects of black cultural heritage. Because there are blacks outside of the black urban subculture who are thriving in mainstream society, and are not committing crimes at anywhere near those rates.
Assuming that all of this is true, how do you even approach these kinds of issues? How do you "fix" a subculture, especially if, as you say, education or public works programs don't work?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:23 am
by Guest_d2e60302
Assuming that all of this is true, how do you even approach these kinds of issues? How do you "fix" a subculture, especially if, as you say, education or public works programs don't work?
I guess by fixing structural problems, incentivizing good behaviors economically, and removing incentives for bad behaviors.
See the Moynihan Report, that predicted much of where we are, and was labeled racist for doing so.
+ strengthen two parent families
+ remove economic incentives to split up
+ incentivize jobs over unemployment
+ provide good health care, actual family planning, good education
+ provide positive role models and positive environments (perhaps a mandatory but not necessarily military national service)
+ offer job training, and drug/alcohol rehab.
(stop giving presidential awards or inviting to the white house popular entertainers that nevertheless promote the wrong behaviors)
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:31 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Those "sub-cultures" are widely encouraged by the media. Being "ghetto" is awesome. Hell, even here we had that disgusting piece of crap Baby Hip-Hop where you can see a CGI toddler sporting bling and gold teeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avbnLIT6uUU
Same with the shitty "ghetto" subculture we have in France, except that one breeds ISIS fighters.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:53 am
by Brive1987
Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Looks like Amazon is catching the Google flu.
Let’s not forget that the 2001 Act had one main condition for permanency. Two years of higher learning (or military service).
This dude is literally buying pre-emptive dreamer criteria
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:11 am
by Sulman
There's something a bit odd about this story. Ansari is an SJW and therefore obviously a total creep and - shocker - he's a pussy hound. Why wasn't she firmer? https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:56 am
by Shatterface
What exactly does 'strengthen two parent families' and 'remove economic incentives to split up' entail?
What are those economic incentives, and why, as a single man, as I not getting them already?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:19 am
by VickyCaramel
shoutinghorse wrote: ↑
Can I add this utter cunt to the cunt list please. :x
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:23 am
by Sunder
The welfare system has a lot of perverse incentives,which conservatives rightly point out create disincentives to work, disincentives to marry, etc.
Trouble is, 9 times out of 10, it was conservatives who either put them there or pressured that they be included, because the alternative is maybe some small amount of people get help who may not desperately need it. Better to means-test the fuck out of every program in a way that often costs more money than it saves and ensure that anyone earning 1 penny too much can't get food stamps.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:28 am
by Sunder
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
She said while the Pit is presently voting on the Cuntie awards, because "cunt" status has no concrete, objective qualifications, and can be subject to a simple opinion poll.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:34 am
by Sunder
Kirbmarc wrote: ↑
People like Melissa McEwan have won the intersectional game. They're managed to spin enough of a sob story/victimhood narrative and now their demands are law, you can't approach them or even send them messages without performing some ritual of humiliation, you MUST listen to them and believe them, you MUST do as they say or else you're a bigot. As long as McEwan doesn't happen to stumble on someone with a bigger audience AND a better sob story she'll always have her audience ready to tear into anyone she dislikes.
That's a form of power money can't buy. It might be very limited, and mostly online, but McEwan is treated like royalty just for existing.
McEwan's got a lot of ex-fans who turned on her over the time she eulogized a TERF. There's still every possibility that someday she ends up in Benson's shoes. If I were a betting man I'd say the whisper campaign is probably already in effect and we'll just wake up one morning to see the last domino fall without being able to trace the exact path it took.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
She said while the Pit is presently voting on the Cuntie awards, because "cunt" status has no concrete, objective qualifications, and can be subject to a simple opinion poll.
Even so, I tend to base my opinions on rational arguments rather than emotional ones. Even the idea to deport all Peruvians, because panpipe music is shit and thats an objective fact.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
I just don't get SJW antipathy to gays. This decade of growing gay acceptance is the kind of social change SJWs should want to see, but they try to rewrite it as a story of privileged shitlords.
I've never seen a reason why many SJWs are keen to cast gays as oppressors.
Precisely because homosexuality is now widely accepted (even under conservatives, albeit grudgingly), it has become mainstream and thus "oppressive" or otherwise unacceptable.
If conservatives are shown to like yoghurt, yoghurt is declared to be oppressive.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:49 am
by screwtape
MacGruberKnows wrote: ↑
Or buy Bre-X, a penny stock that went to over $300/share until the chief geologist 'died' by 'falling' out of a helicopter in New Guinea or Borneo some such place because the claims of gold were all bullshit, in fact the samples for the proposed gold pit-mine operation were clearly placer samples.
The quotes around 'died' might be very appropriate. The body identified as Guzman's was mostly eaten by animals, and was missing its hands, feet and the penis had been surgically removed, The identification was based on a molar and a thumb print lifted from an item with it. By pure coincidence, a body of a man had been stolen from the local mortuary just before his suicide. Pity there was no DNA testing then. I followed the story closely as I had worked with or met four of the siblings of Bre-X chief geologist John Felderhof, who was the only officer of Bre-X charged with insider trading (and found not guilty). The movie Gold was based on the Bre-X scandal.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:50 am
by Kirbmarc
Sunder wrote: ↑McEwan's got a lot of ex-fans who turned on her over the time she eulogized a TERF. There's still every possibility that someday she ends up in Benson's shoes. If I were a betting man I'd say the whisper campaign is probably already in effect and we'll just wake up one morning to see the last domino fall without being able to trace the exact path it took.
Of course. Trans identity is at the top of pretty much all identities.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
The quotes around 'died' might be very appropriate. The body identified as Guzman's was mostly eaten by animals, and was missing its hands, feet and the penis had been surgically removed
Question, did his body fall out of a helicopter over Papua New Guinea?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
Yeah, species going extinct is no biggie. Bleeding heart liberals, all.
Hunting is done as part of the population management, and allowing rich Americans to pay through the nose to exercise their natural instincts goes a long way to funding conservation efforts.
So your ignorant argument doesn't count because it is invalid. I should have bet money.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
shoutinghorse wrote: ↑
Can I add this utter cunt to the cunt list please. :x
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
In my book, anyone who thinks "God said I could" is sufficient justification for killing a highly intelligent mammal is a cunt. I wouldn't necessarily say that hunting an elephant under any circumstance makes one a cunt, but there are way more factors to consider than whether God approves.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
She said while the Pit is presently voting on the Cuntie awards, because "cunt" status has no concrete, objective qualifications, and can be subject to a simple opinion poll.
Even so, I tend to base my opinions on rational arguments rather than emotional ones. Even the idea to deport all Peruvians, because panpipe music is shit and thats an objective fact.
So a "divine right" to kill animals is a rational argument?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Hunting is done as part of the population management, and allowing rich Americans to pay through the nose to exercise their natural instincts goes a long way to funding conservation efforts.
So your ignorant argument doesn't count because it is invalid. I should have bet money.
Hunting a species that ought to have conservation status aids its conservation? I want my money back.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
shoutinghorse wrote: ↑
Can I add this utter cunt to the cunt list please. :x
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
In my book, anyone who thinks "God said I could" is sufficient justification for killing a highly intelligent mammal is a cunt. I wouldn't necessarily say that hunting an elephant under any circumstance makes one a cunt, but there are way more factors to consider than whether God approves.
Elephants are at least as intelligent as whales, maybe even chimps, and have spindle cells, possessed by only by primates and cetaceans.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Sunder wrote: ↑McEwan's got a lot of ex-fans who turned on her over the time she eulogized a TERF. There's still every possibility that someday she ends up in Benson's shoes. If I were a betting man I'd say the whisper campaign is probably already in effect and we'll just wake up one morning to see the last domino fall without being able to trace the exact path it took.
Of course. Trans identity is at the top of pretty much all identities.
We lost the coveted victim status when we started fighting for marriage rights. Wanting marriage rights was seen as a heteronormative betrayal by the queer studies set who believe the nuclear family to be oppressive. Trans activists were upset when gays wouldn't abandon their priorities to concentrate on trans rights. Trans already had the ability to get married, so gays fighting for marriage rights did nothing for trans and was perceived by them as not in their interests and therefore anti-trans. I wish I were making this up.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Yeah making wagers and then declaring yourself the arbiter of the outcome would be a pretty great racket if anyone here were dumb or trusting enough to take you up on it.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:25 am
by John D
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:45 am
by Shatterface
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
I couldn't tell you why Harold Shipman was a cunt without making an 'emotional' argument. I'm not a robot.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:15 am
by Service Dog
Sulman wrote: ↑
There's something a bit odd about this story. Ansari is an SJW and therefore obviously a total creep and - shocker - he's a pussy hound. Why wasn't she firmer? https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355
Aziz did nothing creepy, even by her own account. She behaved indecisively & so he campaigned for her to decide in his favor... giving her reasonable option to choose otherwise. She's disinginuous in claiming that her passivity indicated dissent rather than assent-- because she displayed PLENTY of ability to sharply dissent then & there, when she felt-like complaining "You guys are all the same!" and "I hate men."
I don't know if Aziz is an SJW. His declaration of Feminism on Letterman (embedded in the article) sounds like a hapless guy who is new to the topic, not an inveterate bad-actor.
I knew Aziz in passing, when he was basically a college kid who realized he'd never grow to be physically imposing-- but who also realized he could more-than compensate with devilish charm. It has served him well & I hope he unapologetically collides head-on with this #metoo smear... he'll emerge a hero. He might not have it in him, tho. Too agreeable.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:19 am
by VickyCaramel
Guest_ea4e1463 wrote: ↑
Gad Saad did a video on this a few years ago
Awwww, morally outraged Gad Saad thinks the anti-smoking lobby is less corrupt and more "factual" than the tobacco industry.
He has a habit of relying on dodgy, cherry picked sources, especially on the subject of Israel. Saad clown.
katamari Damassi wrote: ↑
So a "divine right" to kill animals is a rational argument?
Absolutely. The Liberalists have just got into the debate about where our rights come from, I'll take "god given" rights as a metaphor, I certainly don't think anyone has the right to grant my rights to me.
The natural order of things is clear from where we are sitting, although it probably isn't quite as clear to a trophy hunter who is facing down a buffalo with a pistol. His right to hunt isn't only permitted, it is encouraged for good reason.
The world over, hunters have been practicing conservation for centuries in order to conserve their ability to hunt. I am not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Unlike lobby groups, hunters don't pay themselves large salaries, bonuses and spend extraordinary amounts of money trying to persuade tree huggers to sponsor a fucking snow leopard.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Hunting is done as part of the population management, and allowing rich Americans to pay through the nose to exercise their natural instincts goes a long way to funding conservation efforts.
So your ignorant argument doesn't count because it is invalid. I should have bet money.
Hunting a species that ought to have conservation status aids its conservation? I want my money back.
Hunting an elephant in an area where they exceed the sustainable population is not going to do anything to prevent poaching in areas where the population is under threat. In an ideal world excess elephants could be moved to where they are needed (assuming no issues with localised genetics), however that takes lots of money. You can't send them by parcel post.
Elephants are not crops. They have an emotional life,they experience trauma and there is evidence that they can feel empathy. In South Africa we had a problem with anti-social elephants killing rhino and generally being a PITA. It eventually dawned on people that these were elephants whose parents had been culled in their presence.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:04 am
by MarcusAu
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
Hunting an elephant in an area where they exceed the sustainable population is not going to do anything to prevent poaching in areas where the population is under threat. In an ideal world excess elephants could be moved to where they are needed (assuming no issues with localised genetics), however that takes lots of money. You can't send them by parcel post.
Elephants are not crops. They have an emotional life,they experience trauma and there is evidence that they can feel empathy. In South Africa we had a problem with anti-social elephants killing rhino and generally being a PITA. It eventually dawned on people that these were elephants whose parents had been culled in their presence.
Some might say this conclusion might was inevitable - though others would say that 'must' is an option.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Hunting is done as part of the population management, and allowing rich Americans to pay through the nose to exercise their natural instincts goes a long way to funding conservation efforts.
How certain are you that those fees go a long way to funding conservation efforts, as opposed to going a long way to fund the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt local bigwigs in the notoriously corrupt continent of Africa?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
katamari Damassi wrote: ↑
So a "divine right" to kill animals is a rational argument?
Absolutely. The Liberalists have just got into the debate about where our rights come from, I'll take "god given" rights as a metaphor, I certainly don't think anyone has the right to grant my rights to me.
Is that the same kind of absolutely rational god-given right a good number of Jews go on about as regards Israel?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:34 am
by Shatterface
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑The natural order of things is clear from where we are sitting, although it probably isn't quite as clear to a trophy hunter who is facing down a buffalo with a pistol. His right to hunt isn't only permitted, it is encouraged for good reason.
Can you tell me what the 'good reason' is for 'facing down' a buffalo and shooting it with a pistol? You make it sound like the buffalo has invaded his house.
The world over, hunters have been practicing conservation for centuries in order to conserve their ability to hunt.
Exactly how does a dentist do this?
I am not sure why this is so hard for people to understand. Unlike lobby groups, hunters don't pay themselves large salaries, bonuses and spend extraordinary amounts of money trying to persuade tree huggers to sponsor a fucking snow leopard.
Sure, conservationists are motivated entirely by money. That's not a motivation for you presumably? You do whatever you do out of the goodness of your heart.
Either way, I'd rather me motivated by money than blood lust.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Hunting is done as part of the population management, and allowing rich Americans to pay through the nose to exercise their natural instincts goes a long way to funding conservation efforts.
How certain are you that those fees go a long way to funding conservation efforts, as opposed to going a long way to fund the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt local bigwigs in the notoriously corrupt continent of Africa?
About as sure that the £3 a month that goes to the WWF or any other charity/lobby group goes to the right place, doesn't get skimmed by professional lobbyists, marketing campaigns, all expenses trips to Geneva.... AND THEN going a long way to fund the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt local bigwigs in the notoriously corrupt continent of Africa?
It is what it is. Frankly, corruption is the cost of doing business in some parts of the world... even here in the UK at times.
I have become extremely cynical about certain industries. I am sure I don't need to tell you about Domestic Violence charities, PETA's sins are well documented. It's probably worse with the anti-smoking lobby and the environmental lobby are shady too. It is a licence to print money, all they have to do is keep hyping the problem and causing outrage and then they can either go with their hands out to government or play on the public's sympathies. They are the original SJWs.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:06 am
by Tigzy
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
About as sure that the £3 a month that goes to the WWF or any other charity/lobby group goes to the right place, doesn't get skimmed by professional lobbyists, marketing campaigns, all expenses trips to Geneva.... AND THEN going a long way to fund the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt local bigwigs in the notoriously corrupt continent of Africa?
So it's either:
Donate money, and see a substantial amount of it whittled down by skimming and corrupt local bigwigs.
or
Pay a hunting fee, and see a substantial amount of it whittled down only by corrupt local bigwigs - which is better, because, well, at least it's not being skimmed by those bastard lobbyists and marketeers. Oh, and there's a dead elephant or two in the bargain as well.
Hmm. Tricky.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑The natural order of things is clear from where we are sitting, although it probably isn't quite as clear to a trophy hunter who is facing down a buffalo with a pistol. His right to hunt isn't only permitted, it is encouraged for good reason.
Can you tell me what the 'good reason' is for 'facing down' a buffalo and shooting it with a pistol? You make it sound like the buffalo has invaded his house.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
About as sure that the £3 a month that goes to the WWF or any other charity/lobby group goes to the right place, doesn't get skimmed by professional lobbyists, marketing campaigns, all expenses trips to Geneva.... AND THEN going a long way to fund the Swiss bank accounts of corrupt local bigwigs in the notoriously corrupt continent of Africa?
So it's either:
Donate money, and see a substantial amount of it whittled down by skimming and corrupt local bigwigs.
or
Pay a hunting fee, and see a substantial amount of it whittled down only by corrupt local bigwigs - which is better, because, well, at least it's not being skimmed by those bastard lobbyists and marketeers. Oh, and there's a dead elephant or two in the bargain as well.
Hmm. Tricky.
That door swings both ways.
Besides, the animals being killed would be killed anyway. Might as well earn some money out of it, waste not, want not.
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VickyCaramel wrote: ↑
It was always obvious that all Trump was ever going to do was change a few laws (if he could), most of which would be aimed at boosting the economy, which is what he has done.
Of what boost to the economy do you speak, and which specific laws has trump changed to effect that?
How about the tax laws? Americans might call them codes or something, we call them laws.
And then there is the very highest form of law, the international treaty. Trump Ripped up the Trans Pacific Partnership... because who wants to be partnered with trans people?
I don't really need to defend Trump, the sky hasn't fallen in and the economy is doing fine.
LOL. The TPP never went into effect, so how can trump 'ripping it up' have any effect on the economy?
The new tax law benefits the very rich while hurting the the middle class. That never works as an economy boost.
On do you base your assumption that the US economy is 'doing fine'? It's sluggish and has been for the past 17 years.
trump has done very little since sneaking into office, aside from posturing and foaming at the mouth and tweeting/snorting at 3 in the morning. A year in, and he still hasn't filled half of government positions, which is crippling every agency's ability to do their job.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Besides, the animals being killed would be killed anyway. Might as well earn some money out of it, waste not, want not.
Same with kids.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:55 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Big game trophy hunters have been shown to all be premature ejaculators, who must compensate for their diminished manhood by killing large, powerful beasts.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:04 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Get rich trophy hunter to hire approved guide, pay licence fee, target nuisance animals in areas where populations are exceeding the ability of the carrying load of the habitat, feed the meat to local starving nig nogs, and harvest usable animal parts. All proceeds need to be earmarked to help conservation efforts such as game wardens, research... https://ageconsearch.umn.edu/bitstream/ ... 01ho01.pdf
Culling excess populations is often considered cruel, but if populations exceed the ability of the habitat to sustain them, animals die by things like starvation, disease, and fighting for territory and ultimately populations crash and even disappear because they have destroyed their own habitat.
Is shooting a bear crueler than having another bear kill it in a fight for territory or having it slowly starve to death.
I haven't engaged in trophy hunting, and basically hunted deer and birds for meat from healthy populations. I do know people that have made a living guiding trophy hunters, and they are conservation minded and ethical hunters. They also are licensed and cooperate with wildlife management and wardens to curb poaching and illegal hunting and serve an important role because they help police areas that wildlife officers don't have the resources to do themselves. It is illegal to leave game meat behind, so they insure that doesn't happen.
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:06 pm
by shoutinghorse
I bet you can't tell us why he is a cunt without making an emotional argument.
Of course my argument is emotional, how could it not be, I hate seeing beautiful wild animals killed for no other reason than it makes some fat American dentist feel like Stewart fucking Granger.
As far as I'm concerned anyone who gets a kick out of slaughtering an Elephant for sport is a cunt and people who make excuses for them are cunts too.
That emotional enough for you Vicky?
Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one of them
