In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

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VickyCaramel wrote: I am sick of winter and Christmas songs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tml3SUvdhBw

I am off to get fat and drunk. Merry Xmas dickheads and remember not to drink and drive.
Not bad. She seems quite pleased with her front but you gotta wonder whats wrong with her ass that she takes such pains to keep it off camera.

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*what's* forgetting an apostrophe bothers me way more than it should.

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Here's wishing you all an indecently merry Christmas!

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TheMudbrooker wrote: *what's* forgetting an apostrophe bothers me way more than it should.
whys that?

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Money shot.


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Could be wrong, but I think she out pit-girls the official slyme pit-girl

https://media.giphy.com/media/12tcgp4SjlnBzW/giphy.gif

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Or maybe not.

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VickyCaramel wrote: Looked like Twitter has closed down Julian Assange.
This is allegedly what got him shitcanned. If these are real... whoa!

https://imgur.com/zLJthRY.jpg

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rayshul wrote: it is pretty freaky to see population replacement in a coutry and you see that in those school pictures. i grew up in the uk in the eighties and i was the only black kid in the nieghbourhood and one of two in my school.
Imagine how changed Britain would be if 10% of the population was Mormon. There would be TV programmes about how this could be stopped.

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Merry Christmas you glorious shitlords! :dance:

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Merry whatever everyone!

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Merry whatever everyone!
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Merry whatever everyone!
And a great whataboutery!!!

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Snopes says, sorry, those are fakes

https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton- ... ds-leaked/

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Wow, I just double quoted the guy I was quoting. Is that a Pit first?
Maybe the 1.5 liters of wine is making me see double.

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If you could transplant a vagina into futurama santa you would have a women. and the women you ripped the vagina out of to put into santa would not be a women. because steersbot logic 101.

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MacGruberKnows wrote: Could be wrong, but I think she out pit-girls the official slyme pit-girl

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Or maybe not.
I prefer donuts to sports to be honest.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:47 am
Well I'm off home...where the phone company (or some other dark force beyond my ken) have chosen to cut of the 'net for Xmas.

Cheers to the lot of you - things would not be the same without you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ_NzBnl3k0

Here's to absent friends (including Sented Nectar if she decides to pop in)...I shall raise a class of Pimms & Lemonade or perhaps a bottle of Rekorderlig Strwberry-Lime Cider and be thinking of you...
Merry Christmas! I hope everyone at the Pit is well and enjoying Christmas. The weather here in Toronto is being very politically incorrect - it's a white Christmas this morning. :D

I hope your internet comes back and you can enjoy some online Christmas stuff, but if not, I hope you're curled up by a fireplace with drink in hand and having a good one anyways.

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MacGruberKnows wrote:
If you could transplant a vagina into futurama santa you would have a women. and the women you ripped the vagina out of to put into santa would not be a women. because steersbot logic 101.
40 year old black man receives white penis transplant:

http://www.africanews.com/2017/05/23/wo ... h-africa//

When asked to comment on the procedure, the patient said he expected a little more from it. :rimshot:

And with that, I bid you all a Merry Christmas.

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hope you all had lovely Christmases. Nice the Australian weather chilled out a bit here! l have made my first Christmas dinner so feeling quite Smug . Merry Charismas and a happy boxing day to you all .

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Scented Nectar wrote: Merry Christmas! I hope everyone at the Pit is well and enjoying Christmas. The weather here in Toronto is being very politically incorrect - it's a white Christmas this morning. :D

I hope your internet comes back and you can enjoy some online Christmas stuff, but if not, I hope you're curled up by a fireplace with drink in hand and having a good one anyways.
Sighting, Scented Nectar, wait out!

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Merry Newtonmas pytters!

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Just back from a family day. I ate too much lamb and potatoes. I am satiated.

Merry Christmas pitters!

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Shem the Penman, an insufferable Regressive Leftist cunt, now has its own Patheos blog. Referring to an exchange on another Patheos blog with another commenter (but no ID or links), goes off on how scientism is real and is bad, and how there are indeed 'other ways of knowing.'

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/driventoab ... e-science/
The whole "scientism" thing is a pile of crap. The post-modernist, religious, and the new age types want to discredit science because they hold beliefs that don't stand up to rigorous inspection standards such as those used by science. Shem the Penisman is resorting to unsophisticated sophistry, fudging on the meanings of words, and a certain amount of goal post shifting there.
His contention is that scientism is the idea that science is the only way of getting knowledge.
I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. For instance, pretty much everyone has a way of knowing that they need to take a shit, is there anyone that they think they need to apply the scientific method?
Shem thinks that specific SocJus claims which are proven false never matter, what matters is the "criticism of power dynamics" and if you refute specific claims you're not sophisticated enough to get what feminism is all about :ugeek:

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VickyCaramel wrote: Looked like Twitter has closed down Julian Assange.
Remember in the olden days when Assange was a hero to a large section of the left... Lol!

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Meeeeeerrrrrrrrrrry Christmas and Festivus, Pitcunts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBJRSMP8Uw

PS, PZ Myers. If u r reading this. Go and fuck yourself hard with a reindeer's antler.

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Speaking of PZ and other types of a similar character - the FT has provided, and the 2017 Cunties are now...open (if that is the appropriate term)

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=535

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And to all...whether you are here or not...please join in the tradition and don't bother listening to the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBRP-o6Q85s

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote: Looked like Twitter has closed down Julian Assange.
Remember in the olden days when Assange was a hero to a large section of the left... Lol!
Assange was celebrated as a hero by the far left, while George W. Bush was called Hitler. Now Bush is celebrated and Assange is called a fascist. I don't think either is as bad as they're vilified, but not as good as they're glorified.

At least Assange didn't start a disastrous war that resulted into thousands of lives lost and didn't accomplish anything but to make the Middle East even MORE unstable. I find the new appreciation for Bush a symptom of the shallowness of certain parts of the US left, especially the cultural/Hollywood leftist elites.

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Random thought: Certain segments of the left, especially the regressive left, love anti-American sentiments and those who espouse them, but they also happen to live in America and support American politicians, so they're kind of half-hearted about it. Someone like Assange who lives elsewhere and dislikes the entire American political establishment sounds like a kindred spirit at first until they realize he's not just playing around as they are.

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Bhurzum wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:13 am
Scented Nectar wrote: Merry Christmas! I hope everyone at the Pit is well and enjoying Christmas. The weather here in Toronto is being very politically incorrect - it's a white Christmas this morning. :D

I hope your internet comes back and you can enjoy some online Christmas stuff, but if not, I hope you're curled up by a fireplace with drink in hand and having a good one anyways.
Sighting, Scented Nectar, wait out!

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I think it means there's 6 more weeks until spring since I saw my shadow outside this morning. Oh wait, nope, I came out to say Merry Christmas! And to do it in the most politically incorrect way I can think of - with a Christmas punk song video appropriating lots of accents and with some nazi pictures on the album cover thrown in to trigger the left (even though the nazis were actually a form of communism and I loooove arguing that one with both nazis and ordinary leftists, lol)...

The Yobs (aka The Boys) "We Wish You A Merry Christmas"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK-PiHv1TRE

Hey, any of you Pitters on Gab yet (that I don't know about already)? It's where all the news and action are these days. Not sure if posts can be embedded here the way tweets can, though. Come follow me, fellow Pitters. Switch over your remaining twitteriness to gabbiness. https://gab.ai/ScentedNectar

Hey, I notice there's an off topic tag now? More rules over here about what you can or can't post? Not sure if I'm breaking some now or not. Oh well, I'll take a chance. :D

Here's some pics I made in Blender 3d with the Gab logo and the taboo saying of Merry Christmas:

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They've got particle animation which would show the steam rising and the snow flitting around and falling IF I had ever rendered more than just these stills. Meant to, but didn't get around to it. Maybe next year. :)

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It looks like Julian Assange has been stuck in the Ecuadorian embassy because he stuck his dick in crazy.

From the Daily Mail:
His point of contact was a female party official, whom we shall refer to as Sarah (her identity must be ­protected because of the ongoing legal proceedings).

An attractive blonde, Sarah was already a well-known ‘radical feminist’. In her 30s, she had travelled the world following various fashionable causes.

While a research assistant at a local university she had not only been the protegee of a militant feminist ­academic, but held the post of ‘campus sexual equity officer’. Fighting male discrimination in all forms, including sexual harassment, was her forte.
How must Sarah have felt to ­discover that the man she’d taken to her bed three days before had already taken up with another woman? ­Furious? Jealous? Out for revenge? Perhaps she merely felt aggrieved for a fellow woman in distress.
The two women then instructed Claes Borgstrom, a so-called ‘gender lawyer’ who is a leading supporter of a campaign to extend the legal ­definition of rape to help bring more rapists to justice.
Earlier this year, Sarah is reported to have posted a telling entry on her website, which she has since removed. But a copy has been retrieved and widely circulated on the internet.

Entitled ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge’, it explains how women can use courts to get their own back on unfaithful lovers.

Step 7 says: ‘Go to it and keep your goal in sight. Make sure your victim suffers just as you did.’ (The highlighting of text is Sarah’s own.)
The whole story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -hunt.html

If only Assange were muslim, he'd be free and clear, and his accusers would be racists.

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Sunder wrote: Random thought: Certain segments of the left, especially the regressive left, love anti-American sentiments and those who espouse them, but they also happen to live in America and support American politicians, so they're kind of half-hearted about it. Someone like Assange who lives elsewhere and dislikes the entire American political establishment sounds like a kindred spirit at first until they realize he's not just playing around as they are.
Actually this is part of the shallowness I was alluding to. I happen to dislike the foreign policy actions of the entire American political establishment, although not as much as the Regressive Left pretends to, and the game of first shouting "Hitler!" at any US politician who screws up, then to shout "Hitler!" again at any critic of the US which doesn't play around the Regressive rules is getting annoying.

I don't think Trump or Bush or Obama were even remotely close to Hitler, or even to Putin or Assad for that matter, in terms of violation of civil rights/crimes, especially not when it comes to US citizens in the US, so the Regressives who think that they live in a fascist state because a moron tweets stupid stuff think that I'm an Evil Shitlord. However I DO think that the US are acting like an empire (just like Russia or China), not like the "leaders of the free world" (there is no such thing), and that they often happen to support complete authoritarian cunts for their geopolitical/economic/lobby purposes, so many Americans who seriously think that their nation is "special" and the "keeper of the international order" think that I'm a Regressive.

Far too many Americans seem to either love the US with an unthinking patriotism or hate it in a chidish and irrational way. Nuance is a rare thing I guess.

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I guess I should have bought mandarin oranges when I saw them, which is a while back. None at the supermarket I went to yesterday doing my last minute shopping. Apparently there is a shortage of them this year. Anyone else have problems getting them?

Oh, the problems of the first world.

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Here's a fun Christmas present.

Sargon goes through the list of SJW rapists, creepers, paedos, etc. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjojBUsTzG0

PS - He forgot about PZ Myers.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Sunder wrote: Random thought: Certain segments of the left, especially the regressive left, love anti-American sentiments and those who espouse them, but they also happen to live in America and support American politicians, so they're kind of half-hearted about it. Someone like Assange who lives elsewhere and dislikes the entire American political establishment sounds like a kindred spirit at first until they realize he's not just playing around as they are.
Actually this is part of the shallowness I was alluding to. I happen to dislike the foreign policy actions of the entire American political establishment, although not as much as the Regressive Left pretends to, and the game of first shouting "Hitler!" at any US politician who screws up, then to shout "Hitler!" again at any critic of the US which doesn't play around the Regressive rules is getting annoying.

I don't think Trump or Bush or Obama were even remotely close to Hitler, or even to Putin or Assad for that matter, in terms of violation of civil rights/crimes, especially not when it comes to US citizens in the US, so the Regressives who think that they live in a fascist state because a moron tweets stupid stuff think that I'm an Evil Shitlord. However I DO think that the US are acting like an empire (just like Russia or China), not like the "leaders of the free world" (there is no such thing), and that they often happen to support complete authoritarian cunts for their geopolitical/economic/lobby purposes, so many Americans who seriously think that their nation is "special" and the "keeper of the international order" think that I'm a Regressive.

Far too many Americans seem to either love the US with an unthinking patriotism or hate it in a chidish and irrational way. Nuance is a rare thing I guess.
Not many people like to think the world is complicated. Some of the least clever people I know have the strongest opinions. These are the people I keep a long distance from. Most of the people I hang out with probably have 115+ IQs, but a bunch of my buddies have average smarts. Anyway.... the trick is to realize that things are kooky complicated. This is distressing to most people. Not me. I have been an engineer for decades and it is a very humbling occupation. Everyone should have the opportunity to design a pile of tests for a design, review the plan with a bunch of other smart people, and then have everything come out wrong. Wow. WTF. You start to realize that life is a bunch of assumptions that are only correct at a very high level. Dig down deep and you realize how stupid people really are.

Anyway.It is hard to expect people to be smarter than they are....haha.

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Kirbmarc wrote"
At least Assange didn't start a disastrous war that resulted into thousands of lives lost and didn't accomplish anything but to make the Middle East even MORE unstable. I find the new appreciation for Bush a symptom of the shallowness of certain parts of the US left, especially the cultural/Hollywood leftist elites.
If you give Assange at least partial credit for helping Trump get elected there is time yet for him helping start some sort of disaster.

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Happy Holidays, you bunch of cunts! :hankey:

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
PS - He forgot about PZ Myers.
There aren't many who haven't.

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It's not Friday.

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Happy Christmas on a Sybian my fellow Pitlers:

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Merry Xmas, you wonderful bunch of fuckers!

Just finished eating roast tip of sirloin for lunch. Tough as old boots, but I don't give a crap coz my yorkshire puds were to die for. Now relaxing with some marmite-baked cashews and a bottle of Oban Little Bay. Life is good!

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Kirbmarc wrote"
At least Assange didn't start a disastrous war that resulted into thousands of lives lost and didn't accomplish anything but to make the Middle East even MORE unstable. I find the new appreciation for Bush a symptom of the shallowness of certain parts of the US left, especially the cultural/Hollywood leftist elites.
If you give Assange at least partial credit for helping Trump get elected there is time yet for him helping start some sort of disaster.
I think that's giving Assange way too much credit.

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I think that's giving Assange way too much credit.
I think the Podesta emails must've taken some points for Hillary.

She did a terrible job as a candidate, getting her message out, going to the rustbelt, understanding her voters, being seen as human, but all of that was kept in the news and amplified to some extent with the Wikileaks emails.

So I think it is reasonable to say Assange worked to keep Hillary from being elected.

That said, it's still not been clear to me why so many Assange and Snowden enthusiasts on the left are now certain both are Russian operators. I haven't seen any evidence Assange is not printing documents he has, and I think the claim is reasonable that he hasn't printed any fakes, because no one has ever shown a fake.

I do have a lot of questions about how he and Wikileaks operate, but I don't understand most of the backtracking.

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jet_lagg wrote:
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jugheadnaut wrote:For Rey's abilities to not be nonsensical, she would have to be more than just a garden variety force sensitive. Yes, it's certainly possible within the lore for a powerful force user to be born to randos, and giving her force-aristocratic parentage wasn't the only solution. But it's narratively the cleanest. Let me put my screenwriter's cap on and give you an example:
What you're writing isn't bad, for a comic or a novel. If it was EU I'd probably enjoy it. As a capital E Episode entry it would make me roll my eyes and walk out of the theater though. Even doing a flashback feels antithetical to the tentpoles of the franchise. I don't think at this level the differences of opinion have much to do with theories about screenwriting but with almost philosophical differences between fans.
I put that little hypothetical together not to state how I think things could have gone (it was off the top of my head), but as an illustration on how the Rey problem could have been obviated with some better exposition. If TLJ had done something like what I wrote, which, as you suggest, could have been done through contemporaneous dialogue rather than flashback, few would have issues with Rey's powers, even though there still would have had consistency issues with what we've seen previously. Within the non-rigorous fantasy realm of Star Wars, it would have been enough. The 'solution' deployed in TLJ does nothing of the sort. Complaints about Rey's powers are still ubiquitous. I partially agree with you that on this particular issue, the debate is about visions of Star Wars. The more hard core fans are deeply into the world building aspect of Star Wars. They want internal consistency and predictability so they can have coherent evidence-based discussions on subjects like ranking who were the most powerful Jedi and Sith in history. The more casual fans are focused on the overarching story and the visuals and the battles and are willing to accept a huge amount of handwaving in the details.

But this also relates to philosophies of screenwriting, especially in the genre of sci-fi/fantasy, and this is truly where my criticism comes in. Writers who don't truly understand or respect it think it make things easier because it's a magic deux ex machina generator, where they can conjure in whatever is needed to advance the plot or dig themselves out of a hole. But this genre is really about world building. Setting up a complex, self-consistent yet fantastical world and being willing to stick to rules you've previously established is actually considerably more challenging than conventional genres. JJ Abrams proved long ago he belongs in the first group, and it appears Rian Johnson does, too. I'm confident in predicting the volume and views of nerdy Star Wars theory type videos on YouTube will collapse over the next couple of years. It's hard to predict what impact it would have since creators and viewers of these type of videos make up a trivial proportion of Star Wars moviegoers. But a distinct drop in enthusiasm for both the Han Solo movie next year and the next sequel movie seems a likelihood. We'll see.

jugheadnaut wrote:And it does it not so much with a satirical interpretation of what the fan boys are saying, but with literal quotes, which require no further explanation because they're ludicrous on their face given how bad the movie is.
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Define "bad", dude. If personal opinion is all that matters then this is the best Star Wars movie since the originals, because I say so that's why.
In this context, I meant the Red Letter Media guys were assuming the viewers of the Nerd Crew video would consider it bad. The user comments on both this and the Half in the Bag video bear this out this assumption. I definitely don't want to be the kind of asshole that thinks their opinion of whether a movie is good or bad is a positive claim that can be conclusively proven rather than something that is essentially subjective.

Box office is, of course, not a proper metric of quality, but the daily revenue on TLJ now seems to have settled at 50% of TFA domestically and is already about $170 million behind, although the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day returns aren't directly comparable. TLJ won't be saved by global ticket sales, which are actually a lower proportion of total box office than TFA. It seems destined to come in about $600 million domestically and $1.4-1.5 billion globally. Not disastrous, but very likely well under Disney's expectations. Disney is probably fretting now about their multi-billion dollar franchise. If the troubled Han Solo movie winds up being a flop, which I wouldn't predict but is certainly a possibility, the long-term viability of the franchise hinges on the 2019 sequel. Scary for them, because one of the myriad issues with TLJ is that it left nothing tangible to look forward to, and the core fanbase is now unprecedentedly unenthusiastic when they aren't openly hostile.

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That said, it's still not been clear to me why so many Assange and Snowden enthusiasts on the left are now certain both are Russian operators.
There is a quite a bit of evidence that Assange has at least been used as a cut out by Putin and that even if indirectly he got the DNC emails from Putin. Assange also has apparently received payment from RT and had a number of appearances on it. He also was behind Snowden heading to Russia with a ton of sensitive secrets.
Assange obviously has sensitive info from the Snowden material as well as other sources but you never hear a peep of criticism about Putin and Russia. How can anyone doubt that he isn't selectively suppress dirty stuff about Russia.
The evidence has been mounting steadily and a lot of Assange's old fans have been distancing themselves from him because of that. Not all of his old lefty friends want to credit a tool of Putin, especially as it appears as he was out to get Clinton.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/1417 ... ussia-ties

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HOW? ... :o

https://i.imgur.com/c4ZUcBf.png

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nours.html

You can add him to my cunt list if he ain't already on it.

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What the fuck has Nick Clegg done to warrant a knighthood? Other than being not quite as bad as Corbyn or May. Lol.

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So I remember first learning about Russia Today, and I thought, who the hell would appear on Russia Today?

But then it seemed, EVERYONE appeared on Russia Today, capitalists, socialists, libertarians, including Larry King, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, Jesse Ventura, Adam Kokesh, so I don't understand the claim that Assange being paid by Russia Today is a huge mark against him.

(see also https://www.rt.com/news/407347-rt-guests-list-ngo/)

For that matter, and I appreciate your providing a link and absolutely apologize for my being lazy cunt and not exploring it deep enough to make a Notes and String Big Board diagram, but I put vox.com slightly above infowars and prison planet. And given that I think Paul Watson and even Alex Jones have a sense of humor and a sense of self-awareness vox lacks that might explain some of their idiot pranks, hell maybe I put vox below them.

I'll note the vox link from Zach Beauchamp links to another Zach Beauchamp vox link from August 2016 that relies on the Crowdstrike analysis:

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/27/12271042/ ... -explained

But then there's these things, and I genuinely don't know where the matter stands

https://www.voanews.com/a/cyber-firm-re ... 81411.html
The original CrowdStrike report, dated Dec. 22, 2016, was revised and reposted on March 23, 2017. (Courtesy of CrowdStrike)

WASHINGTON —
U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank.

In December, CrowdStrike said it found evidence that Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app, contributing to heavy losses of howitzers in Ukraine's war with pro-Russian separatists.

VOA reported Tuesday that the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), which publishes an annual reference estimating the strength of world armed forces, disavowed the CrowdStrike report and said it had never been contacted by the company.

Ukraine's Ministry of Defense also has stated that the combat losses and hacking never happened.

Some see overblown allegations

CrowdStrike was first to link hacks of Democratic Party computers to Russian actors last year, but some cybersecurity experts have questioned its evidence. The company has come under fire from some Republicans who say charges of Kremlin meddling in the election are overblown.
And here: https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/
A New Report Raises Big Questions About Last Year’s DNC Hack
Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all, but a leak—an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system.
By Patrick LawrenceTwitter

AUGUST 9, 2017
And note: The Nation later added some big caveats to the above piece, but didn't retract it, and they did add this:
The most recent VIPS memo, released on July 24, whatever its technical merits, contributes to a much-needed critical discussion. Despite all the media coverage taking the veracity of the ICA assessment for granted, even now we have only the uncorroborated assertion of intelligence officials to go on. Indeed, this was noticed by The New York Times’s Scott Shane, who wrote the day the report appeared: “What is missing from the public report is…hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack…. Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’
That was as of August. Now, I have no idea who hacked the DNC, but I still am not aware of any real evidence it was the Russians, and I still see no real evidence that the Russians are controlling Wikileaks, or even that Wikileaks has Russian documents they are not publishing.

It is very clear that Assange hates Hillary Clinton.

More on Vox and Zach Beauchamp:

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... e-strawman
Whenever Vox wants to defend free trade like an evangelist defends some dude walking on water, it gets Zack Beauchamp to write about it. There was of course the ridiculous fear-mongering about Bernie Sanders column he wrote a month ago, claiming Sanders’ ideas were basically declaring war on the global poor. A couple of weeks ago, Beauchamp decided to interview Gordon Hanson, an economist who has been critical of the excesses of free trade. The interview is designed to reinforce Beauchamp’s point that unrestricted free trade is the greatest thing in human history and that everyone who opposes it is supportive of global poverty. Throughout it, Beauchamp moves on from Hanson’s uncomfortable points and toward the points he himself wants to make. The whole thing reads, and convincingly so to many no doubt, as a strong defense that the present system of free trade through unrestricted globalization is the key to ending global poverty.
http://lawyersgunsmon.wpengine.com/2015 ... -decade-is
http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... an-workers

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... orlds-poor

tl;dr there's no reason on earth to believe anything that comes out of vox. It's a propaganda mill.

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Guest said:
So I remember first learning about Russia Today, and I thought, who the hell would appear on Russia Today?
Presumably you are endorsing RT and Putin's murders of journalists and his domination of the press. If so you are an idiot.

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Guest said:
So I remember first learning about Russia Today, and I thought, who the hell would appear on Russia Today?
Presumably you are endorsing RT and Putin's murders of journalists and his domination of the press. If so you are an idiot.
Jesus, that was a completely stupid or dishonest misrepresentation of what I said. IE, you misquoted me, either because you are drunk, an idiot, or an asshole.

So let's go back:

I said:

> I remember first learning about Russia Today, and I thought, who the hell would appear on Russia Today?

Why? Because I endorse Putin and all that shit, or because I despise Putin and all that shit?

Occam much?

And then I wrote, and this is the part where you lied by omission:
But then it seemed, EVERYONE appeared on Russia Today, capitalists, socialists, libertarians, including Larry King, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, Jesse Ventura, Adam Kokesh, so I don't understand the claim that Assange being paid by Russia Today is a huge mark against him.

(see also https://www.rt.com/news/407347-rt-guests-list-ngo/)
If you have a problem with Putin appeasers, take it up with Larry King, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, Jesse Ventura, and Adam Kokesh and all the other guests on Russia Today.

My only point being that no one has stated why Assange's relationship with RT is any different than Kings, or Hartmann's or anyone elses. They just ad hom him, "he associates with RT".

So fuck off with your claim I must be endorsing Putin, until you can explain how RT's association with Assange is different from RT's association with Larry King.

If what I wrote that you left out of the quote was unclear to you, I give you permission to move your lips.

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Guest, I don't think you understand; state-run media is biased. Thankfully, the mainstream US media maintains a scrupulous distance from the people they cover.

The mainstream US news media work very hard to report what is happening without an agenda. Some people want to tell you an apple is a banana. But it's not. It's an apple.

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Really? wrote: Guest, I don't think you understand; state-run media is biased. Thankfully, the mainstream US media maintains a scrupulous distance from the people they cover.

The mainstream US news media work very hard to report what is happening without an agenda. Some people want to tell you an apple is a banana. But it's not. It's an apple.
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So how about that female Doctor Who? First thing she does is - be a complete women driver and lose control of the Tardis and get herself kicked out into outer space. Can't wait until she has to park it.

Anyway, if she's good, she's good and the show will be good.

Has anyone ever been able to follow and make sense of any plot ever from a Dr. Who show? The looniness they pull out of their asses to drive the trainwreck plots forward makes it almost all gibberish, but it's campy good fun and usually worth a watch.

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She pressed one button, one button! and pretty much destroyed the TARDIS.

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So I was thinking Inhadnt checked in on PZ to see how he was dealing with Christmas. Here is a man who hasn’t found joy in a movie since 1968 (apart from a double viewing of Wonder Woman’s double Ds)l but surely a very secular Christmas would cause him to crack a smile?

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Hmm. Caine has cancer.


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Brive1987 wrote: Hmm. Caine has cancer.


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Wishing her the best of luck. Kind of alarming how just one localized commenter seems to notice, which confirms what I suspected. Not even pharyngulites read the comments anymore!!!

Stick a fork in it already, PZ. It's dead.

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