Sunder wrote:And as has already been pointed out Trump's move brought him a fair amount of scorn from conservatives, and that's where he really runs the risk of screwing up. Liberals can howl at him all day but if he gives the Republicans public justification to oust him they can and will.
They can remove support from him, but oust him, no, not without cause.( high crimes/misdemeanors)
They went against him once already and were forced to come crawling back. I don't think they want to make that mistake again. The more savvy among them will see the opportunity to advance themselves above the old fuddy-duddys who got us in this mess to begin with.
Trump now has the worlds biggest bully pulpit on the planet. He can directly craft his narrative to the people without media help. If you notice he speaks simply and gets his point across quickly. A refreshing change for a public with a short attention span and weary of blow hards,who love the sound of their own voices( Hi Barry!) and never tire about of telling us how good they are.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:30 am
by Hunt
Spike13 wrote: A refreshing change for a public with a short attention span and weary of blow hards,who love the sound of their own voices( Hi Barry!) and never tire about of telling us how good they are.
Er, how is that not an exact description of Donald Trump?
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:33 am
by Aneris
Hunt wrote:I just had a recovered memory. There was actually a time in American when identifying a person's race was almost anathema. I recall once trying to get a description of a man from a white guy and almost having to force him to describe the man as a "black man". That's how dead identity politics was. Of course, I'm not trying to say that race conscientiousness was dead; far from it. But the ideal that race shouldn't matter was almost religion in America for decades.
It's one thing for PZ Myers to want identity politics and white people to recognize race (too) in order to check it. But it's a whole other matter how obvious he treats it, and shines some interesting light at his character. It's nothing new. Just another indicator that whatever idea he had 5 minutes ago, he treats it as eternal wisdom that must be obvious to everyone immediately. Those who don't accept his latest announcement without hesitation are of course vile, evil, racists, misogynists, idiots and the likes.
Originally, the US civil rights movement wanted to go beyond race (as you indicate) and imagined an approach that has more recently been denounced as "color-blindness" by SJWs. Remember "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character", that famous quotation of Martin Luther King, Junior? PZ Myers is such an imbecile that he isn't even aware that the newfound love for race, for white people, too, "to see race" and not be "color-blind" is a revisionist (!) approach based likely on Derrick Bell and the Critical Race Theory school that sprung from his ideas. I wrote about Critical Race Theory in some detail here (in three almost subsequent posts).
What's more, the whole "colorblind" criticism is pretty much a unique US thing, hardly known elsewhere and only spread five minutes ago. Elsewhere, racial subcultures don't exist or fade into ethnic subcultures, and in German "race" conceptions are completely unthinkable. It's straight hardcore Nazi talk. The word alone, "Rasse" is the same term also used for horses and dogs (i.e. "breeds"). I noted a long time ago how PZ Myers and his ilk declared "microagression" and such as if this was three-hundred-year old "knowledge" everyone must be intimiately familiar with, when at the time, even the article on the Wikipedia was barebones without any other language version. That's of course typical for SJWism, to find reason for outrage and callout to virally spread their ideology. Either, someone's views are being misconstrued to be outraged, or recent special interest ideas most people cannot possibly know about (and SJW themselves have learned five minutes ago) are taken as "common knowledge or you're a racist", with which the whole "educate yourself" response of them has co-evolved. That way, people have to immerse themselves into their festering ideological virus bath, with their immune system damaged from social pressure.
The galling thing is not just PZ Myers beliefs themselves. It's this attitude that his very american "left" views must be accepted as gospel by everyone. And that he is utmost convinced that whatever those beliefs are, they are correct, and of course left wing proper. He cannot even imagine that he might count as raging fascist based off some of his ideas, or that his US "left" ideas are perhaps even right of Angela Merkel (who is a Christian conservative in my frame of reference!). Being wrong about something is one thing, but the utter absence of any perspective, doubt, humanity, understanding is what is the most appalling of SJWs like him. They have the moral character of an concentration camp warden. Either, they go with the flock, blindly, with utmost conviction, or they are sadists who enjoy the power over others.
Other than that, I discussed the details of PZ Myers et alviews in context of Intersectionality and Critical Race Theory more specificly a few days ago at WEIT.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:34 am
by Easy J
Hunt wrote:I just had a recovered memory. There was actually a time in American when identifying a person's race was almost anathema. I recall once trying to get a description of a man from a white guy and almost having to force him to describe the man as a "black man". That's how dead identity politics was. Of course, I'm not trying to say that race conscientiousness was dead; far from it. But the ideal that race shouldn't matter was almost religion in America for decades.
That was the old fashioned liberal attitude I was raised with. The "colorblind" ideal. Content of character, not color of skin & all that. Just plain old naive common sense. Discussing it was uncomfortable & impolite.
Inferring from my own experience, I'm guessing that a lot of the pushback against SJ is out of a sense of betrayal over this from people that feel they've been misled about the left's agenda.
I was never politically engaged & didn't spend any time digging into the ideological nuts & bolts of it all. I just assumed I was a liberal because of my opinions on key issues. Pro-free speech, anti-censorship, anti-racist, anti-sexist, detested the religious right, ect. My opinions were described as liberal so I passively assumed the label.
Over the years I started to notice double standards inherent in identity politics, but they weren't so glaring & unapologetically thrust into your face with attempted justifications they are now. The ordinary person in the street doesn't do nuance but they have a strong emotional reaction to hypocrisy & double standards. It feels like betrayal. On an emotional level it feels like there's a "them" that said one thing back then & is now doing the opposite after I signed on.
As people age, they tend to become more conservative & I think the left's recent obsession with identity politics is accelerating this process with a lot of their natural constituency. They're violating that old agreement to treat folks as individuals & not judge by surface features. The mainstream right still displays that old discomfort in referring openly to race. The regressive left never shuts up about it & openly despises any white people not on board with them.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:35 am
by Sunder
Spike13 wrote:They went against him once already and were forced to come crawling back. I don't think they want to make that mistake again.
The primaries?
Had they not split their base so hard with multiple nominees, we might not even be having this conversation. Republicans are clearly enjoying the liberals losing their minds and don't mind playing ball with Trump, but when he starts endangering the interests of their big donors like the Kochs, he'll have the entire party in unison against him.
Again, the Republicans are the ones with the power in this relationship. Trump's an easy scapegoat if anything goes wrong because he's the outsider. If he gets on the bad side of Republican big money, the ones taking Trump's side against the "fuddy-duddys" are going to be campaigned out of existence.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:39 am
by shoutinghorse
Billie from Ockham wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:She mentioned the other day that 90% of her patreon money goes on rent for her new Bachelorette apartment and the rest goes on keeping Skepchick running. Whining that she's skint, that tends to happen when you take your wage earning boyfriend for granted and start shagging about.
Was that just a throw-away comment of did Watson really fuck someone other than Adam? That must have broken a certain biologist's heart.
Splits up with Adam in Nov. Immediately runs away to Colorado with Chris for a 'mini break' (sharing mini bar) uploads pics canoodling with Chris on social media, moves into new apartment on return.
You do the math.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:03 am
by MarcusAu
Welcome to the Blue shoutinghorse.
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Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:20 am
by Kirbmarc
Aneris wrote:It's one thing for PZ Myers to want identity politics and white people to recognize race (too) in order to check it. But it's a whole other matter how obvious he treats it, and shines some interesting light at his character. It's nothing new. Just another indicator that whatever idea he had 5 minutes ago, he treats it as eternal wisdom that must be obvious to everyone immediately. Those who don't accept his latest announcement without hesitation are of course vile, evil, racists, misogynists, idiots and the likes.
The funniest thing is that before the "privilege checking" paradigm became mainstream Myers wrote many things that would be judged bigoted today. He said that "islam is a weakling's religion". He said that since muslim creationists were writing emails to him his inbox was "infested by the stench of a thousand camel fleas". He promoted a song about "raping Kent Hovind for Jesus". And while he and his ilk want to force anyone they find bigoted to not only apologize but to do it in the most explicit and convincing way he's never apologized for any of his "sins". Not only are the ideas they have eternal wisdom, but they absolve them of all their past wrong-doing.
He's not the only one: Peter Coffin created a fake Japanese racist girlfriend but now he's a SJW icon on twitter, Sarah "Butts" Nyberg has "redeemed" from being an "edgelord", Shanley was a white supremacist, etc. etc. To say nothing of the all too many "male feminists" who ae later outed as harassers/creeps, from Tricky Dickie Carrier to Hugo Schwyzter. SJ, like many other cults, is infested with people who project their own flaws, real or perceived, onto others, and who are far more interested in acting like the morality police towards other than acknowledging that they've also engaged in the behaviors that they chastise.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:24 am
by Service Dog
Sunder wrote:
Service Dog wrote:I deduct troll points from Trump, for not scheduling a long private meeting with Sarah Palin today, while everyone was waiting for his SCOTUS pick to be announced. The hysteria would have been epic.
Why? When Dubya nominated a massively unqualified woman for the position, Reps and Dems alike in congress said "yeah, no."
Even Republicans would not confirm Sarah Palin for the SCOTUS. They want a strict constructionist, not an illiterate.
Naw... ya dont nominate her. You just hang-out with her all day & make heads explode. Then nominate Judge Grotius, like yesterday.
"Ladies & Gentlemen, my nominee is a strict constructionist. Tremendously strict. Very very. I know construction... I made money constructing resorts and towers. But this nominee knows constructionist, like Tiger Woods knows golf. From Scotland to Palm Beach, Los Angeles to Dubai, Trump Golf is home to some of the most iconic golf properties and courses in the world representing world-class luxury and excellence, only synonymous with the Trump brand. President Barack Obama taught constitutional law at an Ivy League level. He never had a son, to carry on the great name of 'Barack'. Maybe that's why he named his dog after himself. It's true. Google it. Or Bing-- same answer, I guatantee it. My own son, Donald, Jr., as I was saying... supreme court nominee... yes, Sarah-- please step up hers to the podium with me. And show the gold enevelope to The People. The people's envelope. Thank you. And here to read the name of my nominee... let's have a round of applause for Steve Harvey... did you bring your reading glasses, Steve? I don't want you blurting-out 'Sally Yates'. Betrayer. Bigtime, huge..."
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:34 am
by Service Dog
rayshul wrote:BAN FORESKINS
Perfectsplaining!
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:56 am
by Sunder
Service Dog wrote:Naw... ya dont nominate her. You just hang-out with her all day & make heads explode.
And I'm saying that most people wouldn't take that bait because she has a 0% chance of making it even if he really were to nominate her.
This also comes with the massive downside of hanging out with Sarah Palin all day. Not worth Trump or anyone else's time, even for a laugh.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:13 am
by NoGodsEver
The idea of Palin as a Supreme Court justice is no more ridiculous than the idea of Trump as president.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:35 am
by Tigzy
Notorious islamic-apologist-of-the-Walter-Mitty-type Mo Ansar's debut single:
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Astoundingly enough, he's pretty good.
I thought music was haram, though. :think: It does lend credence to my theory that Mo has never really been all that into islam, and simply uses it as a vehicle for his main interest: himself, and the self-promotion thereof. But if he's gonna do it via music, then good luck to him - at least with this, he has something solid to base it on.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:56 am
by Really?
Here is Trump's campaign manager/advisor doing standup and singing in the 1990s.
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Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:02 am
by Kirbmarc
Tigzy wrote:I thought music was haram, though. :think:
This is a point of contention between muslim scholars. There's nothing explicitly against music in the Qu'ran. There are a couple of verses about islam about Satan tempting men with "vices" and other verses about islam being against "vanities" and "idleness", which different schools of islam interpret in different ways. There are a couple of ahadit which can interpreted as being against music but that's neither here nor there.
Salafis, being utter cunts in general, usually see music as sinful, although even among them the question of whether music is prohibited or not isn't completely settled. In Sufism music is even used for religious purposes (this is one of the reasons why other muslims think that Sufis aren't muslim).
Anyway while being against music is usually a sign you're a conservative cunt being pro-music doesn't mean you're not a muslim supremacist. There muslim supremacists who enjoy playing instruments and singing. There are even some muslim supremacy rappers. Actually some pioneers of the gangsta-rapper genre were muslims affiliated to the Nation of Islam and they were also black separatists/supremacists.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:07 am
by MarcusAu
I wouldn't want to pull a 'No True Scotsman' - but is the Nation of Islam really islamic?
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:18 am
by Kirbmarc
MarcusAu wrote:I wouldn't want to pull a 'No True Scotsman' - but is the Nation of Islam really islamic?
I tend to recognize everyone who declares themselves to be a muslim to be a muslim. Islam is bollocks anyway, the more diluted and meaningless it becomes the better. The muslim supremacists love to declare other people "not real muslims" and use it as a justification to go after them.
Fuck that. They're all muslims, just different flavors of the same shit, the more there are the more likely are muslim supremacists to bicker with others and fail. And who knows, one day some people might actually redefine islam so that literalist is no longer needed and open the door to the liberalization of muslim culture.
Divide et impera. Christianity started to lose its hold on society when it splintered into a thousand Protestant sects and those sects had to set up separation of church and state because none of them was powerful enough to take control of the United States. Today christianity means everything and nothing, at least in many parts of Europe, and "cafeteria christians" are much easier to deal with than coherent true believers.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:35 am
by MarcusAu
That strategy makes sense, but even with christianity there are some sects that push the bounds of credibility a shade too far.
The mormons and even the scientologists (I think) still name check Jesus. And I'm not sure I would classify the religious gumbo that is Santiera, or the spritual chop-suey of the Tiaping Heavenly Kingdom as christian (though they certainly were / are christian influenced).
Then again if the Gnostics can be grandfathered in - anything must be acceptable. (And in the final analysis it's not for me to say).
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:56 am
by Steersman
Service Dog wrote:
Sunder wrote:
<snip>
Even Republicans would not confirm Sarah Palin for the SCOTUS. They want a strict constructionist, not an illiterate.
Naw... ya dont nominate her. You just hang-out with her all day & make heads explode. Then nominate Judge Grotius, like yesterday.
"Ladies & Gentlemen, my nominee is a strict constructionist. Tremendously strict. Very very. I know construction... .... I don't want you blurting-out 'Sally Yates'. Betrayer. Bigtime, huge..."
:lol: :clap: [credit where credit is due; I'm sure you could write Baldwin's scripts for SNL ... ;-) ]
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:00 am
by feathers
Shatterface wrote:Do NOT google 'tranny blow out'.
Unless you get a boner from car transmissions.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:01 am
by Bhurzum
Speaking of trans*...
[youtube][/youtube]
Very interesting insight into BW's background.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:02 am
by feathers
Billie from Ockham wrote:Was that just a throw-away comment of did Watson really fuck someone other than Adam? That must have broken a certain biologist's heart.
RW has a new boyfriend, moved to Colorado IIRC, and, may the heavens help it, got herself a puppy. (Cats are outplaced for now)
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:06 am
by Steersman
rayshul wrote:I think Brendan O'Neill is having a crisis of political faith. His Facebook is just a stream of depression.
Seems to be one of the more sensible and circumspect commentators these days:
O'Neill wrote:I don’t like Donald Trump. I think his executive order barring travel from certain countries is rash and illiberal. And yet I cannot get behind the hyperbolic, Holocaust-citing protests against him. I cannot line up with the idea that he’s a uniquely bad president, possibly the worst ever; that he’s an ‘aberration’, ‘abnormal’, someone we must never ‘normalise’. I can’t do that for the simple reason that treating Trump as abnormal implicitly normalises that which preceded him. It whitewashes history. It forgives, or dilutes, the crimes of past politicians.
The idea that Trump is different — scarily, historically different — is everywhere. ‘Don’t treat Trump as a normal president’, says a headline in the Guardian. Apparently Theresa May hasn’t ‘sufficiently absorbed that Trump is an aberration’. The New Yorker frets over the dangers of ‘welcom[ing] Trumpism into the fold of mainstream American ideas’. Celebs warn against normalising Trump because in truth he’s ‘something terrifying’. Protesters insist he’s an abnormal president, comparable only to one person in history. ‘We are history teachers and we know how this ends,’ said a placard at the Downing St demo last night, complete with images of Trump as Hitler. Pity the kids being taught by these people. ...
One hopes cooler heads will prevail, although the level of hysteria would seem to suggest otherwise.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:09 am
by Spike13
TheMudbrooker wrote:
deLurch wrote:
TheMudbrooker wrote:I think it's safe to say the tone of the Trump administration has been established: Ideas, whether good or bad, rolled out and implemented with all the skill and finesse of a pimply teen getting laid for the first time.
They are all going to scream bloody murder no matter what, so why bother trying to finesse the situation.
Yeah, the shriekers are gonna shriek no matter what, but I have this quaint, old-fashioned notion that when a new President announces a policy that he campaigned on for over a year it shouldn't look like something they thought up twenty minutes ago.
Yes like the Obamacare roll out... very smooth.
I will say, he said he wanted to do things, so far he's trying to deliver.
Compare that to Clintons gays serving in the military promise ( broken)
Obama's gonna close gitmo day one( broken,still open eight years later)
HW Bush' read my lips, no new taxes( broken)
Just a small sampling.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:23 am
by free thoughtpolice
Kirbmarc wrote:
Tigzy wrote:I thought music was haram, though. :think:
This is a point of contention between muslim scholars. There's nothing explicitly against music in the Qu'ran. There are a couple of verses about islam about Satan tempting men with "vices" and other verses about islam being against "vanities" and "idleness", which different schools of islam interpret in different ways. There are a couple of ahadit which can interpreted as being against music but that's neither here nor there.
Salafis, being utter cunts in general, usually see music as sinful, although even among them the question of whether music is prohibited or not isn't completely settled. In Sufism music is even used for religious purposes (this is one of the reasons why other muslims think that Sufis aren't muslim).
Anyway while being against music is usually a sign you're a conservative cunt being pro-music doesn't mean you're not a muslim supremacist. There muslim supremacists who enjoy playing instruments and singing. There are even some muslim supremacy rappers. Actually some pioneers of the gangsta-rapper genre were muslims affiliated to the Nation of Islam and they were also black separatists/supremacists.
That sounds pretty much accurate. The salafi outlook at least from the hard core viewpoint is the music for entertainment or enjoyments sake is sinful and musical instruments likewise with the exception of a hand drum which according to a hadith was acceptable to the prophet. Singing is considered acceptable if it has a religious purpose (lyrics) and has no music instruments other than the hand drum included. https://islamqa.info/en/5000
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:44 am
by sp0tlight
katamari Damassi wrote:Also, Phil Plait is leaving Slate, taking his good looks and charisma, and moving to Syfy Wire.
He was at Slate? No wonder I didn't read anything penned by him in ages. Syfy still better than Salon.
Roxane Gay is not here for Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos.
Little surprise, since Yiannopoulos is a raging racist. So racist, in fact, he was banned from Twitter after leading an online harassment campaign against comedian and actor (and queen) Leslie Jones.
Anyway, the iconic author put her money where her mouth is.
Gay was all set to have her upcoming book, How to Be Heard, published by Simon & Schuster when she discovered that the publisher had reported a $250,000 book deal with racist-face himself.
Gay put the scratch on her dealings with the publisher real quick, telling BuzzFeed News that she asked her agent, Maria Massie, to pull her project from the publisher last weekend.
Her statement:
When the announcement about Milo’s book first came out, I was relieved because I thought I didn’t have a book with Simon & Schuster and tweeted something to that effect. Then I remembered my TED Book and that TED is an imprint of Simon & Schuster. I was supposed to turn the book in this month and I kept thinking about how egregious it is to give someone like Milo a platform for his blunt, inelegant hate and provocation. I just couldn’t bring myself to turn the book in. My editor emailed me last week and I kept staring at that email in my inbox and finally over the weekend I asked my agent to pull the book.
Though TED Books and Threshold are vastly different imprints, they both reside within Simon & Schuster and so I guess I’m putting my money where my mouth is. And to be clear, this isn’t about censorship. Milo has every right to say what he wants to say, however distasteful I and many others find it to be. He doesn’t have a right to have a book published by a major publisher but he has, in some bizarre twist of fate, been afforded that privilege. So be it. I’m not interested in doing business with a publisher willing to grant him that privilege. I am also fortunate enough to be in a position to make this decision. I recognize that other writers aren’t and understand that completely.
Soon, however, pushback against the publisher transitioned from simple outrage to calls for organized resistance. One literary journal announced a boycott on coverage in 2017:
An indie bookstore also tweeted that it would not be stocking Simon & Schuster titles thanks to the Yiannopoulos deal:
Some readers tweeted their agreement, noting that they couldn’t give their money to a publisher that supported Yiannopoulos’ message. Even Judd Apatow chimed in.
Hillary Clinton will publish a book this fall of personal essays “inspired by the hundreds of quotations she has been collecting for decades,” Simon & Schuster announced Wednesday.
“These are the words I live by,” Clinton said in a statement. “These quotes have helped me celebrate the good times, laugh at the absurd times, persevere during the hard times and deepen my appreciation of all life has to offer.”
...
Carolyn Reidy, president and CEO of Simon & Schuster, said the publishing company is “honored to continue our long and successful publishing relationship with” Clinton. Simon & Schuster has published all five of Clinton’s past books and has obtained world publishing rights in all formats for her newest composition
And to be clear, this isn’t about censorship. Milo has every right to say what he wants to say, however distasteful I and many others find it to be. He doesn’t have a right to have a book published by a major publisher but he has, in some bizarre twist of fate, been afforded that privilege.
Brain explodes.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:26 pm
by Lsuoma
MPs overwhelmingly back Brexit - 498/411. Let's see what those wacky Lords a' Leaping do now?
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:33 pm
by InfraRedBucket
Bhurzum wrote:Speaking of trans*...
[youtube][/youtube]
Very interesting insight into BW's background.
Blaire may well be one of those "reasonable transpersons" like Theryn Mayer (according to J Petersen)
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:40 pm
by Malky
An article that should be of interest to Democrat supporters but probaly will br ignored by them:
And to be clear, this isn’t about censorship. Milo has every right to say what he wants to say, however distasteful I and many others find it to be. He doesn’t have a right to have a book published by a major publisher but he has, in some bizarre twist of fate, been afforded that privilege.
Brain explodes.
She's technically right, it's not censorship, it's call for a boycott and for blacklisting.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:46 pm
by Bhurzum
InfraRedBucket wrote:Blaire may well be one of those "reasonable transpersons" like Theryn Mayer (according to J Petersen)
When you consider the wider trans* "community", home of the Tumblr crowd, Blaire could chainsaw the head off a puppy whilst humming nazi marching tunes and still appear to be one of the more reasonable trans* peeps.
Yup.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:46 pm
by Kirbmarc
Lsuoma wrote:MPs overwhelmingly back Brexit - 498/411. Let's see what those wacky Lords a' Leaping do now?
InfraRedBucket wrote:Blaire may well be one of those "reasonable transpersons" like Theryn Mayer (according to J Petersen)
When you consider the wider trans* "community", home of the Tumblr crowd, Blaire could chainsaw the head off a puppy whilst humming nazi marching tunes and still appear to be one of the more reasonable trans* peeps.
Yup.
Most of the trans* people of tumblr are stupid teens roleplaying as the favorite flavor of special snowflakeness ("Oh, I'm a man and don't like sports, I'm trans*!/I'm a woman and I like pants, I'm totally trans* too!/I feel like a fictional character, I'm an otherkin!"). And trolls.
Real trans people are probably as rare on tumblr as in real life.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:02 pm
by Tigzy
Kirbmarc wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:MPs overwhelmingly back Brexit - 498/411. Let's see what those wacky Lords a' Leaping do now?
What Kirb said. As for the Lords - as far as I'm aware, they don't block something which was an election promise (re, Cameron's 'we will implement what you decide') but they could conceivably find some quibbling loopholes in the faint hope of delaying it out of existence. So they probably won't bother, given that an act of Parliament could force the bill through anyway.
Even if there did exist a mechanism through which the Lords could block it, they'd undoubtedly be looking at how deep the foundations of their office might go in a situation where an unelected body imposed its will over a Commons and public majority, to the effect of keeping us in an institution which is only just barely democratic.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:05 pm
by free thoughtpolice
Gazi the Nazi ridicules SJWs and safe spaces, but still is a stupis asshole:
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Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:08 pm
by Tigzy
Also, Diane Abbot has been exposed (ew!) as an absolute coward by conveniently becoming too ill to vote on the Article 50 bill, the snakey cow. :lol:
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:54 pm
by Billie from Ockham
Lsuoma wrote:
Really? wrote:
Her statement:
And to be clear, this isn’t about censorship. Milo has every right to say what he wants to say, however distasteful I and many others find it to be. He doesn’t have a right to have a book published by a major publisher but he has, in some bizarre twist of fate, been afforded that privilege.
Brain explodes.
"I sure hope that nobody notices our new best-seller."
- publishing manager of The Institute of Contemporary History of Munich
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:57 pm
by CommanderTuvok
Tigzy wrote:Also, Diane Abbot has been exposed (ew!) as an absolute coward by conveniently becoming too ill to vote on the Article 50 bill, the snakey cow. :lol:
Hold on....that would be the SAME Diane Abbot who is so against posh, public school (these are actually "private", for you Colonial Commoners) education that she decided to send her children to one?
Oh, and hold on again....is this the SAME Diane Abbot who is always banging on about racism, but implied white people don't care their children as much as Caribbean parents?
Anyway...oh...hold...on...just once more...is this same Diane Abbot who is always banging on about human rights abuses in the West, but praised Maoist China, and half-justified the millions that died during their great leap backwards, recently???
Hypocrisy is her middle name.
:lol:
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:57 pm
by sp0tlight
free thoughtpolice wrote:Gazi the Nazi ridicules SJWs and safe spaces, but still is a stupis asshole:
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I must admit I laughed a little. I guess I still take someone with strong class bend over someone with identify bend.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:02 pm
by Billie from Ockham
Tigzy wrote:Also, Diane Abbot has been exposed (ew!) as an absolute coward by conveniently becoming too ill to vote on the Article 50 bill, the snakey cow. :lol:
You mean that she pulled the same stunt as Hilary Clinton when it came to voting on the bankruptcy bill?
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:03 pm
by Brive1987
feathers wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Was that just a throw-away comment of did Watson really fuck someone other than Adam? That must have broken a certain biologist's heart.
RW has a new boyfriend, moved to Colorado IIRC, and, may the heavens help it, got herself a puppy. (Cats are outplaced for now)
No she visited Colorado but moved into her own place only a couple of hundred distressing metres from a bunkered down Adam - SF
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:04 pm
by Tigzy
CommanderTuvok wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Also, Diane Abbot has been exposed (ew!) as an absolute coward by conveniently becoming too ill to vote on the Article 50 bill, the snakey cow. :lol:
Hold on....that would be the SAME Diane Abbot who is so against posh, public school (these are actually "private", for you Colonial Commoners) education that she decided to send her children to one?
Oh, and hold on again....is this the SAME Diane Abbot who is always banging on about racism, but implied white people don't care their children as much as Caribbean parents?
Anyway...oh...hold...on...just once more...is this same Diane Abbot who is always banging on about human rights abuses in the West, but praised Maoist China, and half-justified the millions that died during their great leap backwards, recently???
Hypocrisy is her middle name.
:lol:
Corbyn's ex girlfriend too. Still can't quite get my head around that. Obi-Wan and the wobbly one.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:12 pm
by Kirbmarc
CommanderTuvok wrote:
Oh, and hold on again....is this the SAME Diane Abbot who is always banging on about racism, but implied white people don't care their children as much as Caribbean parents?
Anyway...oh...hold...on...just once more...is this same Diane Abbot who is always banging on about human rights abuses in the West, but praised Maoist China, and half-justified the millions that died during their great leap backwards, recently???
Hypocrisy is her middle name.
:lol:
POCs can't be racist. Or bloodthirsty tyrants. Tyranny is killing the citizens of your country plus power. POCs can never have any power, even when they do.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:16 pm
by deLurch
feathers wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Was that just a throw-away comment of did Watson really fuck someone other than Adam? That must have broken a certain biologist's heart.
RW has a new boyfriend, moved to Colorado IIRC, and, may the heavens help it, got herself a puppy. (Cats are outplaced for now)
No. That was just a trip to Colorado. She is still foolishly paying more for rent than she can afford.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:26 pm
by Sunder
Malky wrote:An article that should be of interest to Democrat supporters but probaly will br ignored by them:
Agree with most of it except the bit about " raising the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes."
This is not merely an unpopular policy, it's an unnecessary one. It's the liberal solution to a problem that conservatives imagined into existence but isn't actually a thing.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:42 pm
by Billie from Ockham
Nothing wrong with visiting Colorado. I can think of 10 ... maybe 15 ... heck, I could see myself visiting four twenty reasons.
Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:53 pm
by Shatterface
Tigzy wrote:Corbyn's ex girlfriend too. Still can't quite get my head around that. Obi-Wan and the wobbly one.
CommanderTuvok wrote:I love tormenting Starbucks-sipping SJWs. Just gently bring up the topic of them not paying their fucking taxes - and their white faces go bright red.
Refugees who are admitted through legal channels can legally work in the US and I assume would pay taxes like the rest of us.
The problem is not the refugees paying taxes -- it's Starbucks themselves.
Indeed. Pandering to a pedophile and psychotic "Prophet" (piss be upon him), and his pathetic proponents. Some increasing levels of pushback:
Though methinks they're a case of the left(ist) hand not knowing what the right-ist (Islamic) hand is doing:
Hope it bites them seriously in the ass:
And I'm happy to see Milo giving them all both barrels, though a little disconcerting to see him wearing, apparently, a bullet-proof vest:
But I'm not terribly impressed with Twitter in general as they recently blocked my account until I had deleted a couple of tweets that had apparently offended a Muslim of overly delicate sensibilities (and manifest cluelessness):
Tigzy wrote:Also, Diane Abbot has been exposed (ew!) as an absolute coward by conveniently becoming too ill to vote on the Article 50 bill, the snakey cow. :lol:
Hold on....that would be the SAME Diane Abbot who is so against posh, public school (these are actually "private", for you Colonial Commoners) education that she decided to send her children to one?
Oh, and hold on again....is this the SAME Diane Abbot who is always banging on about racism, but implied white people don't care their children as much as Caribbean parents?
Anyway...oh...hold...on...just once more...is this same Diane Abbot who is always banging on about human rights abuses in the West, but praised Maoist China, and half-justified the millions that died during their great leap backwards, recently???
Hypocrisy is her middle name.
:lol:
Corbyn's ex girlfriend too. Still can't quite get my head around that. Obi-Wan and the wobbly one.
Actually as hard as it is to believe with the creature she is now, she wasn't particularly physically unattractive in her early days as a MP.
She was my local MP way back in 87 whe she first won her seat in Hackney - "Black sections" n all that but she was bright and I gave her the benefit of any doubt at the time. I moved away a few years after 87,
but IMO she actually did very little for the local borough and knew she was in one of the safest labour seats in the country. She was too busy wanting the national spotlight. She also developed that irritating tendency to close her eyes when talking to interviewers. Plus all the other stuff.
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Andrew Neil gave her a roasting a few years back
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Re: Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm
by Billie from Ockham
New rule: whenever someone posts a Star Wars meme, I will kill a chicken duck woman thing, regardless of whom it was waiting for.