There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[Shatterface]

Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. All other genders are plucked from Uranus.

[free thoughtpolice]

Pee-Ziddy Dog shows he's down with the colored kids:

http://goo.gl/7yx3fm

(Even though we all know that if he ever met a black person on a dark street he'd be terrified.)

Say Wut? Pee-Ziddy Dog has plenty of street cred. He hates the cave beast as much as anyone, in fact he is going to use his frequent flier points to go and chill with his homies Sikivu Hutchinson and Sincere Kirabo at the Secular Social Justice so he can listen to people of melanin enhancement educate him about the evil ways of the honkey and perhaps work out a way to wrest control of the Atheist/ Skeptic movement from the Mayonnaise Mafia and allow Africans and other brown-skinned people from colonially oppressed areas to feel comfortable about participating in the A/S movement.
http://archive.is/Kkh6c

. As a result, it is precisely because of anti-atheist religious bigotry, white atheist racism and the lack of culturally responsive secular organizations that the vast majority of non-believers of color do not feel comfortable openly identifying as atheist. And, until this shifts, the much-ballyhooed rise of the nones will only be a footnote for segregated communities of color.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Just wait until she hears about the vagina shaped docking station.

The old SNL did a sketch on that theme.

[Really?]

Congratulations to Mack Beggs on his second straight state title.

Mack Beggs won a Texas girls state wrestling championship for the second year in a row with a victory that, once again, brought a mixture of cheers and boos because Beggs is a transgender athlete.

Beggs, an 18-year-old senior at Trinity High in Euless, began the transition from girl to boy a few years ago and has been taking low-level testosterone injections but is competing in the girls competition because of a decision by the University Interscholastic League after an uproar and a lawsuit last winter. Because the testosterone comes from a physician, the UIL does not regard it as a banned substance.

Although Beggs, whose given name is Mackenzie, has stated a preference for competing in the boys’ division, the UIL requires athletes to compete against the gender that is listed on their birth certificate. Beggs has gone 36-0 this year, wrestling in the 110-pound class.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... c885d39aa4

Can you believe that those transphobic assholes booed a moustachioed biogirl jacked up with T beating girls?

[MarcusAu]

Well apparently a Zizek vs Petersen debate is a thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp29zPC3wuw


And the Post-Modernists have push-back against Petersen's latest book:

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23 ... ules-life/

This is way above my pay-grade...but personally I'm going to stick with blaming the French...

[shoutinghorse]

[Shatterface]

I hope Paterson vs Zizek becomes the new Chomsky vs Foucault.

[MarcusAu]

I hope Paterson vs Zizek becomes the new Chomsky vs Foucault.

I'm team Jacob myself.

[screwtape]

I'm not sure which guy is more embarrassing. Each one is a caricature of everything wrong with their side of the spectrum and both men are dimwits. As much as I hate trump, I might have actually voted for him if I got a choice between him and trudeau.

Confession: I voted for the local LIberal, and thus for Trudeau, not because I liked Justin's hair, but because he was not Harper. Well, that worked -we got rid of Harper, who will remain our most hated PM for a long time to come. We can deal with the fallout; it's not as if Canada has any international reputation worth polishing anymore, and however much of an idiot he turns out to be, there is no sense that our constitution is threatened.

The disturbing thing for me, being an old fart who has been around the block a few times, was initially that the media in the USA was openly deriding their president in a way I had never seen before, and which would have been unthinkable in the past. But then Trump starts saying, just as overtly, that there is a deep government that is working to prevent him from doing what he was elected to do, and that elected representatives are bad people who ought to be investigated. This makes my ears prick up. This has happened before. It has often been followed by an Enabling Act to abolish term limits or delay an election. You know where that goes. I had felt that the American constitution was robust and self-stabilising enough to cope with a putz like Trump, but now I'm concerned. Better a clown like Justin Bieber Trudeau, than a corporatist like Trump. Corporatism is the hallmark of fascism, not anti-semitism, not nationalism, not expansionism, nor any other attribute of the extreme right. Beware of socialists and popularists with big business behind them, as they are even more dangerous than socialists and popularists with trade unions and 'the people' behind them.

[John D]

Fuck me.... One of my dearest old friends just died last night at the age of 54. She had been fighting cancer for 8 years. The chemo was poisoning her slowly... I don't remember the details but she has had a variety of chemo treatments several times a year for this whole time. Last night she had a seizure at home. He husband tried CPR on her but he couldn't revive her.

So, this shot my wife into a monster funk. She will not get out of bed. We had a play and dinner planned with friends today. She said she could not make it and needed to be alone. I told her it might be best if we saw some friends, but she insisted she would be best left alone.

I am pretty sure she will use the as an excuse to not start our new diet. Hmmmmm. She said... "You know, Susie lived the way she wanted to... and she just kept on smoking even with cancer.... why don't I just eat myself to death?" I said "Do what you want, but this is on you. I want to spend my life with you, but you want to kill yourself. You can only help others when you take care of yourself. You need to get help." Then she told me I should divorce her and I said I didn't want to. Yikes.

I saw a counselor yesterday and he seemed like a pretty good guy. He said "Wow, John, you have some pretty interesting problems." Haha. Most of the time was spent with me just telling my stories.

RIP Susie. Her favorite drink was Captain Morgans and Pepsi. I had one as a tribute to her today... but what a lousy drink.... I wish she was a scotch drinker.... or gin or something.

[Old_ones]

And the Post-Modernists have push-back against Petersen's latest book:

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23 ... ules-life/

This is way above my pay-grade...but personally I'm going to stick with blaming the French...

It took less than a paragraph for the fucking viewpoint mag to tie Peterson to the alt-right, so I did myself a favor and stopped reading at that point:

A specter is haunting North America — the specter of postmodernism. Or at least, that’s what Jordan Peterson would have you believe. Peterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, has entered into an unholy alliance with all the powers of the alt-right to exorcise this specter. Though he calls himself a “British classical liberal,” Peterson’s appeal feeds into the most reactionary tendencies in contemporary politics. He rose to fame when he was captured on video at a protest on the University of Toronto campus, telling transgender students he refused to use gender-neutral pronouns. He has since joined the ranks of Logan Paul and PewDiePie as a YouTube star. He mostly eschews writing, instead posting videos of lectures online for his primarily young, white, and male audience.

Debating or even talking to postmodernists is a total waste of time, because they are intellectually bankrupt mental abortions. People should debate postmodernists by showing up to their lectures, jeering at them and throwing rotten produce at their faces.

[Shatterface]

Did Peterson 'eschew' writing before or after 12 Rules for Life, currently the No 1 bestseller in psychology on Amazon?

[Really?]

Did Peterson 'eschew' writing before or after 12 Rules for Life, currently the No 1 bestseller in psychology on Amazon?

But has Peterson gone to #1 in Books > Religion > Atheism > Accused Rapists > Teachers in Minnesota > Teachers in Morris Minnesota > Collections of Blog Posts?

[Guest_d2e60302]

And the Post-Modernists have push-back against Petersen's latest book:

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23 ... ules-life/

This is way above my pay-grade...but personally I'm going to stick with blaming the French...

It took less than a paragraph for the fucking viewpoint mag to tie Peterson to the alt-right, so I did myself a favor and stopped reading at that point:

snip...

Debating or even talking to postmodernists is a total waste of time, because they are intellectually bankrupt mental abortions. People should debate postmodernists by showing up to their lectures, jeering at them and throwing rotten produce at their faces.

the author of that piece recently had his apartment burn down, he tweets



I can't tell if he is serious or not.

Did he and his family just have truly shitty friends and live in a truly shitty community who would never help anyone?

Has he never heard of communities pulling together just because, or the Red Cross or Salvation Army, or right wing churches out in the redneck frontiers helping out people after a family tragedy, or disaster?

I was going to reply to that tweet saying undoubtedly god smote his apartment because of his idiot communistic piece in viewpointmag, but I am hoping he was joking....

[John D]

The USA takes gold in curling!?!? Suck it Canada (and Sweden). First it's women's hockey and now men's curling.... Oh boy.... eh....

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Debating or even talking to postmodernists is a total waste of time, because they are intellectually bankrupt mental abortions. People should debate postmodernists by showing up to their lectures, jeering at them and throwing rotten produce at their faces.

PoMo is crazy talk with built-in nonsense at its core.

Shem the Penishead told me I couldn't ask for evidence that The Myth of the Frontier™ actually dictated US domestic and foreign policy for the past century, because it was a "non-evidential matter."

[Bhurzum]

RIP Susie. Her favorite drink was Captain Morgans and Pepsi. I had one as a tribute to her today... but what a lousy drink.... I wish she was a scotch drinker.... or gin or something.

Although I didn't know her and barely know you, I'll raise a glass to her the next time I get the chance.

Sorry for your loss.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Did Peterson 'eschew' writing before or after 12 Rules for Life, currently the No 1 bestseller in psychology on Amazon?

He's also author or co-author of 120 scholarly papers in psychology. But he's never written for Jacobin, so fuck him.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Fuck John, when it rains it pours.

[Old_ones]

And the Post-Modernists have push-back against Petersen's latest book:

https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23 ... ules-life/

This is way above my pay-grade...but personally I'm going to stick with blaming the French...

It took less than a paragraph for the fucking viewpoint mag to tie Peterson to the alt-right, so I did myself a favor and stopped reading at that point:

snip...

Debating or even talking to postmodernists is a total waste of time, because they are intellectually bankrupt mental abortions. People should debate postmodernists by showing up to their lectures, jeering at them and throwing rotten produce at their faces.

the author of that piece recently had his apartment burn down, he tweets



I can't tell if he is serious or not.

Did he and his family just have truly shitty friends and live in a truly shitty community who would never help anyone?

Has he never heard of communities pulling together just because, or the Red Cross or Salvation Army, or right wing churches out in the redneck frontiers helping out people after a family tragedy, or disaster?

I was going to reply to that tweet saying undoubtedly god smote his apartment because of his idiot communistic piece in viewpointmag, but I am hoping he was joking....

I have to say, this whole thing reeks of pernicious empiricism, and western cisheteronormative phallogocentric bias. He can never truly know whether a fire consumed his apartment because as all good postmodernists know objective reality is a myth and our understanding is tainted by power dynamics. He should look into the cisheteropatriarchal power dynamics that inform his belief that the inside of his apartment shouldn't decide to become charcoal, and he should wrestle with why he feels compelled to oppress his apartment by denying its identity.

Also, the idea that apartment fires are bad is a decidedly western social construct. I question the propriety of his calls for help. He should instead recontextualize using the lens of the Hukutu Inuit of western Baffin who believe that apartment fires are a blessing of the goddess Ixtoc the Burning which rain down gifts upon those who they effect.

:naughty:

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. All other genders are plucked from Uranus.

I am stealing that.

[KiwiInOz]

snip

I have to say, this whole thing reeks of pernicious empiricism, and western cisheteronormative phallogocentric bias. He can never truly know whether a fire consumed his apartment because as all good postmodernists know objective reality is a myth and our understanding is tainted by power dynamics. He should look into the cisheteropatriarchal power dynamics that inform his belief that the inside of his apartment shouldn't decide to become charcoal, and he should wrestle with why he feels compelled to oppress his apartment by denying its identity.

Also, the idea that apartment fires are bad is a decidedly western social construct. I question the propriety of his calls for help. He should instead recontextualize using the lens of the Hukutu Inuit of western Baffin who believe that apartment fires are a blessing of the goddess Ixtoc the Burning which rain down gifts upon those who they effect.

:naughty:

You have a gift. A frightening gift.

[Shatterface]

If you don't want to burn your house down get a trailer for your meth lab.

[Shatterface]

Also, e-begging isn't communism. Try begging for help in a communist country and see if the locals rally behind you or snitch you up for profiteering.

[Hunt]

If you don't want to burn your house down get a trailer for your meth lab.

Or a mobile home.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... tJu9tFB4mg

[Brive1987]

Skepchick is soaring high with a site makeover.

Gone is the "Help us pay for the new server" and gone too are the tumbleweed references to the slave labour.

Now it appears to be a simple manual RSS feed for the sour-ones Patreon feed.

Another line of potential success wiped from the CV. A race to the bottom vs The Orbit and PZ's amazingly shrinking Horde.

[Bhurzum]

You have a gif. A frightening gif.

https://im-01.gifer.com/1A7d.gif

[katamari Damassi]

Twenty years later, Monica Lewinsky decides that Bill Clinton raped her. After all, she was only 23 years old; practically a child.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics ... index.html

[Hunt]

Twenty years later, Monica Lewinsky decides that Bill Clinton raped her. After all, she was only 23 years old; practically a child.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics ... index.html

From the article:

"#meToo made Lewinsky rethink the episode after she heard the sound 'Ka-chinggggg!!!" and two dollar signs appeared in her eyes."

(Actually, it wasn't in the article. I lied.)

[John D]

Twenty years later, Monica Lewinsky decides that Bill Clinton raped her. After all, she was only 23 years old; practically a child.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics ... index.html

Cool... Bill Clinton is a rapist and Hillary is a rape apologist. This is really fun to watch. I wonder when they start to tear down stuff honoring JFK. Hell, he used to swim naked with his girlfriend in the White house pool while the Secret Service held onto his drink. Haha.

Things go in circles .... sex used to be sacred until the 1950s when the Hollywood culture started to break down the rules. In the late 60s people who thought sex was sacred were mocked and insulted. So, by the 1970s and 1980s sex was just a simple entertainment for many people. Today.... Toss in a bit of AIDS and mix together with victim culture and you end up with sex being so sacred that even consensual sex is condemned as rape.

[Lsuoma]

The USA takes gold in curling!?!? Suck it Canada (and Sweden). First it's women's hockey and now men's curling.... Oh boy.... eh....

I curled a massive one out a couple of days ago. A genuine crowd-pleaser.

[shoutinghorse]

Social media is all about me me me me me meeeeee

:lol:

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Twenty years later, Monica Lewinsky decides that Bill Clinton raped her. After all, she was only 23 years old; practically a child.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics ... index.html

Poor girl also had an affair with been raped by her high school teacher, who got fired after she bragged about it to the entire town bravely reported him to the police.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

... you end up with sex being so sacred that even consensual sex is condemned as rape.

Not a SJW has ever responded to my question of: what if both of them were drunk?

[Kirbmarc]

... you end up with sex being so sacred that even consensual sex is condemned as rape.

Not a SJW has ever responded to my question of: what if both of them were drunk?

The man is guilty of course. Unless they're a trans man. In case of two women, the one with the least amount of victim points is guilty.

Basically:

-Cis is always more guilty than trans

-Men are always more guilty than women

-Especially so if they're white.

[Guest_810bde84]

THis mention of meth labs. THe explosion in Leicster. I'm currenty playing a guessing game where I try to decide if it was a methlab, hash oil, or a mishap in the production of diversity fireworks. I'm leaning towards hash oil.


CaughtUpLockedOut

[shoutinghorse]

If you're a woman living in London and you don't want to get raped in the next 5 years, tough shit as your chances have just risen and the police have no idea why.

Deputy Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police force Sir Craig Mackey, too, has confessed that “there is something going on with sexual offending in London” — but claimed to be none the wiser when asked at the London Assembly if he could explain what was behind the rise.

The problem of rape in London is not expected to improve any time soon, with a spokesman for the Metropolitan Police saying the force expects numbers to continue rising for the next two to five years.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02 ... ns-london/

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Lewinsky, who disclosed that she suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the ordeal....

All those national TV interviews and half hour features she's done over the years must've been abject torture.

[Barbie's Boyfriend]

... you end up with sex being so sacred that even consensual sex is condemned as rape.

Not a SJW has ever responded to my question of: what if both of them were drunk?

Given the attractiveness of the typical Female SJW, isn't it a given that the man engaged in any sexual encounter with a female SJW would have to have been intoxicated ? VERY intoxicated !!!

[Barbie's Boyfriend]

If you're a woman living in London and you don't want to get raped in the next 5 years, tough shit as your chances have just risen and the police have no idea why.

I know why. Numerous Universities obviously were recently opened in London. And each University has numerous Fraternities, filled with White, Male, Cishet, Shitlord Dudebros !!!

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Given the attractiveness of the typical Female SJW, isn't it a given that the man engaged in any sexual encounter with a female SJW would have to have been intoxicated ? VERY intoxicated !!!

What? You don't find Melody Hensley to be an extremely attractive young woman? Just look at this beauty!

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[Matt Cavanaugh]

Hemant:
Coming from a broken home can't have anything to do with becoming a mass killer, because not all kids from broken homes become mass killers.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... e-mothers/

[Kirbmarc]

Lewinsky, who disclosed that she suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the ordeal....

All those national TV interviews and half hour features she's done over the years must've been abject torture.

It's Twitter-PTSD, just like Hensley. It's a plague by now.

[Sunder]

Hemant:
Coming from a broken home can't have anything to do with becoming a mass killer, because not all kids from broken homes become mass killers.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... e-mothers/

And plenty of kids — dare I say damn near all of them — who grow up without a father aren’t murdering innocent people. It’s almost like there’s another factor that Santorum simply ignores…

Is he implying that those kids would be out murdering innocent people but they just don't have access to guns?

I think what Hemant tried to say was "coming from a single parent home doesn't automatically make you mentally damaged." And no fucking duh, nobody thinks it does, just that the risk factor is higher.

But they way he worded it makes his position to be an even more extreme version of Santorum's: That single parent kids are every one of them murderous psychos only kept from their bloodlust by lack of an available weapon.

[free thoughtpolice]

Hemant:
Coming from a broken home can't have anything to do with becoming a mass killer, because not all kids from broken homes become mass killers.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... e-mothers/

And plenty of kids — dare I say damn near all of them — who grow up without a father aren’t murdering innocent people. It’s almost like there’s another factor that Santorum simply ignores…

Is he implying that those kids would be out murdering innocent people but they just don't have access to guns?

I think what Hemant tried to say was "coming from a single parent home doesn't automatically make you mentally damaged." And no fucking duh, nobody thinks it does, just that the risk factor is higher.

But they way he worded it makes his position to be an even more extreme version of Santorum's: That single parent kids are every one of them murderous psychos only kept from their bloodlust by lack of an available weapon.

If He man hadn't banned me I would have sent in a comment agreeing with him that broken homes (single mothers) are one of the main causes of shootings in the US.

[BoxNDox]

If you don't want to burn your house down get a trailer for your meth lab.

Where I come from you rent a place to do it.

http://www.deq.state.ok.us/LPDnew/MethLabs/meth.htm

[BoxNDox]

The USA takes gold in curling!?!? Suck it Canada (and Sweden). First it's women's hockey and now men's curling.... Oh boy.... eh....

Watching curling always cracks me up. Dumbest. Sport. Ever.

[free thoughtpolice]

If you don't want to burn your house down get a trailer for your meth lab.

Where I come from you rent a place to do it.
http://www.deq.state.ok.us/LPDnew/MethLabs/meth.htm

The more responsible folks like to go RVing.

[Brive1987]

That had me standing at attention. It would appear futile to try and argue against the intersection of minimally attired women and assault rifles on steroids.

:clap: :dance:

[Really?]

The lineup for Mythcon 2018 has been announced. If you'll recall, the SJW press got angry with Mythcon because they invited Sargon of Akkad for an interview with an incoherent git. Mythcon also had to pay for a bunch of extra security because of SJW threats.

You can tell they are Nazis just from their mission statement:

The Mythinformation Conference - Mythcon - is a day-long event showcasing a diversity of viewpoints on a variety of trending, important topics of our time. Expand your story. Hear what a wide variety of scholars, journalists, activists and entertainers have to say on the subject before making up your mind for yourself.

HOW CAN WE MAKE PROGRESS IF WE CAN’T LEARN TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER?
We are a diverse world, with billions of individual points of view on politics, religion, environment, sexuality, human rights, etc. But we've become paralyzed when charged with resolving problems - often refusing to listen to the views differing from our own. Mythcon speakers come from all walks of life, but they’re here to show us that we can find value in engaging in conversation with people who think differently.

Speakers include:
Peter Boghossian
Sargon of Akkad
Shoe on head
Armored Skeptic
Dr. Richard Carrier, PhD
Some Black Guy
Chris Raygun
Godless Spellechecker
Theryn Meyer
Blaire White
David Smalley
Karen Straughan

Well, this talk should be interesting:

Where do social justice, the secular community and identity politics meet?
Featuring: Richard Carrier and Sargon of Akkad

http://www.mythicistmilwaukee.com/speakers/

I wonder who Carrier is really talking about here:

[Kirbmarc]

Hemant:
Coming from a broken home can't have anything to do with becoming a mass killer, because not all kids from broken homes become mass killers.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... e-mothers/

And plenty of kids — dare I say damn near all of them — who grow up without a father aren’t murdering innocent people. It’s almost like there’s another factor that Santorum simply ignores…

Is he implying that those kids would be out murdering innocent people but they just don't have access to guns?

I think what Hemant tried to say was "coming from a single parent home doesn't automatically make you mentally damaged." And no fucking duh, nobody thinks it does, just that the risk factor is higher.

But they way he worded it makes his position to be an even more extreme version of Santorum's: That single parent kids are every one of them murderous psychos only kept from their bloodlust by lack of an available weapon.

Sometimes I think that the biggest problem with claims like Hemant's is that few people truly understand statistics.

Anyway I am a child from a broken home and I'm only kept from my bloodlust by playing ultra-violent video games which allow me to channel my inner rage against fictional characters made of pixels and not human beings. CHECKMATE SARKEESIAN! CHECKMATE DONALD TRUMP!

More seriously: I'm pretty sure that even in the US if you want to drive a car you have to pass a written exam, a medical exam and a practical exam to get a license, and buy insurance for your car or risk being bankrupt in case of an accident. Also if you can be convicted of a felony if you drink and drive, or take drugs and drive. I can't understand why there's no similar process for getting a "gun license", or for making drinking and carrying a gun a felony, or taking drugs and carrying a gun a felony, along with maybe disqualifications on the basis of mental illness.

[Guest_810bde84]

[Sunder]

I'm certainly not on Santorum's side and I get that his tactics are almost entirely diversionary. Because for one thing "solving" mental health would be a fuck of a lot harder than gun control, even with all the political will in the world behind it. But for another, because there's really no reason to believe any Republican is seriously going to commit significant public resources toward anything that isn't a tax cut unless basically forced. Because in addition to it being expensive, it plays too much into the Democratic narrative that hey, maybe sometimes government action can have a positive effect maybe.

No, it's pretty clearly a narrative line that goes "we can't do anything about guns until we solve mental health and ah fuck that's a tall order guess we'll just pray about it."

[Kirbmarc]

I'm certainly not on Santorum's side and I get that his tactics are almost entirely diversionary. Because for one thing "solving" mental health would be a fuck of a lot harder than gun control, even with all the political will in the world behind it. But for another, because there's really no reason to believe any Republican is seriously going to commit significant public resources toward anything that isn't a tax cut unless basically forced. Because in addition to it being expensive, it plays too much into the Democratic narrative that hey, maybe sometimes government action can have a positive effect maybe.

No, it's pretty clearly a narrative line that goes "we can't do anything about guns until we solve mental health and ah fuck that's a tall order guess we'll just pray about it."

Yes, I tend to agree, especially since, as you say, the logical conclusion to the argument that it's mental illness, not guns, which is the problem, would be to invest more government money in preventing mental illness, and according to the GOP that's Communism :bjarte:

I suspect that Santorum's preferred policies might be something about giving more tax cuts to churches who can teach those rascally absentee fathers to put a ring on the mother of their children and stay around. If things don't improve, well, yes, they just need more Jebus.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Social media is all about me me me me me meeeeee

:lol:

She knows very well that social media is not all about her, which is why she tweets inflammatory shit like this. It's been her most reliable means of attracting trolls and Patreon support from white nights. Thankfully the effectiveness has been waning.

[Guest_d2e60302]

More seriously: I'm pretty sure that even in the US if you want to drive a car you have to pass a written exam, a medical exam and a practical exam to get a license, and buy insurance for your car or risk being bankrupt in case of an accident. Also if you can be convicted of a felony if you drink and drive, or take drugs and drive. I can't understand why there's no similar process for getting a "gun license", or for making drinking and carrying a gun a felony, or taking drugs and carrying a gun a felony, along with maybe disqualifications on the basis of mental illness.

Because as I know you know, for good or bad, there is no mention of needing a gun license in the Bill of Rights and if you think the 2A is there to protect against a tyranny, then "clearly" (?) gun licenses are the last helpful thing.

That said, I wish I knew more about how machine guns were outlawed, because if they can be, I don't understand why "assault rifes" (*) can't be effectively banned from being manufactured where assault rifle might mean a rifle of a certain weight, or dimension, or manual firing rate.

I might not favor an outlawing of existing weapons, but I don't need necessarily see the need to allow them to be produced new without all sorts of limits that parties negotiating in good faith with the goal to allow freedom but reduce mass killings short of insurrection could agree on.

How is it that gun owners accept their not being able to own a fully militarized Little Bird attack helicopter, or for that matter, a swarm of semi autonomous Patriot Hunter Killer Home Defense Drones, the ultimate authority when you need to keep the pussy communists out.

I'd think some restrictions could be agreed on (hah, fat chance), no guns that can fire more than 5 rounds per second, or maybe that can fire more than 20 rounds at 5 rounds per second and then has to fire at a reduced rate for some cooling off limit, but those limits could be removed by a difficult illegal modification, much like turning a semi into full auto is, that would allow an AR-15 to be converted by "professionals" when the insurrection comes but not by Joe Average high school psycho. And guns/trigger assemblies that are bump stock resistant, probably by being rate limited.

I understand that gun afficionados want absolutely reliable guns and so insist on not allowing tech into their guns, fine, take all the tech out of their guns, let them own any rifle they can cast and machine on their own without CAD, and/or ask them to accept the role of tech in making guns actually more reliable and safer.

How would that be barred by the 2A?

[dogen]

That had me standing at attention. It would appear futile to try and argue against the intersection of minimally attired women and assault rifles on steroids.

:clap: :dance:

Can anyone explain why, each time, the gun fires two shots -- pauses -- and then continues firing continuously?

[dogen]

More seriously: I'm pretty sure that even in the US if you want to drive a car you have to pass a written exam, a medical exam and a practical exam to get a license, and buy insurance for your car or risk being bankrupt in case of an accident. Also if you can be convicted of a felony if you drink and drive, or take drugs and drive. I can't understand why there's no similar process for getting a "gun license", or for making drinking and carrying a gun a felony, or taking drugs and carrying a gun a felony, along with maybe disqualifications on the basis of mental illness.

Because as I know you know, for good or bad, there is no mention of needing a gun license in the Bill of Rights and if you think the 2A is there to protect against a tyranny, then "clearly" (?) gun licenses are the last helpful thing.

So, 'well regulated militia' is in the 2A just for shits and giggles?

[Guest_d2e60302]

More seriously: I'm pretty sure that even in the US if you want to drive a car you have to pass a written exam, a medical exam and a practical exam to get a license, and buy insurance for your car or risk being bankrupt in case of an accident. Also if you can be convicted of a felony if you drink and drive, or take drugs and drive. I can't understand why there's no similar process for getting a "gun license", or for making drinking and carrying a gun a felony, or taking drugs and carrying a gun a felony, along with maybe disqualifications on the basis of mental illness.

Because as I know you know, for good or bad, there is no mention of needing a gun license in the Bill of Rights and if you think the 2A is there to protect against a tyranny, then "clearly" (?) gun licenses are the last helpful thing.

So, 'well regulated militia' is in the 2A just for shits and giggles?

I see what you're saying, but apparently that is not the current thought of the Supreme Court. My question was accepting that, even without the well regulated militia clause, gun afficionados still don't demand fully automatic weapons, so why not and what can be done about weapons that falls into restrictions and limitations that are currently agreed upon.

If you want to fight it on the well regulated militia clause, I'll cheer you on, but I think you're wasting your time going after them head on rather than from the side.

[Guest_d2e60302]

just to clarify, yes, apparently the current thought after Heller, is that "well regulated militia" IS just for shits and giggles and can't be used to require a gun license.

http://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/ ... -v-heller/

Heller was only decided in 2008, so I guess it's conceivable that a new court could undecide that, but probably not a Trump court. So what can be done until then?