There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[Eskarina]

The skeptics forum confirms that they're real, but likely a niche product:

They do exist (the shop is here; they have two different models), but are likely not bought in huge numbers.

Focus - a more or less reliable German news magazine - had an article about this in January 2017. They in turn name this WAZ article as source.

Note: the links to Focus and WAZ are in German. Also personally I wouldn't describe Focus as reliable, they're more or less like Buzzfeed or other online collections of factoids.

A passage from the WAZ article, and a translation into English:

"Anfangs wurde nur eine Kleinserie mit 150 Hosen produziert. Diese waren schnell vergriffen", sagt Seilz. Jetzt würden größere Stückzahlen produziert. Nachdem in der ersten Kalenderwoche dieses Jahres Anfragen für rund 250 Hosen kamen, hat die Unternehmerin jetzt bei der Produktion 5000 Hosen in Auftrag gegeben.

My translation: "Initially only a limited series of 150 pants was produced. These products were quickly sold out." says Seilz [Sandra Seilz, the "Safe Short" creator] Now they will produce a larger quantity of items. After getting 250 new orders for the pants in the first week of this years, the entrepreneur has commissioned the production of 5000 more pants".

These look like very small numbers. The 5000 production is likely very optimistic, considering that the pants aren't doing very well on social media, their Facebook page is liked by 291 people and has been shared by 297 people. For a comparison the Facebook page of an online podcast about Indiana Jones movies that one of the my friends records has 314 likes and 323 shares.

TL;DR: the "anti-rape pants" exist, but they're a very niche item, not exactly sold in mainstream clothes shops.

Thanks for the research, Kirbmarc. :)

I think they are pretty useless, anyway. Any pocket-alarm or maybe even a whistle would do the same job. But I'm sure it sells well to a certain clientel over here. :roll:

[John D]

WWII history buffs... please watch these.

[MarcusAu]

Thanks for the research, Kirbmarc. :)

I think they are pretty useless, anyway. Any pocket-alarm or maybe even a whistle would do the same job. But I'm sure it sells well to a certain clientel over here. :roll:

Couldn't you just shit yourself before leaving the house?

[DrokkIt]

H2

I would say the problem is not the police seeing as this case has been going on for 40 years. I dare say in the 70s there woud have been plenty of coppers happy to dole out some restorative justice to non-white and non-christian child abusers, so I don't see how the police can be blamed here.

Specific cases I'm aware of featured investigations which drew the conclusion that police forces were afraid to deal with the situation for fear of accusations of racism. Certainly that was the finding in the case close to me, and in Rotherham.

[Brive1987]

She’s out.

“Local communities” - we have new code words courtesy of the British Govt

[feathers]

Jen is easy to overlook, since she quit early, but she was a shrieking diva. She was the one who fingered Krauss initially.

Jebus Ape, some thoughts cannnot be un-thought! :shock:

The article doesn't mention it (probably because it undercuts her credibility), but she also called out Bill Nye at the same time. And she publicly charged Dawkins with "singlehandedly destroying the atheist movement" with Dear Muslima.

She was, of course, the godmother of Atheism Plus. Was probably the first FtBer to call PZ an "asshole" on her blog (she pitched a fit when he "pharyngulated" a reader survey she set up). She got on Rebecca Watson's case for using LOLcats in a presentation about rape. Had a big public spat with JT Eberhard about some unarticulated monstrosity he'd done. And had this weird thing about using Twitter to call out street strangers she thought were ogling her.

She was a strange, tight-wired chick whose smartest move was to leave early.

I didn't know that, that sure makes her a contender- especially that cold-hearted tweet.

But for manipulating others to do her bidding, I think Watson is still in the race. I've never noticed much empathy in her either.

[shoutinghorse]

She’s out.

“Local communities” - we have new code words courtesy of the British Govt

Look who's in charge

https://i.imgur.com/1zI3ZsT.jpg

And look at what might yet come.

https://i.imgur.com/jAiIqaa.jpg


My country is fucked :suimouth:

[Brive1987]

How sweet. They had a choir waiting.




Interesting concept. I am appalled that they were 1984ed but I would have no qualms cock blocking a radical cleric.

Which suggests the concept of “free speech” and “freedom” is predicated on these privileges operating within an established western contract. It is not implicit that these virtues have the job of protecting alien ideologies seeking to use freedoms to replace the host culture.

I guess this is where the liberal rainbow coloured fart-bubbles pop against the windscreen of pragmatism.

That said. I’m looking forward to the CCTV of Brittany being broomhandled.

[BoxNDox]

Is that a Bene Gesserit witch in the background of the R/H image?

I think it's a pinhead cenobite.

Robot in Star Trek TMP.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

H2

I would say the problem is not the police seeing as this case has been going on for 40 years. I dare say in the 70s there woud have been plenty of coppers happy to dole out some restorative justice to non-white and non-christian child abusers, so I don't see how the police can be blamed here.

Specific cases I'm aware of featured investigations which drew the conclusion that police forces were afraid to deal with the situation for fear of accusations of racism. Certainly that was the finding in the case close to me, and in Rotherham.

Absolutely, I'm sure it is happening now that the police are fearful of thoroughyl investigating these cases. Just not in the case reported in the Mail today. But I totally admit I am not up to speed on all the many cases of taxi drivers and pizza shop workers currently exercising their rights to cultural expression within pre-teenage vaginas in Britain.

[DrokkIt]

H2

I would say the problem is not the police seeing as this case has been going on for 40 years. I dare say in the 70s there woud have been plenty of coppers happy to dole out some restorative justice to non-white and non-christian child abusers, so I don't see how the police can be blamed here.

Specific cases I'm aware of featured investigations which drew the conclusion that police forces were afraid to deal with the situation for fear of accusations of racism. Certainly that was the finding in the case close to me, and in Rotherham.

Absolutely, I'm sure it is happening now that the police are fearful of thoroughyl investigating these cases. Just not in the case reported in the Mail today. But I totally admit I am not up to speed on all the many cases of taxi drivers and pizza shop workers currently exercising their rights to cultural expression within pre-teenage vaginas in Britain.

Oh right I see what you mean- I was just making a general observation about the state of it atm. I really didn't want to buy into the "police are ignoring muslim crime" narrative because it sounds so reactionary, but it really seems to be the case.

[Bhurzum]

Is that a Bene Gesserit witch in the background of the R/H image?

I think it's a pinhead cenobite.

Robot in Star Trek TMP.

https://i.imgur.com/QU4tnva.png

[shoutinghorse]

Oh right I see what you mean- I was just making a general observation about the state of it atm. I really didn't want to buy into the "police are ignoring muslim crime" narrative because it sounds so reactionary, but it really seems to be the case.

It is the case, there are also witness accusations (although uncorroborated) of police compliance in some of the cases that go back years, this has been happening in towns and cities up and down the country and a very common denominator appears to be Labour run councils in these areas, vast majority anyway. As was seen in the recent BBC mini series 'Three Girls' about the Rochdale Pakistani rape gang.
They didn't want to know, they were afraid of being labelled racists not only by the Muslim community but also by (Labour) council run social services, it was easier for them to turn a blind eye.

This from wikipedia description of the TV mini series

Sara Rowbotham (Maxine Peake), who became the main whistleblower who drew attention to the case after repeated pleas for help from social services and the police fell on deaf ears.

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

[MarcusAu]

How sweet. They had a choir waiting.

<twat vid excised>


Interesting concept. I am appalled that they were 1984ed but I would have no qualms cock blocking a radical cleric.

Which suggests the concept of “free speech” and “freedom” is predicated on these privileges operating within an established western contract. It is not implicit that these virtues have the job of protecting alien ideologies seeking to use freedoms to replace the host culture.

I guess this is where the liberal rainbow coloured fart-bubbles pop against the windscreen of pragmatism.

That said. I’m looking forward to the CCTV of Brittany being broomhandled.

If Communists, National Socialists, the KKK and other hostile groups have their rights - then the same applies to others - eg extremist Imans.

As it stands governments have already assigned themselves the power to censor - and you can see how well that has worked out.

[Kirbmarc]

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

This baffles me, since "Asian rape gangs" is actually a reference to race. In what world is "muslim rape gang" more racist than "Asian rape gang"?

Unless of course the problem isn't racism, but the reaction of the "muslim community leaders".

[DrokkIt]

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

This baffles me, since "Asian rape gangs" is actually a reference to race. In what world is "muslim rape gang" more racist than "Asian rape gang"?

Unless of course the problem isn't racism, but the reaction of the "muslim community leaders".

Even though it stinks of conspiracyism, there is a narrative that the Blair government increased middle-eastern immigration so much because they perceive that "these groups will vote labour". SO I suppose once you have handed so much power to these communities then you can't be waiving shite in their faces. So lame.

[CommanderTuvok]

Oh right I see what you mean- I was just making a general observation about the state of it atm. I really didn't want to buy into the "police are ignoring muslim crime" narrative because it sounds so reactionary, but it really seems to be the case.

It is the case, there are also witness accusations (although uncorroborated) of police compliance in some of the cases that go back years, this has been happening in towns and cities up and down the country and a very common denominator appears to be Labour run councils in these areas, vast majority anyway. As was seen in the recent BBC mini series 'Three Girls' about the Rochdale Pakistani rape gang.
They didn't want to know, they were afraid of being labelled racists not only by the Muslim community but also by (Labour) council run social services, it was easier for them to turn a blind eye.

This from wikipedia description of the TV mini series

Sara Rowbotham (Maxine Peake), who became the main whistleblower who drew attention to the case after repeated pleas for help from social services and the police fell on deaf ears.

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

The thing that gets on The Commander's Vulcan tits is that the situation where the police ignored what was happening for fear of being called "racist" is what non-SJWs call "political correctness".

However, SJWs state political correctness is "good manners" or "being nice to people". The dub fuckers.

[shoutinghorse]

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

This baffles me, since "Asian rape gangs" is actually a reference to race. In what world is "muslim rape gang" more racist than "Asian rape gang"?

Unless of course the problem isn't racism, but the reaction of the "muslim community leaders".

If you're a politician and you criticise Islam in the UK, within 10 mins someone will chastise you all over social media as an 'Islamophobe' 'Bigot' 'Racist' 'Nazi' and that's often from your own side. Look how Anne Marie Walters was treated by UKIP's inner circle when she ran as leader on a 'critical of Islam' ticket. Farage called her and her followers 'Neo Nazis' who have no place in the party.

[Hunt]

I am really getting sick of women in general.

They are kind of a pain in the ass, aren't they.

[ffs]

I am really getting sick of women in general.

They are kind of a pain in the ass, aren't they.

well then slow down with all the pegging

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Thanks for the research, Kirbmarc. :)

I think they are pretty useless, anyway. Any pocket-alarm or maybe even a whistle would do the same job. But I'm sure it sells well to a certain clientel over here. :roll:

Couldn't you just shit yourself before leaving the house?

Then you might smell like a goat and you'd be done for.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

I am really getting sick of women in general.

They are kind of a pain in the ass, aren't they.

Eh, I'm fine with most of the women in my life. Wife is very reasonable, all about equality and not feminism. My daughters don't harbor any delusions about their gender and fiercely defend their brothers. We have great discussions, although my kids tend to skew more conservative than I am.

My relative complacency is ruined the second I set foot on my eldest daughter's campus. SJW signalling everywhere, enforced conformity and general idiocy. Her American Government prof openly discrimates against non-marxist liberals, really everybody to the right of Mao. Her Argumentation and Persuasive writing class is a joke. They are not being taught anything close to writing, just attempted to be indoctrinated into the regressive left. My daughter observes that it is only preaching to the choir and is turning off most of the students with a brain.

Facebook is another source of despair, as my friends and extended family either go lefty-loon or full Trumpette. Or like me they simply go dark and hope the madness ends. There is no live and let live anymore, lines have been drawn and you must pick a side. Fuck that.

[Really?]

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

This baffles me, since "Asian rape gangs" is actually a reference to race. In what world is "muslim rape gang" more racist than "Asian rape gang"?

Unless of course the problem isn't racism, but the reaction of the "muslim community leaders".

I believe the current PC term is "Oriental street gang."

[Lsuoma]

I am really getting sick of women in general.

They are kind of a pain in the ass, aren't they.

Eh, I'm fine with most of the women in my life. Wife is very reasonable, all about equality and not feminism. My daughters don't harbor any delusions about their gender and fiercely defend their brothers. We have great discussions, although my kids tend to skew more conservative than I am.

My relative complacency is ruined the second I set foot on my eldest daughter's campus. SJW signalling everywhere, enforced conformity and general idiocy. Her American Government prof openly discrimates against non-marxist liberals, really everybody to the right of Mao. Her Argumentation and Persuasive writing class is a joke. They are not being taught anything close to writing, just attempted to be indoctrinated into the regressive left. My daughter observes that it is only preaching to the choir and is turning off most of the students with a brain.

Facebook is another source of despair, as my friends and extended family either go lefty-loon or full Trumpette. Or like me they simply go dark and hope the madness ends. There is no live and let live anymore, lines have been drawn and you must pick a side. Fuck that.

Things are turning SJWish at Amazon, which pisses me off. It's nowhere near as bad as Google (assuming the Damore complaint is accurate), but I'm worried it will be.

I did have fun, though, watching the cucks virtue signalling over the Damore stuff.

Still, I'm retiring in around five years, and they can all continue to suck on my shriveled pismire.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

I can't imagine that any business going full SJW will survive long. I'm hoping Amazon and Google wise up before realizing that shrieking virtue-signalling isn't good for business. If you hire a bunch of Zoe Quinn or Randy Harper types for your coding team, count on utter destruction of your business.

Does anybody know of any SJW types that are good at STEM stuff? I recall Dogen mentioned one, but they seem rarer than hen's teeth.

[Easy J]

The Audible site was virtue signalling hard a few days ago when I was re-upping for the road. Women's history month stuff all over & an ad with some old dude imploring me to "decolonize" my book collection or something.

[Keating]

The construction in Sydney looks almost as bad as Canberra.

The weirdo proportion in the CBD seems higher as well.

[Lsuoma]

Ken Died dodd, er, I mean Ken Dodd died.

[Shatterface]

I believe the current PC term is "Oriental street gang."

[Shatterface]

Ken Died dodd, er, I mean Ken Dodd died.

Diddy?

[Shatterface]

I can't imagine that any business going full SJW will survive long. I'm hoping Amazon and Google wise up before realizing that shrieking virtue-signalling isn't good for business. If you hire a bunch of Zoe Quinn or Randy Harper types for your coding team, count on utter destruction of your business.

Does anybody know of any SJW types that are good at STEM stuff? I recall Dogen mentioned one, but they seem rarer than hen's teeth.

None of them go SJW until they are a virtual monopoly. SJWs can't compete in the market place.

Virtual signalling by hiring incompetents to do unnecessary jobs is cheaper than paying tax.

[Guest_a58be784]

Ken Died dodd, er, I mean Ken Dodd died.

Diddy?

:D :clap:

What a lovely day, ladies and gentlemen. What a lovely day for a large volume pleural effusion, secondary to a pneumococcal infection, to inhibit cardiac function sufficiently to cause acute heart failure and death.

[Shatterface]

I pass this rather scary statue of Ken Dodd at Lime Street Station most days:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1316/5157 ... eac1_b.jpg

For the benefit of those who don't know who he is, I should point out he's holding a tickling stick, not a kebab.

[Shatterface]

Ken Died dodd, er, I mean Ken Dodd died.

Diddy?

:D :clap:

I've been waiting 40 years to use that joke.

It was worth it.

[Brive1987]

How sweet. They had a choir waiting.

<twat vid excised>

Ahh. But KKK et al are

Interesting concept. I am appalled that they were 1984ed but I would have no qualms cock blocking a radical cleric.

Which suggests the concept of “free speech” and “freedom” is predicated on these privileges operating within an established western contract. It is not implicit that these virtues have the job of protecting alien ideologies seeking to use freedoms to replace the host culture.

I guess this is where the liberal rainbow coloured fart-bubbles pop against the windscreen of pragmatism.

That said. I’m looking forward to the CCTV of Brittany being broomhandled.

If Communists, National Socialists, the KKK and other hostile groups have their rights - then the same applies to others - eg extremist Imans.

As it stands governments have already assigned themselves the power to censor - and you can see how well that has worked out.

Ahh but KKK and NS are family delinquents. The Imans are bastards from next door, not even related by marriage. The concept of house rules is clear. As is the distinction between mad uncles and random insane hobos demanding adoption with one way respect.

[Old_ones]

Since we're speaking of older/mad-as-a-sack-of-cats metal music, ever hear any early Sabbat? The album "Dreamweaver" is an absolute classic! Sadly, they never really made it big (could be wrong about this, remember - not a fan) but their early music was brutal as fuck!



Perfect music to run/hit the stack to although it tends to push you to breaking point... :lol:

I've never heard of this band or this album. Just picked the album up and I'm listening now. So far, I like what I'm hearing. :character-beavisbutthead:

I don't know your opinion on death metal, but if you are into it and haven't heard The Rack by Asphyx, that might be up your alley. Its raw, barbaric and unrelenting: maybe a little less nuanced than either of these other albums we are talking about, though.

[Brive1987]

What do you think would happen if Australia (or Britain for that matter), held a plebiscite to set immigration rates?

How goes endlessly self-perpetuating, income stymieing, high density population based “growth” from the third world?

Despite the inevitable outcome, said vote will never happen and immigration based economies remain an un-negotiable bipartisan policy. Which is an interesting conundrum in a liberal democracy. Ultimately the point will be moot.

On another topic altogether .....

[Guest_d2e60302]

I can't imagine that any business going full SJW will survive long. I'm hoping Amazon and Google wise up before realizing that shrieking virtue-signalling isn't good for business. If you hire a bunch of Zoe Quinn or Randy Harper types for your coding team, count on utter destruction of your business.

Does anybody know of any SJW types that are good at STEM stuff? I recall Dogen mentioned one, but they seem rarer than hen's teeth.

None of them go SJW until they are a virtual monopoly. SJWs can't compete in the market place.

Virtual signalling by hiring incompetents to do unnecessary jobs is cheaper than paying tax.

I don't think that first sentence is true but I think your second sentence is correct, it's cheaper to enable the social justice than to fight it, and by the time the company is big enough to matter it's filled with professional managers and executives who don't actually care about the company financial results.

Part of the problem is that the aims of social justice are very appealing, so it doesn't require a monopoly anywhere. It does require a combination of HR takeover by gender warriors, but that's a given since 90% of HR is women with no useful degree, plus it requires Legal telling you that having diversity programs and diversity hires are a shield for lawsuits, and it requires outside pressure from press, to all the various female empowerment organizations, all the rah rah girls who code, bad bad barbie dolls, pink used to be a boy's color, girls can math better than boys except for patriarchy, all that stuff talking into the ears of the executives and managers.

[Brive1987]

His wild heart beats with painful sobs,
His strin’d hands clench an ice-cold keyboard,
His aching jaws grip a hot parch’d tongue,
His wide eyes search unconsciously.

He cannot shriek.

Bloody saliva
Dribbles down his shapeless jacket.

I saw him tweet
And tweet again
A well-@‘ed deplorable.

This is the happy liberal,
This is he…

[free thoughtpolice]

I am really getting sick of women in general.

They are kind of a pain in the ass, aren't they.

Eh, I'm fine with most of the women in my life. Wife is very reasonable, all about equality and not feminism. My daughters don't harbor any delusions about their gender and fiercely defend their brothers. We have great discussions, although my kids tend to skew more conservative than I am.

My relative complacency is ruined the second I set foot on my eldest daughter's campus. SJW signalling everywhere, enforced conformity and general idiocy. Her American Government prof openly discrimates against non-marxist liberals, really everybody to the right of Mao. Her Argumentation and Persuasive writing class is a joke. They are not being taught anything close to writing, just attempted to be indoctrinated into the regressive left. My daughter observes that it is only preaching to the choir and is turning off most of the students with a brain.

Facebook is another source of despair, as my friends and extended family either go lefty-loon or full Trumpette. Or like me they simply go dark and hope the madness ends. There is no live and let live anymore, lines have been drawn and you must pick a side. Fuck that.

Things are turning SJWish at Amazon, which pisses me off. It's nowhere near as bad as Google (assuming the Damore complaint is accurate), but I'm worried it will be.

I did have fun, though, watching the cucks virtue signalling over the Damore stuff.

Still, I'm retiring in around five years, and they can all continue to suck on my shriveled pismire.

Alexa: What is the punishment for work units that display troublesome amounts of rebellious behavior?

[Steersman]

Certainly not a "burgeoning market".

Indeed. Though that was kind of the point of the quote marks ...

[Steersman]

His wild heart beats with painful sobs,
His strin’d hands clench an ice-cold keyboard,
His aching jaws grip a hot parch’d tongue,
His wide eyes search unconsciously.

He cannot shriek.

Bloody saliva
Dribbles down his shapeless jacket.

I saw him tweet
And tweet again
A well-@‘ed deplorable.

This is the happy liberal,
This is he…


https: ...twitter.com/ritapanahi/status/973045483038846976?s=21

LoL. And :clap: ... ;-)

But another sad case of Trump Derangement Syndome?

Trump_Trigger.jpg

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;-)

As another possible case of the phenomenon - which one might suggest seems "burgeoning" - I offer something from Cathy Young, and a rejoinder from yours truly:







Maybe Trump was wide of the mark, but seems that should have been the issue, not whether someone got their knickers in a twist because their precious feelings were hurt.

[Steersman]

Steers mentioned this in passing but since some of you have him on ignore I thought it is worth highlighting:

Planned Parenthood cuts ties with Women’s March leader over Farrakhan support

A regional chapter of Planned Parenthood announced it is parting ways with Women’s March Co-president Tamika Mallory amid backlash over her support for black nationalist and notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan.

Planned Parenthood Votes Northwest and Hawaii, which describes itself as an “independent, non profit, nonpartisan organization educating residents and policy-makers about reproductive health issues in Alaska, Hawaii, Idaho, and Washington,” told supporters in an email Wednesday that it “decided to part ways” with Ms. Mallory “after careful review” and will be announcing a new keynote speaker for its April 5 luncheon in the near future.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018 ... -leader-o/

Thanks. Seems others are, commendably, getting into the act of stomping, with hobnail boots, all over the Women's March and Farrakhan, cases in point:

The leaders of the American Women’s March have spoken: Jews are unwelcome on the feminist left

That they have embraced and defended prominent anti-Semite Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan is unconscionable, Emma Teitel writes.

Honestly, what calamities aren’t the Jews responsible for?

I’m not about to argue that my people are the most maligned in history, but it’s safe to say we are the most creatively maligned.

Not only are we allegedly responsible for the death of Christ, the Black Plague and 9/11, we are also believed to have found time in our extremely busy, evildoing schedules to fake the moon landing, kill Kennedy, train a dolphin to spy on Hamas (that one I actually wish were true), and, according to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “control agencies of government” like the FBI. ....

Hope they all get fucken buried in the ensuing avalanche.

[MarcusAu]

In other news...

David Ogden Stiers died recently.

[Steersman]

In other news...

David Ogden Stiers died recently.

R.I.P., ask not for whom, and all that, although we are a dying breed, so to speak.

Think the mortality rate is about 1% which works out to some 70 million of us shuffling off this mortal coil every year. Everybody complains about death and taxes, but few willing to address the latter, and even fewer the former.

[Hunt]

Perfect response by Harris to l'Affaire Krauss:

I'm certainly more inclined to take Harris and Coyne more seriously than a boatload of the psychopaths, but I'm really not sure how "I've done some digging and my sources tell me that there's something to the story" is any better, and perhaps worse, than trial by internet. I actually tend to think it is worse, since it leaves the public hanging with nothing more than another indirect testimonial and no more hope to ever discover what is or isn't true. In a way, they're actually quite self-serving declarations that exonerates them personally without shedding any more light on the subject. It would almost be better if they didn't say anything, or encourage their sources, evidently solid enough to convince them, to speak up publicly and settle the whole matter once and for all. Where were all these people when Buzzfeed was so assiduously researching their article?

[HoneyWagon]

Comrade Starbucks has returned!|

[Kirbmarc]

This is a national disgrace but our politicians still walk on eggshells around it, ask any politician to talk about it and they fluster and bluster and dodge the elephant in the room IE: ISLAM. Our newspapers and news media continue to call them "Asian rape gangs" even the Daily Mail can't bring themselves to say the M word.

This baffles me, since "Asian rape gangs" is actually a reference to race. In what world is "muslim rape gang" more racist than "Asian rape gang"?

Unless of course the problem isn't racism, but the reaction of the "muslim community leaders".

If you're a politician and you criticise Islam in the UK, within 10 mins someone will chastise you all over social media as an 'Islamophobe' 'Bigot' 'Racist' 'Nazi' and that's often from your own side. Look how Anne Marie Walters was treated by UKIP's inner circle when she ran as leader on a 'critical of Islam' ticket. Farage called her and her followers 'Neo Nazis' who have no place in the party.

But surely saying that the rape gangs are "Asian" is perceived as more racist than saying that they're "muslims"? When did an explicit reference to race become LESS racist than a reference to religion?

[Keating]

I blame the Jews.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

It's because those who cry "racism" are actually the worst racists. They lump all muslims as "brown people", ignoring the fact that there are many non-brown muslims. They also tend to lump all brown people as muslims, which is quite ironic when it's clear that racists on the right do the exact same thing.

They are unable to make the distinction between ethnicity and religion/ideology. Might be why they think all whites (except them, of course) are neo-nazis.

[Brive1987]

WTF

[Brive1987]

Kirb, looks like there is vanishing middle ground in UK eh?

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome
To be honest, I hadn't heard or at least remembered this until recently. Tall Poppy Syndrome, what does that remind one of?

[Brive1987]

It's because those who cry "racism" are actually the worst racists. They lump all muslims as "brown people", ignoring the fact that there are many non-brown muslims. They also tend to lump all brown people as muslims, which is quite ironic when it's clear that racists on the right do the exact same thing.

They are unable to make the distinction between ethnicity and religion/ideology. Might be why they think all whites (except them, of course) are neo-nazis.

I agree, it would suck to be the 1 in 10 non-Muslim Egyptian.

Though strangely, only 47% of Nigerians are Islamic. Making a majority of those dudes selling flying toys at the Eiffel Tower god fearing children of the enlightenment.

That’s my half full story of hope for the day.

[Bhurzum]

I don't know your opinion on death metal, but if you are into it and haven't heard The Rack by Asphyx, that might be up your alley. Its raw, barbaric and unrelenting: maybe a little less nuanced than either of these other albums we are talking about, though.

https://www.outube.com/watch?v=oyjAca2bR-w

Top tune, right there! I already have "Deathhammer" in my archive although I don't play it as often as I used to. Death metal is more to my taste than black metal (if I'm understanding the differences) although I will listen to pretty much anything if it grabs me by the nuts. In the past, this music was used as a tool to deaden the senses whilst beasting myself in the gym or pounding pavement. These days, it's background noise as I blast virtual commies or aliens.

[Brive1987]

[Brive1987]

Remember there is precedent for the truth retaining its mantle of “hate crime”. After Sargon’s spew at the end of ‘This Week in Stupidity’, he better make sure he has his travel kit ready ....

Somewhere old heroes shuffle safely down the street
Where you can speak out loud
About your doubts and fears
And what's more no-one ever disappears
You never hear their standard issue kicking in your door.

[feathers]

Though strangely, only 47% of Nigerians are Islamic. Making a majority of those dudes selling flying toys at the Eiffel Tower god fearing children of the enlightenment.

As long as they don't sell the Eiffel Tower...

[shoutinghorse]

Woke up this morning to confirmation I am now living in a police state. For the 1st time in my life I'm ashamed of being British. :oops:



Oh well off to the daily grind I go.

[Suet Cardigan]

I pass this rather scary statue of Ken Dodd at Lime Street Station most days:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1316/5157 ... eac1_b.jpg

For the benefit of those who don't know who he is, I should point out he's holding a tickling stick, not a kebab.

You a scouser then, Shat?

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