In 2017 Idiocracy is a Documentary

[Steersman]

BTW, when Steerbot says escort or callgirl he means his left hand.

LoL. I would have been quite a bit richer if that was the case - monetarily at least; would have been substantially poorer in many other ways.

[Steersman]

[.tweet]https://twitter.com/MohammedPaedo/statu ... 8742609920[/tweet]

*womens' dignity

Geez, Steers, as much of a stickler as you are for precision in language I would have expected you to pick up on that.

:naughty:

"Women's" is right:

http://www.crofsblogs.typepad.com/engli ... -mens.html

Learn something new, every day. :-)

[Kirbmarc]

I'd say the comment was ill-considered as well. That's a problem with trying to play diplomat and shitposter simultaneously.

Sargon wants to be the next Howard Stern. He's a shock jock with a political/social position, but he's still a shock jock. The "I wouldn't even rape you" stunt brought him fame.

I've explained the context at length in this post:

At 17: 31, Sargon reads a paragraph from Phillips's article when she complains that the real problem isn't the quality of the tweets she receives, but the quantity of it:

Jess Phillips wrote:

People talking about raping me isn't fun but has become somewhat par for the course. What is the real pain is the thousands of tweets or Facebook notifications that join in. I think my record is 700 people blocked in one night.

To which Sargon replies:

Sargon of Akkad wrote:

Well, I'll tell you what Jess, I think that's terrible. And I'll tell you what, I wouldn't even rape you, I wouldn't even rape you, believe me.

Sargon goes on to argue that Phillips' point, that she feels "silenced" by hostile tweets and Facebook notifications, and so she pauses every time before she posts anything on the Internet, doesn't mean that mean tweets is a violation of Phillips' freedom of speech and so censorship cannot be justified that way. He goes on later to explain that it was found out that 50% of misogynistic tweets come from women, so mean tweets were unlikely to be a male tactic to intimidate and silence women.

Sargon's tweet is obviously a trolling/provocation related to the point in question, whether online trolling justifies censorship efforts because it is "silencing" women. Many others joined in with "AntiRapeThreats".

Was the tweet a good idea? Well, it brought Sargon free publicity and popularity, so if that was his plan, it was a success. Sure as hell it wasn't an olive branch for a polite discussion. Then again the infamous "Piss Christ" or Myers' "Moo-ham-ed the pedophile cow-pig" also weren't exactly friendly or pulled any punches in trying to test the boundaries of free speech by deliberately triggering moral outrage in religious communities.

So I guess that your evaluation of the tweet depends on your position on the idea that "rape threats are a silencing tactic" and that "women are silenced" online in general. If you think that those ideas are reasonable, or at least that even if they're rhetorical exaggerations they deserve a reasonable discussion, then Sargon's tweet is unnecessary provocative and a major dick move. If you think that the rhetoric about "women being silenced" is only an excuse to promote censorship, you might be more inclined to see Sargon's tweet as an extreme form of provocation which might be necessary to attack moral outrage.

It's also possible to think that the idea of "reclaiming the Internet" is a dangerous slippery slope to censorship while thinking that Sargon has given the censors plenty of ammunition, of course.

[Steersman]

[.tweet]https://twitter.com/MohammedPaedo/statu ... 8742609920[/tweet]

*womens' dignity

Geez, Steers, as much of a stickler as you are for precision in language I would have expected you to pick up on that.

:naughty:

:-) Didn't really notice it, and Suet Cardigan's link plausibly argues "women's" is correct.

But my being a "stickler" for the definition of "woman" is largely because of the depredations of many in the transactivist movement. And which seems to be the cause of a not inconsiderable amount of grief for many kids and their parents - as my link to a recent Quillette article underlines. I'm not really out to discomfit the many women - even here - who seem to object to my drawing a line in the sand just for the hell of it; it's just that that seems the only rational way to disabuse the transactivists who are seriously muddying the waters with their postmodernist claptrap.

Don't entirely understand this whole issue of "identifying as X" - particularly when one clearly isn't an X - but it seems part and parcel of the problem of identity politics. Although, somewhat offhand, it seems somewhat related to an old Star Trek episode: "You are NOT of the body!" But understanding that as it plays out with transactivism may provide a handle on broader manifestations of that. Somewhat apropos of which, ran across an old article by Kenan Malik which kind of addresses the issue, but both his analysis and that of the article he responds to seems predicated on some fuzzy thinking, and very questionable premises.

[Guest_09522ed6]

[Bhurzum]

Holy fuck; any yank-pitters able to verify the accuracy of this?



(I'd google it but I'm too idle)

[Easy J]

Holy fuck; any yank-pitters able to verify the accuracy of this?



(I'd google it but I'm too idle)

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

[Shatterface]

Rotherham Councli have been nominated for an award for their exemplory Social Services.

[SM1957]

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

And Oswald Mosley was a member of the Labour Government before he left to form the British Union of Fascists.

Who would have thought there was a fascist connection to the Labour party?

[SM1957]

Rotherham Councli have been nominated for an award for their exemplory Social Services.

Do they have the equivalent of IgNobel awards for Social Services?

[shoutinghorse]

Rotherham Councli have been nominated for an award for their exemplory Social Services.

I can think of 1400 reasons why this is completely fucked up. Sadly it is also typical of the aresewipes who have infested near enough every aspect of public life in the UK.

:x

[SM1957]

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

A lot of black people left the South and its racism and moved to Chicago and Detroit.

They felt safer there.

[deLurch]

Have to say, my reaction wasn't all that different than Dave's, at the time. More puzzlement than rage, maybe. My major thought was, "WTF are they cheering about?" Presumably you got to talk to them about it...any idea?

Yup. I was surprised by the amount of reaction being positive and loudly cheering. It didn't take long to understand that 85%+ of that audience was pro-Sargon. (A friend of Thomases estimated 85-90% pro-Sargon). That means that much of the audience came there because Sargon was speaking, and being one of his more provocative statements likely already knew why he said that in the first place, the effect it had on British Media, know that he had been grilled on that statement and know that he had already addressed those complaints headfirst, and knew his counter arguments.

So the British MP was pushing for anti-bullying/harassment laws, which in theory are not bad. But many people fear such laws will be written poorly and be used to squelch speech others do not like that are not really bullying or harassment (I disagree with you).

One of the arguments for these laws the MP made, was that she was receiving threats of rape. While not completely unheard of when it comes to completely anonymous online trolls & psychopaths seeking to push buttons. I think many of us know that complaints of rape/death threats are sometimes made up or more likely exaggerated to illicit undue sympathy.

Now you can look over someone's twitter feed and not find any death or rape threats. But unless the individual publishes their death/rape threats you can never definitively prove if someone is making them up or exaggerating the nature of the bad things being said to them.

So Sargon baited a trap for her. He tweeted to her "I would not even rape you." Something that is specifically NOT a rape threat. And the MP bit on it. She complained about it and used it as proof of her getting rape threats. Thus providing Sargon, and people arguing on his side proof that she was conflating, albeit crass, mean or highly negative tweets as rape threats.

And it made the news in the UK. Many papers made sympathetic arguments for her position. I can't recall if any wrote stories going for Sargon's side. But when it comes to groups & movements as small as Sargon's, they dominate the comments, forums & social media outlets to argue their position. Plus, all of the media claiming he had made a rape threat, clearly showed something that was specifically NOT a rape threat, thus deflating all of their pearl clutching.

It is not an argument that works well on a emotional level. But it tends to work for those who are more analytical/rational. And that will tend to be Sargon's crowd.

So when Thomas read that tweet in an accusatory tone, and Sargon replied "Yup," of course they erupted in applause. Thomas had taken the bait too (in their minds). In their minds, it meant that Thomas was going to be making emotional arguments, while Sargon was going to stand his ground (and hopefully) make rational arguments. It was now a large expectation that Thomas had not done his homework and was just going off of what everyone else was complaining about. Sargon had already faced all of these arguments in the hot seat, head on. This debate had already played out. And Thomas thinking this was some sort of gotcha, meant he was completely fucking screwed. It was game fucking on, and the crowd roared with approval and applause.

(For my part, at that point in the debate I was still keeping my mouth firmly shut, not reacting, not applauding anything hoping to see how the results played out on stage and not wanting to affect either party's performance. But I did say to myself mentally, "holy fucking shit.") I knew which way this debate was going to go. And so did the rest of Sargon's crowd.

A few years back, Justin Griffith said it was wrong for Greg Laden to deliberately attempt to trigger his PTSD in the course of their heated conversations. I seem to recall that meme getting picked up here in the Pit, back in early 2013 or thereabouts. Assuming it really is unethical to try to give your interlocutor nasty, emotionally unsettling flashbacks (as I do) how is Carl any better than Greg on this point?

Sargon was not trying to trigger her PTSD. I was unaware that she had any past experience with rape, or sexual assault. Although it appears her claims of past sexual assault has been used and conflated with rape. Sargon's goal was to see if he could show that she was conflating tweets that were not rape threats, as being rape threats.

And I think he did that on a rational level. But on an emotional level, if you say the word rape, everyone just loses their minds. Think of the children.

[Ape+lust]

Holy fuck; any yank-pitters able to verify the accuracy of this?



(I'd google it but I'm too idle)

Heh. As Easy J said, this guy isn't revealing some kind of hidden history, the two parties have swapped places on a lot of issues. It used to be opposition to war came mostly from Republicans. Nowadays, neither party will muster much resistance to it. An early champion of progressivism was Republican Teddy Roosevelt, who even started a Progressive Party because he was unhappy with the Republican nominee.

One constant is that the Republicans have long been the party of moneyed interests. Democrats used to look after the working class, but unfortunately neither party is much interested anymore.

But, apart from neener-neenerism, this guy doesn't have much of a point. While he's gleeful Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he doesn't mention the aftermath. Republicans deliberately wooed disgruntled Dixiecrats with their so-called Southern Strategy, which jump-started their ascendence into the dominant national party. So yeah, the Democrats filibustered, but eventually the likes of Strom Thurmond wound up opposing civil rights legislation as Republicans. Same shitheads, different party.

[MarcusAu]

All of which is beside the point.

What matters is what Damion thinks of Sargon - and whether he has let Sargon know of his concerns.

[deLurch]

Hey folks, don't take my word on anything. See it for yourself now. The video is up (but mythcon is charging $3 to view it).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp2F9b-xze0

But for those who don't have the spoon's to pony up the cash, I did find this additional clip of the Sargon interview (inter-spaced with commentary).


And this guy has some bits of the conference inter-spaced with his own commentary. You will have to skip around in his video.

[d4m10n]

What matters is what Damion thinks of Sargon - and whether he has let Sargon know of his concerns.

I've enjoyed some of his videos, balked at others.

Don’t expect he’d much care, one way or another.

[deLurch]

I don't have much more time to chit-chat, but I want to throw this link in here now so that I don't forget. I don't think this has been discussed here before, but I found it rather interesting.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessind ... -movement/
From: November 10, 2016 by Neil Carter

Listening to him break down the function he serves in the secular community gave me far more questions than it did answers. What follows is a transcript of select portions of that conversation with Eliott, dated April 28 of this year:

I don’t think (and I blame myself for this) that I’ve clearly explained my role and what I do, not just for RFR but for the community in general. I’m a consultant, and I generally do sexual harassment consulting, and I do that for a variety of organizations and conventions within our community, and I do it all for free. If there’s ever a time when somebody wants to give me something for my time, I donate it back to the organization that gave it to me anonymously. I never make any money. I haven’t made any money when I’ve been doing this for RFR. I am not compensated. I do not get paid in any way, shape, or form. I do this completely for free.

And I do it like that for a real good reason. I’m autonomous in the ways that I act, so when I do an investigation (if I do a sexual harassment investigation), if I come to a conclusion, that’s the answer. I don’t have to… an org can’t say to me, they want to bury it or they want to do anything… that’s not the way it works. If I come up with an answer, that’s what we do. And we make that agreement going in with all the organizations. If I find other things or do other things, I wind up doing it the way I want to do, I investigate it the way I want to do, and that way I can live with myself. And so, the reason I want to say that is because, Neil, I don’t have any outside agenda.

I don’t have an outside motive in this. I certainly don’t have a financial one. I don’t make any money out of this, never have. In the past three and a half years, just so you’ll know (and I shared this at the Heads meeting), I’ve done 135 sexual harassment investigations in the community. I’ve interviewed over 400 people. Typically, and probably almost always nobody’s heard about any of them.

Wait a second, what? A hundred and thirty five sexual harassment investigations? In the secular movement alone? In the space of only three and a half years?

[AndrewV69]

But, apart from neener-neenerism, this guy doesn't have much of a point. While he's gleeful Democrats filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he doesn't mention the aftermath. Republicans deliberately wooed disgruntled Dixiecrats with their so-called Southern Strategy, which jump-started their ascendence into the dominant national party. So yeah, the Democrats filibustered, but eventually the likes of Strom Thurmond wound up opposing civil rights legislation as Republicans. Same shitheads, different party.

Strom Thurmond. That name rings a bell somehow. Something about a black daughter? Just a sec.

OK From the NY Times : Essie Mae Washington-Williams, Child of Famous but Secret Father, Dies at 87
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/02 ... -jumbo.jpg

What does Wikipedia say?

Six months after Thurmond died at the age of 100 in 2003, his mixed-race, then 78-year-old daughter Essie Mae Washington-Williams (1925–2013) revealed he was her father. Her mother Carrie Butler (1909–1948) had been 16 years old and working as his family's maid when Thurmond initiated a sexual relationship with her. He was 22. Butler died in 1948 when Washington-Williams would turn 23. Although Thurmond never publicly acknowledged Essie Mae Washington, he paid for her education at a historically black college and passed other money to her for some time. She said she kept silent out of respect for her father[9] and denied the two had agreed she would not reveal her connection to Thurmond.[10] His children by his marriage eventually acknowledged her.[9] Her name has since been added as one of his children to his memorial at the state capitol.

Politics vs Biology. Biology "wins" many/most/kinda/mayby every time people.

Whatever Man. Fuck. (Die Antwoord)

[Tigzy]

I'm not too familiar with these US congressional ad thingys. Are they generally as wank as this, or is Wu's example exceptionally dire?

[InfraRedBucket]

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

And Oswald Mosley was a member of the Labour Government before he left to form the British Union of Fascists.

Who would have thought there was a fascist connection to the Labour party?

A minister without portfolio (outside of the cabinet), and he was a Tory MP before that . A political cockoo in the nest before he made his own nest. Though the close connection between British Fascism and prominent members of the suffragette movement is often overlooked.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... women.html

[Really?]

Part and parcel again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g-reports/

[Ape+lust]

Sharing the good news...

https://imgur.com/6mf6CrK.png

I think I'll leave a window open, see who REEEEEEEs the loudest.

https://imgur.com/9A55IoB.jpg

[jet_lagg]

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

It's one of the more irritating gotchas. You are modern x. Historical x did y. Therefore you support y. That they're reaching back long past living memory and generational changes to make these associations doesn't give them any pause. I remember Theophontes tried the same shit on Michael Nugent years back. Nugent is a member of the Fine Gael party. The Fine Gael party had a short lived fascist branch the better part of a century ago (it's members, and anyone who was old enough to remember said members, all dead now). Therefore Nugent is a fascist.

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2014/12/01 ... able-theo/

[InfraRedBucket]

Part and parcel again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g-reports/

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I don't have much more time to chit-chat, but I want to throw this link in here now so that I don't forget. I don't think this has been discussed here before, but I found it rather interesting.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessind ... -movement/
From: November 10, 2016 by Neil Carter

Listening to him break down the function he serves in the secular community gave me far more questions than it did answers. What follows is a transcript of select portions of that conversation with Eliott, dated April 28 of this year:

I don’t think (and I blame myself for this) that I’ve clearly explained my role and what I do, not just for RFR but for the community in general. I’m a consultant, and I generally do sexual harassment consulting, and I do that for a variety of organizations and conventions within our community, and I do it all for free. If there’s ever a time when somebody wants to give me something for my time, I donate it back to the organization that gave it to me anonymously. I never make any money. I haven’t made any money when I’ve been doing this for RFR. I am not compensated. I do not get paid in any way, shape, or form. I do this completely for free.

And I do it like that for a real good reason. I’m autonomous in the ways that I act, so when I do an investigation (if I do a sexual harassment investigation), if I come to a conclusion, that’s the answer. I don’t have to… an org can’t say to me, they want to bury it or they want to do anything… that’s not the way it works. If I come up with an answer, that’s what we do. And we make that agreement going in with all the organizations. If I find other things or do other things, I wind up doing it the way I want to do, I investigate it the way I want to do, and that way I can live with myself. And so, the reason I want to say that is because, Neil, I don’t have any outside agenda.

I don’t have an outside motive in this. I certainly don’t have a financial one. I don’t make any money out of this, never have. In the past three and a half years, just so you’ll know (and I shared this at the Heads meeting), I’ve done 135 sexual harassment investigations in the community. I’ve interviewed over 400 people. Typically, and probably almost always nobody’s heard about any of them.

Wait a second, what? A hundred and thirty five sexual harassment investigations? In the secular movement alone? In the space of only three and a half years?

Neil Carter is YA ex-fundie twat who wants to shove SJW humanism down the throat of atheist activism. He's BFFs with Galen Broadass, which tells you what you need to know. Dumb shit can't even decide whether he's actually atheist or not. I wouldn't trust a goddamn thing he says.

[shoutinghorse]

Part and parcel again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10 ... g-reports/

Let's not jump to conclusions now, we all know this kind of thing is so hard to stop, cars have a mind of their own and often mount the pavement to chase after those pesky pedestrians right? .. You never watched the love bug?

And that picture is a clear case of racism. Three privileged white men pinning a black man to the floor for no reason at all apart from just happening to be behind the wheel of the troublesome car. (Allegedly) Honestly this makes me so angry.
You'll be telling me it was a religion of peace terror attack next. :roll:

[Really?]

You know, after every car attack, we send thoughts and prayers to the victims. Thoughts and prayers help no one. We need to DO SOMETHING. Not just talk about how sad we are for the victims. We need to understand the real underlying problem and take real steps to make a change.

I call on Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert and all the rest to DEMAND that the UK government pass legislation to mandate car control. There are clearly a lot of problems with the steering columns and gas pedals of vehicles as they pass through high traffic areas. The manufacturers of these parts must be held accountable.

[Suet Cardigan]

Rotherham Councli have been nominated for an award for their exemplory Social Services.

Unbelievable. It's comparable to Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

[feathers]

2) Local funding is much better than state or federal funding. Local funding provides more local control.... and the school is motivated to perform for its customers. This backs up my story about why Michigan schools have gotten worse. State funding is a less effective model than local funding.

How about a hybrid model? One problem I would see with strictly local funding is that some communities, for example larger cities which are already balancing on the edge of bankruptcy, will underspend on schools.

[feathers]

Triggering PTSD is really difficult. I usually have to trick someone's parents into revealing a childhood trauma or break into the subject's psychiatric records before I can do it effectively.

But that's all in a day's work for an agent of the OSS.

[Sunder]

I'm not too familiar with these US congressional ad thingys. Are they generally as wank as this, or is Wu's example exceptionally dire?

I gave up counting the number of idiots who don't seem to realize Wu hasn't even won a primary yet. And won't.

[BoxNDox]

Rotherham Councli have been nominated for an award for their exemplory Social Services.

Unbelievable. It's comparable to Henry Kissinger getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

Actually, it's far worse. The Nobel Peace prize is at least partly aspirational - it's sometimes given to someone doing great good or able to do great good as a form of encouragement. Whereas the Social Worker of the Year appears to be entirely a form of recognition for what's been done.

And don't forget that In Kissinger's case the prize was awarded because of his negotiation of a ceasefire in Vietnam. And when that ceasefire failed he tried (unsuccessfully) to return the award.

I somehow doubt the Rotherham Council will decline their award, the fact they don't deserve it notwithstanding.

[Sunder]

Heh. As Easy J said, this guy isn't revealing some kind of hidden history, the two parties have swapped places on a lot of issues. It used to be opposition to war came mostly from Republicans. Nowadays, neither party will muster much resistance to it. An early champion of progressivism was Republican Teddy Roosevelt, who even started a Progressive Party because he was unhappy with the Republican nominee.

This reminds me of SJWs bitching that an institution, at some point way back in its history, did something bad, so now every person associated with that institution today is on the hook and must never stop apologizing. I guess conservatives think IOWWDI. Then again religious conservatism is the birthplace of "original sin" so I'm not fucking surprised. Dumbass regressive shits just adopted it.

[shoutinghorse]

Here we go, told you. Phew! That's a relief. .. The Met Police 'islamphobia swat team' will be steadfastly monitoring the twittersphere over the next few days to help ease any public concerns.

[free thoughtpolice]

If true, the driver in the London incident was laughing.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/10/07/ca ... don-museum

[Really?]

If true, the driver in the London incident was laughing.
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/10/07/ca ... don-museum

I'm sure the authorities will continue to let the public know the complete truth about this incident...

[InfraRedBucket]

Rather an unfortunate phrase given the apparent ethnicity of the driver in question.

#blackdrivesmatter


(even speculation he is a Uber cab....)

[free thoughtpolice]

PZ has another man hating article out:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -scumbags/
It's True What You Suspected, All Men Are Secret Scumbags
It turns out that some of the secret scumbags are guilty because they promote hatred toward identifiable groups.
Oh PZ, you are such a self aware beacon of righteousness, completely different than the hatemongers that would replace "men" with muslims or blacks or trannies or fat lesbians or jooz or...

[CommanderTuvok]

PZ has another man hating article out:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -scumbags/
It's True What You Suspected, All Men Are Secret Scumbags
It turns out that some of the secret scumbags are guilty because they promote hatred toward identifiable groups.
Oh PZ, you are such a self aware beacon of righteousness, completely different than the hatemongers that would replace "men" with muslims or blacks or trannies or fat lesbians or jooz or...

PZ Myers is an open scumbag. And much more, of course.

[Tigzy]

Curious. In a time where there exists a loud demand to topple statues of prominent racist folk, some prominent racist folk...end up on stamps.

I'm sure BLM et al will be on to this right away...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ne ... 04482.html

[shoutinghorse]

Elsewhere in London today approx 30 to 40k football fans (soccer to you colonials) from an organisation calling themselves the Football Lads Alliance (FLA) held a March and rally in the capital against terrorism and extremism.
Not that you would have known if you relied on the British TV news networks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyHRZx2H_9s

(can't embed)

[Kirbmarc]

Can confirm. Detrioit & Chicago are indeed shitholes.

And yes, the Democratic party was the party of slavery & the far right for much of it's history. I'm not sure why righties think this is a compelling bit of info, though. The parties' identities have drifted a lot since they were formed & have always had crooked, shitty politicians.

It's one of the more irritating gotchas. You are modern x. Historical x did y. Therefore you support y. That they're reaching back long past living memory and generational changes to make these associations doesn't give them any pause. I remember Theophontes tried the same shit on Michael Nugent years back. Nugent is a member of the Fine Gael party. The Fine Gael party had a short lived fascist branch the better part of a century ago (it's members, and anyone who was old enough to remember said members, all dead now). Therefore Nugent is a fascist.

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2014/12/01 ... able-theo/

Ah, yes, I remember that. Thephontes was also the one who tried to accuse Nugent of being sexist for having linked to the infamous Sealion online webcomic, because another issue of that comic contained the word "twat", even though the Sealion webcomic had been used by PZ Myers and other prominent SJWs like Anita Sarkeesian, and Nugent had only linked to it to comment on being called "Mick the Sea Lion" (so if Nugent was "sexist" so were Sarkeesian and Myers :lol: ). What a complete moron.

[Kirbmarc]

PZ has another man hating article out:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -scumbags/
It's True What You Suspected, All Men Are Secret Scumbags
It turns out that some of the secret scumbags are guilty because they promote hatred toward identifiable groups.
Oh PZ, you are such a self aware beacon of righteousness, completely different than the hatemongers that would replace "men" with muslims or blacks or trannies or fat lesbians or jooz or...

If all men are secret scumbags, is PZ Myers, who is a man, also a secret scumbag? :think:

[Ape+lust]

PZ has another man hating article out:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -scumbags/
It's True What You Suspected, All Men Are Secret Scumbags
It turns out that some of the secret scumbags are guilty because they promote hatred toward identifiable groups.
Oh PZ, you are such a self aware beacon of righteousness, completely different than the hatemongers that would replace "men" with muslims or blacks or trannies or fat lesbians or jooz or...

Apparently, Peez sees advantage to having only fucked one woman in his life and he's milking it for all it's worth. He's not a loser, he's one of the uncommonly gallant.

Still, being terrified of women as sexual creatures didn't prevent a rape charge from being flung his way. That's a stain on his character a scumbucket like me has never had to endure. So unfair! :lol:

Peez's virtue signalling is getting weirder and somewhat desperate and I think he'll soon start to embarrass other SJWs. He's like a dudebro who's sure the ticket to remaining cool is to mention "pussy" as often as possible.

Blog post archived --> http://archive.is/oH3jk

https://imgur.com/3ZcEi6p.jpg

[Kirbmarc]

Apparently, Peez sees advantage to having only fucked one woman in his life and he's milking it for all it's worth. He's not a loser, he's one of the uncommonly gallant.

Still, being terrified of women as sexual creatures didn't prevent a rape charge from being flung his way. That's a stain on his character a scumbucket like me has never had to endure. So unfair! :lol:

Peez's virtue signalling is getting weirder and somewhat desperate and I think he'll soon start to embarrass other SJWs. He's like a dudebro who's sure the ticket to remaining cool is to mention "pussy" as often as possible.

Blog post archived --> http://archive.is/oH3jk

https://imgur.com/3ZcEi6p.jpg

He looked terrible in the Youtube video he made. I'm seriously concerned about his health. Maybe he's really losing it.

[Ape+lust]

He looked terrible in the Youtube video he made. I'm seriously concerned about his health. Maybe he's really losing it.

I've wondered about that too. I'm sure he knows being perpetually pissed off is bad for a heart patient.

Even stranger, he's talked about his eventual death a few times, and he's actually very afraid of dying. There's no figuring him out.

[Sunder]

Not to sound too callous, but I'm not any more or less concerned about PZ's health than he is himself. Remember, this is a man who went veg because it's a matter of principle and meat is murd--ooh, is that barbecue?

[MarcusAu]

Here we go, told you. Phew! That's a relief. .. The Met Police 'islamphobia swat team' will be steadfastly monitoring the twittersphere over the next few days to help ease any public concerns.

At least it didn't happen in Cromwell Road - because then people might connect it to religion.

[Sunder]

Jerry bans a person for this comment on his follow-up post complaining about soda taxes:

Diet sodas are in fact suspected of contributing to the diabetes epidemic. The body releases a cascade of digestion and metabolism regulatory hormones well before a calorie reaches the intestine or liver. There is research being done on how the body metabolizes a calorie based on sweetness cues. Taste receptors are tightly intertwined with the metabolic fate of what you eat. I’ll grant this is not settled science and diet sodas should therefore be exempt from taxes.
What is not in dispute is the success of soda taxes in places where it has been implemented, such as Mexico and Denmark. The slippery slope argument is a dishonest one. Taxation can be and has been implemented narrowly and on a piecemeal basis on the most egregious empty-calorie drinks that contribute disproportionately to a health epidemic. This is further justified from the vantage of human evolutionary biology weighing in on the role of sweetness receptors; past the sugar in few lucky strikes on a honey bee hive that hunter-gatherers used to manage, modern day sugar would be better classified as a nutritionally worthless and addictive toxin.
If there is a group of people more repellent than Jesus freaks, it is Ayn Rand freaks, for they are as incapable of adjusting their world view in the face of compelling evidence. Indeed, upcoming John Bates or Nobel awards are highly unlikely to be for free market extremism, and more for behavioral economists in the mould of Thaler and Kahnemenn that define an ever shrinking Goldilocks zone bordered by oligopoly, herd behavior, irrationality, information asymmetries, lapses in long term planning and executive function and multitude of other general stupidities. I don’t lament my property tax or an alcohol tax (even though the amount I imbibe positively impacts longevity). I especially don’t lament a tax that does not even correct for what the Union of Concerned Scientists points out are ungodly government subsidies for crops that are worsening public health. And if you maintain you drink only the occasional soda, the soda tax as percentage of your annual total spending is negligible. On the other hand, slowing down of healthcare cost inflation would be most welcome. So whatcha bitchin’ about?

Admittedly a bit rude at the end and mistakenly implies Jerry's a Randroid, but holy shit is his skin getting thinner and thinner. One strike and you're out, regardless of how cogent the majority of your post was.

[Ape+lust]

Not to sound too callous, but I'm not any more or less concerned about PZ's health than he is himself. Remember, this is a man who went veg because it's a matter of principle and meat is murd--ooh, is that barbecue?

Oh boy, if that didn't make it clear the point of his "vegetarianism" was to accrue SJW cred... he could've quietly become a vegetarian and rode out his lapses without anyone knowing. He'd be virtuous and animals would have been spared, which are the reasons you quit meat. But no, he had to grandstand, so he looks like a doof because he's only human and not a steely-eyed justice warrior.

Worse, one of the delectables he couldn't resist was octopus :lol:

(And the jerk indirectly blamed his new in-laws for the carnage)

"Shall I fuck these critters or eat them? Decisions, decisions... Jeffrey Dahmer? What's he got to do with me?"

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Rather an unfortunate phrase given the apparent ethnicity of the driver in question.

#blackdrivesmatter


(even speculation he is a Uber cab....)

#SyncopeLivesMatter

[deLurch]

PZ has another man hating article out:
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula ... -scumbags/
It's True What You Suspected, All Men Are Secret Scumbags
It turns out that some of the secret scumbags are guilty because they promote hatred toward identifiable groups.
Oh PZ, you are such a self aware beacon of righteousness, completely different than the hatemongers that would replace "men" with muslims or blacks or trannies or fat lesbians or jooz or...

It might be fun to nail PZ to the wall with this and feed him to the wolves. But he has sunk into such a state of disparity. Few people know who he is any more, and those that do have been completely turned off by him on all sides. Any attention would be a positive for him.

[deLurch]

He looked terrible in the Youtube video he made. I'm seriously concerned about his health. Maybe he's really losing it.

I've wondered about that too. I'm sure he knows being perpetually pissed off is bad for a heart patient.
Even stranger, he's talked about his eventual death a few times, and he's actually very afraid of dying. There's no figuring him out.

Maybe he is afraid of going to hell. If he can muster it, in his final minutes, he will probably try and parade around in front of a church hoping to shank a few well meaning Christians on his way out the door.

[Shatterface]

Peezus has a new video up:

[Shatterface]

He looked terrible in the Youtube video he made. I'm seriously concerned about his health. Maybe he's really losing it.

I've wondered about that too. I'm sure he knows being perpetually pissed off is bad for a heart patient.

Even stranger, he's talked about his eventual death a few times, and he's actually very afraid of dying. There's no figuring him out.

Some people are afraid of dying without a priest to give absolution. Peezus is afraid of dying without a priest within stabbing distance.

[deLurch]

Neil Carter is YA ex-fundie twat who wants to shove SJW humanism down the throat of atheist activism. He's BFFs with Galen Broadass, which tells you what you need to know. Dumb shit can't even decide whether he's actually atheist or not. I wouldn't trust a goddamn thing he says.

I find the numbers not realistic. That would be an average of 38 investigations per year, and an average of 2.2 interviews per week, all for free. At a certain point a consultant needs to say, fuck this I need to get paid to put food on my table and a roof over my head. When am I going to work?

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Neil Carter is YA ex-fundie twat who wants to shove SJW humanism down the throat of atheist activism. He's BFFs with Galen Broadass, which tells you what you need to know. Dumb shit can't even decide whether he's actually atheist or not. I wouldn't trust a goddamn thing he says.

I find the numbers not realistic. That would be an average of 38 investigations per year, and an average of 2.2 interviews per week, all for free. At a certain point a consultant needs to say, fuck this I need to get paid to put food on my table and a roof over my head. When am I going to work?

OTOH, Sticky Dicky could rack up that many complaints at just one meet & greet.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

He looked terrible in the Youtube video he made. I'm seriously concerned about his health. Maybe he's really losing it.

I've wondered about that too. I'm sure he knows being perpetually pissed off is bad for a heart patient.

Even stranger, he's talked about his eventual death a few times, and he's actually very afraid of dying. There's no figuring him out.

Some people are afraid of dying without a priest to give absolution. Peezus is afraid of dying without a priest within stabbing distance.

IIRC, Peez, in his death bed fantasy, throttled The Last Priest with his bare hands. I'm sure he had a tight grip around something when he wrote that.

[BoxNDox]

Some people are afraid of dying without a priest to give absolution. Peezus is afraid of dying without a priest within stabbing distance.

IIRC, Peez, in his death bed fantasy, throttled The Last Priest with his bare hands. I'm sure he had a tight grip around something when he wrote that.

Diderot said it earlier and much better: "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."

Of course with PZ, it's all about him.