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Brive1987 wrote:These people are so fucking useless, that the upcoming end of their world was noted only as an unacceptable impost on their time and emotional energy.

No doubt they are cocooned in cotton wool waiting for woven vaginas to become the searing topic of the day.

At someone else's convention.


...... oh good. Look at what's on the telly:

[.img]http://i.imgur.com/uBjyuSZ.jpg[/img]

The SocJus movement is just a big waste of time and energy spent in outrage after outrage trivial bullshit like "sexist video games" or "bigotry in Hollywood movies" or "gendered toys" or trying to analyze any interaction between anyone according to Critical Theory.

Kirbmarc wrote:Meanwhile any worthwhile human rights cause is either poisoned by identity politics or ignored outright.

There are people who really care about human rights, but it's not the SocJus, they're more likely to be a motley crew of anti-identitarian leftists, libertarians, largely apolitical single-issue activists, and moderates.

The leftist intellectual elites in universities prefer discussing Star Wars or Doctor Who or LARPing as bolshevik street warriors.

Doctor Who: Invasion of the Identarians

... Apparently it doesn’t matter if the show is any good – it’s great just being able to celebrate the casting of the new Doctor. You don’t actually have to watch. Paradoxically, the same media types making these grand claims are calling fans misogynistic for reacting negatively before watching Whittaker’s debut. Here’s another paradox: when a diverse sci-fi fantasy franchise succeeds (like Wonder Woman), it is held up as proof that the public is thirsting for more diverse output, but when a diverse franchise bombs (as the Ghostbusters reboot did), it is blamed on a bigoted nerd culture. Even when a production fails, the dogma of diversity wins. The quality of the material never comes into it.

The female Doctor isn’t a victory for women, but for the BBC. Through identity politics, and the media fuss it always generates, the BBC has created the illusion that Doctor Who is more popular and cutting edge than it is. ....

Really? wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:

jet_lagg wrote:If we're being pedantic then shouldn't it be pointed out that the TARDIS being a vagina means the doctor should be a dick, not a woman?

They should have cast Dickie Carrier as the Semen Doctor.

http://i.imgur.com/Rr9fPhe.jpg

Really? wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:

jet_lagg wrote:If we're being pedantic then shouldn't it be pointed out that the TARDIS being a vagina means the doctor should be a dick, not a woman?

They should have cast Dickie Carrier as the Semen Doctor.

http://i.imgur.com/Rr9fPhe.jpg

MarcusAu wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Anybody here read The Laundry novels by Charles Stross? The latest one is amazing!

The Delerium Brief.

I'm reading (almost) as I type this.

deLurch wrote:
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Dr. Who's "problem" still remains. It is primarily rooted in being a kids show and I am now an adult. So not really a problem. The show just isn't designed for me.

Lsuoma wrote: Have you read the bit about how acolytes get "Elevated" into the Inner Temple?

/shudder...

deLurch wrote: The shows haven't even been written yet. All of this as usual boils down the the writers & the director.

Dr. Who's "problem" still remains. It is primarily rooted in being a kids show and I am now an adult. So not really a problem. The show just isn't designed for me.

abear ahermit • 3 days ago
Well the "debate you at my dojo" and "controlled contact to his head" remarks did sound a little like toxic masculinity.
You sure you're not a dudebro?

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ahermit abear • 21 hours ago
I am not a stereotype. That was kind of the point...

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abear ahermit • 2 hours ago
Are you sure you aren't a stereotype? You sound like a cis white male that is prone to violence because of testosterone poisoning. You know the type.

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Only Some Stardust abear • 3 days ago
Is it really that toxic if it's punching a bigot in the face, though?

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abear Only Some Stardust • 2 hours ago
I don't know. Does it matter if it's a left wing or right wing bigot? A bigot of color, feminist bigot or cis white male MRA bigot? What if the bigot is a tough guy that goes to a dojo and retaliates with contact to your head?

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ahermit abear • an hour ago
I'm sorry snowflake, did my little joke frighten you? Must be hard going through life with no sense of humour...

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abear ahermit • a few seconds ago
You're just like the dudebros that threaten Anita Sarkeesian and then call her an easily frightened snowflake with no sense of humor. Which " I was only joking about beating you up" school of MRA s do you belong to?

jet_lagg wrote:

deLurch wrote: The shows haven't even been written yet. All of this as usual boils down the the writers & the director.

Dr. Who's "problem" still remains. It is primarily rooted in being a kids show and I am now an adult. So not really a problem. The show just isn't designed for me.

Apparently Whittaker is on record saying that actors have a "moral duty" to oppose the Tories. I expect Dr. Who fans have a lot of preachy bullshit to look forward to for the new season.

Lsuoma wrote:Anybody here read The Laundry novels by Charles Stross? The latest one is amazing!

jet_lagg wrote:Apparently Whittaker is on record saying that actors have a "moral duty" to oppose the Tories. I expect Dr. Who fans have a lot of preachy bullshit to look forward to for the new season.

Lsuoma wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Cnutella wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Anybody here read The Laundry novels by Charles Stross? The latest one is amazing!

The James bond theme one made me lose interest a bit - way too smugly meta for my taste. Charlie Stross is a smart guy (especially for an SJW) but he knows it and this tone of "look how clever I'm being" has a way of creeping in.

I loved the first book though. Is this a return to form?

free thoughtpolice wrote:Internet tough guy ahermit continues his excuses for making a violent threat of sorts against Peter Boghossian.

abear ahermit • 3 days ago
Well the "debate you at my dojo" and "controlled *SNIP*o you belong to?

Lsuoma wrote:BTW, did anyone notice the Islamic Suicide Dalek at the end?

Steersman wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:BTW, did anyone notice the Islamic Suicide Dalek at the end?

Speaking of ...

Looks like "The Singularity!!11!!" has been further delayed ...

free thoughtpolice wrote:CH20:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... qus_thread

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

free thoughtpolice wrote:CH20:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... qus_thread

I thought abear was the "I'll cut you" internet hardman? Roles seem reversed here, ahermit seems to be crazy and abear calling him on it. Am I confused (likely)?

Brive1987 wrote:Why the hell would anyone play with her?

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

Steersman wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:BTW, did anyone notice the Islamic Suicide Dalek at the end?

Speaking of ...

Looks like "The Singularity!!11!!" has been further delayed ...

ERV wrote:1-- Saw Roger Waters perform last night. Amazing. I cried through the whole damn thing. I cannot believe he's 73.

2-- Was awarded a grant today. Small, but its mine.

3-- Dr. Who has lived how many generations as a male, a regeneration appears female, so now everyone is calling him 'she'? Has anyone asked Dr. Who their preferred pronouns? Not joking, wtf? Seriously.

Sunder wrote:

Brive1987 wrote:Why the hell would anyone play with her?

While I've not played Overwatch, I'm fairly confident most multiplayer games these days have some form of matchmaking built in, so even the most misanthropic asocial friendless people can get on a team and play. And then complain that it's everyone else's fault their team lost.

free thoughtpolice wrote:

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

free thoughtpolice wrote:CH20:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... qus_thread

I thought abear was the "I'll cut you" internet hardman? Roles seem reversed here, ahermit seems to be crazy and abear calling him on it. Am I confused (likely)?

abear* was the victim of the I'll cut you with a broken bottle threat by a baboon called Tethys then got victim blamed and banned by PZ clone Christ Clarke from Pharyngula.
*aka free thoughtpolice

free thoughtpolice wrote:Internet tough guy ahermit continues his excuses for making a violent threat of sorts against Peter Boghossian.

abear ahermit • 3 days ago
Well the "debate you at my dojo" and "controlled contact to his head" remarks did sound a little like toxic masculinity.
You sure you're not a dudebro?

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ahermit abear • 21 hours ago
I am not a stereotype. That was kind of the point...

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abear ahermit • 2 hours ago
Are you sure you aren't a stereotype? You sound like a cis white male that is prone to violence because of testosterone poisoning. You know the type.

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Only Some Stardust abear • 3 days ago
Is it really that toxic if it's punching a bigot in the face, though?

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abear Only Some Stardust • 2 hours ago
I don't know. Does it matter if it's a left wing or right wing bigot? A bigot of color, feminist bigot or cis white male MRA bigot? What if the bigot is a tough guy that goes to a dojo and retaliates with contact to your head?

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ahermit abear • an hour ago
I'm sorry snowflake, did my little joke frighten you? Must be hard going through life with no sense of humour...

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abear ahermit • a few seconds ago
You're just like the dudebros that threaten Anita Sarkeesian and then call her an easily frightened snowflake with no sense of humor. Which " I was only joking about beating you up" school of MRA s do you belong to?

A May 2016 newsletter from the City of Minneapolis said he joined the force in 2015 and had only recently completed his field training. He was the first Somali-American officer at Minneapolis' 5th Precinct, the newsletter said.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

Blogger is a complete cunt -- an hyper-protective, belligerent father of a transboi railing against the world and society and the universe. Ex-minister too, so still fundie by nature.

Post is mostly 'shut up and listen, and don't forget to beg for your ally cookie', but this paragraph takes the cake:

If You Don’t Understand Science, Shut Up
Quoting the dictionary terms of gender, holding up an “elementary bio book”, or referring to Bio 101 to defend positions when challenged is a bad idea. It will not stand up in an argument with a PhD in gender studies and it is not adequate to dismiss cutting edge peer reviewed materials on the matter. If you do not understand the science of gender, do not posit yourself as an expert on the matter.

I dare you all to comment. He wrote about he dumped a girlfriend for wrongthink immediately following sex, so his ban-hammer must be terrible and swift.

Steersman wrote:Somewhat peripherally or as a preliminary, I wonder who it is that you’re alluding to with your “PhD in gender studies”.

But more generally, I also wonder what you have against “quoting the dictionary [or] holding up an elementary bio book” – you might note that defining terms is an essential starting point in most if not all sciences, at least any worthy of the name, and has a remarkably venerable provenance. For instance, you might note the history of it in the Wikipedia article, as well as this portion in particular:

Taxonomy (from Ancient Greek: τάξις taxis, "arrangement", and -νομία -nomia, "method"[1]) is the science of defining and naming groups of biological organisms on the basis of shared characteristics.

And relative to the definitions for sexes, “woman” in particular, you might note the following definitions from the Oxford English Dictionary:

woman: An adult human female.

Female: Of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

You really think that Bruce Jenner can or will ever “bear offspring or produce eggs”?

No doubt there are many other attributes that correlate to a greater or lesser extent with the primary ones of which type of gamete one can produce – i.e., sperm, ova, or none – and all of which, including one’s sex, might be subsumed under the term gender. But if there are as many genders as there are people then one might reasonably suggest the term “gender” is largely useless if not incoherent twaddle.

ERV wrote:1-- Saw Roger Waters perform last night. Amazing. I cried through the whole damn thing. I cannot believe he's 73.

2-- Was awarded a grant today. Small, but its mine.

3-- Dr. Who has lived how many generations as a male, a regeneration appears female, so now everyone is calling him 'she'? Has anyone asked Dr. Who their preferred pronouns? Not joking, wtf? Seriously.

Brive1987 wrote:Awkward.

PZ has let fly at the police over the killing of the Australian woman.

Turns out the officer was a brown Somali who proudly boasts the name Mohammed Noor.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/police-offi ... xd69m.html

A May 2016 newsletter from the City of Minneapolis said he joined the force in 2015 and had only recently completed his field training. He was the first Somali-American officer at Minneapolis' 5th Precinct, the newsletter said.

I saw a movie called "intersection" once. Didn't end well.

Don’t come to America
Honestly, if you’re thinking of moving here or even just vacationing here, don’t. You’ll get shot. By the police.
They’re out of control. They’re armored up, loaded with weapons, and poorly trained. 661 people have been murdered by the police this year, so far. It’s insane.

So, like, he just accidentally fired his gun across the car, past his partner, through the door, and into a woman in pajamas? He drew a weapon, but conveniently ‘forgot’ to turn on his camera?

Dauphni
17 July 2017 at 7:45 am
Let’s see if that murderous thug will actually get indicted this time, considering that the innocent victim isn’t black for once.

handsomemrtoad
17 July 2017 at 1:40 pm
OK, let’s have a little perspective. Is that all right? I’m a loyal PZ fan, and the number is distressing, but can we hit the “pause” button on the freaking-out for just a few seconds? Please? This is, after all, supposed to be a forum for scientifically-literate and numerate readers. Take a deep breath, loosen your sphincters (that’s a line from Predator 2 (1990)), and consider:
661 murders by cops on duty in 5.5 months is a lot, sure–if the trend stays level, it’ll be almost 1,500 by the end of the year, BUT, cops typically get called MORE THAN THIRTY MILLION times in USA per year. So if you call the cops, you face a risk of being killed by them of about one per twenty-thousand, zero point zero zero five percent (0.005%).
I don’t mean to minimize the problem, which is an appalling problem, BUT it does NOT justify advising people not to visit USA! AND, does NOT justify advising people to not call the cops if you need them!
Thank you for your indulgence. You may now resume freaking out.

handsomemrtoad
17 July 2017 at 1:47 pm
UPDATE:
Oops, I counted wrong: it’s 661 murders by on-duty cops in SIX point five months, not, as I said, five point five months. So if the trend stays level, it’ll be 1,126 by the end of the year, so your risk if you call the cops is only one per TWENTY-SIX THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED FORTY, which is zero point zero zero three seven five percent (0.00375%). Sorry for the error.

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Meyers is such a narrow-minded, US-centric little spitball, he makes me sick. Pronouncing on the world's problems like he has a fucking clue from his bunker in the frozen tundra of his Nice 'n' White little college.

https://preview.ibb.co/ctsjja/Screen_Sh ... _39_PM.png

The "roving gangs of lunatics" (ableist) and "conservative loons" (ditto) whom you are talking about as a threat to civilization exist only in the US, Meyers. You disgusting little turd.

Steersman wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

But, en passant or maybe of some interest, I tangled with "timberwraith" on one or more posts in M.A. Melby's blog, for instance, here.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Laci Green's role as the SJWs Emmanuel Goldstein solidifies:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/transparen ... cisgender/

But, en passant or maybe of some interest, I tangled with "timberwraith" on one or more posts in M.A. Melby's blog, for instance, here.

Oh and there's Foxglove, too. Who's every comment runs thus ...

ERV wrote:1-- Saw Roger Waters perform last night. Amazing. I cried through the whole damn thing. I cannot believe he's 73.

2-- Was awarded a grant today. Small, but its mine.

3-- Dr. Who has lived how many generations as a male, a regeneration appears female, so now everyone is calling him 'she'? Has anyone asked Dr. Who their preferred pronouns? Not joking, wtf? Seriously.

jet_lagg wrote:I didn't find it to be overly SJW-laden either. The race-swapped Flash because [blah blah blah, tired, stale white male characters], but other than that nothing stood out as obvious pandering. Also a 61% drop for the second week isn't a failure. Thor 2 dropped by nearly that much. Captain America 2 dropped 51%. Homecoming has grossed in two weeks double what Ghostbusters (a movie I do think was hurt by identity politics) did in its full lifetime. They're working on a sequel already no doubt.

Lsuoma wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Steersman wrote: Well, that didn't last long, not that I was really surprised:

http://i.imgur.com/ZLmGFqD.jpg

Tigzy wrote:And so it begins.

Rule #whatever: SJWs are never, ever satisfied.

free thoughtpolice wrote:Nathan Hevenstone, the pretend pirate that hates straight white cis men has a cringeworthy post about Dr. Who being a woman now.
http://archive.is/iVRm1

I’m cautiously ecstatic. I’m so happy that, finally, a woman is playing the Doctor. I’m hoping that this will be a stepping stone to a more diverse set of actors playing the Doctor in the future (could you imagine Laverne Cox as the Doctor? OMG!).

Lsuoma wrote:One of our cats diagnosed with lymphoma today. Fuck. That is all.

dogen wrote:But they already did the whole POC/goat fucker thing with Torchwood -- the lead lass was Welsh.