There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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SM1957 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Even Brian Pansy knows RED is a safe word. How many of you guys knew it was a universal safe word?
Traffic light system is quite common. I wouldn't say red was a universal safeword. There are other safewords used.


I tend to use red. That means I can say 20 no's in 5 seconds , confident that it won't stop :-)
I think they told Hitchens to use "red" as the safe word when they waterboarded them. I'm not sure if it was supposed to be BDSM.

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Amohpmyl wrote:
InfraRedBucket wrote:
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Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:12 pm
Oooh! There's going to be a reading of Powell's most famous an prescient speech on R4 on Saturday: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43745447

If anyone could record it for me I'd be very grateful...
MWSnap082 2018-04-14, 23_42_40 (1).jpg

Here it is converted to mp3
Havent listened to it fully yet, the Powell voice impersonation is a but too "wobbly William Hague" to me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gz5wibzkyfzqs ... 5.mp3?dl=0
Thanks, fella!
YouTube has a version without the commentry - though I also haven't QA'd it yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nyZdi1atE

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Exhibit A

Is Beck PA-ly hinting that Dawkins and Robyn Blumner are bio-buddies?

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Exhibit B:

Didn’t abusing your boyfriend by tweet presage last relationships downfall?


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Brive1987 wrote: Exhibit B:

Didn’t abusing your boyfriend by tweet presage last relationships downfall?

>Asks weird, creepy question

>Gets quick answer

>The person who answered the question is creepy.

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Brive1987 wrote: Exhibit A

Is Beck PA-ly hinting that Dawkins and Robyn Blumner are bio-buddies?
Watson had nothing bad to say about Dawkins before she felt personally slighted. In fact she previously had some hero worship for him eg using his voice as a ringtone. She is a self-obsessed narcisist and probably the worst advocate for womans rights (or anything else) that has had anything to do with the atheist activist/skeptic/conference scene. Stewing in her own bitterness for over half a decade seems not to have improved her dispositon at all. I can only hope that her influence is in direct proporrtion to her talents.

Luckily for her that Dawkins is not a vindictive individual or he could have really screwed up her career prospects.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:32 pm
Luckily for her that Dawkins is not a vindictive individual or he could have really screwed up her career prospects.
Trust me, Rebecca Watson needs no outside help to ruin her career prospects.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:00 pm
YouTube has a version without the commentry - though I also haven't QA'd it yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nyZdi1atE
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?

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So who was this senior woman? Not Rose St Clair I assume. I bet she's pissed as fuck.

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Well Harmful Opinions appear to be back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auV2VO5vmdE

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MarcusAu wrote: When I hear the phrase 'trad-life' (mostly from people that are young, unmarried and conservative) - it seems fairly undefined - and I suspect that that may be by design.

I'm also reminded of the old Woodstock couple photo - because by any definition there were (and probably still are) plenty of liberals living the 'trad-life' (as per the story in the link with the couple still being together after 45 years).

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_901vIJ_iTew/ ... couple.jpg

As to other societal changes - abortion, divorce and pre-matrial sex had to be destigmatized at some point - or if not - I don't really have a problem that they were.
Would be very depressing to learn they're Trump supporters.

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rayshul wrote: So who was this senior woman? Not Rose St Clair I assume. I bet she's pissed as fuck.
from Brive above:
Brive1987 wrote: Exhibit A

Is Beck PA-ly hinting that Dawkins and Robyn Blumner are bio-buddies?
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feathers wrote:
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
Unfortunately Ozzy and Timothy Spall were both not available.

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MarcusAu wrote:
feathers wrote:
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
Unfortunately Ozzy and Timothy Spall were both not available.
Perhaps they could get the current MP for Wolverhampton South West to read out her predecessor's speech, warning about population replacement

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... crop_2.jpg

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MarcusAu wrote:
rayshul wrote: So who was this senior woman? Not Rose St Clair I assume. I bet she's pissed as fuck.
from Brive above:
Brive1987 wrote: Exhibit A

Is Beck PA-ly hinting that Dawkins and Robyn Blumner are bio-buddies?
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I think Rayshul is interested in the lady who was blocked from Silvermans crew despite having performed all necessary services.

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My son brought our dog a special present.

http://i.imgur.com/LaXETOH.jpg

The dog is very pro white.

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The mogster has blown a hole in his foot.

Good luck now mate.


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Brive1987 wrote: The mogster has blown a hole in his foot.

Good luck now mate.

So what's your beef with this guy? He's basically a trad-life fan, I thought you'd like him.

*reads the tweet*

Oh, I see. He made the fatal mistake of pointing out that a racialist narrative is divisive and leads to social tensions. He's probably, what's that word, a "cuckservative"? Not "red-pilled" enough? :bjarte:

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Brive1987 wrote: My son brought our dog a special present.

http://i.imgur.com/LaXETOH.jpg

The dog is very pro white.
Watch out when he's around cats, he probably wants to grab all the female cats.

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There is no comparable official figure for the year 2000, but it must be in the region of five to seven million, approximately one-tenth of the whole population, and approaching that of Greater London. Of course, it will not be evenly distributed from Margate to Aberystwyth and from Penzance to Aberdeen. Whole areas, towns and parts of towns across England will be occupied by sections of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population.
Powell’s speech is basic demographics. And has been born out. His anecdote of urban terraforming and black on white branding of “racialist” is relatively uncontroversial. His concern over silencing laws is almost passe. And all this before the islamification of the UK was even on the radar.

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Brive1987 wrote: The mogster has blown a hole in his foot.

Good luck now mate.

Moggy Sr was right, especially about Powell's appeal to anecdote and self-pity - always a mark of identity politics.

A reminder that as with much else, we invented it first. I'm so proud.

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Brive1987 wrote: I think Rayshul is interested in the lady who was blocked from Silvermans crew despite having performed all necessary services.
Yep. I don't get SJWs. They want to get shit for being a woman but they don't want people to fuck for it?

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Even though that's what most of them do?

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Of course, Moggy Jr could just be mouthing trendy opinions because they make him popular, he being noted for such behaviour.

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feathers wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:00 pm
YouTube has a version without the commentry - though I also haven't QA'd it yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nyZdi1atE
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
Maybe they expected him to use his evil emperor Palpatine voice?

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My opinion of Powell is the same as Douglas Murray's. We should all be terrified that even the most extreme predictions made were all vast underestimates.

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Shatterface wrote: Of course, Moggy Jr could just be mouthing trendy opinions because they make him popular, he being noted for such behaviour.
Moggy jnr is no better than the rest of the shower of self serving, self preservation two faced tossers that sit on the benches of parliament from all sides of the house, they are only really interested in their constituents when an election comes round and they're touting for votes. All MP's basically piss in the same party before country pot.
He has said some great things re Brexit, "Hold the PM's feet to the fire" type of stuff but like the rest of his Tory Brexiteer cohorts his idea of holding her feet to the fire is pontificating on various TV & Radio shows. Even with her spineless negotiations with the EU he will still praise Theresa May with the usual "an exceptional Prime Minister who has my full support" standard line. Too many talk the talk but can't walk the walk. It's the same when it comes to debating immigration and especially the 'Muslim' question, they all shy away from honesty because they are shit scared of being labelled a racist and that would never do, they might lose votes. It's how Rotherham, Rochdale & the rest were allowed to fester, still are.

What's that old adage about evil triumphs when good men do nothing again?


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I am a YouTube comedian who makes satirical videos on Islam and politics with the aim of furthering free speech and critical thinking. I am from a Muslim background but consider myself agnostic. I believe comedy and satire can go a long way in highlighting important issues in society and Muslims could benefit greatly from adopting this traditi
Why isn't this guy getting all the support of the "atheism/skeptic" movement? This is EXACTLY the job for the "secular community".
The Salafi/Wahhabi movement for the most part has been responsible for the growing trend in literalism and intolerance over the past few decades. They have dominated the tone of the religion and have been very tech savvy in spreading their beliefs. This sect still holds much sway over people across the world as it is funded by Saudi Arabia and they, also by virtue of geography, have a monopoly over the two holiest sites in the Muslim world. I think there is no better time to challenge their hegemony with so many open minded Muslims and ex-Muslims telling their stories and sharing their ideas.
This is the message, folks. These are the cultural flaws that atheists, skeptic, secularists, need to address NOW. Forget about the ethno-state crap. Let's challenge the Salafi dawah and literalist islam in general. Let's focus on debunking the idiocy of islam apologists, from Reza Aslan to CJ Werleman. Let's counter the Muslim Brotherhood narratives. Let's fight the "culture war" to allow more secular, modern muslims and ex muslims to become the dominant forces in their community. Let's smash the cultural dominance of the reactionaries and conservatives within islam.
Nick Cohen is spot on, many on the Left lack the courage and moral fibre to call out bigotry within Muslim community, shielding them from any criticism or ridicule. This is made worse by the fact that they try to label Muslim reformers/liberals and ex-Muslims as sellouts. This stance is not only inconsistent with their own values, but also paternalistic and infantilising to Muslims. Muslims need to be subjected to the same level of criticism and ridicule as any other community in order to develop and clean out their own backyard.

I have seen this painfully play out in the comedy scene (which is largely liberal) as comics are quick to mock Trump and the Right (as they should) but go awfully quiet on Islam and Muslims. There is much to ridicule and criticise Islam and Muslims on, just like everyone else, but their silence is not helping Muslims but holding them back. This is one of the main reasons why I started a comedy channel focusing on Islam and Muslims because there is such a dearth of honest satire on this subject.
And THIS is why the Regressive Left is poison. Islam NEEDS criticism, mockery, satire.

Come on, people, let's find some focus here. Let's focus on taking back the secular communities from the Regressive nutters. THIS is "why we fight". Not Peterson and his reactionary views, not Trump and his moronic ideas, not Southern and her videos on the Scary Black People.

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"it is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre"

Rivers of Blood.


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A real problem: Regressive, reactionary, conservative islam is still going strong in muslim communities, preventing modernization and secularization, encouraging a culture of impunity for rape and sexual assault, misogyny, homophobia, hatred for Jews, atheists, Ahmadi, Ba'hai, Shia (if Sunni) or Sunni (if Shia), and in general opposing change.

The Regressive Left: WAAAH! How can you judge those poor oppressed brown people! WAAAH! This is just their culture, they're not like us Evil Whites! WAAHH! Don't be a racist, islam is the religion of peace and of brown people who are ALWAYS peaceful except when us Evil Whites provoke them! WAAAH! I'm so much better than you! Hijabs are great and a symbol of The Resistance! FGM is just a cultural practice! ISIS isn't muslim!

The Alt-Right: FUCKING SAND NIGGERS TAKING OVER MY WHITE COUNTRY! GO BACK TO SAND NIGGERLAND OR WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM BEFORE YOUR PRESENCE RUINS MY COUNTRY! I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS ONLY TRUE WHITE MALES AND TRUE WHITE WOMEN IN HERE, SO ANY CHANGE IS A WHITE GENOCIDE! THERE'LL BE RIVERS OF BLOOD SOON IF WE DON'T GET ALL OF THEM TO LEAVE! RIVERS I TELL YOU!

Meanwhile, in the realm of rational attempts to deal with the problem:

https://media.giphy.com/media/2JUwr3tnfiQJa/giphy.gif

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feathers wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:14 am
MarcusAu wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:00 pm
YouTube has a version without the commentry - though I also haven't QA'd it yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nyZdi1atE
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?

Apparently McDarmid played Powell in a stage play a whiel back, which somehow qualified him
to do this impersonation. To be honest, don't think I need to hear the irritating impression of him or the commentary
in the programme. I'll make up my own mind. Here is the full transcript of the speech. Just the words:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/364 ... peech.html

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feathers wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:00 pm
YouTube has a version without the commentry - though I also haven't QA'd it yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0nyZdi1atE
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
You're right. He kind of sounds like a stroke victim whose brain hasn't quite readapted to making speech.

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Kirbmarc wrote: A real problem: Regressive, reactionary, conservative islam is still going strong in muslim communities, preventing modernization and secularization, encouraging a culture of impunity for rape and sexual assault, misogyny, homophobia, hatred for Jews, atheists, Ahmadi, Ba'hai, Shia (if Sunni) or Sunni (if Shia), and in general opposing change.

The Regressive Left: WAAAH! How can you judge those poor oppressed brown people! WAAAH! This is just their culture, they're not like us Evil Whites! WAAHH! Don't be a racist, islam is the religion of peace and of brown people who are ALWAYS peaceful except when us Evil Whites provoke them! WAAAH! I'm so much better than you! Hijabs are great and a symbol of The Resistance! FGM is just a cultural practice! ISIS isn't muslim!

The Alt-Right: FUCKING SAND NIGGERS TAKING OVER MY WHITE COUNTRY! GO BACK TO SAND NIGGERLAND OR WHEREVER YOU CAME FROM BEFORE YOUR PRESENCE RUINS MY COUNTRY! I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS ONLY TRUE WHITE MALES AND TRUE WHITE WOMEN IN HERE, SO ANY CHANGE IS A WHITE GENOCIDE! THERE'LL BE RIVERS OF BLOOD SOON IF WE DON'T GET ALL OF THEM TO LEAVE! RIVERS I TELL YOU!

Meanwhile, in the realm of rational attempts to deal with the problem:

https://media.giphy.com/media/2JUwr3tnfiQJa/giphy.gif
Quite. Powell never got to be play out his ethnonationalist fantasies on the British mainland but he found a natural home with the Ulster Unionists fucking up the peace process for as long as he could.

But before that he helped Labour get elected, ushering in the Seventies Golden Age of industrial relations.

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Please stop posting links to Pathos blogs. Sometimes, I can't resist the temptation. Then I become angry, and leave comments such as this one:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethough ... qus_thread

Now my morning is ruined !!!

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Barbie's Boyfriend wrote: Please stop posting links to Pathos blogs. Sometimes, I can't resist the temptation. Then I become angry, and leave comments such as this one:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethough ... qus_thread

Now my morning is ruined !!!
I used to listen to the FFRF podcast on a regular basis - but it became more than a bit repetitive - and seemed strangely out of sync with current issues. (Or maybe I just got tired of constant references to Yip Harlburg).

Annie Laurie Gaylor calls herself a feminist but does not acknowledge (let alone defend) the rise of third wave kind. After listening for a while it became predictable that her solution to just about any problem was to get rid of men and introduce more women. She might even be right in some instances - but I expect the analysis to be little deeper.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:38 am
feathers wrote:
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
Unfortunately Ozzy and Timothy Spall were both not available.
McDiarmid should've used his Emperor Palpatine voice.

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Shatterface wrote:
Quite. Powell never got to be play out his ethnonationalist fantasies on the British mainland but he found a natural home with the Ulster Unionists fucking up the peace process for as long as he could.

But before that he helped Labour get elected, ushering in the Seventies Golden Age of industrial relations.
So we can thank him for punk rock then?

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The Dankula story has even made it over to Canada.
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/christi ... hate-crime

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Standing up for British values?
Woman is viciously attacked on late night Tube train for speaking Spanish by two fellow passengers who told her she should 'talking English in England'

A woman was assaulted on a London Underground train by two passengers who said she should speak English.

The 24-year-old was attacked after speaking to friends in Spanish on a Central Line train from Liverpool Street to Stratford last week.

Two women heard her talking in Spanish and started shouting at her, saying she should 'speak English in England'.

They then took hold of her by the hair, injuring her scalp and leaving her with cuts to her face, British Transport Police said.

BTP described the incident, at 3.45am on Saturday, April 7, as a 'vicious and racially-motivated assault'.

The alleged attackers were described as black with braided hair, and believed to be in their late 20s.

One was wearing a brown jacket, while the other was wearing a black jacket.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... anish.html

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Shatterface wrote: Standing up for British values?
Woman is viciously attacked on late night Tube train for speaking Spanish by two fellow passengers who told her she should 'talking English in England'

A woman was assaulted on a London Underground train by two passengers who said she should speak English.

The 24-year-old was attacked after speaking to friends in Spanish on a Central Line train from Liverpool Street to Stratford last week.

Two women heard her talking in Spanish and started shouting at her, saying she should 'speak English in England'.

They then took hold of her by the hair, injuring her scalp and leaving her with cuts to her face, British Transport Police said.

BTP described the incident, at 3.45am on Saturday, April 7, as a 'vicious and racially-motivated assault'.

The alleged attackers were described as black with braided hair, and believed to be in their late 20s.

One was wearing a brown jacket, while the other was wearing a black jacket.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... anish.html
Oh wonderful. We've got black xenophobes in the UK. The world is truly screwed.

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katamari Damassi wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:38 am
feathers wrote:
Is McDermid such a godawful orator, or is this a deliberate attempt to take down Powell?
Unfortunately Ozzy and Timothy Spall were both not available.
McDiarmid should've used his Emperor Palpatine voice.
McDiarmid always uses his Emperor Palpatine voice. If he wanted to do a Powell voice he should have done an impression of Ken Livingstone having an asthma attack.

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Kirbmarc wrote: Oh wonderful. We've got black xenophobes in the UK. The world is truly screwed.
I blame Brexit.

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It's like feminists and transactivists. You start policing cultural boundaries and the next thing you know someone comes along and does it for you.

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Kirbmarc wrote: Oh wonderful. We've got black xenophobes in the UK. The world is truly screwed.
You can't be racist if you're black so surely you can't be xenophobic either.

(Rather sad that black Londoners think they speak English .. 'Innit bruv' :? )

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shoutinghorse wrote:
You can't be racist if you're black so surely you can't be xenophobic either.

(Rather sad that black Londoners think they speak English .. 'Innit bruv' :? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGt21q1AjuI

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Maybe it was Cheddar Man?

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Shatterface wrote: Standing up for British values?
Woman is viciously attacked on late night Tube train for speaking Spanish by two fellow passengers who told her she should 'talking English in England'

A woman was assaulted on a London Underground train by two passengers who said she should speak English.

The 24-year-old was attacked after speaking to friends in Spanish on a Central Line train from Liverpool Street to Stratford last week.

Two women heard her talking in Spanish and started shouting at her, saying she should 'speak English in England'.

They then took hold of her by the hair, injuring her scalp and leaving her with cuts to her face, British Transport Police said.

BTP described the incident, at 3.45am on Saturday, April 7, as a 'vicious and racially-motivated assault'.

The alleged attackers were described as black with braided hair, and believed to be in their late 20s.

One was wearing a brown jacket, while the other was wearing a black jacket.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... anish.html
Oh wonderful. We've got black xenophobes in the UK. The world is truly screwed.
This is super-established lol. A huge part of the skinhead movement was black, and the targets were pakistani. This always gets confused, possibly because american parlance has infiltrated to the point where we the difference is lost under the catch-all 'black' now.

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If they tried that 'Speak English!' stuff in LA there would be corpses everywhere - and it would still be the cops' fault.

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DrokkIt wrote: This is super-established lol. A huge part of the skinhead movement was black, and the targets were pakistani. This always gets confused, possibly because american parlance has infiltrated to the point where we the difference is lost under the catch-all 'black' now.
So what this means is that, once again, the American SocJus construct of "POC unity vs. White Supremacy" is just more bullshit which is only made tangentially relevant because of Republican vs. Democratic voting patterns, and not anything useful at all in sociology.

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Every social group can be racist/xenophobic/bigoted towards any other social group. Collective guilt, vigilante punishment, victimhood narratives, overgeneralizations, demonizations, assuming that an individual MUST have some characteristics as a member of group: these are the sources of social problems.

The whole "Whiteness/White Supremacy" model is only a consequence of the specific history of the US (Slavery, Jim Crow, One Drop Rule) and cannot be meaningfully applied to other nations. Also even in the US things are far more complex than the simplistic SocJus schemes.

Bullshit has infested American sociology.

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Kirbmarc wrote: Every social group can be racist/xenophobic/bigoted towards any other social group. Collective guilt, vigilante punishment, victimhood narratives, overgeneralizations, demonizations, assuming that an individual MUST have some characteristics as a member of group: these are the sources of social problems.
Especially when dealing with stinky gingers. Life in the Army has taught me that all gingers:

1) Cheat at cards.
2) Reek of piss, cheese and off milk.
3) Wank with their left hand.
4) Cannot be trusted.

As such, it is the holy duty of every normal person to root out the gwa's wherever they nest!

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I used to go a black club when I was a student, mainly because it was open all night. It was full of skins. The skins loved the music. They got on great with the black kids. They just hated Pakistanis. Just because someone is prejudiced against group X doesn't mean they are also prejudiced against group Y.

Likewise just because someone isn't prejudiced against group Y doesn't mean they aren't prejudiced against group Z. This is what's known as the Corbyn fallacy.

'Known as' meaning I just christened it.

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Italic fail.

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Post by shoutinghorse »

Bhurzum wrote: Especially when dealing with stinky gingers. Life in the Army has taught me that all gingers:

1) Cheat at cards.
2) Reek of piss, cheese and off milk.
3) Wank with their left hand.
4) Cannot be trusted.

As such, it is the holy duty of every normal person to root out the gwa's wherever they nest!
I concur.
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Ended up behind a Civic with Minnesota tags and a Minnesota Morris sticker in the back window down the street from the CDC today. The woman ended up pulling into a McDonald's.

Not really much to the story.

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Shatterface wrote: It's like feminists and transactivists. You start policing cultural boundaries and the next thing you know someone comes along and does it for you.

Do you embrace cultural relativism? Or maybe you legitimately have Asian or African preferences and are #wrongborn? Perhaps you are a ‘cultural apathetic’ happy to see which strands develop and which wither ....

If you do find value in what you had/have, is that value worth defending? How strongly? Or is any defence of binding cultural values ‘identity politics’? In which case we can return to the ‘cultural apathetic’ stance.

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A prominent US lawyer has died after setting himself on fire in a New York park in a protest against climate change.

The remains of David Buckel, 60, were found in Prospect Park in Brooklyn.

In a suicide note found nearby, Mr Buckel wrote that he had immolated himself using fossil fuel to symbolise what he said was the damage human beings were doing to the Earth.

He said most people now breathed bad air and many died prematurely.

Mr Buckel was well known for his legal work on behalf of gay, lesbian and transgender people and later worked with several environmental groups.

"Pollution ravages our planet, oozing inhabitability via air, soil, water and weather," the lawyer said in his suicide note, quoted by the New York Times. The note was also emailed to several news organisations shortly before his body was found, the newspaper said.

"My early death by fossil fuel reflects what we are doing to ourselves," he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43773650

Isn't it hypocritical to use a fossil fuel accelerant to protest the use of fossil fuel accelerants? He should have used some kind of vegetable oil or something.

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The point of your post that struck me as naive was the line that policing came as an equal and opposite reaction.

Life and history makes me think that policing will come whether it is looked for or not. As the eponymous white rooming lady discovered.

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Really? wrote:
A prominent US lawyer has died after setting himself on fire in a New York park in a protest against climate change.

The remains of David Buckel, 60, were found in Prospect Park in Brooklyn.

In a suicide note found nearby, Mr Buckel wrote that he had immolated himself using fossil fuel to symbolise what he said was the damage human beings were doing to the Earth.

He said most people now breathed bad air and many died prematurely.

Mr Buckel was well known for his legal work on behalf of gay, lesbian and transgender people and later worked with several environmental groups.

"Pollution ravages our planet, oozing inhabitability via air, soil, water and weather," the lawyer said in his suicide note, quoted by the New York Times. The note was also emailed to several news organisations shortly before his body was found, the newspaper said.

"My early death by fossil fuel reflects what we are doing to ourselves," he said.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43773650

Isn't it hypocritical to use a fossil fuel accelerant to protest the use of fossil fuel accelerants? He should have used some kind of vegetable oil or something.
He should have killed himself with solar power.

Sat himself under a giant magnifying glass or something.

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