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John D wrote:Seriously Jan. Will you ever be worth a million dollars? I expect when I retire I will be worth about 2 million. What is your plan? Will you suck off the tit of your state and make others pay for you with their taxes? I really want to know.
So apparently I missed some stuff.

Dangerous to go in cold, I know, but it is a great relief to know that at least one Pitter made plans.for a comfortable retirement with plenty left over to spend on anger management classes, etiquette guides and Atlas Struggled collectibles.

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As much as like the people of the 'pyt - I am wary of wishing them anything (not that it would do much good in any case).

Has anyone hear read 'Beggar's Horses' by P C Wren?

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hear?

here...

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Jan Steen wrote:
John D wrote:Seriously Jan. Will you ever be worth a million dollars? I expect when I retire I will be worth about 2 million. What is your plan? Will you suck off the tit of your state and make others pay for you with their taxes? I really want to know.
Since it appears to be bragging time I'll have you know that I have a PhD. But you may still call me Jan. No need for that Dr. Steen business. I'm not like Dr. Richard 'Sticky Dicky' Carrier PhD, you know.
Well well well, looks like we have a Doctor Eénsteen.

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Reminds anyone of someone in particular?

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CommanderTuvok wrote: What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep. Ain't it beautiful.

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CommanderTuvok wrote: What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
She's low key? I think she's subtly calling SJWs mewling quims.

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What is Laci doing to earn a living now?

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Jan Steen wrote:
John D wrote:Seriously Jan. Will you ever be worth a million dollars? I expect when I retire I will be worth about 2 million. What is your plan? Will you suck off the tit of your state and make others pay for you with their taxes? I really want to know.
Since it appears to be bragging time I'll have you know that I have a PhD. But you may still call me Jan. No need for that Dr. Steen business. I'm not like Dr. Richard 'Sticky Dicky' Carrier PhD, you know.
I didn't want to say anything but I got a solid HDs for my last 2 history papers ......

I know it's relative small fries but you know. It's all I've got.

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You see I.... I can't even humble brag properly. Woe.

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Brive1987 wrote:I know it's relative small fries but you know. It's all I've got.
That's all right just as long as you don't pre-boil them.

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Heads up - there's a meeting of some interest coming up in London in September.

Make your plans now...

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MarcusAu wrote:Stamford Hill, London - hmm well something might kick off there.

My first thought was of the large Hassidic Jewish community there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford_ ... _community

Here's hoping things don't get too ugly.
Many years ago a friend and I used to go and watch Spurs and drove through that area quite often, I haven't been there for over 25 years but Stamford Hill, Homerton, Dalston, Stoke Newington and South Tottenham did have very large Jewish communities, there has been a mix of races for years in that part of London that have on the whole rubbed along with each other with no major problems. However, thanks to the influx of mass migration like many parts of London there's been a steady increase in Muslims moving into the area. Many from the middle east and Africa.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Yeah, this is the main reason why I dislike him so much. I'm sick and tired of hearing naive utopians drone on about how the western civilization is the great Satan, and if only their ridiculous ideology were in charge everything would be perfect and they would eliminate hunger and violence. Jordan Peterson talks a lot about this, and it's part of the reason I like the guy. His view is that you shouldn't compare western civilization to an unrealized ideal, you should compare it to everything else that has ever existed. The soviet union and maoist china were founded by utopians. How many more societies do these shit heads need to ruin before they'll be willing to recognize the pattern?
I tend to agree. No society is ever, has ever been, or will ever be perfect, and every society has flaws, needs improvements and maintenance. For example IMHO the US right now need (among other things) more limits to the power of lobbies and corporations, tax reforms, healthcare reforms, better legal representation for poor people, immigration reforms, the end of the War on Drugs, a change to the paradigm of militarization of the police and the privatization of prisons. They also need to change the nature of their alliance with GCC countries.

At the same time you need to preserve separation of powers, freedom of speech and other liberal-democratic rights from the assaults from both extreme leftists and extreme right-wing people.

There's plenty of improvements and maintenance to be done, and they're not easy jobs, nor simple ones. However to throw away the liberal-democratic system in the hope of an utopian dream of anarco-communism (or of anarco-capitalism or of a "white ethno-state" for that matter) is absurd.

The US are flawed, just like every other nation, and even the liberal-democratic system can be gamed and has its limits, and some of the changes it needs in the long run (like changes to the electoral laws) would be major. But the liberal-democratic system, flawed as it is, still beats dictatorships (both left-wing or right-wing ones) or theocracies by a long stretch. Anyone who disagrees can enjoy living in North Korea or Saudi Arabia. 8-)
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As Murray points out here, the transfer of power from Britain was peaceful and almost seamless. The UK reaiised that their time at the top was over and tacitly handed over the reigns. Very unusual in the history of empires. It helped that the US shared a lot of values with Britain. Also unusual is that the US, although I'm sure there is some nuance to be explored, does not go to war with the intention of holding territory.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
John D wrote:
John D wrote:Seriously Jan. Will you ever be worth a million dollars? I expect when I retire I will be worth about 2 million. What is your plan? Will you suck off the tit of your state and make others pay for you with their taxes? I really want to know.
Hehe... that does not include the equity in my house. Hell... I need somewhere to live. No fire sale for me.
So in about 6 months when your long suffering wife finally wakes up and divorces you, no problem, I hear there are lots of good deals on houses in your area. It shouldn't take too much of a chunk out of your millionaire status.
My wife will never leave. I cook, clean, do the house work, do all the chores, complete the house projects, and work full time. She has heart disease and fibromyalgia and it is all she can do to work part time. I figure I will simply out live her. Her sister just had a second stroke and is back in the hospital.

My long term plan is to find another wife after she departs this earth. My next wife will have to like to cook... no question.... I've been doing almost all the cooking for decades. I will find a liberal christian lady with a big butt. We will go camping and putts in the garden.

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Shatterface wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
She's low key? I think she's subtly calling SJWs mewling quims.

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What is it with the obsession with the generation of youtube nobodies, regurgitating somebody elses shit in punchy diatribe packages for fame and fortune. Talentless twats. The celebration of Lacy waking up to reality is laughable. Lacy hasn't woke up, she has realized the market has shifted. lacy never had an original idea come out of her perky mouth, yet she is pointed to as some intellect worth considering.

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Rubin Report with Sargon:-

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Za-zen wrote:
What is it with the obsession with the generation of youtube nobodies, regurgitating somebody elses shit in punchy diatribe packages for fame and fortune. Talentless twats. The celebration of Lacy waking up to reality is laughable. Lacy hasn't woke up, she has realized the market has shifted. lacy never had an original idea come out of her perky mouth, yet she is pointed to as some intellect worth considering.
If you are looking to be a contrarian then you best say something I don't agree with.

Maybe we can chalk it up to gynocentry in this case.

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Thinking again about the classical liberal position. I think the thing that's different about it, is that it's an experimental mode of politics rather than a prescriptive form of politics.

Everyone and their mother has some notion about what the Good Life would be for everybody. The problem is finding out what the Good Life is, nobody knows it in advance (or we have bits of it here and there, but there are large unexplored areas, many difficulties, plus we're always on shifting ground because of technological progress anyway).

Given that, then the best over-arching political stance is to hold the conditions open for the search for the Good Life.

That's really why the liberal position sticks to negative rights, it's not because they're the whole of the Law, it's because the requisite information to effect pockets of experimental Good Life-ing, in which positive rights and obligations can be tested and tried, is localized and dispersed.

That's the experimental idea of the United States, the states are "laboratories". It should be the same with liberalism on the global scale, it's always about holding open the space so that truth can be discovered, so that good policies can be discovered (ones that actually work and function), good forms of political organization, etc.

Contrast this with the One World Government idea. It's tempting, but it suffers from a) being the imposition of one Big Idea that could possibly be wrong, so it's costly for the entire world if it turns out to be wrong, and b) there are the usual problems of incentive, dispersed knowledge and economic calculation that bedevil any effort to over-centralize things.

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Gad Saad lays into the odious Piers Morgan :clap:

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Haha... just so youall know.... you are cracking me up (as usual). Even the good Dr. Steen has been very entertaining. Youall are great.

On a side note.... my sister-in-law (not the one who just had two strokes) was complaining to me that lots of people said she was mean.

I said "Well, you are mean."

She said "I'm not mean!".

To which my reply was "How do you know you are not mean? If everyone calls you mean you are probably mean. You should just own your shit. If you are mean you are mean. It is not the worst thing in the world to be mean. There are lots of other virtues such as honesty, hard work, honor. Being nice is underrated. I'm mean. I know this cause that what everyone tells me."

and she finally said.... "Well.... I'm not mean."

Haha.

I really think that if my sister-in-law and I were in the Stazi we would rise to a very high rank. Good thing I don't have much power. A mere million dollars is just enough to keep me out of trouble. As it is I get along beautifully with my family, my dog, and neighbors, etc.

My friends and I were discussing the fact that a large portion of soldiers (in a war like WWII) never fire their weapon. Something like 20% of soldiers do all the shooting... and killing. A bunch of my fiends said they could not shoot anyone... even in a war. I said that I would shoot the enemy with glee, especially if they were not able to shoot back (after all... I'm no hero). Pretty strange all that. Good thing I have never actually seriously hurt anyone.

I think it is that fucking low agreeability score that does this to me.... in combination with a low neurosis.
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To put the comments on Piers Morgan in context - here is the interview Morgan did with Tommy Robinson - that Gad is specifically commenting on:

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gurugeorge wrote:Thinking again about the classical liberal position. I think the thing that's different about it, is that it's an experimental mode of politics rather than a prescriptive form of politics.

Everyone and their mother has some notion about what the Good Life would be for everybody. The problem is finding out what the Good Life is, nobody knows it in advance (or we have bits of it here and there, but there are large unexplored areas, many difficulties, plus we're always on shifting ground because of technological progress anyway).

Given that, then the best over-arching political stance is to hold the conditions open for the search for the Good Life.

That's really why the liberal position sticks to negative rights, it's not because they're the whole of the Law, it's because the requisite information to effect pockets of experimental Good Life-ing, in which positive rights and obligations can be tested and tried, is localized and dispersed.

That's the experimental idea of the United States, the states are "laboratories". It should be the same with liberalism on the global scale, it's always about holding open the space so that truth can be discovered, so that good policies can be discovered (ones that actually work and function), good forms of political organization, etc.

Contrast this with the One World Government idea. It's tempting, but it suffers from a) being the imposition of one Big Idea that could possibly be wrong, so it's costly for the entire world if it turns out to be wrong, and b) there are the usual problems of incentive, dispersed knowledge and economic calculation that bedevil any effort to over-centralize things.
The problem with "one world government" is that it will certainly become oppressive. Competition is good.... even between countries, as long as it doesn't devolve into fisticuffs. I am sure the "one world government" would outlaw Belgian fries.... and... they would take a close look at the Dutch ones as well.

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MarcusAu wrote:To put the comments on Piers Morgan in context - here is the interview Morgan did with Tommy Robinson - that Gad is specifically commenting on:

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Morgan is a platitude spewing moron. You could see cogs fall out of his brain when Robinson challenged him on his illogical privileging of religious ideology. Robinson should have smelt the blood in the water on that one, and tore morgan's irrational position apart. Morgan has either not thought very hard on the subject, or isn't very bright. It's probably a combination of both.

The attack on the people coming out of the mosque in London has unleashed the weird forces in the UK again, howling about Islamophobia, and how the government has to protect muslims by shutting people down who speak out about their fucked up ideology. The threat isn't from those who butchered charlie hebdo, the threat is charlie hebdo! We must protect the sacred ideology! It's sacred, because it says it is.

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John D wrote:The problem with "one world government" is that it will certainly become oppressive. Competition is good.... even between countries, as long as it doesn't devolve into fisticuffs. I am sure the "one world government" would outlaw Belgians.... and... they would take a close look at the Dutch as well.
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feathers wrote:
John D wrote:The problem with "one world government" is that it will certainly become oppressive. Competition is good.... even between countries, as long as it doesn't devolve into fisticuffs. I am sure the "one world government" would outlaw Belgians.... and... they would take a close look at the Dutch as well.
Fixed.
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I love twitter .. :lol:

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Kirbmarc wrote: Who is Eric Holder? What are his positions on US internal and foreign policies?
Long time mob attorney for the Democrat Crime Syndicate. Became obama's attorney general and immediately made everything about race. When defending obama's "kill list" assassinations of US citizens, declared that the right to "Due Process" enshrined in the Constitution did not entail "legal process". Fucked up "Fast & Furious" as already described and let all his subordinates take the blame. Completely bereft of a single strand of human decency. A democratic, mocha latte version of Roy Cohn.

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John D wrote: I think it is that fucking low agreeability score that does this to me.... in combination with a low neurosis.
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I scored very high on agreeability and openness and conscientiousness on that test. Yet everyone on Patheos hates me. :think:

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gurugeorge wrote: Everyone and their mother has some notion about what the Good Life would be for everybody. The problem is finding out what the Good Life is, nobody knows it in advance (or we have bits of it here and there, but there are large unexplored areas, many difficulties, plus we're always on shifting ground because of technological progress anyway).
Nah, I think John pretty much nailed it:
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John D wrote: My friends and I were discussing the fact that a large portion of soldiers (in a war like WWII) never fire their weapon. Something like 20% of soldiers do all the shooting... and killing. A bunch of my fiends said they could not shoot anyone... even in a war. I said that I would shoot the enemy with glee, especially if they were not able to shoot back (after all... I'm no hero). Pretty strange all that. Good thing I have never actually seriously hurt anyone.
If you're talking about the data collected by S.L.A. Marshall (as opposed to the point that many soldiers are in support roles), it's likely that he was full of shit. Scroll down to the controversy section for links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.L.A._Marshall

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jet_lagg wrote:
John D wrote: My friends and I were discussing the fact that a large portion of soldiers (in a war like WWII) never fire their weapon. Something like 20% of soldiers do all the shooting... and killing. A bunch of my fiends said they could not shoot anyone... even in a war. I said that I would shoot the enemy with glee, especially if they were not able to shoot back (after all... I'm no hero). Pretty strange all that. Good thing I have never actually seriously hurt anyone.
If you're talking about the data collected by S.L.A. Marshall (as opposed to the point that many soldiers are in support roles), it's likely that he was full of shit. Scroll down to the controversy section for links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.L.A._Marshall
Wow. Interesting stuff. Thanks. Has this type of thing been studied since this Marshall report?

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I first heard of Marshall when reading On Killing back in the day. The thesis of the book rests in large part on Marshall's work, which critics were quick to point out was flawed. I vaguely remember the author, Dave Grossman, saying that further research had backed up Marshall's original findings, but I couldn't cite anything for you.

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Za-zen wrote:
Morgan is a platitude spewing moron. You could see cogs fall out of his brain when Robinson challenged him on his illogical privileging of religious ideology. Robinson should have smelt the blood in the water on that one, and tore morgan's irrational position apart. Morgan has either not thought very hard on the subject, or isn't very bright. It's probably a combination of both.

The attack on the people coming out of the mosque in London has unleashed the weird forces in the UK again, howling about Islamophobia, and how the government has to protect muslims by shutting people down who speak out about their fucked up ideology. The threat isn't from those who butchered charlie hebdo, the threat is charlie hebdo! We must protect the sacred ideology! It's sacred, because it says it is.

Robinson certainly missed a trick in not asking Morgan by what authority he can demand that anyone to do anything. He built his entire career on being offensive but now thinks it beyond the pale that others could have the same freedom.

But on the whole Piers made a stronger case for Tommy's argument that he could ever do on his own.

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Za-zen wrote: What is it with the obsession with the generation of youtube nobodies, regurgitating somebody elses shit in punchy diatribe packages for fame and fortune. Talentless twats. The celebration of Lacy waking up to reality is laughable. Lacy hasn't woke up, she has realized the market has shifted. lacy never had an original idea come out of her perky mouth, yet she is pointed to as some intellect worth considering.
Well, I'll give my answer to that.

I think SJW style identity politics is a big harm to society. As the vernacular goes, I think it's extremely regressive and serves to build and maintain sex/racial stereotypes and divisions in our society. I think the biggest part of the problem with it, is the perceived monopoly it has over the left and the center left. That's the thing that makes it very hard to challenge.

I think Laci's story, even if it is just a story (but as someone who went through a similar change, I'm apt to believe her), is an important one, as again, it's challenging the monopoly of SJW style identity politics among non-Traditionalists. And to me that's a good thing. A very good thing. The more we can have of this the better.

It's like PZ and Co's constant refrain that everybody that disagrees with them is an ultra-traditionalist. That's what's being undermined here, and quite frankly I welcome it 100%.

(Back when I was firmly in the Cult, I had the belief as well that it was basically just Good Guys and Bad Guys so I wanted to be on the side of the Good Guys, right?)

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Za-zen wrote:
Shatterface wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote: What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
She's low key? I think she's subtly calling SJWs mewling quims.

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What is it with the obsession with the generation of youtube nobodies, regurgitating somebody elses shit in punchy diatribe packages for fame and fortune. Talentless twats. The celebration of Lacy waking up to reality is laughable. Lacy hasn't woke up, she has realized the market has shifted. lacy never had an original idea come out of her perky mouth, yet she is pointed to as some intellect worth considering.
I don't buy that explanation. She's has not been very active on Youtube in the last year if not more (her output is on average 1 video a month), her current positions are effectively crushing any chances that she could get back on MTV with a new show and she stated her plans is to finished her degree in sexology and start a practice.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Elyse, of course, famously accused Shermer of raping her ear.
That Shermer is a sneaky guy. I'll bet she never even heard him coming.

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(Note sure if many people will get this....)
Kirbmarc wrote:Who is Eric Holder? What are his positions on US internal and foreign policies?
Eric Holder's foreign policy is absolutely bananas.

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Guest_440911e7 wrote:
There are worse things to find behind a bookcase, starting with Matthew McConaughey.

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The not so foxy folklorist is on a polyamory kick of late. (Well, it is Patheos Atheist Channel, after all.)

Whines about 'stigma' and cites some shit social science study with selection bias showing that poly's are extremely happy and well-adjusted (so say the poly's who answered the survey)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/foxyfolklo ... nd-stigma/

This is the upcoming Social Justice Crusade which Plussers will be pushing onto A/S -- polyamory liberation. It will surely help in the effort to make atheists seem like your everyday normal folks next door.

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He's been doing this a lot lately. When he said he was quitting skepticism, I didn't think he meant he would take up being a credulous idiot.

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png

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Do the polyamorists get more than one letter in the QUILTBAG or are they forced to stick to a single one only?

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Really? wrote:Colossal pussy Dan Arel is not happy that his beloved terrorist organization is being harmed by a parody account.
Isn't the point that Antifa has no central hierarchy? You know, like terrorist cells?
I like Dan Arel's tendency to use tough-sounding hyperbole in the context of fairly innocuous stuff like reporting someone on Twitter. I can't help but wonder if his attempts to sound well 'ard has come off the back of his 'punch a nazi' schtick - an attempt to cover the fact that despite all his tuff talk, there's no evidence at all that he's punched any nazis himself.

Maybe he's even got into the habit of applying it to his everyday routine:

'I'm gonna screw this lid the fuck off of this jam jar!'*

'I'm gonna dab the fuck out of this creme on my motherfucking wart!'

'Wow,' people will no doubt say. 'From the tough way he talks, he surely has punched many a nazi.'

(*The evidence that Dan has ever successfully removed the top off a jam jar himself is also scant)

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Theresa May, the British Prime Minister has just said in the House of Commons that her government will bring laws in that will stamp out extremism of all kinds, including 'Islamophobia' .. Britain has in effect just agreed to bring in a blasphemy law for Islam.

My once great country is lost. :doh:

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shoutinghorse wrote:Theresa May, the British Prime Minister has just said in the House of Commons that her government will bring laws in that will stamp out extremism of all kinds, including 'Islamophobia' .. Britain has in effect just agreed to bring in a blasphemy law for Islam.

My once great country is lost. :doh:
I'm looking forward to seeing Corbyn challenge her one this one. Oh wait, he won't.

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Ape+lust wrote:He's been doing this a lot lately. When he said he was quitting skepticism, I didn't think he meant he would take up being a credulous idiot.

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png
In a way, I believe that you're giving PZ too much credit when you call him a "credulous idiot." I would say that he's doing what many people do when they join a cult, from Scientology to SJWism: he is burning bridges, such that he has no choice but to stay in the cult. At some level, he knows that that story is bullshit. But he is doing what you have to in order to remain an approved member of his extremist group: he is sacrificing any remaining honor and self-respect, thus trapping himself deeper, by publicly making a fool of himself.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:He's been doing this a lot lately. When he said he was quitting skepticism, I didn't think he meant he would take up being a credulous idiot.

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png
In a way, I believe that you're giving PZ too much credit when you call him a "credulous idiot." I would say that he's doing what many people do when they join a cult, from Scientology to SJWism: he is burning bridges, such that he has no choice but to stay in the cult. At some level, he knows that that story is bullshit. But he is doing what you have to in order to remain an approved member of his extremist group: he is sacrificing any remaining honor and self-respect, thus trapping himself deeper, by publicly making a fool of himself.
Yeah - I call BS on this story. I could have believed it to some extent... but the part where the teachers clap is so unlikely that I doubt the whole thing. The women teachers in most schools are so anti-violence I would doubt any of them would clap... but I guess I wasn't there.

I suspect that parts of the story are true and that some flavor is added. Was the boy's nose really broken?... really.... cause yikes... that is a good hit from a girl. Did the principle really say "hear him out" or was this just a small part of the discussion? The principal probably made a number of suggestions as to way of handling the situation.

I also wonder if she was suspended, because I think she should be. Imagine if a guy grabbed another guy by the arm.... would it be acceptable for the guy to break his nose in response? No way. And... if she is going to own her violence she should take the punishment with honor and serve her suspension. Maybe the kid kept bugging her. This is not mentioned. A punch in the nose might be appropriate if the boy was constantly on her case.

High school and Middle school sucks for a lot of kids. I don't blame some of them for hitting each other once in a awhile. This kind of thing should always be punished, but sometimes the High School pecking order needs some action based solutions.

One of my wife's friends had a boy in Middle School who was constantly harassed by other boys. He was scared and shy and so he was an easy target for bullies. Boys used to steal his things. Almost every day someone would take his pencil. The mom decided to move him to another school. I told her this was a bad idea because they were letting the bullies win. The lesson for her son would be that he should run from a conflict. This is not good for men. I suggested that the next time his pencil went missing, that he should guess at who took it, walk up to him and demand his pencil, and when the pencil was not returned to beat the fuck out of the kid. It didn't really even matter if he picked the right kid. He should just pick a kid who has bullied him in the past. He should be prepared to get a black eye and a suspension.... but... when he returned to school he would no longer be bullied. The mom was horrified by my suggestion. Hmmmmm.

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The clapping is classic 4chan green text story time ending.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: I think it is that fucking low agreeability score that does this to me.... in combination with a low neurosis.
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I scored very high on agreeability and openness and conscientiousness on that test. Yet everyone on Patheos hates me. :think:
I don't hate you. But Dickhead Hement blocked me from commenting, so I can not openly express my love for you. I can, however, give your comments thumbs up

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: Who is Eric Holder? What are his positions on US internal and foreign policies?
Long time mob attorney for the Democrat Crime Syndicate. Became obama's attorney general and immediately made everything about race. When defending obama's "kill list" assassinations of US citizens, declared that the right to "Due Process" enshrined in the Constitution did not entail "legal process". Fucked up "Fast & Furious" as already described and let all his subordinates take the blame. Completely bereft of a single strand of human decency. A democratic, mocha latte version of Roy Cohn.
So, not a good choice. Got it, thanks.

Incidentally, just out of curiosity, what's your pick for the least worst Democratic candidate in 2020?

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:He's been doing this a lot lately. When he said he was quitting skepticism, I didn't think he meant he would take up being a credulous idiot.

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png
In a way, I believe that you're giving PZ too much credit when you call him a "credulous idiot." I would say that he's doing what many people do when they join a cult, from Scientology to SJWism: he is burning bridges, such that he has no choice but to stay in the cult. At some level, he knows that that story is bullshit. But he is doing what you have to in order to remain an approved member of his extremist group: he is sacrificing any remaining honor and self-respect, thus trapping himself deeper, by publicly making a fool of himself.
So, the rat is ensuring he will become a cornered rat? Well, that's great!

Attaboy, Peez! Revolutionaries don't do half measures. Time to start chucking grenades again :lol:

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Ape+lust wrote:He's been doing this a lot lately. When he said he was quitting skepticism, I didn't think he meant he would take up being a credulous idiot.

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png
And one of the female teachers cheering on the 14 year old girl was none other than Albert Einstein ???

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In today's Grauniad:
By many measures, women have leapt ahead of their male peers in higher education. Today they have higher college enrollment and graduate at higher rates, and on many campuses, women’s and gender studies programs have mushroomed on campuses nationwide. But women’s educational advancement hasn’t come cheap.

The hidden cost of academic gender parity, according to a new analysis by the American Association of University Women, is a disproportionate student debt burden; women are borrowing more to “get ahead” on the career ladder, only to find their futures constrained by the shackles of debt.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ing-crisis

The author is quite rightly being taken to task in the comments, for overlooking the glaring fact that getting (expensive) degrees in non-STEM fields (esp. women's studies) might be a path to a high debt load.

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Mom, I've just been suspended for breaking a little boy's nose.

But what really happened was this...

http://imgur.com/PFMENAn.png

So really I'm the victim and the hero!

So can I still get my navel pierced?

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dogen wrote:In today's Grauniad:
By many measures, women have leapt ahead of their male peers in higher education. Today they have higher college enrollment and graduate at higher rates, and on many campuses, women’s and gender studies programs have mushroomed on campuses nationwide. But women’s educational advancement hasn’t come cheap.

The hidden cost of academic gender parity, according to a new analysis by the American Association of University Women, is a disproportionate student debt burden; women are borrowing more to “get ahead” on the career ladder, only to find their futures constrained by the shackles of debt.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ing-crisis

The author is quite rightly being taken to task in the comments, for overlooking the glaring fact that getting (expensive) degrees in non-STEM fields (esp. women's studies) might be a path to a high debt load.
You don't need to pay back the loan unless you are earning more than a gender studies degree will earn you. It's a paper debt only.

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Shatterface wrote:
dogen wrote:In today's Grauniad:
By many measures, women have leapt ahead of their male peers in higher education. Today they have higher college enrollment and graduate at higher rates, and on many campuses, women’s and gender studies programs have mushroomed on campuses nationwide. But women’s educational advancement hasn’t come cheap.

The hidden cost of academic gender parity, according to a new analysis by the American Association of University Women, is a disproportionate student debt burden; women are borrowing more to “get ahead” on the career ladder, only to find their futures constrained by the shackles of debt.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ing-crisis

The author is quite rightly being taken to task in the comments, for overlooking the glaring fact that getting (expensive) degrees in non-STEM fields (esp. women's studies) might be a path to a high debt load.
You don't need to pay back the loan unless you are earning more than a gender studies degree will earn you. It's a paper debt only.
In the UK, maybe, but the article is about the USA.

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Za-zen wrote:What is it with the obsession with the generation of youtube nobodies, regurgitating somebody elses shit in punchy diatribe packages for fame and fortune. Talentless twats. The celebration of Lacy waking up to reality is laughable. Lacy hasn't woke up, she has realized the market has shifted. lacy never had an original idea come out of her perky mouth, yet she is pointed to as some intellect worth considering.
I felt much the same a few weeks back. Still do mostly, as I don't find her interesting to listen to at all, but I'm gonna end up coming a bit more over to her side if SJWs keep going after her or end up doing serious damage. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall Green being a prominent witch hunter, so it doesn't feel so much like karma as much as trying to get away from the Scientologist types who have no compunctions against trying to ruin you. That makes me the tiniest bit sympathetic.

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Are there any fans of dupstep here?

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Sunder wrote: I felt much the same a few weeks back. Still do mostly, as I don't find her interesting to listen to at all, but I'm gonna end up coming a bit more over to her side if SJWs keep going after her or end up doing serious damage. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall Green being a prominent witch hunter, so it doesn't feel so much like karma as much as trying to get away from the Scientologist types who have no compunctions against trying to ruin you. That makes me the tiniest bit sympathetic.
Well yes, people should be free to choose to be free to choose...

But it's not really something I need to pick a side over.

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The 'Day of Rage' protest was going really well .. Right up til the Ice Cream Van turned up.

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