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Steersman wrote:

Billie from Ockham wrote:What the fuck does "Dissociation is a vague psychiatric symptom" actually mean? Is this a claim that the definition of the symptom is vague or is a claim that the symptom, itself, is some kind of vagueness?

Note to Steersman: the above were rhetorical. I don't care what the answer the first question might be and neither option in the second sentence is correct.

LoL. Given that Alexander claims to be "a psychiatrist practicing in the US Midwest" you might consider that he knows at least something whereof he speaks.

I would be difficult to express how little of a difference that makes.

Most illusions come down to this: the system that is trying to infer the most-likely distal (actual) stimulus from the proximal (sensory) stimulus is being "fooled," because one of the "tricks" that the system uses is causes it to make a false inference. The classic examples are Poggendorf and Mueller-Lyer, both of which are caused by the system assuming a 3-D distal stimulus and then using one of its "tricks" to calculate distance from viewer to object, but coming up with the wrong estimate (because anything other than "it's flat!" is incorrect). [If you're into details, the "tricks" being used by the system, which I ought to be calling "heuristics," are these: angles that are near 90* but aren't are parts of far-away objects when the angle is greater than 90* and are parts of near objects when the angle is less than 90*.]

Any pathology that produces an immunity (of sorts) to illusions is probably related to either damage to or non-use of the systems that use tricks to infer the information that is missing from the proximal (sensory) stimulus. That's fascinating to me.

But we need to make sure that we are talking about actual illusions and not bi-stable images (such as duck-rabbit, old/young woman, or, gasp, spinning dancer). The mechanisms underlying the latter phenomena have almost nothing to do with those that cause illusions.

Spent three minutes writing one of those rare serious posts ... won't spend fifteen seconds proof-reading.

What an asshole.

More post Vidcon drama. I don't know what the fuck it is about, but it is livestreaming now.
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Billie from Ockham wrote:

Steersman wrote: <snip>
LoL. Given that Alexander claims to be "a psychiatrist practicing in the US Midwest" you might consider that he knows at least something whereof he speaks.

I would be difficult to express how little of a difference that makes.

No need for you to be difficult, unless that's your thing ... But less than one Ningi, less than "fiddling small change"?

If whatever they are talking about occurred in California, then this could become interesting, because California is a two-party state (with regard to recording private conversations).

Steersman wrote:

Billie from Ockham wrote:I would be difficult to express how little of a difference that makes.

No need for you to be difficult, unless that's your thing ... But less than one Ningi, less than "fiddling small change"?

Choose one:

Reply #1: The reason that it would be difficult to express is because it's complicated. Knowing that the author is a 'tryst from the midwest makes it both more likely and less likely that have a fucking clue what "dissociation" means in a clinical context. I could walk you through the reasoning for both of the opposing effects, but doing so would be difficult and my spoons are in the dishwasher.

Reply #2: I hope that you're a Ningi, Steers, because only a Ningi can call another Ningi "Ningi."

Billie from Ockham wrote:

Steersman wrote:

Billie from Ockham wrote:I would be difficult to express how little of a difference that makes.

No need for you to be difficult, unless that's your thing ... But less than one Ningi, less than "fiddling small change"?

Choose one:

Reply #1: The reason that it would be difficult to express is because it's complicated. ....

LoL. You said, in what is presumably a typo, "I would be difficult ..." Which is why I said what I said.

Billie from Ockham wrote:Reply #2: I hope that you're a Ningi, Steers, because only a Ningi can call another Ningi "Ningi."

??? Maybe you're not a devoted fan of Douglas Adams? (the horror!)

Peter Ferguson is the most boring person on twitter. Even PZ Myers is more entertaining, if only because of his rants. Ferguson is just a tiresome bore, a holier-than-thou, pontificating twitter warrior.

deLurch wrote:More post Vidcon drama. I don't know what the fuck it is about, but it is livestreaming now.

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There's a summary of it here, courtesy Ian Miles Chong: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq0b3p?new_post=true

Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

Tigzy wrote:Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

Anybody know whether PZ Myers was in the Los Angeles area, recently?

:lol:

Tigzy wrote:

deLurch wrote:More post Vidcon drama. I don't know what the fuck it is about, but it is livestreaming now.
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There's a summary of it here, courtesy Ian Miles Chong: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq0b3p?new_post=true
Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

Yeah. The more I look at this situation, my presumption is that if she is a seriously awkward person with a bit of mental illness and is widely unknown, then it probably would be kinder to not play this drama out in public. Unless they think she is some kind of serious threat, I think it is best to let it drop. It isn't as if airing this will improve her condition.

Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?

The drama never stops.

Tigzy wrote:

deLurch wrote:More post Vidcon drama. I don't know what the fuck it is about, but it is livestreaming now.
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There's a summary of it here, courtesy Ian Miles Chong: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq0b3p?new_post=true
Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

If you want to see a scary psycho fixated on Blaire White:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/david-des ... ice.31609/

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?

The drama never stops.

Do male feminist allies like PZoom Myers pee sitting down?

free thoughtpolice wrote:

CommanderTuvok wrote:Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?

The drama never stops.

Do male feminist allies like PZoom Myers pee sitting down?

Sitzpinkel.

@Ape

Jebus! That's some serious 'lotion, skin' looking shit right there.

CommanderTuvok wrote:Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?
The drama never stops.

However I do have to admit she has this whole Saw motif thing going.

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Lsuoma wrote:

free thoughtpolice wrote:

CommanderTuvok wrote:Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?

The drama never stops.

Do male feminist allies like PZoom Myers pee sitting down?

Sitzpinkel.

Retromingent sitzpinkel.

And I thought yoi made up the word retromingent :lol:
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Ape+lust wrote:http://imgur.com/5VZLHP6.jpg

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Tigzy wrote:@Ape

Jebus! That's some serious 'lotion, skin' looking shit right there.

Yeah, 2 or 3 of those on a page will burn out a scroll wheel, fast :shock:

free thoughtpolice wrote:

CommanderTuvok wrote:Ah. So this creepy stalker is a woman?

The drama never stops.

Do male feminist allies like PZoom Myers pee sitting down?

Sitting, standing, running... it only takes gender-neutral facilities to pee like an ally.

http://imgur.com/YTXqcif.jpg

Billie from Ockham wrote:Spent three minutes writing one of those rare serious posts ... won't spend fifteen seconds proof-reading.

What an asshole.

Still was interesting and appreciated.

Ape+lust wrote:
Sitting, standing, running... it only takes gender-neutral facilities to pee like an ally.

http://imgur.com/YTXqcif.jpg

Oh fuck me, Ape, I can smell that! And I think the Morris Minor has been eating asparagus.

Billie from Ockham wrote:But we need to make sure that we are talking about actual illusions and not bi-stable images (such as duck-rabbit, old/young woman, or, gasp, spinning dancer). The mechanisms underlying the latter phenomena have almost nothing to do with those that cause illusions.

'Bi-stable images' is the term I was grasping for when I commented under the piece about the distinction between genuine illusions and 'merely ambiguous images' like the Necker cube. Your brain isn't really 'tricked' by an ambiguous image because there isn't a right or wrong answer.

(I'm logged into that site under a Wordpress account rather than as 'Shatterface').

Kirbmarc wrote:Peter Ferguson is the most boring person on twitter. Even PZ Myers is more entertaining, if only because of his rants. Ferguson is just a tiresome bore, a holier-than-thou, pontificating twitter warrior.

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Tigzy wrote:
Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

Well, doesn't tell us much. That could pretty well be any one of us.

d4m10n wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:Peter Ferguson is the most boring person on twitter. Even PZ Myers is more entertaining, if only because of his rants. Ferguson is just a tiresome bore, a holier-than-thou, pontificating twitter warrior.

And I always assumed the greys were the masters of the illuminati and they just let them keep some lizard people as their servants/sex toys.

You learn something everyday.

deLurch wrote:More post Vidcon drama. I don't know what the fuck it is about, but it is livestreaming now.

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This video is unavailable. WTF was it all about, Alfie?

d4m10n wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:Peter Ferguson is the most boring person on twitter. Even PZ Myers is more entertaining, if only because of his rants. Ferguson is just a tiresome bore, a holier-than-thou, pontificating twitter warrior.

Yawn. Even his jokes are boring.

Ape+lust wrote: http://imgur.com/QZ6gizv.jpg

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Fuck me Ape, It's too early here to go down another crazy troon rabbit hole.

I alluded to this in passing yesterday with regard to The Muskrat but I've spent the past day and a half bingeing on videos of Sovereign Citizen fruitloops unsuccessfully arguing with police and judges.

I think even moreso than watching SJW student protestors, the videos of these guys makes one really sympathize with The Man.

It sounds a bit like the Basil Fawlty school of hotel management.

ie everything would go much more smoothly if the guests didn't keep coming in and fucking things up.

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:This video is unavailable. WTF was it all about, Alfie?

It took a while to figure out.

Some major boundary crossing 'shitlord' fangirl mistook her enjoyment of minor eceleb videos as some sort of bond or friendship. Snuck up past security knocked on Blaire White's door during their party, gave them all gifts and then wouldn't leave easily, then got pissed off so she started to record their conversations outside their door.

Vernaculius needed a room & somehow ended up accepting an offer to crash in her hotel room. Ended up being recorded while he was sleeping on her gopro.

Grabbed the cellphone of one guy, and set his account to follower her on twitter.

Other instances of following & recording people without their knowledge. Hopped onto one guy's computer, found out where he was having a sensitive conversation with Francesca (MTV racist), and tried to join in the conversation. May have been recording that too.

I think her major boundary crossing behavior took them all off guard. They are not used to that kind of stuff in real life. Each one assuming someone else knew her.

deLurch wrote:

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:This video is unavailable. WTF was it all about, Alfie?

It took a while to figure out.

Some major boundary crossing 'shitlord' fangirl mistook her enjoyment of minor eceleb videos as some sort of bond or friendship. Snuck up past security knocked on Blaire White's door during their party, gave them all gifts and then wouldn't leave easily, then got pissed off so she started to record their conversations outside their door.

Vernaculius needed a room & somehow ended up accepting an offer to crash in her hotel room. Ended up being recorded while he was sleeping on her gopro.

Grabbed the cellphone of one guy, and set his account to follower her on twitter.

Other instances of following & recording people without their knowledge. Hopped onto one guy's computer, found out where he was having a sensitive conversation with Francesca (MTV racist), and tried to join in the conversation. May have been recording that too.

I think her major boundary crossing behavior took them all off guard. They are not used to that kind of stuff in real life. Each one assuming someone else knew her.

Some people don't really get that watching someone's videos, or interacting with them on social media, doesn't mean being their friends.

I guess when you go to cons you have to be prepared to deal with nutty people.

Sunder wrote:I alluded to this in passing yesterday with regard to The Muskrat but I've spent the past day and a half bingeing on videos of Sovereign Citizen fruitloops unsuccessfully arguing with police and judges.

I think even moreso than watching SJW student protestors, the videos of these guys makes one really sympathize with The Man.

The only area where I agree with them is the UK TV license - the BBC can shove it up their arse. Other than that, they're fucking mentalists who need a shower, a haircut and a striped onesie.

Exhibit A - I can blast down the motorway at speeds in excess of 100mph and you can't touch me because...I don't consent?

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I'd happily cheer for the cops if they pulled the wanker out of the car, cuffed him then proceeded to kick seven shades of shit out of him.

Kirbmarc wrote:Some people don't really get that watching someone's videos, or interacting with them on social media, doesn't mean being their friends.

Ah fuck it.

The very last part of the video actually made me laugh.

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Remember folks. Yes, she has some apparent issues. Leave her alone. Don't pick on her or go to her social media sources and laugh. If she is lucky, she will reflect on her boundary crossing activity and grow from it.

Barry Norman has died. I used to watch his show regularly back in the days I gave a shit what film critics thought. You know, back when they wanted to talk about how good or bad a film was, not whether it validated their ideology.

Bhurzum wrote:

Sunder wrote:I alluded to this in passing yesterday with regard to The Muskrat but I've spent the past day and a half bingeing on videos of Sovereign Citizen fruitloops unsuccessfully arguing with police and judges.

I think even moreso than watching SJW student protestors, the videos of these guys makes one really sympathize with The Man.

The only area where I agree with them is the UK TV license - the BBC can shove it up their arse. Other than that, they're fucking mentalists who need a shower, a haircut and a striped onesie.

Exhibit A - I can blast down the motorway at speeds in excess of 100mph and you can't touch me because...I don't consent?

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I'd happily cheer for the cops if they pulled the wanker out of the car, cuffed him then proceeded to kick seven shades of shit out of him.

I like the american ones where they just get fed up and smash the window to drag the gasbag pillocks out.

Bhurzum wrote:Exhibit A - I can blast down the motorway at speeds in excess of 100mph and you can't touch me because...I don't consent?

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I'd happily cheer for the cops if they pulled the wanker out of the car, cuffed him then proceeded to kick seven shades of shit out of him.

And what kind of gibberish is that in the description??

Unnamed bandidos 'in rerum natura' assert authoritative standing as British Military Personnel 'a voce', under exemption for nuncapative wills to those 'cestui qui vie', on 'average Joe psycho' public servants.
NUNCUPATIVE. — A Nuncupative Will is when a testator, without any writing, doth declare his Will before a sufficient number of witnesses (Swinburne, 24: 2 Bl. Com. 500: Wms. Exs. 108). Before the Statute of Frauds all kinds of Personalty might be bequeathed by a Nuncupative Will without restriction; but s. 19 of that Act (explained slightly by 4 Anne, c. 16, s. 14) imposed restrictions. Nuncupative Wills were abolished by Wills Act, 1837, except (as provided by s. 11) as regards a "Soldier, being in Actual Military Service, or any Mariner or Seaman, being at Sea." [Stroud's Judicial].

MacGruberKnows wrote:

Tigzy wrote:
Looks like Blaire, Shoe et al have caught the unwanted attention of a seriously creepy weirdo.

Well, doesn't tell us much. That could pretty well be any one of us.

Best. Post. Evah!

Kirbmarc wrote:Some people don't really get that watching someone's videos, or interacting with them on social media, doesn't mean being their friends.

Are you trying to tell us all something?

Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

From Seattle - context is important.

deLurch wrote:The very last part of the video actually made me laugh.

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Remember folks. Yes, she has some apparent issues. Leave her alone. Don't pick on her or go to her social media sources and laugh. If she is lucky, she will reflect on her boundary crossing activity and grow from it.

If you only listen, you'll swear that it's Mindy Kaling speaking ... one of the most annoying people in the world.

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

Do you have time to get a life insurance policy out on her?

Lsuoma wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

From Seattle - context is important.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40465871

Billie from Ockham wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:Some people don't really get that watching someone's videos, or interacting with them on social media, doesn't mean being their friends.

Are you trying to tell us all something?

:lol:

But seriously, I like this place and I like the people who post here (even Steersman, although "like" is a big word...I find him interesting). However I've only interacted with you online, so I hope you won't be sorry if I wouldn't call you "friends". "Friendly acquaintances" is enough, like "partners in bitching about the SocJus, politics, society, science, atheism, secularism, religion, and everything else".

I've also interacted with people like Thunderfoot, Cathy Young or Helen Pluckrose, which I like and respect, but again, I wouldn't even dream to "get personal" if I ever met them. I'd probably compliment them for their job, tell them to keep up the good work, and keep it short and to the point.

Internet isn't a place to make close friends. You can start to know someone on the internet, but until you've met them face to face you should be friendly but keep a certain amount of distance. This is also true for internet dating: it's fine for meeting new people and setting up face to face occasions to get to know each other better, but you shouldn't fall head over heels for someone you've never met in the flesh.

Far too many people can't keep their internet life separated from their real life, often because they have a lousy social life outside of the internet. That's unlikely to lead to good things.

Lsuoma wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

From Seattle - context is important.

This is a joke? As in...

"Adele is so fat my sister-in-law had to attend 2 shows to see all of her."

(Oops, nevermind. I just googled and saw the new reports)

InfraRedBucket wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

From Seattle - context is important.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40465871

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Ape+lust wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:

Lsuoma wrote:Ruh-roh! One of my sisters-in-law flew to London to see Adele tonight and tomorrow...

From Seattle - context is important.

This is a joke? As in...

"Adele is so fat my sister-in-law had to attend 2 shows to see all of her."

(Oops, nevermind. I just googled and saw the new reports)

What do you have against the old reports?

Kirbmarc wrote:But seriously, I like this place and I like the people who post here (even Steersman, although "like" is a big word...I find him interesting). However I've only interacted with you online, so I hope you won't be sorry if I wouldn't call you "friends". "Friendly acquaintances" is enough, like "partners in bitching about the SocJus, politics, society, science, atheism, secularism, religion, and everything else".

{snip}

My wife and daughter refer to you (all) as my "e-maginary friends."

Kirbmarc wrote:But seriously, I like this place and I like the people who post here (even Steersman, although "like" is a big word...I find him interesting).

Steersman is...

Good mornings, all you deepfreeze Americans, and congratulations!

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Kirbmarc wrote:

Billie from Ockham wrote:

Kirbmarc wrote:Some people don't really get that watching someone's videos, or interacting with them on social media, doesn't mean being their friends.

Are you trying to tell us all something?

:lol:

But seriously, I like this place and I like the people who post here (even Steersman, although "like" is a big word...I find him interesting). However I've only interacted with you online, so I hope you won't be sorry if I wouldn't call you "friends". "Friendly acquaintances" is enough, like "partners in bitching about the SocJus, politics, society, science, atheism, secularism, religion, and everything else".

I've also interacted with people like Thunderfoot, Cathy Young or Helen Pluckrose, which I like and respect, but again, I wouldn't even dream to "get personal" if I ever met them. I'd probably compliment them for their job, tell them to keep up the good work, and keep it short and to the point.

Internet isn't a place to make close friends. You can start to know someone on the internet, but until you've met them face to face you should be friendly but keep a certain amount of distance. This is also true for internet dating: it's fine for meeting new people and setting up face to face occasions to get to know each other better, but you shouldn't fall head over heels for someone you've never met in the flesh.

Far too many people can't keep their internet life separated from their real life, often because they have a lousy social life outside of the internet. That's unlikely to lead to good things.

On the other hand all it takes is 5 seconds interaction over the Internet to see that someone is a cunt.

Lsuoma wrote:What do you have against the old reports?

:lol:

I care enough to use only the freshest on the Pit.

Would you like some fresh wine? Made just yesterday, along with some exquisite runny Camembert.