There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[#32 Rat]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

[Keating]

Adelaide is Australia’s sad guilty secret. Please keep it that way.

WA is worse:

[CommanderTuvok]

Bleh, to many typos to correct previous post.

Stephen Pinker was on our local public radio station pushing his new book Enlightenment Now, so I tuned in. Sorry I did. The host is famously fatuous, not nearly as bright as he thinks he is and of course muffed the interview. He obviously hadn't read the book, and had no intention of doing even a modicum of research to ask intelligent questions. And of course I get a letter today because it's their fund drive. Haha

That reminds me of the Guardian's "while you here...." begging messages which follow all their shite articles, these days.

[JayTeeAitch]

Have they arrived in the past 20 years due to govt sponsored mass immigration designed to shift the demographics into a left aligned new status quo?

Now you've gone full InfoWars. Yeah, right, immigration wasn't the result of economic differences and migrants moving to a more economically promising place. No, it was a "Gummint Conzpirazy" to shift demographics to favor the left. :bjarte:

Paul Keating of Australia was perfectly clear that the role of immigration was to change Australia, so that Australian culture would be replaced with a more Asian one

http://www.keating.org.au/shop/item/aus ... april-1992

'Many things have changed and will change in Australia – our ethnic composition and, with it, our culture; our economic and industrial practices; our world view – a great deal will change.'

Some things'll never change:

Adelaide is Australia’s sad guilty secret. Please keep it that way.

What do you mean? I though it was fantastic - John Barnesesque timing.

[Tigzy]

That reminds me of the Guardian's "while you here...." begging messages which follow all their shite articles, these days.

Those messages have always been my favourite part of any Guardian article I've ever read. They always give me a warm feeling inside.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Still looks like a powder keg waiting to explode - as it has apparently done before. Interesting Gatestone Institute observations:

Macron Vows to Reform Islam in France
"It is time to bring in a new generation."

French President Emmanuel Macron, in a declared effort to "fight fundamentalism" and "preserve national cohesion," has promised to "lay the groundwork for the entire reorganization of Islam in France."

According to Macron, the plan, similar in ambition to Austria's Islam Law, is aimed at seeking to "better integrate" Islam in France in order to "place it in a more peaceful relationship with the state."

A key priority is to reduce outside interference by restricting foreign funding for mosques, imams and Muslim organizations in France. The plan's overall objective is to ensure that French law takes precedence over Islamic law for Muslims living in the country.

'Rots of 'ruck; pissing against the wind; dangerously fucking deluded.

I had my doubts about him, but I like what Macron is doing. Out of all the European leaders he seems the most pragmatic at the moment. Merkel and May could well learn a couple of things from the guy.

You seem to be very naive, lately.

[DrokkIt]

I know someone who teaches at Wilfrid Laurier and they are losing their shit over Faith Goldy.

This is being shared around, and I thought some of the nazi death-squad ethnostaters here in the pit might appreciate it:


autistic crying display

[MarcusAu]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

You rat!

Though I suppose they can all take turns.

[MarcusAu]

Bleh, to many typos to correct previous post.

Stephen Pinker was on our local public radio station pushing his new book Enlightenment Now, so I tuned in. Sorry I did. The host is famously fatuous, not nearly as bright as he thinks he is and of course muffed the interview. He obviously hadn't read the book, and had no intention of doing even a modicum of research to ask intelligent questions. And of course I get a letter today because it's their fund drive. Haha

That reminds me of the Guardian's "while you here...." begging messages which follow all their shite articles, these days.

Speaking of such things - I'm pretty sure that we will be hearing about a new fundraiser for a certain legal campaign any day now.

[shoutinghorse]

Here's something Lauren Southern didn't film.

[screwtape]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

You rat!

Two more today. I am enjoying this.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

[tweet][/tweet]
Perhaps there will soon be a Peterson derangement syndrome.

[katamari Damassi]

[tweet][/tweet]
Perhaps there will soon be a Peterson derangement syndrome.

The book explains his manspreading.

[HunnyBunny]

A moment's silence please, to remember an old friend, now quietly passed on:

https://i.imgur.com/ZgO9GDG.jpg

Oolon, a legend in his own mind.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180319235 ... mance.xyz/

[#32 Rat]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

You rat!

Two more today. I am enjoying this.

The anti rodentia of the Slymepit makes ahtiest/skeptic spaces unsafe. Someone should make an index post and bring this place down.

The best part of the Lauren Southern Paris video was her complaining on twitter that France was importing non English speakers.

[Really?]

A moment's silence please, to remember an old friend, now quietly passed on:

https://i.imgur.com/ZgO9GDG.jpg

Oolon, a legend in his own mind.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180319235 ... mance.xyz/

What does it say about me that I feared at first that he had died and was pleased he is still alive?

[CommanderTuvok]

A moment's silence please, to remember an old friend, now quietly passed on:

https://i.imgur.com/ZgO9GDG.jpg

Oolon, a legend in his own mind.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180319235 ... mance.xyz/

Nothing of value was lost.

[HunnyBunny]

This is the person who was to take on the burden of Blockbot and remake it as an alternate universe enabler for trannies. It appears she was too busy dissing white people to be bothered.

[AndrewV69]

The funniest part of the islam brouhaha is that the traditionalist, ethno-centric, Christianity sympathizing right is promoting Muslim reformers and ex muslims, like Maajaid Nawaz being published on Breitbart.

On the other hand the progressive, pro-LGBT, pro-women's rights is siding with reactionary, conservative, homophobic and misogynistic muslims. So you get idiocy like Judith Butler praising Hamas and Hezbollah as part of the global left, and a Honor Brigade, Saudi sympathizing, Muslim Brotherhood shill like Linda Sarsour leading the Women's March.

It's all backwards. The atheistic, secular, progressive left is praising theocratic, reactionary, regressive islam. The traditionalist and ethno-centric right is praising the Muslim and ed Muslim liberal reformers.

Up is down and down is up. All because of identity politics.

I am trying to stay out of it myself.

But when you find yourself as a brown person starting to emphasize with "white nationalists" you know something is rotten in the state of Denmark so as to speak. Never mind I have lots of white relatives myself.

We are not just talking about Lutefisk (which does not smell due to "modern" techniques BTW. If you want smelly and rotting fish I hear that Surströmming is what you want )

[HunnyBunny]

This is the person who was to take on the burden of Blockbot and remake it as an alternate universe enabler for trannies. It appears he was too busy dissing white people to be bothered.

Corrected for misgendering the bloke in a dress.

[fuzzy]

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... 89243e.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZgO9GDG.jpg

[Tigzy]

What does it say about me that I feared at first that he had died and was pleased he is still alive?

That you think fondly of better times, happier times, when Oolon was the lolcow overlord of them all, a sausage-skinned pinata to be poked and prodded for those sweet, sweet lulz. This was before the dark times, the drab times, as they are now. I too remember Oolon's vacant, inane grin beneath those piggy little eyes, swimming as he did in the assurance of his mastery over the rude and unsophisticated plebs by such means as doxxing himself, claiming to have downloaded kiddie porn and angering TERFs of such utter and malign vindictiveness that one particularly nasty specimen served legal papers on him at his place of work. His crowning achievement, of course, was his blockbot, a device which allowed other twitter users to censor what you see, and which was quickly rendered obsolete by other bots from such luminaries as Randi Harper - bots which would helpfully block things like KFC and Barack Obama and stuff. James' BB simply couldn't compete.

Last I heard he had gone to the battlegrounds of the TERF wars, and perhaps he fights there still, the porcine champion of balding, square-jawed women everywhere. But for us he is gone, rather like the smell of some ancient yet noxious fart which did actually make you laugh at the time.

[Lsuoma]

What does it say about me that I feared at first that he had died and was pleased he is still alive?

That you think fondly of better times, happier times, when Oolon was the lolcow overlord of them all, a sausage-skinned pinata to be poked and prodded for those sweet, sweet lulz. This was before the dark times, the drab times, as they are now. I too remember Oolon's vacant, inane grin beneath those piggy little eyes, swimming as he did in the assurance of his mastery over the rude and unsophisticated plebs by such means as doxxing himself, claiming to have downloaded kiddie porn and angering TERFs of such utter and malign vindictiveness that one particularly nasty specimen served legal papers on him at his place of work. His crowning achievement, of course, was his blockbot, a device which allowed other twitter users to censor what you see, and which was quickly rendered obsolete by other bots from such luminaries as Randi Harper - bots which would helpfully block things like KFC and Barack Obama and stuff. James' BB simply couldn't compete.

Last I heard he had gone to the battlegrounds of the TERF wars, and perhaps he fights there still, the porcine champion of balding, square-jawed women everywhere. But for us he is gone, rather like the smell of some ancient yet noxious fart which did actually make you laugh at the time.

This is what we need, so that we stop eating each other...

[Lsuoma]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

[Tigzy]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

Greg Laden's shining pate bobbed up momentarily from the lake of obscurity not so long ago. He made an ass of himself - in typical fashion - but regrettably, the flame of Laden's ineptitude blazed all too briefly. :(

Like Viz, SJWs just aren't as funny as they used to be.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

Greg Laden's shining pate bobbed up momentarily from the lake of obscurity not so long ago. He made an ass of himself - in typical fashion - but regrettably, the flame of Laden's ineptitude blazed all too briefly. :(

Like Viz, SJWs just aren't as funny as they used to be.

He posted at Meyers's blog under a weird name, asking why the site would only let him appear as some friend of his.

Well, I dunno Greg. Perhaps because you've been sockpuppeting at some point, and your browser is autofilling the puppet's information?

He's a fucking hilarious little man.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

This is the person who was to take on the burden of Blockbot and remake it as an alternate universe enabler for trannies. It appears he was too busy dissing white people to be bothered.

Corrected for misgendering the bloke in a dress.

Goddamn it, the last thing Seattle needs is more freaks. Racist freaks at that.

I really don't mind trannies, unless they get in my face. Live and let live. I don't care what they do to themselves as consenting adults. But it seems that it is all about transsexuals, all the time. News, Twitter and IRL. Agressive, unpleasant people viciously pushing an agenda. And mutilating children for a fad (and it sure seems to be) is a step way too far.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Europe has not been overly hostile to Hindus or Sikhs "colonising" parts of their cities in the past.

Outside England, you can throw a lot of stones before hitting one.

Speaking in a blunt sense, they haven't been a problem. In fact, given that the Telford paedo ring targeted Sikh girls, I imagine they are going to be joining up in the coming race war...

They were going to do that anyway, seeing as the Sikhs have a long history of war with islam,

[Shatterface]

I really don't mind trannies, unless they get in my face. Live and let live. I don't care what they do to themselves as consenting adults. But it seems that it is all about transsexuals, all the time. News, Twitter and IRL. Agressive, unpleasant people viciously pushing an agenda. And mutilating children for a fad (and it sure seems to be) is a step way too far.

5 years ago nobody would have expected man-hating bull-dykes would become the voice of sanity on gender issues.

[KiwiInOz]

Europe has not been overly hostile to Hindus or Sikhs "colonising" parts of their cities in the past.

Outside England, you can throw a lot of stones before hitting one.

Speaking in a blunt sense, they haven't been a problem. In fact, given that the Telford paedo ring targeted Sikh girls, I imagine they are going to be joining up in the coming race war...

Why do you think there is a Sikh chapter of the English Defence League? .

Weren't the original Sikhs a militant response to Islam in India?

[fuzzy]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

Let us spray.

[#32 Rat]

While perusing the TERF/Trap wars I found a video of the divine feminine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4AyVb6Boj0

How come their nutters have more talent than ours? All the SJW wing of atheism has are videos of talking potatoes.

[Guest_d2e60302]

If you're not familiar with the Amy Wax, professor of law at Penn situation:



But here is Glenn Loury's facebook posting. Really interesting argument, and highly principled.

[Really?]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

Let us spray.

Dr Carrier PhD will have his mouth wide open.

[free thoughtpolice]

I mean the resurrection of the Lolcows. Heck, PLEASE bring back A+Theism.

Let us spray.

:lol: Love the gifs.

[Brive1987]

What does it say about me that I feared at first that he had died and was pleased he is still alive?

That you think fondly of better times, happier times, when Oolon was the lolcow overlord of them all, a sausage-skinned pinata to be poked and prodded for those sweet, sweet lulz. This was before the dark times, the drab times, as they are now. I too remember Oolon's vacant, inane grin beneath those piggy little eyes, swimming as he did in the assurance of his mastery over the rude and unsophisticated plebs by such means as doxxing himself, claiming to have downloaded kiddie porn and angering TERFs of such utter and malign vindictiveness that one particularly nasty specimen served legal papers on him at his place of work. His crowning achievement, of course, was his blockbot, a device which allowed other twitter users to censor what you see, and which was quickly rendered obsolete by other bots from such luminaries as Randi Harper - bots which would helpfully block things like KFC and Barack Obama and stuff. James' BB simply couldn't compete.

Last I heard he had gone to the battlegrounds of the TERF wars, and perhaps he fights there still, the porcine champion of balding, square-jawed women everywhere. But for us he is gone, rather like the smell of some ancient yet noxious fart which did actually make you laugh at the time.

Oolon was a primary driver in burning Benson at the FtB stake (in tag team with Melby).

Ie he had his uses.

[Brive1987]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

I am appalled and disappointed that you’d suggest two wongs make a white.

[Brive1987]

What’s interesting is how their opposition is couched entirely in misleading identity labels. Her content or goals are not addressed.

Point 4 is just a dog whistle.



They also managed to squeeze two bullet points out of the one incident.

[Brive1987]

While the alt-right engages in positive activism, Rebecca Watson adjusts to her new life beyond the barricades.

[Brive1987]

Kirb, just to give you a worrying insight into my head. I had a full internal discussion about activism, the model espoused by the intersectional-left, the recent identitarian actions, the A/S SJW flavour and Rebecca Watson’s cunty version.

But the above was all I felt was required - but I believe the full dialog is implicit in my post.

[Brive1987]

Note to elevator guy. Dry humping Watson is not rape.

Carry on.

[#32 Rat]

If Jordan Peterson can no platform Faith Goldy, why can't Wilfrid Laurier?

I am appalled and disappointed that you’d suggest two wongs make a white.

Gad Saad was involved too. Your girl is popular is all I'm saying. Lauren is the savvy one. I support your dream that Faith can peak again though.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

While the alt-right engages in positive activism, Rebecca Watson adjusts to her new life beyond the barricades.

Some people are too immature to have a pet. Watson again shows her entitled cuntiness.

[Really?]

While the alt-right engages in positive activism, Rebecca Watson adjusts to her new life beyond the barricades.

It is valuable to know the boundaries: fuck without condoms with no recourse. If your dogs get pregnant for some reason beyond biology, well, could Rocky beat Xinnia. Biology means nothing. Lock up your garbage cans.

[Service Dog]

[tweet][/tweet]
Perhaps there will soon be a Peterson derangement syndrome.

"It Happened to Me: My Controlling Hippie Roommate Had a Violent Breakdown
I moved in with an eco-friendly hippie, and he ended up trying to control my life and spiraling into a hallucinogen-based mental breakdown.

BECCA-SCHUH NOVEMBER 10, 2014

I used to identify as a hippie. Not a flower child of the ’70s, but the modern variation: eating organic, doing yoga, dabbling in psychedelic drugs, and rarely showering.

I went to a small experimental program in college. We didn't get grades and walked around barefoot. Thus when I needed a place to live, the ad on Craigslist titled “Eco-friendly hippie house,” seemed like a good fit. It talked about composting, a vegetable garden, "being 420 friendly," yoga, and hosting gatherings. Jacques* and I spoke on the phone the next morning and he invited me to come over immediately.

The door was open, so I walked tentatively inside and was greeted by the sight of two men in the living room standing on a table, one beating his chest and the other one doing strange yoga poses. The yoga man snapped his eyes open and came bounding over to me.

“Hello, you must be Becca. I am Jacques, with whom you spoke earlier today. This is our community space. Once someone moves in, perhaps you, I will be vacating the bedroom to live in a tent in the backyard to escape the trappings of modernity.” He had not been this ridiculous on the phone.

We looked at the room -- it wasn't huge, but included a bed, desk and dresser. Convenient, since I didn't have any furniture or money to purchase it. It even had a walk-in closet. My eyes widened, but I said nothing -- I could tell that Jacques might not approve of my excessive collection of floral print dresses and distressed jean shorts.

Jacques was most excited about showing off the backyard. “This is my magnum opus, the garden.” Although the plants didn't seem entirely alive, the garden was impressive. It was at least six plots, accompanied by some large green bags.

“What are those?” I asked.

“Gavin, the other roommate, grows algae.”

Of course he does, I thought to myself . . . "

https://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-m ... -breakdown

[Service Dog]

BECCA SCHUH
https://i.imgur.com/qR1tK5w.jpg

[Guest_d2e60302]

[Steersman]

Kirb, just to give you a worrying insight into my head. I had a full internal discussion about activism, the model espoused by the intersectional-left, the recent identitarian actions, the A/S SJW flavour and Rebecca Watson’s cunty version.

But the above was all I felt was required - but I believe the full dialog is implicit in my post.

LoL - nice to have the subtext to a comment ... ;-)

But, just out of curiosity, relative to the individuals that Lauren was apparently focusing on in that Paris streets video, what would you say your objections to them might be? Not singing La Marseillaise with gusto? Not taking part in cafe culture? Not naming their sons Napoleon? Maybe their religion? Or maybe it was their skin colour?

[Brive1987]

Kirb, just to give you a worrying insight into my head. I had a full internal discussion about activism, the model espoused by the intersectional-left, the recent identitarian actions, the A/S SJW flavour and Rebecca Watson’s cunty version.

But the above was all I felt was required - but I believe the full dialog is implicit in my post.

LoL - nice to have the subtext to a comment ... ;-)

But, just out of curiosity, relative to the individuals that Lauren was apparently focusing on in that Paris streets video, what would you say your objections to them might be? Not singing La Marseillaise with gusto? Not taking part in cafe culture? Not naming their sons Napoleon? Maybe their religion? Or maybe it was their skin colour?

Don’t be a pickle. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that streetscape or the people in it.

.....

Except it was in Paris. At some point the penny will drop that the racist-Nazi, nationalist and identitarian worlds are seperate circles - albeit forming a Venn diagram.

[Kirbmarc]

Questions don’t answer themselves.

Give me time. I'm busy now, I'll get back to you in three to four hours.

Mine first.

I already answered to your question. It was based on a misunderstanding of what I was talking about.

Now FT has been schooled, can I take his slot?

This lecturer wants to ban Goldy from speaking at his Uni because she is filling the pipes laid for Nazism with vile fluid.

Here is his open letter.


Do you agree that his students should be protected from the Uni’s implicit support of Frau Faith?

(Nb the trick in that formulation)

This is another matter.

It's one thing to not agree with someone and think their ideas are vile.

It's another to want them censored or no-platformed.

Goldy was regularly invited to give a speech/take part in a debate-discussion. Trying to prevent her from speaking is highly illiberal.

I don't have to agree with her to respect her rights.

[Brive1987]

So you don’t agree that it can be counched as a a Uni-endorsed-harassment issue. That’s good.

[Kirbmarc]

So you don’t agree that it can be counched as a a Uni-endorsed-harassment issue. That’s good.

I don't think I've ever written anything that could suggest that I support SocJus memes like "speech is harassment".

Also I have replied to your questions. You apparently skipped a post. Go back and check.

[Brive1987]

“The Ultimate Question” promised me 2 min feedback responses. But Kirb you are veering on 24 hrs.

From 0-10, how would you endorse the migrant approach and outcomes in Paris for a Swiss candidate city?

Because unless you are a net promoter, I think you need to extend Southern charity for highlighting an agreed issue.

[Brive1987]

Ahh. I will. If this Board was worth anything it would have a notification feature.

[Steersman]

Kirb, just to give you a worrying insight into my head. I had a full internal discussion about activism, the model espoused by the intersectional-left, the recent identitarian actions, the A/S SJW flavour and Rebecca Watson’s cunty version.

But the above was all I felt was required - but I believe the full dialog is implicit in my post.

LoL - nice to have the subtext to a comment ... ;-)

But, just out of curiosity, relative to the individuals that Lauren was apparently focusing on in that Paris streets video, what would you say your objections to them might be? Not singing La Marseillaise with gusto? Not taking part in cafe culture? Not naming their sons Napoleon? Maybe their religion? Or maybe it was their skin colour?

Don’t be a pickle. There was absolutely nothing wrong with that streetscape or the people in it.

.....

Except it was in Paris. At some point the penny will drop that the racist-Nazi, nationalist and identitarian worlds are seperate circles - albeit forming a Venn diagram.

You presumably think you've answered the question but it looks like you're just evading it. Why were those people "wrong" for Paris?

[Steersman]

Ahh. I will. If this Board was worth anything it would have a notification feature.

Think it used to have one, although I didn't think it worked very well - should have included notifications for direct responses (quoted comments).

[Brive1987]

It amuses me that Kirb was going to sue Aneris because zir called him a Nazi. :lol: Diversity is the Pits strength.

Speaking of which I will be very sorry if Kirb spits his dummy. And guilty. I may be accused of helping to chase Vicky away because she was a Nazi but then chasing Kirb away ... because I’m a Nazi.

You're not a Nazi. You are, however, and by your own admission, an ethno-nationalist. Also I'm not going anywhere.

Was Lauren pointing out in her video disgusting black poisoned blood or was she questioning the ROI in transplanting a non conforming culture into Paris suburbs?

False dichotomy.

What I argued, and what is plain to see from the video, is that Southern was clearly supporting a race-based view of the problems of immigration. It was all about who those people WERE and what they LOOKED like, not what they DID. Because what they DID was just being there, walking around. And the point of the video was that just by being THERE, in France, they were causing the end of France.

As I've written there's ZERO indication in the video that it's about a cultural problem of assimilation. There's no anti-French act recorded, no anti-French opinion given. Not even people with cards saying that they don't like something about France. It's quite clearly all about ethnicity, to argue otherwise is disingenuous.

Consider this: a black South African woman goes around Johannesburg, filming white people, and makes a video about how dreadful it is that there are so many white people around in country called South Africa. And those whites don't even assimilate to African culture, look at all of them walking in jeans and T-shirts or business suits and not even of them is wearing traditional African clothing. If they're allowed in Africa then Africa isn't going to be Africa anymore :bjarte:

Would you consider that a race-based narrative which, in the context of growing racial tension in South Africa, is more than a little irresponsible? Or simply a high-minded denunciation of the evils of colonialism?

Or, if we want to go deeper into history, imagine a German woman filming Orthodox Jews in 1930 Germany and pointing out how those people didn't integrate at all. I mean, just look at how they dress. If we allow more Jews from Poland to come in, soon Germany won't be Germany anymore :bjarte:

Assuming the latter, on a scale of 0 to 10, how likely would you be to recommend the Paris approach & outcome to a Swiss city? (Where 10 is very likely and 0 is not at all). What is the main reason for your response?

This is a big red herring.

The video is descriptive of a situation that already exists in France. A situation that is described as an existential threat to France on the basis of the visible ethnicity of people walking around.

If want to talk about how France made some mistakes about integration, and how Switzerland did it better, then I'm all for a discussion about those themes. But in the context of the point I was making about the Southern video your question is simply a distraction.

1. South Africa is a bad pick. The whites aren’t recent economic migrants. The demographics are a complex historical mix of Dutch pushing north and blacks fleeing south. The modern country is also a white construct, if executed on the back of cheap labour. Not to mention the large scale black economic migration from shit hole countries to somewhere with a prospect of work and (until recently) better life expectancy. The Nazi pitch is equally ridiculous. If Jews were (and they weren’t) steaming in looking for greener grass and then not assimilating and perhaps stoning a few frau-limas well yes. Questions would need to be asked about what the fuck the plan was. Nice though playing the Holocaust card.

I see you mix and match race and ethnicity. Which is fine I guess, except a focus on individuals and race is a poisoning of the well. As I said to Steers, the video demonstrated an overall environment alien to the host culture, and one clearly resisting integration. One, the implicit text goes, that can rise on occasion to murderous decoupling on top of the standard non integrationary issues like car burnings et al. But fundamentally it is an alien culture, out of its place.

2. Nice try, but no. Either there is a problem in Paris or there isn’t. If there is a problem it deserves to be documented, quantified, questions should be asked, solutions canvassed and lessons learnt. You won’t get that from the lib-left. If there isn’t an issue then make that case and Southern can decamp.

Your lack of charity in discerning Southerns motives is worth considering. Especially as I have been reliably informed she is something called an “alt-lite mud-shark”.

.......

My apologies for missing your reply.

[Brive1987]

You presumably think you've answered the question but it looks like you're just evading it. Why were those people "wrong" for Paris?
[/quote]

A case can be made that they form an economic and cultural collective inimical to the host culture. No individual in that video is personally at fault.

[Brive1987]

Now I’m not necessarily saying in detail how far that line can be pushed. Clearly Paris/France has fucked up its immigration plans. Clearly that hasn’t become their strength. What that means in terms of action and future strategy needs contemplation. But Southerns video simply point this out and then apparently she gave her POV. Blowing the “racist” horn for the vid is SJ level nuance.

[Steersman]

You presumably think you've answered the question but it looks like you're just evading it. Why were those people "wrong" for Paris?

A case can be made that they form an economic and cultural collective inimical to the host culture. No individual in that video is personally at fault.

And pigs can be made to fly - in a high enough wind.

Don't see that you or Southern have actually made that case, or even attempted it - just a bit of hand waving and "my culture!!!11!!"

To even suggest those individuals comprise a "collective inimical" to France, you at least have to allude to some attribute common to all, or at least a large percentage, of them. Otherwise ....

Though I'd readily concede or argue that there probably is such an attribute, but you're not likely to rectify the problem unless you're prepared to identify it and show how it is "inimical". Which neither you nor Southern have made the least stab at.