Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!

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It seems that the Pits favorite Anti feminist cam girl is now doing, wait for it... TENTACLE PORN !!!

Anti feminist, yet neon green hair, numerous tats, and into tentacle porn

PZ is conflicted
After perusing this young lady's social media, I can confirm she has an impressive array of weird things to cram up her bumhole.

Kudos.

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Shatterface wrote:
Za-zen wrote:The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
That's precisely my reason for supporting fascist Zionists. The suits. Taylor row in fact. All their soldiers wear them. Because Jew.
Does Taylor row make the suicide vests the Zionists wear when they go into Gazan pizza shops to blow up innocent Palestinian teenagers too?

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Lsuoma wrote:So, Brian Cant is now going to Play Away forever.
That's a kick in the cant.

I cant even.

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Top of the page with two puns! This is how we attract new members!

Time for some Cant.

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https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg

Stop Press: I think we may have a positive ID:


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InfraRedBucket wrote:https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg

Stop Press: I think we may have a positive ID:


Nah .. They said he was Welsh.

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The man arrested on suspicion of carrying out a terror attack near a north London mosque is Darren Osborne from Cardiff, the BBC understands.
The father-of-four was held after a van hit Muslims who had been attending evening prayers in Finsbury Park.
They had been helping a man who had collapsed. He later died but it is not clear if it was because of the attack.
Mr Osborne, 47, was held on suspicion of attempted murder and later further arrested over alleged terror offences.
Police are carrying out searches at an address in the Cardiff area.
Security Minister Ben Wallace said the suspect was not known to the security services, and was believed to have acted alone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40332616

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dogen wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:So, Brian Cant is now going to Play Away forever.
RIP, Brian. Brought me much joy as a kid.
I was half expecting a comeback. Derek Griffiths did - he was in Coronation Street recently. They're from the same generation of children's presenters. He did some acting. He was once exterminated by a Dalek.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Shatterface wrote:
Za-zen wrote:The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
That's precisely my reason for supporting fascist Zionists. The suits. Taylor row in fact. All their soldiers wear them. Because Jew.
Does Taylor row make the suicide vests the Zionists wear when they go into Gazan pizza shops to blow up innocent Palestinian teenagers too?
Not Taylor row, but they do buy most of their bombs they use to massacre the children of the land they illegally occupy, from various streets in London and Washington.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Meanwhile the clatter of sabres rattling becomes louder:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241

Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.
In other news: [urlhttp://www.newsweek.com/israel-secretly-paying ... hts-627155]Israel secretly paying salaries of Syrian rebels on Golan Heights border[/url]

This confirms what people already knew: Israel is financing Salafi militas against Assad.

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Note the title.

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Shatterface wrote:
Za-zen wrote:The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
That's precisely my reason for supporting fascist Zionists. The suits. Taylor row in fact. All their soldiers wear them. Because Jew.
Is Taylor row a thing ? I thought it was Saville Row ... or tailor-made ... or are we not allowed to say Saville any more because of Jimmy ... and wasn't it the jews who made the suits not wore them ?

I'm confused !

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Really? wrote:Note the title.

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Fuck me, but he looks like Savile in that picture, don't he??

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bespoke

It's only tangentially relevant - but I just wanted to say it.


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Here's some shocking news everybody:

The hobby of quilting has been politicised and destroyed by some nasty right-wing conservatives who are hounding out the poor liberal hobbyists: According to this totally unbiased article by the BBC

Who would have seen this coming ?

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MarcusAu wrote:bespoke

It's only tangentially relevant - but I just wanted to say it.
And...we're back to "Which side does Sir dress on?"

Curiously, I was unaware of the concept until a senior registrar asked it in his best Gieves and Hawkes voice of an unconscious adult who had just undergone a circumcision.

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For those who are interested in the history of Salafi groups in the UK, here's a very interesting article:
In the aftermath of the attacks on London Bridge, various British media outlets revealed Khuram Butt and Youssef Zaghba, two of the three men who killed at least eight people during their rampage, were part of the al-Muhajiroun network, one of Britain’s first, most influential, and most studied Salafi-jihadist movements. While its activities have been carried out under the banners of various groups, al-Muhajiroun is best understood as a network of likeminded and closely connected individuals with a physical presence in the United Kingdom and a number of European countries. It practices and preaches a specific brand of Salafi-jihadism that has found a way to survive and grow in Western countries. This is largely due to the savvy of its members, who have found ways to continue operating despite numerous bans on the groups they have formed around.
The interpretation of this concept by al-Muhajiroun has manifested into an aggressive and confrontational demand for the establishment of Islamic law. It has also prompted them to attempt to enforce their socially conservative views in their local areas. In 2014, al-Muhajroun members were filmed conducting ‘sharia patrols’ around areas of London, harassing homosexuals and women deemed to be immodestly dressed.
One of the key concepts which the movement promotes among its members is the Salafi notion of al wala’ wal bara’ — or, loyalty and enmity. It is applied by Salafi movements in order to define and activate boundaries between what they see as “rightly guided” Muslims who one must be loyal to, and “deviant” sects as well as non-Muslims who are to be rejected and hated. Originally formulated by 13th Century Hanbali scholar Ibn Taymiyya, its purpose is to preserve the purity of Islam as defined in the Koran and Hadith, and create a devoted and ideological group of followers. Joas Wagemakers, a leading expert on Salafism, identifies al wala’ wal bara’ as a means used by modern day Salafis, and jihadis in particular, to clearly convey the war on Islam concept because it “establishes such a clear dichotomy between ‘pure’ Islam and everything else that it lends itself perfectly to the frequent attempts by Salafis to frame Islam as being under attack.”
The doctrine lends itself well to the creation of a cult of victimhood. al-Muhajroun’s interpretation of Islam obligates them to establish a theocracy. Anything that gets in their way, including the values of liberal secular states, is taken as a gross attack on their faith. Members come to feel under constant siege, either from the criticism of liberals or the security authorities trying to curtail their activities.
The activities and ideology of al-Muhajiroun, while usually avoiding explicit support for terrorism and mass murder, are nonetheless a key part of the radicalization of followers who have gone on to commit acts like we saw in London. Not only do we see a devaluing of life itself, but a glorification of martyrdom and jihad combined with an effort to dehumanize non-Muslim fellow citizens and a victimhood mentality. All of this combined can create a very dangerous person, and it becomes easier to understand how someone can commit the types of horrific acts we have now become all too accustomed to.
Shortly after the attacks, British Prime Minister Theresa May set her sights on the Internet and technology companies, calling on them to be held to account for providing platforms for extremist propaganda. While this is undoubtedly an important issue, and many of the biggest companies have made huge strides in this regard, the role of the Internet should not be overstated. Networks like al-Muhajiroun and their impact on local recruitment are a reminder of the importance of real-world networks and what they offer.[/quote

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Lsuoma wrote:.
Now, what we need to see if a few hoof prints on Antifa cunts. Or more than a few, if they continue to target animals.
I never thought I'd say this, but that dame could use a good Poll Taxing, aka "the Community Charge".

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shoutinghorse wrote:You'd know all about sectarian attacks wouldn't you Gerry :shock:

No way!!!!!

No fucking way. Is this a joke? It surely is.

No way!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Jan Steen wrote: What is going on here? If you look through the comments on that thread, you will see many Trump supporters supporting Trump. But my comments were deemed so far out of line that they needed to be erased, not just delated, but memory-holed, as if they had never existed.

Was it perhaps because I hit a nerve? Was it because it is undeniably true that toxic people like Rebecca Solnit are not working against Trump when they write against him, but act in his favour whenever they open their demented, regressive mouths?

If we want to get rid of Trump, the fucking SJW loons, who are his counterpart on the far Left, should be kept away from the microphone. They are just enabling the orange imbecile.
Yeah, the Guardian have been playing particularly silly buggers with the comments for a while now. My favorite is closing the comments on controversial topics (on the rare occasions when they allow them) within a couple of hours of the article going up.

I never really cared for their old approach of deleting something quite innocuous, leaving only your username next to a "this post has been deleted" notification text. It was a great way to make it appear to the casual observer that you might have posted some racist screed or misogynistic rant. Although by Guardian standards, you probably had.

Try setting up an account with a name that sounds vaguely female and possibly ethnic. See how the bonds of moderation suddenly relax.

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piginthecity wrote:Here's some shocking news everybody:

The hobby of quilting has been politicised and destroyed by some nasty right-wing conservatives who are hounding out the poor liberal hobbyists: According to this totally unbiased article by the BBC

Who would have seen this coming ?
Ha ha. I actually listened to the "trending podcast", earlier. The justifications used by the conservative quilting group was straight out of the SJW dictionary. They even said there secret Facebook group, where they bitched about "liberal" quilters, was a "safe space". :lol:

Their behaviour is EXACTLY like the SJWs, and how they try to drum people out of movements.

PS - The BBC's "trending podcast" has a history of "exploring" the online culture wars, but it is not particularly partial. Also, rarely an episode goes by without them mentioning Pepe, and how influential he is.

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BTW, don't know whether it was mentioned here, but in London on Sunday, hours before the moron drove a van into people outside a mosque, it was the annual "al-Quds" Day. Strangely, Corbyn didn't attend this one. He don't usually miss out on his annual antisemtic hate-fest. Main take-away from this years rally, was that Grenfell Tower was burnt down by "Joos", or something.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Meanwhile the clatter of sabres rattling becomes louder:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241

Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.
In other news: [urlhttp://www.newsweek.com/israel-secretly-paying ... hts-627155]Israel secretly paying salaries of Syrian rebels on Golan Heights border[/url]

This confirms what people already knew: Israel is financing Salafi militas against Assad.
Are these militias salafist? I know that the Syrian government calls them terrorist and the Iranians call them takfiris but is there a reliable source that puts them in alliance with al Qaeda for instance or are they just run of the mill muslims? My understanding is there are almost as many militias as there are villages and clans in the conflict, with varying degrees of commitment to a religious outlook.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Meanwhile the clatter of sabres rattling becomes louder:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241

Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.
In other news: [urlhttp://www.newsweek.com/israel-secretly-paying ... hts-627155]Israel secretly paying salaries of Syrian rebels on Golan Heights border[/url]

This confirms what people already knew: Israel is financing Salafi militas against Assad.
Are these militias salafist? I know that the Syrian government calls them terrorist and the Iranians call them takfiris but is there a reliable source that puts them in alliance with al Qaeda for instance or are they just run of the mill muslims? My understanding is there are almost as many militias as there are villages and clans in the conflict, with varying degrees of commitment to a religious outlook.
Syria's 'Army of Islam' Says It Wants No War With Israel
There was a time when you could count on hard-core Sunni Islamists in the Middle East to be reliably opposed to the existence of the Jewish state. Organizations ranging from the Muslim Brotherhood to al-Qaeda disagreed on everything from jurisprudence to short-term strategy, but when it came to Israel there was consensus.

The slaughter in Syria is changing that. Take, for example, Jaish al-Islam, a Syrian coalition of rebels whose name translates conveniently to "Army of Islam." Mohammed Alloush, the political leader of the group, Wednesday told me his fighters did not seek war with Israel.

"We have no intention to make war against anyone except for the Syrian regime," he said. "If we compare all the killing in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, the Syrian regime has committed many more crimes than the whole conflict. Our aim now is to get rid of the Syrian regime," he said.
Alloush's statements also show that Israel has purchased some goodwill among the Syrian opposition. Israel operates a field hospital on its side of the Syrian border for many Syrian rebels, including at times members of terrorist groups like the Islamic State and the al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusrah. Israeli officials have told me that they do not expect much intelligence value from the hospital, and Alloush told me he thinks it's an important humanitarian gesture.
To be sure, Alloush's organization is not comprised of Jeffersonian democrats. "Jaish al-Islam is one of the more frustrating rebel groups to anatomize in Syria. In every sense but one they are unpalatable to the West," Michael Weiss, co-author of "ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror," told me. "They have trafficked in murderous sectarian rhetoric and paraded allegedly pro-regime prisoners in cages, purportedly as 'human shields' to forestall airstrikes." The group has also been accused, although they deny it, of kidnapping the human rights activist Razan Zeitouneh.

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Main take-away from this years rally, was that Grenfell Tower was burnt down by "Joos", or something.
At 2:30ish that Shafiq in the Piers Morgan clip talks about the Grenfell Tower attacks.

youtu be/yZCwFptBjbc?t=148

"We are hurting from Manchester, we are hurting from London, we are hurting from the Grenfell Tower attacks"

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:You'd know all about sectarian attacks wouldn't you Gerry :shock:

No way!!!!!

No fucking way. Is this a joke? It surely is.

No way!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0cAeMOWQAAvZus.jpg:large

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Meanwhile the clatter of sabres rattling becomes louder:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241

Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.
In other news: [urlhttp://www.newsweek.com/israel-secretly-paying ... hts-627155]Israel secretly paying salaries of Syrian rebels on Golan Heights border[/url]

This confirms what people already knew: Israel is financing Salafi militas against Assad.
Are these militias salafist? I know that the Syrian government calls them terrorist and the Iranians call them takfiris but is there a reliable source that puts them in alliance with al Qaeda for instance or are they just run of the mill muslims? My understanding is there are almost as many militias as there are villages and clans in the conflict, with varying degrees of commitment to a religious outlook.
They're not Al-Qaeda, they're Jaiysh Al-Islam. Still Salafi, still want a Sunni theocratic regime in Syria, but they don't attack the "west" or Israel and are only happy with mass murdering non-Sunni Syrians. Not exactly "run of the mill muslims", although what they do is run of the mill islamic theocracy.

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shoutinghorse wrote:
Just a reminder of how HuffPo covers the story:
North Korea Proves Your White Male Privilege Is Not Universal

As shocked as I am by the sentence handed down to Warmbier, I am even more shocked that a grown man, an American citizen, would not only voluntarily enter North Korea but also commit what’s been described a “college-style prank.” That kind of reckless gall is an unfortunate side effect of being socialized first as a white boy, and then as a white man in this country. Every economic, academic, legal and social system in this country has for more than three centuries functioned with the implicit purpose of ensuring that white men are the primary benefactors of all privilege. The kind of arrogance bred by that kind of conditioning is pathogenic, causing its host to develop a subconscious yet no less obnoxious perception that the rules do not apply to him, or at least that their application is negotiable.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9531122

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People talk about Islamophobia, but nobody hates muslims like other muslims. Even different Salafi groups, who share the same goals and ideology, routinely fight each other due to different strategies.

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InfraRedBucket wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:You'd know all about sectarian attacks wouldn't you Gerry :shock:

[tweet]

No way!!!!!

No fucking way. Is this a joke? It surely is.

No way!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Lovely stuff!

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Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:snip

Good thing all of the movers and shakers around these parts have me on "IGNORE". lol

snip

Hey, that sounds like my status in the Pit lol Or does that illustrious title belong to Steersman ?
They're just jealous because you know hot babes.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:The Allies needed full flexibility to chain up the repeat mad-dog nation in whatever manner they deemed fit.
Except they resuscitated France instead.

Nazism had to be put to the sword by its external foes. And this humiliation was a precondition for denazification.
Nazism never had strong popular support. By the end of 1942, nearly everyone realized the nazis were leading the nation to ruin. Supporting the domestic resistance movement was the best way to eliminating nazism.

Humiliation is never a good approach. As applied in WWII, 'humiliation' meant tangible destruction, suffering, and death for millions of innocents. Only a sociopath could endorse that.
Further, by 1944 it was too late to try and establish some form of moral distinction between NSDAP and High Command. Kill Hitler and get .... Keitel? fan-boy Rommel?
You don't seem very well-informed on the anti-Hitler resistance movement. Keitel was slated for summary execution. Rommel hadn't been a 'fan-boi' for years. OKW was to be cleaned out; the liberal and former chief of Staff, Beck, was to take over. Centrist politician Goerdeler as Chancellor, socialist Julius Leber as president. The only Nazi fellow traveler to be possibly retained was Speer.

I recommend Peter Hoffman's encyclopedic The History of The German Resistance 1933-1945.
Hmm.
Supporting the domestic resistance movement
Is over-egging the pudding.

My reference to Keitel was that the perception of the allies was that the military leadership was as a whole a complicit driver of nazism and therefore not part of a unilateral solution.

Keitel is an obvious example of toadyism and everybody wanted him dead. Rommel was also slated as Nazi fan-boy. He had led Hitler's body guard 5 years previous and had since been the nazi centrefold. Even his private facing feelings in 1944 were complex - "Rommel denied involvement in the plot, declared his love for Hitler and that he would gladly serve his "Fatherland" again." Allied endorsed solution? Yeah, no.

It was General Blomberg who sold the army to Hitler in 1934 with the oath. The Nazi generals displayed their lack of resolve to the British in 1938 with their limp-dick Czech inspired plot. Generals Halder and Brauchitsch nixed opposition in 1939. All but the most conservative of the conservative elites jumped on-board with the spearing of the 1919 ghosts during 1940-1941. Even in 1944 a common theme was reticence to besmirch their honour ..... but if someone else would kill Hitler, well then come have a chat (Kluge et al).

There were inspired individuals like Oster, Tresckow and Olbricht but they were too little and too late for the Allies to give them time of day. The idea that there was a credible and honourable "movement" as an alternative to u/surrender is wishful thinking.

Further the unchallenged tropes of Triumph of the Will, the public support that made the nazis the most popular party in Weimar, the acclaim for the successful wars of aggression in 1940/1, the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide all made the obvious and humiliating third party destruction of Nazism a war aim.

Given that, you can debate the how's (ie strategic bombing) - but one way or another you were going to have to ram a T34 up the Reichstag.

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Cnutella wrote:
I never really cared for their old approach of deleting something quite innocuous, leaving only your username next to a "this post has been deleted" notification text. It was a great way to make it appear to the casual observer that you might have posted some racist screed or misogynistic rant. Although by Guardian standards, you probably had.
They've often equated comments that didn't meet their "community standards" with abuse of the author, even using the number of deleted comments under articles to measure the "online harassment" that their writers were receiving.

The Guardian claim that they never remove comments simply because they disagree with the author, but anyone who's refreshed the page on certain topics will know that's untrue. I think I gave up on the Guardian after having 3 or 4 carefully worded and non-abusive comments in a row deleted.

It was always really unpredictable what would and wouldn't be allowed, especially as some authors had moderation rights on the comment sections under their articles. I've had some pretty blatant trolling (that I expected to get deleted) left up, while comments just trying to clarify the author's point, or quoting some contradictory statistics (even from another Guardian article) were removed in moments.

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Shatterface wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:
Just a reminder of how HuffPo covers the story:
North Korea Proves Your White Male Privilege Is Not Universal

As shocked as I am by the sentence handed down to Warmbier, I am even more shocked that a grown man, an American citizen, would not only voluntarily enter North Korea but also commit what’s been described a “college-style prank.” That kind of reckless gall is an unfortunate side effect of being socialized first as a white boy, and then as a white man in this country. Every economic, academic, legal and social system in this country has for more than three centuries functioned with the implicit purpose of ensuring that white men are the primary benefactors of all privilege. The kind of arrogance bred by that kind of conditioning is pathogenic, causing its host to develop a subconscious yet no less obnoxious perception that the rules do not apply to him, or at least that their application is negotiable.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9531122
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KiwiInOz wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:snip

Good thing all of the movers and shakers around these parts have me on "IGNORE". lol

snip

Hey, that sounds like my status in the Pit lol Or does that illustrious title belong to Steersman ?
They're just jealous because you know hot babes.
I thought they were jealous of my double wide ???

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Laci Green is going to be on Dave Rubin's show next month, apparently.
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

A lot of the SJWs and regressives, who are alarmed that Laci has being giving off strong signals that she is not fully indoctrinated in their cult, will be spewing vomit at the thought of Rubin interviewing her. This is because Rubin is some sort of alt-right figurehead these days. Apparently. Lol.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Laci Green is going to be on Dave Rubin's show next month, apparently.
:popcorn:
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

A lot of the SJWs and regressives, who are alarmed that Laci has being giving off strong signals that she is not fully indoctrinated in their cult, will be spewing vomit at the thought of Rubin interviewing her. This is because Rubin is some sort of alt-right figurehead these days. Apparently. Lol.

Seriously man, everyone hates him for some reason.

I know a couple of younger music-scene folks who I think are smart and suspect they are beginning to see through the (inevitable for punk) intersectionalist narrative. They tend to criticise Rubin A LOT... methinks they protest too much.

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KenD wrote:
Cnutella wrote:
I never really cared for their old approach of deleting something quite innocuous, leaving only your username next to a "this post has been deleted" notification text. It was a great way to make it appear to the casual observer that you might have posted some racist screed or misogynistic rant. Although by Guardian standards, you probably had.
They've often equated comments that didn't meet their "community standards" with abuse of the author, even using the number of deleted comments under articles to measure the "online harassment" that their writers were receiving.

The Guardian claim that they never remove comments simply because they disagree with the author, but anyone who's refreshed the page on certain topics will know that's untrue. I think I gave up on the Guardian after having 3 or 4 carefully worded and non-abusive comments in a row deleted.

It was always really unpredictable what would and wouldn't be allowed, especially as some authors had moderation rights on the comment sections under their articles. I've had some pretty blatant trolling (that I expected to get deleted) left up, while comments just trying to clarify the author's point, or quoting some contradictory statistics (even from another Guardian article) were removed in moments.
One of the Guardian's favourite tactics for "moderating" comments is the "off topic" rule. Many BTL comments are massively "off topic" but happen to support or enable the ATL opinion. These will stay. But if your comment challenges the narrative, and you diverge ever so slighltly "off topic", you will be moderated.

Oh, and the most sure way to be modded on Comment is Free? Cite some facts or statistics that challenge any of their 10-a-day feminist drivel articles.

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DrokkIt wrote:Seriously man, everyone hates him for some reason.

I know a couple of younger music-scene folks who I think are smart and suspect they are beginning to see through the (inevitable for punk) intersectionalist narrative. They tend to criticise Rubin A LOT... methinks they protest too much.
One major gripe is that he doesn't challenge Trump enough, or his "right wing" guests. Well, he doesn't challenge any of his guests to any serious degree. It is more of a conversation, more than anything. As for challenging Trump, there are a 1001 media outlets that challenge Trump. Who needs another? What we do need is criticism and exposure of SJWs and regressive politics. After all, have the MSM covered Evergreen? Have they fuck!

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Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:snip

Good thing all of the movers and shakers around these parts have me on "IGNORE". lol

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Hey, that sounds like my status in the Pit lol Or does that illustrious title belong to Steersman ?
They're just jealous because you know hot babes.
I thought they were jealous of my double wide ???
I can't imagine anyone being jealous of the width of your arse.

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That is one hell of a hang over.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/finsbury-park-suspect-had-abused-muslim-neighbour/


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CommanderTuvok wrote:
DrokkIt wrote:Seriously man, everyone hates him for some reason.

I know a couple of younger music-scene folks who I think are smart and suspect they are beginning to see through the (inevitable for punk) intersectionalist narrative. They tend to criticise Rubin A LOT... methinks they protest too much.
One major gripe is that he doesn't challenge Trump enough, or his "right wing" guests. Well, he doesn't challenge any of his guests to any serious degree. It is more of a conversation, more than anything. As for challenging Trump, there are a 1001 media outlets that challenge Trump. Who needs another? What we do need is criticism and exposure of SJWs and regressive politics. After all, have the MSM covered Evergreen? Have they fuck!
I am in complete agreement. It's so obvious to see Trump's failings that it's b o r i n g hearing about them. As Hitchens said of W. Bush- "the joke idiots laugh at".

Yeah mad that Evergreen is getting no traction at all, That Bret Weinstein guy seems like an decent chap overall and this must be a brutal redpilling for him.

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They're just jealous because you know hot babes.[/quote]

I thought they were jealous of my double wide ???[/quote]

I can't imagine anyone being jealous of the width of your arse.[/quote]

I was talking about my trailer. My arse is a triple wide

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Brive1987 wrote: My reference to Keitel was that the perception of the allies was that the military leadership was as a whole a complicit driver of nazism and therefore not part of a unilateral solution.

Keitel is an obvious example of toadyism and everybody wanted him dead. Rommel was also slated as Nazi fan-boy. He had led Hitler's body guard 5 years previous and had since been the nazi centrefold. Even his private facing feelings in 1944 were complex - "Rommel denied involvement in the plot, declared his love for Hitler and that he would gladly serve his "Fatherland" again." Allied endorsed solution? Yeah, no.

It was General Blomberg who sold the army to Hitler in 1934 with the oath. The Nazi generals displayed their lack of resolve to the British in 1938 with their limp-dick Czech inspired plot. Generals Halder and Brauchitsch nixed opposition in 1939. All but the most conservative of the conservative elites jumped on-board with the spearing of the 1919 ghosts during 1940-1941. Even in 1944 a common theme was reticence to besmirch their honour ..... but if someone else would kill Hitler, well then come have a chat (Kluge et al).

There were inspired individuals like Oster, Tresckow and Olbricht but they were too little and too late for the Allies to give them time of day. The idea that there was a credible and honourable "movement" as an alternative to u/surrender is wishful thinking.

Further the unchallenged tropes of Triumph of the Will, the public support that made the nazis the most popular party in Weimar, the acclaim for the successful wars of aggression in 1940/1, the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide all made the obvious and humiliating third party destruction of Nazism a war aim.

Given that, you can debate the how's (ie strategic bombing) - but one way or another you were going to have to ram a T34 up the Reichstag.
Thank for clearing things up. You definitely know jack shit about the German anti-Hitler resistance movement.

* Yes, the Western Allies thought the entire German military leadership was complicit in "Prussian Aggression". They were stupidly wrong about that;

* No, Rommel was fully on-board by early '43. And don't fucking quote if you aren't gonna cite your source;

* Blomberg was a dilettante and Hitler had Kompromat (a.k.a., a pee-pee tape) on him. He was ousted in '38, so I'm not sure why you're even bringing him up;

* Halder was part of a fully-developed plot among a most of the General Staff to depose Hitler in 1938 the instant he issued orders to invade Czecho-Slovakia. You wusses put the kabosh on that in Munich. I recommend Terry Parssinen's The Oster Conspiracy of 1938;

* Plotting to depose Hitler and overthrow the Nazis never ceased. The attempts in March, 1943 were not "too little too late", and in any case, the Allies knew nothing about them specifically. Had they succeeded, of course, that naif, Roosevelt, and that drunkard, Churchill, would've continued the war until they were deposed;

* Reluctance to throw in with the conspiracy was primarily due to the insane Unconditional Surrender declaration. Why weaken Germany with civil war during a world war, when your opponents would still seek to annihilate you no matter what?

* Calling the NSDAP "the most popular party in Weimar Germany" is prima facie true for one election, but exceedingly disingenuous. The SPD was the most popular party throughout the Weimar era, and the Nazi's high water mark was 32% of the vote;

* "... the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide" - by whom? The senior military command? For the most part, they were abhorred by it, and many were spurred to act against Hitler because of it. Plus, they'd only seen the sporadic round-ups and shootings behind the front, and were not aware of the full extent of the death camp machine.

You're just regurgitating a big glob of post-war rationalization and British jingoism, plus some snippets you may have read in a lightweight popular history book And I'm not really interested in continuing this discussion if you aren't willing to actually inform yourself about the topics you're bloviating about.

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Brive1987 wrote: My reference to Keitel was that the perception of the allies was that the military leadership was as a whole a complicit driver of nazism and therefore not part of a unilateral solution.

Keitel is an obvious example of toadyism and everybody wanted him dead. Rommel was also slated as Nazi fan-boy. He had led Hitler's body guard 5 years previous and had since been the nazi centrefold. Even his private facing feelings in 1944 were complex - "Rommel denied involvement in the plot, declared his love for Hitler and that he would gladly serve his "Fatherland" again." Allied endorsed solution? Yeah, no.

It was General Blomberg who sold the army to Hitler in 1934 with the oath. The Nazi generals displayed their lack of resolve to the British in 1938 with their limp-dick Czech inspired plot. Generals Halder and Brauchitsch nixed opposition in 1939. All but the most conservative of the conservative elites jumped on-board with the spearing of the 1919 ghosts during 1940-1941. Even in 1944 a common theme was reticence to besmirch their honour ..... but if someone else would kill Hitler, well then come have a chat (Kluge et al).

There were inspired individuals like Oster, Tresckow and Olbricht but they were too little and too late for the Allies to give them time of day. The idea that there was a credible and honourable "movement" as an alternative to u/surrender is wishful thinking.

Further the unchallenged tropes of Triumph of the Will, the public support that made the nazis the most popular party in Weimar, the acclaim for the successful wars of aggression in 1940/1, the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide all made the obvious and humiliating third party destruction of Nazism a war aim.

Given that, you can debate the how's (ie strategic bombing) - but one way or another you were going to have to ram a T34 up the Reichstag.
Thank for clearing things up. You definitely know jack shit about the German anti-Hitler resistance movement.

* Yes, the Western Allies thought the entire German military leadership was complicit in "Prussian Aggression". They were stupidly wrong about that;

* No, Rommel was fully on-board by early '43. And don't fucking quote if you aren't gonna cite your source;

* Blomberg was a dilettante and Hitler had Kompromat (a.k.a., a pee-pee tape) on him. He was ousted in '38, so I'm not sure why you're even bringing him up;

* Halder was part of a fully-developed plot among a most of the General Staff to depose Hitler in 1938 the instant he issued orders to invade Czecho-Slovakia. You wusses put the kabosh on that in Munich. I recommend Terry Parssinen's The Oster Conspiracy of 1938;

* Plotting to depose Hitler and overthrow the Nazis never ceased. The attempts in March, 1943 were not "too little too late", and in any case, the Allies knew nothing about them specifically. Had they succeeded, of course, that naif, Roosevelt, and that drunkard, Churchill, would've continued the war until they were deposed;

* Reluctance to throw in with the conspiracy was primarily due to the insane Unconditional Surrender declaration. Why weaken Germany with civil war during a world war, when your opponents would still seek to annihilate you no matter what?

* Calling the NSDAP "the most popular party in Weimar Germany" is prima facie true for one election, but exceedingly disingenuous. The SPD was the most popular party throughout the Weimar era, and the Nazi's high water mark was 32% of the vote;

* "... the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide" - by whom? The senior military command? For the most part, they were abhorred by it, and many were spurred to act against Hitler because of it. Plus, they'd only seen the sporadic round-ups and shootings behind the front, and were not aware of the full extent of the death camp machine.

You're just regurgitating a big glob of post-war rationalization and British jingoism, plus some snippets you may have read in a lightweight popular history book And I'm not really interested in continuing this discussion if you aren't willing to actually inform yourself about the topics you're bloviating about.

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this WWII stuff is hot.
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trigger warning to oversensitive dicktators, and everyone else for that matter. Happy Eyed. Now for another beer and a bacon taco. :P
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piginthecity wrote:Here's some shocking news everybody:

The hobby of quilting has been politicised and destroyed by some nasty right-wing conservatives who are hounding out the poor liberal hobbyists: According to this totally unbiased article by the BBC

Who would have seen this coming ?
The world of quilting is fucked and has been for a long time. The problem is mostly the mormon twats & fundamentalist christian douchebags who do nothing but quilt and bitch, combined with the fundementalist progressives hippy lesbian commune types (ie Caine). If you have any american women in the group it's time to leave. They not only make the most fucked up looking quilts - it's either something batik-brown-shitstain-background with the american flag, or rainbows and LGBT slogans, they are usually as thick as pigshit. British & Aussie quilt sites are much better; they are usually quite intelligent, make nice stuff and never mention trump or islamophobia.

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HunnyBunny wrote:
piginthecity wrote:Here's some shocking news everybody:

The hobby of quilting has been politicised and destroyed by some nasty right-wing conservatives who are hounding out the poor liberal hobbyists: According to this totally unbiased article by the BBC

Who would have seen this coming ?
The world of quilting is fucked and has been for a long time. The problem is mostly the mormon twats & fundamentalist christian douchebags who do nothing but quilt and bitch, combined with the fundementalist progressives hippy lesbian commune types (ie Caine). If you have any american women in the group it's time to leave. They not only make the most fucked up looking quilts - it's either something batik-brown-shitstain-background with the american flag, or rainbows and LGBT slogans, they are usually as thick as pigshit. British & Aussie quilt sites are much better; they are usually quite intelligent, make nice stuff and never mention trump or islamophobia.
But if quiltmaking is just about quiltmaking and not about social justice, what is the point of quiltmaking? Dictionary quiltmaking is fascism [\sjw]

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MacGruberKnows wrote:
But if quiltmaking is just about quiltmaking and not about social justice, what is the point of quiltmaking? Dictionary quiltmaking is fascism [\sjw]
Quilts have no religion or politics, except when they are political or racist or islamophobic, then they aren't quilts anymore. #PrayForQuilts

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Quick funny update on the libel case against Steven Novella from Marco Randazza himself.

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HunnyBunny wrote:
piginthecity wrote:Here's some shocking news everybody:

The hobby of quilting has been politicised and destroyed by some nasty right-wing conservatives who are hounding out the poor liberal hobbyists: According to this totally unbiased article by the BBC

Who would have seen this coming ?
The world of quilting is fucked and has been for a long time. The problem is mostly the mormon twats & fundamentalist christian douchebags who do nothing but quilt and bitch, combined with the fundementalist progressives hippy lesbian commune types (ie Caine). If you have any american women in the group it's time to leave. They not only make the most fucked up looking quilts - it's either something batik-brown-shitstain-background with the american flag, or rainbows and LGBT slogans, they are usually as thick as pigshit. British & Aussie quilt sites are much better; they are usually quite intelligent, make nice stuff and never mention trump or islamophobia.
One of my co-workers did a Legend of Zelda quilt that was quite nice. I think she sells stuff on Etsy though.

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pro-boxing-fan wrote:Quick funny update on the libel case against Steven Novella from Marco Randazza himself.
Can I get a refresher on this? I'm not fan of Novella but he's a decent skeptic for the most part, and I don't know who Marco is, so should I be happy or angry about this?

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HunnyBunny wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:
But if quiltmaking is just about quiltmaking and not about social justice, what is the point of quiltmaking? Dictionary quiltmaking is fascism [\sjw]
Quilts have no religion or politics, except when they are political or racist or islamophobic, then they aren't quilts anymore. #PrayForQuilts
Ah, the 'no true quilt/quiltmaker' gambit.

You sound like you have a quilty conscience.

Tell me, are these quilts?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... jlHXAyIu2Q


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FNlkk4xXOU8/U ... Klette.jpg

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And if they aren't, what dictionary are you using?

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Goddamn it, stop laying pipes, you Hitlers! I have reason to believe you can summon the ghosts of members flounced. Or even unholy zombies.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Thank for clearing things up. You definitely know jack shit about the German anti-Hitler resistance movement.

* Yes, the Western Allies thought the entire German military leadership was complicit in "Prussian Aggression". They were stupidly wrong about that;

* No, Rommel was fully on-board by early '43. And don't fucking quote if you aren't gonna cite your source;

* Blomberg was a dilettante and Hitler had Kompromat (a.k.a., a pee-pee tape) on him. He was ousted in '38, so I'm not sure why you're even bringing him up;

* Halder was part of a fully-developed plot among a most of the General Staff to depose Hitler in 1938 the instant he issued orders to invade Czecho-Slovakia. You wusses put the kabosh on that in Munich. I recommend Terry Parssinen's The Oster Conspiracy of 1938;

* Plotting to depose Hitler and overthrow the Nazis never ceased. The attempts in March, 1943 were not "too little too late", and in any case, the Allies knew nothing about them specifically. Had they succeeded, of course, that naif, Roosevelt, and that drunkard, Churchill, would've continued the war until they were deposed;

* Reluctance to throw in with the conspiracy was primarily due to the insane Unconditional Surrender declaration. Why weaken Germany with civil war during a world war, when your opponents would still seek to annihilate you no matter what?

* Calling the NSDAP "the most popular party in Weimar Germany" is prima facie true for one election, but exceedingly disingenuous. The SPD was the most popular party throughout the Weimar era, and the Nazi's high water mark was 32% of the vote;

* "... the apparent acceptance of and direct support for genocide" - by whom? The senior military command? For the most part, they were abhorred by it, and many were spurred to act against Hitler because of it. Plus, they'd only seen the sporadic round-ups and shootings behind the front, and were not aware of the full extent of the death camp machine.

You're just regurgitating a big glob of post-war rationalization and British jingoism, plus some snippets you may have read in a lightweight popular history book And I'm not really interested in continuing this discussion if you aren't willing to actually inform yourself about the topics you're bloviating about.
Matt, I love your faux-scholarly arrogance coupled to emotional hoof stamping. Your problem here is that you don’t know what you are arguing.

Is it “that it was a reasonable proposition for the allies to jump into bed with the non-Nazi Germans at some point and it was an obvious mistake at the time to pass on that option”

Or is it that “it’s all so unfair that the dedication and honour of the non-Nazi ‘movement’ didn’t / couldn’t shine through, though the allies probably would have shat on it anyway"?

Or is it something else? ‘Cause you flip and flop.
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The only time there was meaningful (semi) organised resistance was when the Generals were scared or threatened. Consequently, it rarely amounted to a cup of piss. They were jealous of the SA in 1934 so they allowed their independent loyalty to be prostituted. They were scared in 1938 that they would lose against Czechoslovakia (the Munich Agreement sealed rather than initiated Halder’s and Brauchitsch’s weakness). They were scared going into France. They were scared after Stalingrad that they would lose the war – quite rightly.

They were just never scared enough to find common ground and joint resolution. To act on principle. Instead the ‘movement’ formed pockets, elevated brave individuals, puffs of smoke. Punctuated inertia.

But consider from the Allied perspective:

There had been a close outward facing alliance / détente between the Army and Hitler dating back at least to the 1934 oath. The ‘resistance’ had shown itself in 1938 to be incompetent, unworthy of serious attention. Goerdeler didn’t communicate a plan - just jazz hands of disquiet.

The leaders of the ‘resistance’ were themselves implicated in the war crime of waging aggressive war – later enshrined at Nuremberg “To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole”.

Rommel is often presented as a best-case member of the German alt-right. Yet there is a whole discipline that disputes his White Knight reputation. All of which is irrelevant in any case because from the 1944 Allied perspective he presented as a dickhead Nazi to be tried and probably jailed.

Moreover the German electorate had (within the context of Weimar elections) provided the Nazis with the closest thing you could get (in the 1930s environment) to a mandate. Apart from snotty uni students and a bunch of picketing frauleins there wasn’t any outward indication this support had waned during the glory years (or beyond really).

And the broader society was implicated in Genocide. Whether it be indifference to ‘just outside the gate’ Dachau-esque camps, or the involvement of industry in slave labour / camp creation or the participation of the Wehrmacht in the Russian cleansing operations in Russia-Balkans or the acquiescence of the High Command to the Commissar Order or the logistical integrations between the Army and SS or …. Your claim that real Germans only knew of scattered round ups is a historical and moral lapse.

But even if this wasn’t the case there was no practical basis for a negotiated peace. Ethnic redistributions, massive border realignment, war crime trials and that little matter of the Russians being unlikely to stop their advance had to be resolved. Or is it your POV that the Allies should have joined with the Germans to drive the Bolsheviks back to the steppe?

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