In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Will it be getting chemeowtherapy?

[John D]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Oh no. My condolences. I love my fucking dog so much.... my heart breaks to think I will outlive this little shit. There is some suffering in this life. Hope your cat doesn't suffer too much.

[Lsuoma]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Will it be getting chemeowtherapy?

Fuck me, but I'm handing these out like speeding tickets at Brands Hatch recently. Must be the 21-year-old Talisker.

Best. Post. Evah!

[KiwiInOz]

We recently made being a Kiwi illegal here, to get rid of the bastards.

What about anteaters? ...

We intercept them at the borders and send them back. Can't have those bloody furriners here.

[KiwiInOz]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Will it be getting chemeowtherapy?

Fuck me, but I'm handing these out like speeding tickets at Brands Hatch recently. Must be the 21-year-old Talisker.

Best. Post. Evah!

It's getting a bit like PZ's OM. Everyone is getting one.

Except me. Bastard tit.

[dogen]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Will it be getting chemeowtherapy?

Fuck me, but I'm handing these out like speeding tickets at Brands Hatch recently. Must be the 21-year-old Talisker.

Best. Post. Evah!

Is there a suppository of BPE posts? For posterity, as it were.

[Lsuoma]

This misses some of the early ones where I wasn't so diligent about tagging.

search.php?keywords=best+post+evah

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Interesting: what would be "racist" from the right magically becomes "racial" from the left.

From The Guardian, of course.

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[Brive1987]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

[Bhurzum]

1-- Saw Roger Waters perform last night. Amazing. I cried through the whole damn thing. I cannot believe he's 73.

I'm turning green with envy. Waters is one of my "must see" bucket-list items although every time he plays the UK, something pops up and throws a massive wrench in the works. I think I'll need to widen my net and travel to catch him. Also, if I do manage to see him live, I hope he plays this...

[youtube][/youtube]

The above track gives me serious Leonard Cohen vibes :cry:

2-- Was awarded a grant today. Small, but its mine.

Drinks are on you! Congrats!

3-- Dr. Who has lived how many generations as a male, a regeneration appears female, so now everyone is calling him 'she'? Has anyone asked Dr. Who their preferred pronouns? Not joking, wtf? Seriously.

:dance:

[Guest_396d7a48]

The announcement of Dr. Who being female by the BBC is nothing compared to the shock when the BBC announced on Blue Peter that Fred now wanted to be called Freda.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Sorry. What kind? Treatable?

[MacGruberKnows]

The announcement of Dr. Who being female by the BBC is nothing compared to the shock when the BBC announced on Blue Peter that Fred now wanted to be called Freda.

They should have hired a gender non-binary and renamed it 'Dr. What?'

[AndrewV69]

Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

Blogger is a complete cunt -- an hyper-protective, belligerent father of a transboi railing against the world and society and the universe. Ex-minister too, so still fundie by nature.

Post is mostly 'shut up and listen, and don't forget to beg for your ally cookie', but this paragraph takes the cake:

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

I dare you all to comment. He wrote about he dumped a girlfriend for wrongthink immediately following sex, so his ban-hammer must be terrible and swift.

I am under the impression that people who are into Gender Studies are nutbars. The further into it they get the more crazed they become. This one denies that there is such a thing as biological sex.

[youtube][/youtube]

I got other things to do with my time than engage these crazies.

[Brive1987]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Bugger. Commiserations.

[feathers]

The 'TARDIS is like a vagina' thing I remember from some Doctor Who porn that I accidentaly bumped into one day.

Dentist's waiting room, eh? Fell off a lorry, eh?

[feathers]

Did you just doxx abear?

quote doxx unquote.

http://static4.businessinsider.com/imag ... -bonds.jpg

[Hunt]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

Hey PZ, what were you just saying about those fucking murderous cops? Speak up, I can't hear you.

[feathers]

Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

Blogger is a complete cunt -- an hyper-protective, belligerent father of a transboi railing against the world and society and the universe. Ex-minister too, so still fundie by nature.

Ok, who is this? :twisted:

whatever • 3 hours ago

I agree completely.

I also want to let you and all your readers know that I am Jewish and Anti-Zionism IS Anti-Semitism.

For anyone who is not Jewish, shut the f please about. I get to decide what is anti-semitism, not you, and no, you are not invited to the party or get to call yourself an ally of Jews if you think otherwise.

[shoutinghorse]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

If any woman needs shooting, the whore in the black hijab for showing too much flesh.

[MarcusAu]

If any woman needs shooting, the whore in the black hijab for showing too much flesh.

This comment is culturally insensitive.

Surely the proper punishment is stoning.

[Hunt]

If any woman needs shooting, the whore in the black hijab for showing too much flesh.

This comment is culturally insensitive.

Surely the proper punishment is stoning.

Marijuana isn't allowed in Islam. Oh, I see what you mean.

[CommanderTuvok]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

I assume BLM and the SJWs are arguing this is another example of systemic, institutional white supremacist racism, again?

[Hunt]

Can't wait to hear the story they come up with to justify this shooting. Unarmed yoga instructor in pajamas. If this guy walks, there's going to be hell to pay.

[Kirbmarc]

Can't wait to hear the story they come up with to justify this shooting. Unarmed yoga instructor in pajamas. If this guy walks, there's going to be hell to pay.

The US police seems to have a problem with armed response. As I've previously written many times the aim of protests like Black Lives Matters should have been to expose this problem. Instead it degenerated into identitarian bullshit and entryism.

In general it seems like when you color your civil rights/social issue protests with an identitarian flavor you're exposed to all forms of distractions from the main aim of your protest. Maybe they should have called the movement "Stop Police Shootings" instead of "Black Lives Matter" to focus on a single, specific problem which exists and affects everyone (and needs fixing) instead of providing an outlet for Critical Race Theory.

The deviation from the main goal of a protest/association/movement seems to be a constant with the SocJus. Atheism/skepticism movements deal with separation of church and state and secularism project, then the SJWs sweep in and demand that all the focus is given to the problems of "identity", of "intersectionalism", etc. etc.

One of the consequences of the PoMo infection is that genuine social issues are turned into an occasion for division along identity lines and for pushing "narratives".

[shoutinghorse]

And still he couldn't win. :clap:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... orbyn.html

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Sorry. What kind? Treatable?

Whoops, that came off as very insensitive, sorry. A friend's cat also had a diagnosis of lymphoma and is debating treatment options, interested in cost and risks.

[MarcusAu]

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[gurugeorge]

As Diversity & Comics says, if the best thing you can say about a movie is that Michael Keaton, who does a great job in everything he's in, did a great job in this movie, you're in trouble.

Truly, SJWs ruin everything they touch.

This is rather odd. I actually enjoyed the latest Spidey film, and I didn't sense any particular infection with SJWism. [/quote]

You didn't notice the ethnic replacement of all his friends?

[MarcusAu]

What is the opposite of a whitewash?

[MarcusAu]

And now to flashback more than a decade - Here's the story of Micah Ian Wright (if anyone hasn't heard it)- a former comic writer than was let go when it was found that he lied about his army service. (He also tended play one-upmanship games when criticizing others too - making him more than a bit of a douche in retrospect).

[youtube][/youtube]

it's an interesting case because he was quite left leaning, so I tended to agree with him, and enjoyed his comics work (eg Stormwatch: Team Achilles - which was cancelled mid-run) - but he obviously had issues.


He also had couple of books of remixed WWII era propaganda - endorsed by Kurt Vonnegut & Howard Zinn.

https://www.amazon.com/Back-Attack-Well ... ian+wright

When the scandal broke I remember Vonnegut commenting that he was not surprised as people tend to lie - and that it said something about human nature.

This was before the rise of the SJWs - but the author of the 'Diversity & Comics' youtube channel (who tends rightwards politically) does not make much distinction between left / liberal / regressive - so for him it's a moot point.

Obviously the end does not justify the means - and you should be careful who your friends / associates / allies are I suppose. (If there is any take away from all this).

[Matt Cavanaugh]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

The woman on the right looks like a condom.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

I am under the impression that people who are into Gender Studies are nutbars. The further into it they get the more crazed they become. This one denies that there is such a thing as biological sex.

[youtube][/youtube]

I got other things to do with my time than engage these crazies.

I nominated that dude in the video for the Cunties™, calling him a "fag Himmler".

[jet_lagg]

As Diversity & Comics says, if the best thing you can say about a movie is that Michael Keaton, who does a great job in everything he's in, did a great job in this movie, you're in trouble.

Truly, SJWs ruin everything they touch.

This is rather odd. I actually enjoyed the latest Spidey film, and I didn't sense any particular infection with SJWism.

You didn't notice the ethnic replacement of all his friends?[/quote]

Flash was the only character they brown-washed. The rest are new characters entirely. Sort of anyway. They ripped off the Miles Morales mythology without admitting that's what they were doing.

[jet_lagg]

The one fucking time I don't use preview...

[MarcusAu]

The one fucking time I don't use preview...

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[Lsuoma]

One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

Sorry. What kind? Treatable?

Small-cell. Seeing oncologist on Thursday.

[Lsuoma]

What is the opposite of a whitewash?

http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/133900/133967.jpg

[Old_ones]

Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

Blogger is a complete cunt -- an hyper-protective, belligerent father of a transboi railing against the world and society and the universe. Ex-minister too, so still fundie by nature.

Post is mostly 'shut up and listen, and don't forget to beg for your ally cookie', but this paragraph takes the cake:

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

I dare you all to comment. He wrote about he dumped a girlfriend for wrongthink immediately following sex, so his ban-hammer must be terrible and swift.

I am under the impression that people who are into Gender Studies are nutbars. The further into it they get the more crazed they become. This one denies that there is such a thing as biological sex.

[youtube][/youtube]

I got other things to do with my time than engage these crazies.

If you say you don't believe in evolution because of your Christian perspective lefties and science geeks will laugh at you. If you say you don't believe in it because of "cutting edge gender studies" a significant number of the same people (PZ Myers I'm looking a you) will oooh and ahhh and give you talks at skepticon.

To address Matt's quote, if your "cutting edge peer reviewed... science of gender" contradicts "elementary bio book" then you are the one with a problem and you can shove your PhD in whatever studies right up your ass. People are calling bullshit you you for the same reason that physicists called bullshit on the chemists publishing "cold fusion" and rightly so. At university, bio majors generally have to take physics chemistry and math, chem majors take physics and math, and physics majors take math. Gender studies majors and social science majors should be taking biology, chemistry, physics and math. If they can't hack it, they should go work at taco bell instead of joining academia.

[Mr. X, Indeed]

Gender studies majors and social science majors should be taking biology, chemistry, physics and math. If they can't hack it, they should go work at taco bell instead of joining academia.

Working at Taco Bell would involve working with their hands, getting dirty, and producing something. You can't expect these people to lower themselves to that. That sort of work is for the rabble.

[Shatterface]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

The woman on the right looks like a condom.

https://resizing.flixster.com/xiS7gkrgv ... EwNjQ7Nzk4

[feathers]

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163
The woman on the right looks like a condom.

Then here's one in hijab (artist's impression):

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OvOFubqucfk/maxresdefault.jpg

[Sunder]

Haven't checked Jerry's in a few days. Every third post is on determinism now.

[Lsuoma]

Haven't checked Jerry's in a few days. Every third post is on determinism now.

Poor bastard has no choice...

[jet_lagg]

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

If You Don't Understand Christianity, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary definition of God, holding up the bible, or referring to Comparative Religious Studies 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a doctorate in divinity and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials from journals like Themelios. If you do not understand theology, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

[Sunder]

Thing is, among identitarians, the white gender studies PhD would automatically lose any argument to a black layperson with the correct "lived experience." So it's a farce to even pretend identity politics is a matter of education.

[Tigzy]

[youtube][/youtube]

Dude, just because you're clearly not getting any biological sex, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

[Kirbmarc]

If you say you don't believe in evolution because of your Christian perspective lefties and science geeks will laugh at you. If you say you don't believe in it because of "cutting edge gender studies" a significant number of the same people (PZ Myers I'm looking a you) will oooh and ahhh and give you talks at skepticon.

To address Matt's quote, if your "cutting edge peer reviewed... science of gender" contradicts "elementary bio book" then you are the one with a problem and you can shove your PhD in whatever studies right up your ass. People are calling bullshit you you for the same reason that physicists called bullshit on the chemists publishing "cold fusion" and rightly so. At university, bio majors generally have to take physics chemistry and math, chem majors take physics and math, and physics majors take math. Gender studies majors and social science majors should be taking biology, chemistry, physics and math. If they can't hack it, they should go work at taco bell instead of joining academia.

The problem is that gender studies aren't just anti-science, they're pseudo-science. If someone is outright anti-science it's relatively easy to prove them wrong, just debunk their arguments with evidence and you're done. Young Earth Creationists or Flat Earthers or Truthers belong to this category. Anti-science people have to create complicated conspiracy theories to support their ideas, and the more you debunk their claims the more complicated their theories become.

Pseudo-science is harder to fight because it doesn't openly contradict the results of science, but it builds arguments based on wordplay, on special pleading, on misdirection, on focusing on edge cases and rare events without openly contradicting the available evidence. The "intelligent design" crowd is pseudo-scientific, just like various woo-meisters like Deepak Chopra, or the Cold Fusion cranks. Pseudo-scientists appropriate the jargon and even, to a certain extent, the results of genuine scientific studies. Pseudo-scientists can also create conspiracy theories, but they're usually more subdued in their approach, limiting the conspiracy to "mainstream science" and calling themselves "alternative thinkers".

Gender studies are definitely part of pseudo-science. They use motte and bailey techniques, obfuscation, wordplay, shifting definitions and a focus on edge cases and rare events ("intersex people exist, so there's no such thing as biological sex"). They play their game on ambiguities and double meanings (for example, the shape genitalia vs. personal identification, for example they say "people who identify as men also menstruate, so there can't be any specific effect of menstruation on the behavior of women") they interpret phenomena of different origin as evidence for their pet theory, by fitting the data to theory instead of fitting the theory to the data (in the case of gender studies, they interpret a series of genetic or hormonal dysfunctions of various origin and with various results as a "sex spectrum").

It's not enough to debunk pseudo-scientists. You also have to criticize the philosophical underpinnings of their theories. You have to explain while they're distorting the scientific method to fit their assumptions. You have to analyze those assumptions and see what makes them non-falsifiable and incompatible with a scientific analysis.

Some people, like King Crockoduck or Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay, are trying to do this systematically, but there's little coordination, confusion about the assumptions of Gender Studies/Critical Theory, and the Critical Theory fanboys have enough wiggle room to accuse those who criticize them of "naivety" or "scientism".

There needs to be a coordinated effort from people who analyze human behaviors, societies or politics from a genuinely scientific perspective to call out and criticize pseudo-science in their fields in a coherent, meaningful way. Sacred cows of the Po-Mo Critical Theory brigade, like Standpoint Theory or Strong Objectivity, need to be dissected and exposed as ultimately shown as incompatible with the scientific method.

Unfortunately few people are willing to do this, because if you go down this path the outrage machine will call you a bigot, a shitlord, a racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic monster, worse than Hitler, and try to ruin your career by associating you with unsavory groups.

However I think that the tide is turning. The excesses of the SocJus are alienating more and more academics from their theories, even some far-leftist academics, and sooner or later the social power of the SocJus outrage machine will grind to a halt.

Then the fun will begin. :popcorn:

[feathers]

Dude, just because you're clearly not getting any biological sex, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

- What can you tell us about biological sex?
- It doesn't exist.
- You mean you don't get any?

[Kirbmarc]

If You Don't Understand Christianity, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary definition of God, holding up the bible, or referring to Comparative Religious Studies 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a doctorate in divinity and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials from journals like Themelios. If you do not understand theology, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

Someone (his name escapes me now, but I believe he taught biology at a small university in a US Midwestern state) once had created an argument to reply to this kind of reasoning. How was it called? The Courtesan's Reply? Ah, no, wait, that was Dick Carrier's Bat Signal...

[Really?]

ERV really needs to stop it with all of the conference presenting and grant receiving and HIV researching to focus on what is really important: ensuring that her scholarship incorporates enough research from women and people of color.

Why don't you engage the good professor in a scholarly discussion of the--

Nevermind.

[Old_ones]

It's not enough to debunk pseudo-scientists. You also have to criticize the philosophical underpinnings of their theories. You have to explain while they're distorting the scientific method to fit their assumptions. You have to analyze those assumptions and see what makes them non-falsifiable and incompatible with a scientific analysis.

Some people, like King Crockoduck or Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay, are trying to do this systematically, but there's little coordination, confusion about the assumptions of Gender Studies/Critical Theory, and the Critical Theory fanboys have enough wiggle room to accuse those who criticize them of "naivety" or "scientism".

There needs to be a coordinated effort from people who analyze human behaviors, societies or politics from a genuinely scientific perspective to call out and criticize pseudo-science in their fields in a coherent, meaningful way. Sacred cows of the Po-Mo Critical Theory brigade, like Standpoint Theory or Strong Objectivity, need to be dissected and exposed as ultimately shown as incompatible with the scientific method.

Unfortunately few people are willing to do this, because if you go down this path the outrage machine will call you a bigot, a shitlord, a racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic monster, worse than Hitler, and try to ruin your career by associating you with unsavory groups.

Evolutionary Psychology might be able to accomplish this without the confrontation. Since it tries to use biological mechanisms as a basis instead of critical theory bullshit, its success would force a realignment in the foundations of the social sciences. If we end up with a situation where there are two competing schools of thought in the social sciences and one can produce useful results while the other cannot, then it will be a replay of the debate they had in geology about plate techtonics. Eventually the flunkies in the "studies" departments would have to follow the psychologists out of embarrassment. So as much as I like Peter Boghossian, I think Gaad Saad is a bigger threat to postmodernism.

[Shatterface]

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

If You Don't Understand Christianity, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary definition of God, holding up the bible, or referring to Comparative Religious Studies 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a doctorate in divinity and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials from journals like Themelios. If you do not understand theology, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

In gender studies 'PhD' and 'peer reviewed' just mean 'comparable with orthodoxy'. There's no external reality against which to judge it.

[Sunder]

Evolutionary Psychology might be able to accomplish this without the confrontation. Since it tries to use biological mechanisms as a basis instead of critical theory bullshit, its success would force a realignment in the foundations of the social sciences. If we end up with a situation where there are two competing schools of thought in the social sciences and one can produce useful results while the other cannot, then it will be a replay of the debate they had in geology about plate techtonics. Eventually the flunkies in the "studies" departments would have to follow the psychologists out of embarrassment. So as much as I like Peter Boghossian, I think Gaad Saad is a bigger threat to postmodernism.

Lots of damage can be done in the meantime. I'd prefer if there were a way to painlessly excise critical theory and its myriad branches from the academic world and let everyone else continue on as normal. As it is we're having to deal with pushback both from extreme conservatives who think any higher education, STEM included, is all liberal indoctrination, as well as the utilitarians who are ostensibly on STEM's side but expect all education to come with an itemized ROI. To the latter, if your work doesn't directly benefit industry, why are you even doing it? I'd rather tell all these groups to fuck off alongside the identitarians.

[Kirbmarc]

Lots of damage can be done in the meantime. I'd prefer if there were a way to painlessly excise critical theory and its myriad branches from the academic world and let everyone else continue on as normal. As it is we're having to deal with pushback both from extreme conservatives who think any higher education, STEM included, is all liberal indoctrination, as well as the utilitarians who are ostensibly on STEM's side but expect all education to come with an itemized ROI. To the latter, if your work doesn't directly benefit industry, why are you even doing it? I'd rather tell all these groups to fuck off alongside the identitarians.

Call me cynical if you want but I don't think there is any way to gain things without pain. The best case scenario would be for the political left to reject the SocJus, so a healthy balance of sane leftists, sane "centrists" and sane right-wing people could criticize the Critical Theory takeover of academia. But that's going to be hard. Even moderate criticism of identity politics, the kind Bernie Sanders attempted to do, can lead to people calling you a "white supremacist", and the sane left is too hostage of its own reputation with the insanely partisan media to call out the crazies. The same thing is true for the sane right and the insane right-wing media.

Modern media seem to have exasperated the tendency towards giving spaces to nutters who attract attention to your message. Clickbait is a goldmine for both the left and the right.

[AndrewV69]

In other news:

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[Billie from Ockham]

My take is that evo psych will probably have its largest effects by continuing to push evolutionary biologists to think in terms of the behaviors that physical structures allow, instead of the structures, themselves. When the value of this approach truly soaks in to mainstream biologists, they might reach out to evo psych for more ideas. But until biologists do this, evo psych will continue to be mostly on its own, as it has a bit of a reputation (which is partly deserved) to overcome.

Put another way, my experience is that biologists really don't want to hear about evo psych these days, even when the ideas are expressed calmly and politely.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Haven't checked Jerry's in a few days. Every third post is on determinism now.

It was inevitable.

[Oglebart]

The Aussie killer has offered his 'condolences'

I thought the going rate was three goats and a chicken? Maybe no chicken given it was a woman.

Who knows any more? :think:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b0a8 ... e6d01c0163

The woman on the right looks like a condom.

That made me think of the naked gun scene!

https://heidicullinan.files.wordpress.c ... 8803-0.jpg

[Kirbmarc]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFCfsH7XgAEPW31.jpg:large

Yeah, who cares about science anyway, 'mright?