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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by feathers » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:47 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:42 pm
Kind of funny sight when I went for my walk along the beach today. A flock of about two dozen seagulls and crows chased a van for about a half mile down the the road. Presumably they had been feeding the birds and when they drove away the passenger kept throwing handfuls of cheetos out of the window.
So they fed a Flock of Seagulls and then they ran, they ran so far away?

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Post by MarcusAu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:38 am

Bhurzum wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Rule 34 variant 1 now says somewhere there is footage of Watson tracing lazy shit arcs around a Zinny-areola using her still warm finger.
...as Richard "High Protein" Carrier furiously lobs ropes over the pair of them.
I think that Zinnia would be doing the lobbing and Richard the catching - at least on the face of it.

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Post by deLurch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:21 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:24 pm
Kirbmarc wrote:
Wow. I shouldn't be surprised, because it's InfoWars, but still...wow. This is a new low, even for them.
You haven't been following AJ too closely, that is just run of the mill Alex Jones. I think probably his lowest point was his mocking the parents of the the New Jersey shooting which he claims was just crummy acting and the whole thing is totally fake.
This is the sort of slimeball that "educates" the true skeptics about the goings on of the Deep State.
I think the funniest bits are when Alex Jones is talking with Paul Joseph Watson about an issue. Alex Jones dishes out a pile of bullshit with flimsy evidence and then looks to Paul to agree his evidence and character vouching is solid. Yet Paull Joseph Watson just deadpans his response and fails to agree with Alex Jones.

You have to be solidly up your own ass when your own employee can't stomach agreeing with your BS.

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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by deLurch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:27 am

Sunder wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:02 pm
Because the currency's value is set by an outside body, an ailing country in the midst of a deep recession/depression can't devaluate to let off some of the pressure. This fucked Greece over big time.
An understandable objection.

Of course states in the US could claim the same issue, say Mississippi.

Greece's big problem of course was too many government giveaways and a failure to properly tax. Bribes for service were common and expected.

Greece had a hell of a lot going for itself as a vacation destination.

Devaluing the currency was not going to solve their problem.

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Post by deLurch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:34 am

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The Honey Badger trial was in November and for a while it looked like there might be a settlement, but over a two word tweet "we won" done by a badger employee (I think) but not authorized by Alison Tieman, that was scuttled and the badgers were threatened with a new suit.

I'm not sure how the November trial ended, but the badgers posted various updates "Judge sets new trial date in our lawsuit against the Calgary Expo and the Mary Sue;".





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Otherwise known as the Ben Radford failure. Never announce victory until the ink is on the dotted line. Doing so prior allows the signatory to live through buyer's remorse prior to sealing the deal.

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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by feathers » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:55 am

Really? wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:12 pm
[.img]https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs ... _Jones.jpg[/img]

Dude, I was hoping to masturbate myself to sleep.
...but now you came prematurely!

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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by windy » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:12 am

deLurch wrote:
Sunder wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:02 pm
Because the currency's value is set by an outside body, an ailing country in the midst of a deep recession/depression can't devaluate to let off some of the pressure. This fucked Greece over big time.
An understandable objection.

Of course states in the US could claim the same issue, say Mississippi.
Mississippi would probably be in the same situation, except transfers from the rest of the US are much more extensive than those between EU states:
Using another currency union, the US, as a comparison, James Feyrer and Bruce Sacerdote argue that one of the EU’s major weaknesses is its lack of a mechanism for large fiscal transfers between states. In the US, Federal spending is progressive, and much more responsive to external shocks, meaning that there is a much larger degree of smoothing between states in terms of GDP and unemployment rates.

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Despite much talk of income transfers within the EU, European transfers are at most a few percentage points of GDP. The four largest net recipients in Europe, Poland, Greece, Hungary, and Portugal, all had net transfers of less than $400 per capita in 2009, an order of magnitude lower than the transfer to the ten poorest US states
deLurch wrote: Greece's big problem of course was too many government giveaways and a failure to properly tax. Bribes for service were common and expected.
That's part of it, but the euro arguably makes recovery more difficult even for countries that follow the rules:
Now, it's hard to do worse than Iceland. It basically turned its entire economy into a hedge fund that collapsed in 2008. Its banks defaulted, its government had to be bailed out, and its currency collapsed 60 percent. Not only that, but, between 2009 and 2014, Iceland did nearly twice as much austerity as the Netherlands and 12 times as much as Finland. And if that wasn't enough, Iceland's economic jeremiad also includes high household debt and capital controls that have prevented people from moving money out of the country and dissuaded them from moving it in.

But despite all this, Iceland has still managed to outperform Finland and the Netherlands. How is that possible? Well, it doesn't have the euro. It has its own currency, the krona. And as much as it hurt Iceland's people to lose 60 percent of their purchasing power on imported goods when the krona fell that much, it helped Iceland's economy by making their goods more competitive overseas. That was enough to keep what could have been a depression from turning into anything other than a bad recession.

The euro, though, does the opposite. Countries can't devalue their currencies or cut interest rates or even spend more when they get into trouble, and so they stay in trouble. All they can do is cut wages, cut spending, and then cut wages some more as penance for whatever economic transgressions they may or may not have committed. The euro straitjacket, in other words, turns ordinary problems into extraordinary ones (Finland) and extraordinary problems into historic ones (Greece). And that can happen whether or not you follow the rules.

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Post by CommanderTuvok » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:04 am

The Pit MoFo who keeps posting that Zinnia picture as The Commander is enjoying his rice krispies, owes me a new fucking keyboard, computer desk, and carpet!

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Post by Lsuoma » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:39 am

CommanderTuvok wrote: The Pit MoFo who keeps posting that Zinnia picture as The Commander is enjoying his rice krispies, owes me a new fucking keyboard, computer desk, and carpet!

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Post by piginthecity » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:53 am

The real ale group CAMRA are in trouble for this crossword clue " A sex toy or an effeminate man. (5)" i can't solve it!

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Post by jet_lagg » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:58 am

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:40 pm
First that Watson thing and now Zinnia Jones's man-titties. I must have sinned mightily.

This is why I read the pit backwards. Hopefully nothing too interesting was posted last night. I dare scroll no further.

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:10 am

piginthecity wrote: The real ale group CAMRA are in trouble for this crossword clue " A sex toy or an effeminate man. (5)" i can't solve it!
And for ..gasp! using the word..."Negro"

"US negro could become operational doctor"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-de ... e-43084843

I got the dildo one , but annoyingly the doctor one has still not clicked for me.


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Post by piginthecity » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:23 am

... and why is 'dildo' an effeminate man ? I'm offended by the quality of the clues !

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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by SM1957 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:27 am

InfraRedBucket wrote:
piginthecity wrote: The real ale group CAMRA are in trouble for this crossword clue " A sex toy or an effeminate man. (5)" i can't solve it!
And for ..gasp! using the word..."Negro"

"US negro could become operational doctor"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-de ... e-43084843

I got the dildo one , but annoyingly the doctor one has still not clicked for me.
I'm stuck on 'People you wish would shut up' N-GG-RS

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:54 am

piginthecity wrote: Surgeon.
Ah I thought surgeon but didnt realise it's an anagram.

How can an anagram be racist?
Clue:
Unique in winter ( 9 letters)

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Post by piginthecity » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:12 am

InfraRedBucket wrote:
piginthecity wrote: Surgeon.
Ah I thought surgeon but didnt realise it's an anagram.

How can an anagram be racist?
Clue:
Unique in winter ( 9 letters)
Something we find at Evergreen college i think !

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Post by piginthecity » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:25 am

Stake a little prophet on ideology held by man with a flux capacitor ? What a load of garbage ! (4 - 9)

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Post by Shatterface » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:26 am

On the subject of racist anagrams, I remember getting into an argument once because Russell Davies had a black guy called 'Ginger' in Doctor Who

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:01 am

Well I just sat through the Peterson /Brand encounter
Brand was a bit more tolerable than I expected and at times actually asked some relatively intelligent questions
specially in the first hour or so, though Brand has the tendency to gish gallop if given too much time talking about himself.

You can listen/download here:

https://www.russellbrand.com/podcasts/

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:10 am

13 indictments against Russians for interfering in US elections:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/0 ... erference/
The indictment doesn't allege that the Trump campaign cooperated wittingly with the people indicted although it appears that Kelly Conway and Dumbass Donald Jr. were witlessly unwittingly retweeting propaganda from some of the sites.
It will be interesting to see how much stuff that the "alternative news" types were spewing came from the Russians.
Wut? Alex Jones or Sean Hannity useful idiots for the FSB Internet Research arm? :o

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Post by Ape+lust » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:17 am

This should be good. I've seen plenty of high-profile trannies throw fits when you suggest "transracial" is as legitimate as "transgender." Now comes the state of Delaware telling them to get over themselves :lol:

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Post by deLurch » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:29 am

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:10 am
13 indictments against Russians for interfering in US elections:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/0 ... erference/
The indictment doesn't allege that the Trump campaign cooperated wittingly with the people indicted although it appears that Kelly Conway and Dumbass Donald Jr. were witlessly unwittingly retweeting propaganda from some of the sites.
It will be interesting to see how much stuff that the "alternative news" types were spewing came from the Russians.
Wut? Alex Jones or Sean Hannity useful idiots for the FSB Internet Research arm? :o
They finally found their Russians. It would be nice if the FBI took the meddling of all foreign countries as seriously.

I would be shocked of the Russian efforts sowed any more discord than what our main stream media already does.

When it comes to the allegation of instigating protests & counter protests, I very much want to know who these groups of individuals are who were recruited and if any of them engaged in violence.

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Post by Shatterface » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:33 am

Ex Czech agent claims Jeremy Corbyn was paid by Communist spies to pass information on and was rated 'number one' by Moscow - but the Labour leader brands the allegation 'smears'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html

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Post by MarcusAu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:49 am

While we are on the subject of the quality of our elected officials:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:53 am

De Lurch wrote:
When it comes to the allegation of instigating protests & counter protests, I very much want to know who these groups of individuals are who were recruited and if any of them engaged in violence.
https://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.com/ ... ment-1.pdf
The indictment describes various rallies the Russians organized (starting page 20, items 51-57) but I don't see any mention that violence occurred at any of them. These were all anti- Clinton/pro-Trump with the exception of after the elections they staged one pro-Trump and one anti_trump rally.

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Post by shoutinghorse » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:04 pm

Shatterface wrote: Ex Czech agent claims Jeremy Corbyn was paid by Communist spies to pass information on and was rated 'number one' by Moscow - but the Labour leader brands the allegation 'smears'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html
This headline just about sums him up.
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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:13 pm

shoutinghorse wrote:
Shatterface wrote: Ex Czech agent claims Jeremy Corbyn was paid by Communist spies to pass information on and was rated 'number one' by Moscow - but the Labour leader brands the allegation 'smears'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html
This headline just about sums him up.
My how times have changed. The Russians have gone from looking for useful idiots on the left to useful idiots on the right. :drool:

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:25 pm

A few of the ads that were posted by the Russian IRA:
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... 3?lo=ap_b1
In spite of the relatively low views of these ads apparently the same memes and text were reposted by various alt media types.
I recall seeing the one where Jebus is arm wrestling with Satan (not sure if that was originally posted by the Russians in regard to the election).

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:58 pm

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Post by Lsuoma » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:17 pm

Their webmaster is just shit. For some reason they are serving their certificate, as well as their content, from Akamai, their CDN. Lose, lose...

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Post by Guest_ae9d5722 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:21 pm

Good grief. Corbyn really does terrify the bosses and owners, huh. That they'd be reaching to such silliness.

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:50 pm

Nothing wrong here. And it needs to be said. Suck on that lib-tards. ;)

Should be noted too that PJW is alt-lite, not a blood ethno state fan. Yeah he can be a dope. Sometimes. But not usually.


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Re: There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:50 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:
Shatterface wrote: Ex Czech agent claims Jeremy Corbyn was paid by Communist spies to pass information on and was rated 'number one' by Moscow - but the Labour leader brands the allegation 'smears'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... laims.html
This headline just about sums him up.
My how times have changed. The Russians have gone from looking for useful idiots on the left to useful idiots on the right. :drool:
There's never a shortage of idiots, but today the idiots on the left are more likely to be useful to Saudi Arabia or Iran (depending on whether they live in the US or the UK).

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Post by SM1957 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:51 pm

If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:59 pm

2016 was her year. A lifetime of work and plotting, a woman President consolidating black rule, the roll out of the natural liberal order.

Her loss was a loss for the world.

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Post by Bhurzum » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:18 pm

SM1957 wrote: If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?
Vagina.

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Post by MarcusAu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:22 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
SM1957 wrote: If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?
Vagina.
Cunt.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:26 pm

SM1957 wrote: If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?
If Bin Laden only spent a few hundred thousand to bring down the Twin Towers why do people think those 3000 people deserved to live or those buildings should still be standing?
Actually, that wasn't the only operation the Russians were involved in toward the campaign and I don't know anyone that thinks it was only the intervention of the Russians that defeated her. Who is saying that?
What the Russians did in this campaign likely were somewhat of a factor in the campaign but it is difficult say how much of an effect it had. My opinion was that their hacking and releasing of the DNC emails had more effect than the activity described in the recent indictments. (Those are by the way, 2 different matters, the emails aren't mentioned in these indictments.)

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Post by Ape+lust » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:30 pm

Brive1987 wrote: Nothing wrong here. And it needs to be said. Suck on that lib-tards. ;)

Should be noted too that PJW is alt-lite, not a blood ethno state fan. Yeah he can be a dope. Sometimes. But not usually.

The spears and tooth necklaces are silly enough, but I noticed from a fly-through they put thatched roofs on the skyscrapers.

Thank goodness this Flintstone futurism was self-inflicted :lol:

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:41 pm

Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:50 pm
Nothing wrong here. And it needs to be said. Suck on that lib-tards. ;)

Should be noted too that PJW is alt-lite, not a blood ethno state fan. Yeah he can be a dope. Sometimes. But not usually.

Making fun of the dopey "Woke" people/the SocJus/Critical Race Theory fans/Regressives is easy. They're pompous self-righteous jackasses who follow on ideology as loopy as creationism. The Woke hot takes on the Black Panther movie are especially dumb. We've all seen them, we've all laughed at them, or shook our heads.

PJW is a bit disingenuous for saying "why have we become so partisan" while he's working for an incredibly partisan "news" outlet, but other than that this video is fine, I don't find anything to disagree with him on this issue, the "woke" reaction to Black Panther has been laughable, the segregation and self-segregation hot takes are cringy, the movie itself is ironically enough about a black ethno-state surrounded by walls (but it's OK because it's a BLACK ethno state), thinking that fiction is evidence for reality is really retarded, etc.

Then again Thunderfoot or The Amazing Atheist (who, incidentally, guest-stars on the PJW video) could have made the same video, and without working with Alex fucking Jones. If PJW wanted to he could turn into an independent Youtuber like Sargon or TJ or countless others, and he could still make the same kind of videos and have the same kind of audience. But piggybacking on Alex Jones is how PJW can stay afloat and call himself a "journalist" despite being yet another Youtube pop culture critic.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:45 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
SM1957 wrote: If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?
If Bin Laden only spent a few hundred thousand to bring down the Twin Towers why do people think those 3000 people deserved to live or those buildings should still be standing?
Actually, that wasn't the only operation the Russians were involved in toward the campaign and I don't know anyone that thinks it was only the intervention of the Russians that defeated her. Who is saying that?
What the Russians did in this campaign likely were somewhat of a factor in the campaign but it is difficult say how much of an effect it had. My opinion was that their hacking and releasing of the DNC emails had more effect than the activity described in the recent indictments. (Those are by the way, 2 different matters, the emails aren't mentioned in these indictments.)
Clinton defeated Clinton. She ran a terrible campaign and would have struggled more than she thought even without the emails.

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Post by MarcusAu » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:48 pm

You keep disparaging Alex Jones, Kirbmarc but can you really answer his valid concerns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAh0r4C6Q2Q

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Post by Guest_d2e60302 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:48 pm

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Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:26 pm

Actually, that wasn't the only operation the Russians were involved in toward the campaign and I don't know anyone that thinks it was only the intervention of the Russians that defeated her. Who is saying that?
What the Russians did in this campaign likely were somewhat of a factor in the campaign but it is difficult say how much of an effect it had. My opinion was that their hacking and releasing of the DNC emails had more effect than the activity described in the recent indictments. (Those are by the way, 2 different matters, the emails aren't mentioned in these indictments.)
In September 2018, CNN, Chicago Tribune, others reported that H-Dog won't rule out questioning Trump's legitimacy, pending a probe into Vladimer's activities
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

Then, if you google https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+ ... n+michigan you'll find lots of claims that Nikita targeted Wisconsin and Michigan was key to defeating H-Dog.
(CNN)A number of Russian-linked Facebook ads specifically targeted Michigan and Wisconsin, two states crucial to Donald Trump's victory last November, according to four sources with direct knowledge of the situation.

Some of the Russian ads appeared highly sophisticated in their targeting of key demographic groups in areas of the states that turned out to be pivotal, two of the sources said. The ads employed a series of divisive messages aimed at breaking through the clutter of campaign ads online, including promoting anti-Muslim messages, sources said.
It has been unclear until now exactly which regions of the country were targeted by the ads. And while one source said that a large number of ads appeared in areas of the country that were not heavily contested in the elections, some clearly were geared at swaying public opinion in the most heavily contested battlegrounds.
Michigan saw the closest presidential contest in the country -- Trump beat Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by about 10,700 votes out of nearly 4.8 million ballots cast. Wisconsin was also one of the tightest states, and Trump won there by only about 22,700 votes. Both states, which Trump carried by less than 1%, were key to his victory in the Electoral College.
There are also claims that Ivan hacked in and removed eligible voters from the registers in North Carolina (and other places?)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/p ... cking.html
The calls started flooding in from hundreds of irate North Carolina voters just after 7 a.m. on Election Day last November.

Dozens were told they were ineligible to vote and were turned away at the polls, even when they displayed current registration cards. Others were sent from one polling place to another, only to be rejected. Scores of voters were incorrectly told they had cast ballots days earlier. In one precinct, voting halted for two hours.

Susan Greenhalgh, a troubleshooter at a nonpartisan election monitoring group, was alarmed. Most of the complaints came from Durham, a blue-leaning county in a swing state. The problems involved electronic poll books — tablets and laptops, loaded with check-in software, that have increasingly replaced the thick binders of paper used to verify voters’ identities and registration status. She knew that the company that provided Durham’s software, VR Systems, had been penetrated by Russian hackers months before.

“It felt like tampering, or some kind of cyberattack,” Ms. Greenhalgh said about the voting troubles in Durham.

There are plenty of other reasons for such breakdowns — local officials blamed human error and software malfunctions — and no clear-cut evidence of digital sabotage has emerged, much less a Russian role in it. Despite the disruptions, a record number of votes were cast in Durham, following a pattern there of overwhelming support for Democratic presidential candidates, this time Hillary Clinton.

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But months later, for Ms. Greenhalgh, other election security experts and some state officials, questions still linger about what happened that day in Durham as well as other counties in North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia and Arizona.

After a presidential campaign scarred by Russian meddling, local, state and federal agencies have conducted little of the type of digital forensic investigation required to assess the impact, if any, on voting in at least 21 states whose election systems were targeted by Russian hackers, according to interviews with nearly two dozen national security and state officials and election technology specialists.

The assaults on the vast back-end election apparatus — voter-registration operations, state and local election databases, e-poll books and other equipment — have received far less attention than other aspects of the Russian interference, such as the hacking of Democratic emails and spreading of false or damaging information about Mrs. Clinton. Yet the hacking of electoral systems was more extensive than previously disclosed, The New York Times found.
you can also google "hillary would be president if not for"
https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary ... if+not+for+

to find out the answer is robots, but I think at this point, robots basically means Andrei's robots.

again, three swing states, at least two of which were targeted by Boris.

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary- ... ys-2017-10
Hillary Clinton could have been president if not for robots, a new study says

If three swing states had had 2% fewer robots, Hillary Clinton could have beaten Donald Trump, a new study finds.
Working-class voters might have swung toward Clinton if fewer people's jobs were at risk, the researchers claim.
The key states included Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:53 pm

Clinton's own "basket of deplorables" speech probably had more effect than all the ads the Russians bought (less so than emails, maybe, but still).

Picking Lena Dunham of all people to do campaign outreach in North Carolina, underestimating Trump in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, overestimating the gap in her favor in Florida, having a badly thought out campaign slogan and campaign platform, the "let them learn code" plan for former coal extraction employees, etc., were all mistakes that Clinton made.

It's good for the US to look into what happened about the leaked emails from a national security perspective, but the Clinton fans who think that Russia stole what was rightfully hers are pathetic.


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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:58 pm

MarcusAu wrote: You keep disparaging Alex Jones, Kirbmarc but can you really answer his valid concerns?
:lol: I'm not sure whether the guy is trolling all of us or is really just nuts.

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Post by shoutinghorse » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:17 pm

MarcusAu wrote: You keep disparaging Alex Jones, Kirbmarc but can you really answer his valid concerns?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAh0r4C6Q2Q
I would love to live for a day inside Alex Jones' mind. It would be one hell if a ride methinks. :)

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Post by Guest_d2e60302 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:24 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:53 pm
Clinton's own "basket of deplorables" speech probably had more effect than all the ads the Russians bought (less so than emails, maybe, but still).

Picking Lena Dunham of all people to do campaign outreach in North Carolina, underestimating Trump in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, overestimating the gap in her favor in Florida, having a badly thought out campaign slogan and campaign platform, the "let them learn code" plan for former coal extraction employees, etc., were all mistakes that Clinton made.

It's good for the US to look into what happened about the leaked emails from a national security perspective, but the Clinton fans who think that Russia stole what was rightfully hers are pathetic.
I think it's the forgotten 2nd Basket she mentioned that did Clinton in.

Calling 1/4 Americans, who were Republicans deplorable was a gross, disgusting thing to do, but they weren't supposed to vote Democrat anyway.

But the 2nd Basket was, and she was confused and frustrated they were not, but the truth is, that 2nd Basket had been abandoned by Obama and the DNC in favor of Wall Street money and young, big city, coastal voters. She had assumed the would vote her way and otherwise that Wall Street and the recent grads would fill in the gap. And at that speech, she claimed she was going to get that other basket back, but she didn't do a thing, and worse, she ignored the rust belt. She's a fucking idiot and while Trump scares the hell out of me, and makes me angry, I am still very glad she's not president.

The best scenario is that Trump does his 4 years, gets thrown out, and two reformed, grown up parties return. But fat chance we see that happening.
I know there are only 60 days left to make our case — and don't get complacent; don't see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think, “Well, he’s done this time.” We are living in a volatile political environment.

You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They’re racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic — Islamophobic — you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America.

But the "other" basket — the other basket — and I know because I look at this crowd I see friends from all over America here: I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas and — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that "other" basket of people are people who feel the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures; and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but — he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.
— Hillary Clinton,

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Guest_d2e60302: I'm not sure whether that post was supposed to dispute what you quoted me as writing, but if so you may wish to look at the statement I was addressing. SM 1957 wrote that it is believed it only took a paltry few million to bring down Hillary by using those ads.
My point was that not many (if any) people believe that it was those ads and the staged rallies that defeated Hillary.
FYI Here is my take on the most important factors:
1. She was a poor candidate that ran a terrible campaign.
2. The republicans spent years "investigating her crimes" through oversight committees and were able to throw enough dirt at her to get a lot of it to stick. When there was no offence charged they attacked the FBI and the justice department for not doing their political dirty work for them. When an intimidated Comey announced a reopening of the investigation that may well have been enough to tip the balance toward Trump.
3. The DNC emails sowed a lot of discord in the dems and likely convinced a lot of dems to stay home on election day, if not outright switch their vote.
It was a fairly close election, so it is possible that a single factor, like Comey reopening the investigation may have changed the outcome. I can't prove that, but saying it wouldn't have changed the outcome is also unprovable and I think a poorer bet.

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Post by Guest_d2e60302 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:49 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:41 pm
Guest_d2e60302: I'm not sure whether that post was supposed to dispute what you quoted me as writing, ...
Not dispute what you wrote overall, but just to respond to your question
Actually, that wasn't the only operation the Russians were involved in toward the campaign and I don't know anyone that thinks it was only the intervention of the Russians that defeated her. Who is saying that?
That the actual claim the Russians defeated her and if they weren't present, she would be president was common and made by all the best journalists in all the best journals. And Hillary herself lent credence to that claim by saying she would not rule out questioning Trump's legitimacy depending on what an investigation finds.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:50 pm

Kirbmarc wrote:
It's good for the US to look into what happened about the leaked emails from a national security perspective, but the Clinton fans who think that Russia stole what was rightfully hers are pathetic.
All the evidence was that those hacked, and stolen and not innocently "leaked".
Am I to believe that you think it is ethical and legal to hack into private emails?
How fair is it uncover one side's dirty, but not illegal secrets but not the other side's to throw an election? I am truly shocked if you think that type of crap is OK.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:57 pm
Two million more voters wanted her than trump.
Obama won two elections with very high electoral college margins against candidates who (at least on paper) were much better than Donald Trump. His popular vote margins were incredibly high: almost ten million voters in 2008, almost five in 2012.

Clinton pretty much got the same votes that Obama did in 2012 (100,000 less), but that's not really representative of how the election went down state by state.

Clinton got almost 1 million more votes than Obama in 2012 in California and improved on Obama's numbers in Colorado, Arizona (lost by a smaller margin), the District of Columbia, Florida (which she lost because Trump had a massive surge of votes compared to Romney),Georgia (lost by a sensibly smaller margin), Texas (both she and Trump had big surges of votes there, probably because of both the Latino and anti-immigration votes), New York (a big swing in an already very blue state) Massachussets, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, and Illinois (small gains) Virginia and Nevada (VERY small gains).

In all other states she lost votes, with the most dramatic losses being Ohio (almost 430,000 votes lost), Wisconsin (240,000 votes lost) Michigan (390,000 votes lost), Minnesota (Clinton still won, but lost 180,000 votes), Maine (50,000 votes lost), Pennsylvania (60,000 votes lost) West Virginia (40,000 votes lost)

Basically Clinton swamped Trump in California and New York, made some progress in terms of votes in Texas, Georgia and Arizona, improved on Obama's success in Colorado and got out the vote in Florida, held her ground on a bunch of other states, but did bad to terribly in the rest of the country.

Meanwhile Trump got creamed in California and New York, saw some big Democratic surge in Arizona and Georgia, more or less held his ground elsewhere, managed to get out the Republican vote in Florida, and captured the vote of the Rust Belt and Maine.

Clinton's strategy only gave her significantly larger margins in states that she was already sure to win. Trump's strategy allowed him to infiltrate into Democratic strongholds.

A 2020 strategy which overestimates the significant "blue wave" and underestimates the Trumpist swing of the Rust Belt and the consolidation of the Trump fandom runs the risk of being a repeat of 2016. It's not impossible that Trump confirms his victories in the Rust Belt, or even that Minnesota might swing Republican.

Trying to get yet more votes in California and New York by appealing to the "Woke" cultural elites of the East and West coast without offering anything concrete to the northern states which were won by Trump might be a costly mistake.

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Post by free thoughtpolice » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:06 pm

That the actual claim the Russians defeated her and if they weren't present, she would be president was common and made by all the best journalists in all the best journals. And Hillary herself lent credence to that claim by saying she would not rule out questioning Trump's legitimacy depending on what an investigation finds.
Given how close the election was, I think it was a possibility that that without the hacked emails she would have won, but then that is different than what I was addressing with that quote, which was the $1.25 million / month ad and rally campaign which likely had a much smaller effect than the DNC email hack.
If the investigation shows that Trump broke the law to win the election then Clinton would be absolutely correct to question Trumps legitimacy, even if it may be too late to overturn the results, at least IMHO.
On the record, I am not a fan of Clinton either.

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:06 pm

free thoughtpolice wrote: Kirbmarc wrote:
It's good for the US to look into what happened about the leaked emails from a national security perspective, but the Clinton fans who think that Russia stole what was rightfully hers are pathetic.
All the evidence was that those hacked, and stolen and not innocently "leaked".
Am I to believe that you think it is ethical and legal to hack into private emails?
How fair is it uncover one side's dirty, but not illegal secrets but not the other side's to throw an election? I am truly shocked if you think that type of crap is OK.
Calm down. You make too many assumptions on the basis of a single word you don't like. The emails were leaked...to Wikileaks. That's not a judgement of value, just a statement of fact.

No, I don't think that what happened is ethical or legal or "OK". As I've written, it's a matter of national security, of reinforcing protection for sensitive material, and of teaching people how phishing works. I have no objections about the US investigating how and why the security breach happened, who exactly was involved and to what extent, and implementing strategies to avoid it happening in the future.

The thing I found pathetic is the insistence of the Clinton fan that it was the email scandal that defeated her. It surely played a role in Clinton's loss, it's hard to say how big it was, and the scandal is too often used an excuse from the Clinton camp to avoid facing their responsibilities for their mistakes in the campaign.

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Post by Suet Cardigan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:07 pm

Bhurzum wrote:
SM1957 wrote: If Hillary Clinton spent 1 billion dollars on her campaign, and the Russians spent a million a month and defeated her, then why does she think she deserved to win?
Vagina.


I'm slightly pissed at the moment. I've just downloaded this vid and I'm playing it on a loop. It's amusing me no end. images/smilies/obscene/drinkingdrunk.gif

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Post by Kirbmarc » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:12 pm

My biggest concern is that the Democrats will use the Russian/email shenanigans as an excuse to double down with their SocJus-friendly strategy which yields votes in New York and California but alienates people in other parts of the US, and that they might pay dearly for it by failing to capitalize on Trump's many, many flaws and mistakes.

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Post by Brive1987 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:19 pm

Ape+lust wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Nothing wrong here. And it needs to be said. Suck on that lib-tards. ;)

Should be noted too that PJW is alt-lite, not a blood ethno state fan. Yeah he can be a dope. Sometimes. But not usually.

h.ttps://youtu.be/RSe1tbWicys
The spears and tooth necklaces are silly enough, but I noticed from a fly-through they put thatched roofs on the skyscrapers.

Thank goodness this Flintstone futurism was self-inflicted :lol:

https://imgur.com/zdNu3Uw.jpg
PZ is wondering why the mythical, magical non-colonial state of wankara has despotic kings. Idiot. Sharka Zulu has long been considered the high point in Black African non white directed evolved development.

This whole BP thing just makes me think aligned blacks are pathetically qualified for some pity which I’ll wilfully withhold. Their libtard white allies had already prequalified. Even the most mongo white identitarian avoided spurging on Thor like this.

Seriously. A black ethno-state powered by third party, unearned magic which produces a fusion of primitive motifs and classic sci-fi? Cover of Time? Fuck me.

Naturally the studio$ Will leverage like hell out of whatever they can. Feminism for WW, race for BP. The irony is palpable.

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