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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Damwn! Watson (Emma) does absolutely nothing for me. I find her, to be frank, unattractive. Personal tastes and all that.

And in that pic she looks like Joachim Phoenix with boobs. Not something I'd want to wank to.
Agreed. Would not bang.

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Aneris wrote:The other thing I still need to understand better is the difference between A# and Bb, or better, the theoretical framework underneath it and why it matters. I know that they are identical on temperament instruments, like the piano. I also suspect that it also doesn't matter on instruments with frets, which act like keys and divide the scale into discrete units. Unless! You take manual tuning into account, which can be done on guitars, but not pianos. Though the trouble is, I never heard of any guitarist doing such a tuning trick to make a difference and I don't know I could hear a difference even if there was one.

Though even without knowing what scale I play, once I settled into one, I hear when it is "wrong", which I suspect works for most people. That's another fascinating spook: even odd scales like in the "gypsy scale" as played by Django Reinhardt, I suspect everyone somehow intuits what fits, and what doesn't. How do humans do that? Nobody ever sat through a seminar.

As far as I know, guitars, bass, even recorders, and any instrument commonly used are temperament making whatever difference between A#/Bb exist disappear. Though it's somehow important in notation. That means, for laypeople like me, we take temperament tuning for granted, which also means that transposing a tune is a matter of aesthetic choice (and the range of the vocals), but doesn't change the tune- -- exept that this naive notion is apparently wrong. While the steps on the keys remain intact when transposing, the intervals in hertz do not remain the same, making for some difference. This is all seemingly very impotant in orchestras, though I don't quite understand why. Is it just tradition, or do orchestras go through this hassle because there are 5 people worldwide with a perfect ear who would hear (and freak out) when the tuning differs by .16 hz in three notes across the movement? That's still a mystery to me, and in the way of understanding better what's going on.
For the purpose of Jazz reharmonisation, A# and Bb are effectively the same. For traditional just tuning systems (or any tuning system which uses simple harmonic ratios) there is a functional difference between sharpening a note and flattening one.

But since you seem to be interested in modern reharmonisation, accidentals are still delineated to retain proper enharmonic spelling/proper scale degrees for each note name. It makes things less confusing in the long run.

Most reharmonisation techniques would be impossibly unwieldy without equal temperament. Your example of Am and Fm has the effect that is does because it utilises constant structure in equal temperament - maj 3rds divide an octave by 3 evenly.

More importantly each note retains the same ratiometric relationship to one another within the chord. Playing familiar progressions in other tuning systems leads to some hilarious results. (Or interesting!)

I don't check the pit too much now, but Ill try answer some of the posts. I may have repeated things that others have said but I had to cull the quote nest that was happening. BTW I am a professional musician and composer.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: Watson is a retarded self obsessed limousine liberal, stop trying to give anything she says value. Stupid cunt says stupid cunt stuff, end of.
Would somebody please tell me who the hell this Emma Watson is?
Emma Watson is the poor, oppressed young woman who played Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter movies, films that have grossed billions of dollars.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1FuZDdkXGHE/V ... llery2.jpg

Was she the star of the movie? No. A MAN was. Why? Because patriarchy. No man will make a woman the star of a story.

Time passed and she is now an adult because that's how time and human development work.

She went to Brown and learned that she is oppressed after years of taking classes in Bullshit Studies.

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The UN was looking for an oppressed woman to run the He For She campaign, which is all about gender equality, not men doing things for women. This is obvious from its name. Emma gave a speech at the UN in which she expressed amazement that feminism is seen as synonymous with man hating, so it's time to step up and do the bidding of women, men.

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She is currently in movies I have no interest in seeing.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: Watson is a retarded self obsessed limousine liberal, stop trying to give anything she says value. Stupid cunt says stupid cunt stuff, end of.
Would somebody please tell me who the hell this Emma Watson is?
She loves Trump and wants everybody to grab her by the pussy, the whore and wanton slut. Hope that helps.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: Watson is a retarded self obsessed limousine liberal, stop trying to give anything she says value. Stupid cunt says stupid cunt stuff, end of.
Would somebody please tell me who the hell this Emma Watson is?
She's the woman in this image:
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DaveDodo007 wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: Watson is a retarded self obsessed limousine liberal, stop trying to give anything she says value. Stupid cunt says stupid cunt stuff, end of.
Would somebody please tell me who the hell this Emma Watson is?
She loves Trump and wants everybody to grab her by the pussy, the whore and wanton slut. Hope that helps.
Like Emma 'Matress Girl' Sulkowicz, Emma Watson is named-after Emma Goldman because rich wanker hippie parents thought it was cheeky to reference the commie feminist with the slogans on the organic fair-trade unbleached hemp shopping bags.

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Suet Cardigan wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote: Watson is a retarded self obsessed limousine liberal, stop trying to give anything she says value. Stupid cunt says stupid cunt stuff, end of.
Would somebody please tell me who the hell this Emma Watson is?
She's the woman in this image:
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That image is too generous...

What about this one?

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Suet Cardigan wrote:
She's the woman in this image:
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Yeah, that line was a howler. As if this mild ribbing is some kind of oppression.

The worst part for me was her whine about "somehow feminism has become synonymous with man-hating" [insert wounded, incredulous intonation with italics]. Yeah, Emma, how do you think that happened? It blew my mind how she could deliver that one with a straight face. It's either blatant dishonesty or some kind of symptom of having never spoken with another feminist in one's life.

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Old_ones wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:
She's the woman in this image:
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Yeah, that line was a howler. As if this mild ribbing is some kind of oppression.

The worst part for me was her whine about "somehow feminism has become synonymous with man-hating" [insert wounded, incredulous intonation with italics]. Yeah, Emma, how do you think that happened? It blew my mind how she could deliver that one with a straight face. It's either blatant dishonesty or some kind of symptom of having never spoken with another feminist in one's life.
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You fucking misogynist. Why don't you just take ten seconds out of your life to google 'feminism definition' and you'll see that FEMINISM IS JUST ABOUT EQUALITY. Now shut the fuck up and get ready to take care of the single kid we had at the age of 38 on Wednesday. It's WOMEN'S DAY. And I'm going to skip work and sleep in, so you'll need to take a day off work so you can take care of our child and you can't bring the kid to the day care place because THAT PLACE IS 99% WOMEN.

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Bryant Park is undergoing seasonal make-over from this
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I'm working as a stagehand this week, taking down the lighting & sound gear & tall trusses, as the ice rink melts.

I dont get out much, when Im not working. So it's novel to me to have co-workers who prattle against Trump all day. Their zingers dont seem to make sense. One woman said, "Did he NOT kill anyone today?!", as if he's killing people on a daily basis. They make weird predictions about impeachment & assassination... utterly unfazed by how all their Trump predictions turned-out, over the last year-plus. "Their plan is for Pence to take-over. That's why he acts presidential. " I say weird shit back... I would rather be the funny weirdo than the Trump Guy. Today I agreed that Pence would be worse: "After all those good-looking gay guys get electrocuted into being straight, it's going to be much harder for regular guys to get women."

A couple days ago, my boss said he didnt care if Milo isnt a pedophile, or Sessions isnt in cahoots with the Russians.... they're bad, so if they go-down for false reasons, Great!

Tonight my neighbor said something similar: if Obama & the FBI spied on Trump to keep him from winning the election-- "Considering how things have turned out, it just shows that would-have been the right thing to do." I said a lot of racist cops who frame or murder blacks-- are killing ones who were actually quite terrible people, too. Neighbor got really mad at the comparison.

He also said that there would be nothing wrong with Obama using FBI wiretap to spy on Trump to win the election, as long as a judge approved the warrant... even if the judge was a Democrat who approved the warrant to help Obama throw the election. "As long as it's not technically illegal, it's not wrong." I didnt think to ask if that applies to the Muslim Ban & everything-else Trump has done in office.

Fucking normies scare the shit out of me.

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The secret to the universe is revealed by a flower:

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Suet Cardigan wrote:She's the woman in this image:
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Bossy = Demanding unearned influence & respect, as opposed from commanding from a position of earned respect for your previously displayed talents, skills & contributions.

Boys can be bossy, but that gets weeded out of them extremely fast.

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DownThunder wrote:
Aneris wrote:The other thing I still need to understand better is the difference between A# and Bb, or better, the theoretical framework underneath it and why it matters. I know that they are identical on temperament instruments, like the piano. I also suspect that it also doesn't matter on instruments with frets, which act like keys and divide the scale into discrete units. Unless! You take manual tuning into account, which can be done on guitars, but not pianos. Though the trouble is, I never heard of any guitarist doing such a tuning trick to make a difference and I don't know I could hear a difference even if there was one.
There is no difference in sound between A# and Bb, and the people who claim there is are snake-oil peddlers, just like the people who claim you shouldn't split infinitives or end sentences with prepositions. The only thing that's "wrong" with equal temperament is it compromises the mathematic relation of the harmony between first and fifth very slightly for the sake of keeping the octave correct, which is why the B string on a guitar is difficult to tune to the E string. But A and B are a tone apart in either tuning, so a semitone below B and a semitone above A are the same sound.

The frets on a guitar divide the octave into equal semitones, but even these semitones are not perfect because of the different widths of the strings. The intonation of each string on an electric guitar is adjusted at the bridge to ensure the octave is correct at the 12th fret - but the frets are not adjusted according to the width of the string, so everything but the octave will be slightly off from equal temperament. It doesn't matter, because the human ear can tolerate, expects even, a little fuzziness in the boundaries between notes. We're not computers, fortunately.

http://www.cyberfret.com/wp-content/upl ... guitar.jpg

Some guitar bridges are much more crudely intonated and can't adjust individual strings, but nobody listening will notice.

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gurugeorge wrote:So it turns out Brooklyn Jewish Cemetery wasn't vandalized by hate-crimers, just neglected.
Somebody should tweet this to Surly Amy. It turns out that Trump wasn't to blame after all.

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deLurch wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:She's the woman in this image:
Bossy Traumatising copy.jpg
Bossy = Demanding unearned influence & respect, as opposed from commanding from a position of earned respect for your previously displayed talents, skills & contributions.

Boys can be bossy, but that gets weeded out of them extremely fast.
Also if a famous male actor said that he was called bossy at age 8 nobody would care (and rightly so).

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Old_ones wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:
She's the woman in this image:
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Yeah, that line was a howler. As if this mild ribbing is some kind of oppression.

The worst part for me was her whine about "somehow feminism has become synonymous with man-hating" [insert wounded, incredulous intonation with italics]. Yeah, Emma, how do you think that happened? It blew my mind how she could deliver that one with a straight face. It's either blatant dishonesty or some kind of symptom of having never spoken with another feminist in one's life.
She's just another ignorant celebrity trying to look like she knows what she's talking about.

"Celebrities" in general are people who aren't very well-read or very informed or actually concerned with reality. See also: Beyoncé and her "feminist" dance, Barbara Streisand saying that Trump is to blame for her gaining weight, Martin Sheen and his video asking Great Electors not to vote for Trump, Ben Affleck calling Sam Harris and Bill Maher racist for criticizing islam, Judd Apatow praising anti-Milo riots as "the resistance", etc. etc.

Actors, singers, or people in the show business in general aren't more informed about the issues they discuss than anyone else. But they don't need to be: their fame speaks for them. They can say whatever they think at the moment and the press will lap it up.

I don't think that most people in the show business knows anything about any issue they claim to support. It's all just virtue-signalling.

Emma Watson was crept out by older men propositioning her when she was underage and upset that a lookalike made a porn vid and tried to pass it off as if it was her sex tape, someone in her entourage said it was because of Patriarchy, so she decided that feminism was the solution. She went to university and learned the usual mushy gender studies pap, likely skipping most lessons since there was no way they were going to flunk her.

In her videos she spewed half-understood, half-remembered things with a sad face. She got her UN endorsement, praise and all that jazz. Beyond that I don't think she really cares about what she's saying. It's "the Right Thing", "Justice", so everyone should love it, 'mright?

"Hey guys, do you remember that time that gross old dude sent me a dick pic? So gross. Also I was called bossy, and Harry Potter wasn't about me. So unfair! I'm suffering for all of you, sisters!"

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paddybrown wrote:There is no difference in sound between A# and Bb, and the people who claim there is are snake-oil peddlers, just like the people who claim you shouldn't split infinitives or end sentences with prepositions.
Be mindful though that the naming convention predates the popularisation of equal temperament, and so with it needs to come an understanding that sharps and flats were different, even if the standard now is that the complimentary sharps and flats describe the same pitch or frequency.
paddybrown wrote:The only thing that's "wrong" with equal temperament is it compromises the mathematic relation of the harmony between first and fifth very slightly for the sake of keeping the octave correct...
....and major 3rds. Or minor 3rds. Or 6ths for that matter. Oh and 7ths too.....

Actually the major 3rd is probably the most egregious example. Mixing non tempered instruments with tempered ones can lead to some interesting quirks. For example, if you have string players by themselves they may gravitate towards a just intonation major 3rd on a particular held note (5/4 harmonic ratio), you would then be careful to bring in a piano with an equal tempered major 3rd as it is considerably sharp in comparison.

Other examples are the 7ths. Depending on the limit of your tuning system, eg 5 limit or 7 limit, the minor 7th will sound different to an equal tempered one. This has ramifications for dominant 7th chords

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Service Dog wrote:Bryant Park is undergoing seasonal make-over from this
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to this
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I'm working as a stagehand this week, taking down the lighting & sound gear & tall trusses, as the ice rink melts.

I dont get out much, when Im not working. So it's novel to me to have co-workers who prattle against Trump all day. Their zingers dont seem to make sense. One woman said, "Did he NOT kill anyone today?!", as if he's killing people on a daily basis. They make weird predictions about impeachment & assassination... utterly unfazed by how all their Trump predictions turned-out, over the last year-plus. "Their plan is for Pence to take-over. That's why he acts presidential. " I say weird shit back... I would rather be the funny weirdo than the Trump Guy. Today I agreed that Pence would be worse: "After all those good-looking gay guys get electrocuted into being straight, it's going to be much harder for regular guys to get women."

A couple days ago, my boss said he didnt care if Milo isnt a pedophile, or Sessions isnt in cahoots with the Russians.... they're bad, so if they go-down for false reasons, Great!

Tonight my neighbor said something similar: if Obama & the FBI spied on Trump to keep him from winning the election-- "Considering how things have turned out, it just shows that would-have been the right thing to do." I said a lot of racist cops who frame or murder blacks-- are killing ones who were actually quite terrible people, too. Neighbor got really mad at the comparison.

He also said that there would be nothing wrong with Obama using FBI wiretap to spy on Trump to win the election, as long as a judge approved the warrant... even if the judge was a Democrat who approved the warrant to help Obama throw the election. "As long as it's not technically illegal, it's not wrong." I didnt think to ask if that applies to the Muslim Ban & everything-else Trump has done in office.

Fucking normies scare the shit out of me.
I'm not sure that these people qualify as "normies" - they seem batshit insane to me. In the UK people think Trump isn't going to be good first either the US or the West but I haven't heard anything comments like you are hearing. The US seems quite mad at times.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:So is anybody on this board not a guitarist?
The bassists aren't.

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I am a bad guitarist.

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Malky wrote:
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The US seems quite mad at times.
The Cat wrote: We are all mad here.

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Service Dog wrote: <snip>
I dont get out much, when Im not working. So it's novel to me to have co-workers who prattle against Trump all day. Their zingers dont seem to make sense. One woman said, "Did he NOT kill anyone today?!", as if he's killing people on a daily basis. They make weird predictions about impeachment & assassination... utterly unfazed by how all their Trump predictions turned-out, over the last year-plus. "Their plan is for Pence to take-over. That's why he acts presidential. " I say weird shit back... I would rather be the funny weirdo than the Trump Guy. Today I agreed that Pence would be worse: "After all those good-looking gay guys get electrocuted into being straight, it's going to be much harder for regular guys to get women."

A couple days ago, my boss said he didnt care if Milo isnt a pedophile, or Sessions isnt in cahoots with the Russians.... they're bad, so if they go-down for false reasons, Great!

Tonight my neighbor said something similar: if Obama & the FBI spied on Trump to keep him from winning the election-- "Considering how things have turned out, it just shows that would-have been the right thing to do." I said a lot of racist cops who frame or murder blacks-- are killing ones who were actually quite terrible people, too. Neighbor got really mad at the comparison.

He also said that there would be nothing wrong with Obama using FBI wiretap to spy on Trump to win the election, as long as a judge approved the warrant... even if the judge was a Democrat who approved the warrant to help Obama throw the election. "As long as it's not technically illegal, it's not wrong." I didnt think to ask if that applies to the Muslim Ban & everything-else Trump has done in office.

Fucking normies scare the shit out of me.
That's partisan politics to you. Very few people care about truth or principles when it comes to politics. This isn't a result of the "post-truth world OMG", it's always been like that. When strong emotions get into play people follow narrative, not logic. They support their goals and don't care about the tactics. It happens in all parties, churches, movements or simply groups of like-minded people.

There are two dominant narratives about Trump: for Trump haters he's Hitler&Satan combined into an orange skinned mix, for Trump fans he can do no wrong. Reality, of course, is much more complex.

I don't like Trump. There's evidence to be concerned about nepotism and cronyism in his administration and between his administration and other countries (even though there's not enough evidence to be sure that this cronyism, nepotism and connections are illegal). There people he has nominated has a bad track record at dealing with environmental issues (pollution or climate change). And gutting the ACA is dumb.

I don't think that his blanket ban was a good idea, it doesn't address the real issues of Saudi/Salafi infiltration of muslim communities in the west and it was poorly implemented. Whether it's compatible with the US constitution is for the SCOTUS to judge.

And yet there's a lot of derangement and stupidity among the critics of Trump. He's not Hitler, he's not a Nazi, he's not as crazy and stupid as many think. He's uncouth, crass, childish, narcissistic but not the monster of evil and idiocy that most critics try to paint him as. And subverting the rules of liberal democracy to get back at him is much worse than anything he's done or said. Anyone who thinks that a coup, assassination, riots, or violating the law is justified because Trump is Evil is a moron who shouldn't hold an elected office.

He's bad, but not as bad as many deranged people think. Truth to be told he's not worse than Dubya so far. He's gutting the ACA but any other Republican president would have done the same. He's cutting off US government money to international agencies which support abortion but that's what all Republican presidents have done and would do. He's a climate change denier and close to anti-vaxxer, just like pretty much every Republican president or candidate. He has cronies and special interests: all presidents, Republicans or Democrats, do. Trump simply seem to have more sympathies for Russia than for Saudi Arabia.

If he's done anything illegal and it can be proven then he'll face the consequences of his actions, but simply being more Russia-friendly than Saudi-friendly isn't such a big deal. Russia is a corrupt oligarchy where any opposition is violently crushed by the authoritarian oligarchs with ties to Putin and his staff, but the US have worked and supported regimes far worse than Russia (including Saudi Arabia).

It seems to me that there's an attempt from many Republican neo-cons to prevent Trump from normalizing US relations with Russia. Whether this is a good thing depends on which flavor of cronyism seems less threatening to you. Personally, from the disastrous results of US policies in recent years I think that some kind of compromise with Russia to focus more on crushing islamic terrorism isn't such a bad idea.

And hey, so far Trump hasn't waged any new foreign wars, and even seems willing to let the US disentangle from some messes in the Middle east (unlike Dubya). Hell, he killed the TPP, which is something that no other Republican or Democrat president seemed to be willing to do.

Overall he's not worse than most Republican presidents or presidential candidates the US have had in recent years.

Many in the left are willing to support anything or anyone who's anti-Trump: a former Mexican president with lousy track records on human rights, islamists like Linda Sarsour who praise Saudi Arabia and say that Sharia is A-OK, black women who kidnapped a killed a white man, Palestinian terrorists who killed dozens of Israelis, etc. The Women's March and Science March are SJW-led buffoonish jokes. People in the left blame Trump for every stupid, hateful or even suspicious thing that happens in the US, he's become a boogeyman.

For far too many people partisan politics and elections are a game of Good Guys vs. Bad Guys, of Justice vs. Injustice. In reality elections are simply a choice between different ideas within the same framework of liberal democracy, where checks and balances don't disappear just because a candidate says so.

If Trump violates the law or subverts the liberal democratic process by all means remove him from office. If, however, all he does are things which are within the bounds of his office then you can criticize, mock, satirize but you can't violate laws or subvert liberal democracy just because he's doing things you disapprove of.

The Democrats should focus on rebuilding their party, reconnecting with the people who deserted them, understand the impact of their choices and policies, and redraft a new set of proposals to become popular again and win back the presidency in 2020. They should understand that SJW tactics alienated many people from their policies. They should criticize Trump, but a) for the things he actually does, not for what they think he's doing and b) by pointing out WHY what he's doing is harmful and wrong, not simply by shouting thought-terminating cliches like "racist!" or "Islamophobic!" or "sexist!".

The anti-Trump Republicans should focus on rebuilding THEIR party, which was pretty shaken by the Trump phenomenon just like the Democratic party, understand what's really going on, why neocon tactics led to disasters and alienated many people from their traditional policies and led them to support a populist like Trump.

Instead it's all about Trump. There's nothing but Trump. There are no new ideas, no new strategies, no acknowledgment of mistakes, no self-reflection. No, it's all a game of which new thing should we say about Trump. And Trump knows it. He revels in the attention: he's a troll, he likes to trigger people, and people of all kinds feed the troll constantly.

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Really? wrote:
That image is too generous...

What about this one?

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You could almost forgive the urchin for his dirty / rusty magazine for the way he keeps his finger outside the guard.

Then there's Putin.

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deLurch wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:She's the woman in this image:
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Bossy = Demanding unearned influence & respect, as opposed from commanding from a position of earned respect for your previously displayed talents, skills & contributions.

Boys can be bossy, but that gets weeded out of them extremely fast.

Reminds me of this little gem. Failing to See, Fueling Hatred.. Not exactly the "banality of evil" but close enough to unearned privilege, entitlement and expectations while pointing out the same in other people.

It still is a decent article but here we get into the fish not completely unaware it swims in water or something. So go ahead and read the whole thing.
It took me years to understand that the boys who tormented me in college didn’t feel powerful, didn’t see their antagonism as oppression. I was even louder and more brash back then than I am now. I walked into any given room performing confidence in ways that completely obscured my insecurities. I took up space, used my sexuality as a tool, and demanded attention. These were the survival skills that I had learned to harness as a ticket out. And these are the very same skills that have allowed me to succeed professionally and get access to tremendous privilege. I have paid a price for some of the games that I have played, but I can’t deny that I’ve gained a lot in the process. I have also come to understand that my survival strategies were completely infuriating to many geeky white boys that I encountered in tech. Many guys saw me as getting ahead because I was a token woman. I was accused of sleeping my way to the top on plenty of occasions. I wasn’t simply seen as an alpha — I was seen as the kind of girl that screwed boys over. And because I was working on diversity and inclusion projects in computer science to attract more women and minorities as the field, I was seen as being the architect of excluding white men. For so many geeky guys I met, CS was the place where they felt powerful and I stood for taking that away. I represented an oppressor to them even though I felt like it was they who were oppressing me.

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Currently downloading The Red Pill from iTunes. I'll never get to see it on a big screen so I'm happy to get it this way. Best of all, no Emma Watson.

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rayshul wrote:I am a bad guitarist.
me too. All fingers & no ear. I got an electric guitar in high school & wanted to be a noisy punk artiste like Thurston Moore or Funkadelic or the KLF. Took some lessons from a guy who taught playing with each right hand finger & thumb on a string, rather than a pick & hammer-on techniques with the left. So I can generate complex patterns, indifferent or autistic to keeping steady time or details of tuning or key. For me, if the most prominent notes are in the same key, then all the feedback & dissonant extra-notes would hopefully sound intentionally-off. I believed the romantic garageband idea that banging away for 10,000 hours would transmogrify me from a dumb kid into Beck. It might work to make ya a rawk star, but it doesnt make ya a guitarist or musician.

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Republicans want to gut ACA because it's "Obamacare," the signature legislative accomplishment of the Obama administration. That's really it. It may be expensive, but any insurance driven non-unified American health care system is going to be astronomically expensive, because the insurance industry has successfully infected Americans with the mind virus that anything else will be inferior mass heath care. They want to destroy "Obamacare" because in doing so they think they will avenge themselves for the eight years they sat helplessly as "big government" encroached more and more.

The weird thing is that American actually has at least two huge national health care finance systems that are proven and waiting to be expanded. There is the Veterans Administration health care system, which has its own hospitals, and medicare, which covers the disabled and everyone over 65. Medicare in particular could be gradually expanded by decrementally reducing the age of entry, down to 62, 60, 58, etc.

Any of that would need to overcome massive political and lobbyist opposition, since THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY basically has American by the balls.

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[quote="Malky"]

I'm not sure that these people qualify as "normies" - they seem batshit insane to me. ... The US seems quite mad at times.[/quite]

That's the scary part.
The people I quoted hold steady jobs, have spouses & kids, earn college degrees, maintain credit ratings, dress prestentably... things I've failed at.
I think Kirbmarc's 'partisanship' diagnosis is correct.
But it's worsened by the ubiquity of marijuana, alcohol, prescription anti-depressants/ anxiety drugs/ opioids/ ADHD meds. And bad TV, bad education, not reading enough, not learning to debate, not immersing in other viewpoints... & lack of a coherent moral presence in culture, halfassed-embrace of consumerist immorality-- over truly transgressive experimentation.

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Hunt wrote:Republicans want to gut ACA because it's "Obamacare," the signature legislative accomplishment of the Obama administration. That's really it. It may be expensive, but any insurance driven non-unified American health care system is going to be astronomically expensive, because the insurance industry has successfully infected Americans with the mind virus that anything else will be inferior mass heath care. They want to destroy "Obamacare" because in doing so they think they will avenge themselves for the eight years they sat helplessly as "big government" encroached more and more.
That's petty, small-minded and quite frankly stupid.
The weird thing is that American actually has at least two huge national health care finance systems that are proven and waiting to be expanded. There is the Veterans Administration health care system, which has its own hospitals, and medicare, which covers the disabled and everyone over 65. Medicare in particular could be gradually expanded by decrementally reducing the age of entry, down to 62, 60, 58, etc.

Any of that would need to overcome massive political and lobbyist opposition, since THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY basically has American by the balls.
The US government actually spends more money per capita in healthcare than the UK. Spending more for getting less. That's not very fiscally conservative, it's just pro-corporation cronyism.

Which is the real problem of many issues within the US: lobbies, special interests, cronies, corporate politics. It's a bi-partisan problem.

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Emma Watson is introduced as having visited Bangladesh, Zambia, and Uruguay. Her committment is cited as reason why she was asked to be "Goodwill Ambassador 2014", and I don't see what's wrong with it, exactly.

For one, let's look at what the Unicef writes on gender.
Unicef, [url=https://www.unicef.org/publicpartnerships/files/2015ARR_Gender.pdf]PDF[/url], Executive Summary wrote:While there has been progress in advancing gender equality in the past 15 years, such as increases in school enrolment, and reductions in maternal mortality and mother-to-child transmission of HIV, important challenges remain. More than 25 per cent of girls are still married before they turn 18, and 20 per cent become mothers before that age. Poor girls in sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia are not likely to reach or complete secondary schooling, and girls are 2.5 times more likely to be out of school than boys in conflict situations. Gender-based violence is endemic in family and intimate partner relationships, as well as in emergency and humanitarian settings
  • Bangladesh is 86.6% Islam, and forced marriage is a big problem there, with nearly 30% married before reaching puperty. Human Rights Watch makes it ~30% girls, either way, it's under Islam and if you search, it's huge problem that affects girls. Here's even one from a "Muslim Times" blog. Perhaps Emma Watson needs to also propose sketchy ideas about "nuking Mecca" or "peeing on the Quran" to be accepted by some folks here?
  • Zambia is one of the aforementioned sub-Saharan countries, however women can take a day off when they want, meant to when they have their menses, though the country has plenty of holidays, according to the BBC. This news item fills the search results when you google women and Zambia. But when you look for the reason of Watson's visit, again child marriage of girls comes up. 8.5% children are married before they are 15 years old, and 41.6% before they are 18. Generally, you can see gender inequality in the stats. Again.
  • Uruguay was her first visit as a UN Women’s Goodwill Ambassador, to bolster a newly introduced quota giving women a 30% participation in politics. According to "Japan Times", "just 14 percent of Uruguay’s legislators are women." Quotas are useful, for we know from elites research that social circles perpetuate themselves (e.g. people recognize other people socialized the same way, and prefer them. Meritocracy is mythology for adults -- also why elites have their own fashionable sports, way to dress etc. which distinguishes their circle, and that's gendered, too, and not just a matter of class).


Again, the denial of gender inequality on a global scale is ludicrous, comparable to climate change or evolution denial. And while I don't agree with everything she says in the speech, she also disarms the "privilege" part you hold against her, right there in 5:28. It's also perfectly fine to say what you mean by a word like "feminism", and then stick to that, which she appears to be doing. She acknowledges that the term is controversial, but that the ideas (she then explains) matter. She also says that she wants that men "feel invited" to participate in the conversation.

Intersectionalists don't want this, but that's hardly Emma Watson's concern, unless guilty-by-association via the word "feminism" is now acceptable. By 7:30 she says that she feels father's roles aren't valued enough. I thought this is also something MRA people wanted. Then she talks about mental illness of men,then about suicide of men... wait a minute... perhaps in addition to proposing "peeing on Quran", she first needs to join the "honey badger" club to be accepted? But I guess it's in the way for MRA to claim feminists never say anything about such issues. She returns to child-marriage of girls and education of girls in Africa (around min 11), consistent with the topics of her visits in the countries mentioned above. Her core message in that speech is about freedom, emancipation and education, that is Enlightenment by the book.

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Aneris wrote:Emma Watson is introduced as having visited Bangladesh, Zambia, and Uruguay. Her committment is cited as reason why she was asked to be "Goodwill Ambassador 2014", and I don't see what's wrong with it, exactly.

For one, let's look at what the Unicef writes on gender.
Unicef, [url=https://www.unicef.org/publicpartnerships/files/2015ARR_Gender.pdf]PDF[/url], Executive Summary wrote:While there has been progress in advancing gender equality in the past 15 years, such as increases in school enrolment, and reductions in maternal mortality and mother-to-child transmission of HIV, important challenges remain. More than 25 per cent of girls are still married before they turn 18, and 20 per cent become mothers before that age. Poor girls in sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia are not likely to reach or complete secondary schooling, and girls are 2.5 times more likely to be out of school than boys in conflict situations. Gender-based violence is endemic in family and intimate partner relationships, as well as in emergency and humanitarian settings
  • Bangladesh is 86.6% Islam, and forced marriage is a big problem there, with nearly 30% married before reaching puperty. Human Rights Watch makes it ~30% girls, either way, it's under Islam and if you search, it's huge problem that affects girls. Here's even one from a "Muslim Times" blog. Perhaps Emma Watson needs to also propose sketchy ideas about "nuking Mecca" or "peeing on the Quran" to be accepted by some folks here?
  • Zambia is one of the aforementioned sub-Saharan countries, however women can take a day off when they want, meant to when they have their menses, though the country has plenty of holidays, according to the BBC. This news item fills the search results when you google women and Zambia. But when you look for the reason of Watson's visit, again child marriage of girls comes up. 8.5% children are married before they are 15 years old, and 41.6% before they are 18. Generally, you can see gender inequality in the stats. Again.
  • Uruguay was her first visit as a UN Women’s Goodwill Ambassador, to bolster a newly introduced quota giving women a 30% participation in politics. According to "Japan Times", "just 14 percent of Uruguay’s legislators are women." Quotas are useful, for we know from elites research that social circles perpetuate themselves (e.g. people recognize other people socialized the same way, and prefer them. Meritocracy is mythology for adults -- also why elites have their own fashionable sports, way to dress etc. which distinguishes their circle, and that's gendered, too, and not just a matter of class).


Again, the denial of gender inequality on a global scale is ludicrous, comparable to climate change or evolution denial. And while I don't agree with everything she says in the speech, she also disarms the "privilege" part you hold against her, right there in 5:28. It's also perfectly fine to say what you mean by a word like "feminism", and then stick to that, which she appears to be doing. She acknowledges that the term is controversial, but that the ideas (she then explains) matter. She also says that she wants that men "feel invited" to participate in the conversation.

Intersectionalists don't want this, but that's hardly Emma Watson's concern, unless guilty-by-association via the word "feminism" is now acceptable. By 7:30 she says that she feels father's roles aren't valued enough. I thought this is also something MRA people wanted. Then she talks about mental illness of men,then about suicide of men... wait a minute... perhaps in addition to proposing "peeing on Quran", she first needs to join the "honey badger" club to be accepted? But I guess it's in the way for MRA to claim feminists never say anything about such issues. She returns to child-marriage of girls and education of girls in Africa (around min 11), consistent with the topics of her visits in the countries mentioned above. Her core message in that speech is about freedom, emancipation and education, that is Enlightenment by the book.
I don't have a problem with most of that (I'm skeptical about the efficiency of mere quotas to fix issues, they're just hollow signalers unless society as a whole changes). The issues you point out can be described as women's right activism or feminism or whatever, but they do exist. And as I've written all the brouhaha about her being a "fake feminist" is from authoritarians who want to have the right to tell people who's a real feminist and who isn't.

The problem is that Watson is conflating those real issues with petty, unimportant, uneducated and superficial "celebrity activism", SJW-lite stupidity like "being called bossy at age 8 oppression" and the whole idea of "HeForShe", meaning that the burden is on men to act on women's behalf, instead of pointing out that it's far more useful to urge all people in "developed" countries to care for those in "non-developed" ones.

Gender inequality is far more about culture (especially "traditional", pregnancy-centered culture), religion (not just islam: christianity and "traditional" beliefs in Africa are part of the problem, as well as hinduism in many areas of India) and poverty than about an evil conspiracy of men keeping uppity women down. Comparing real issues to bullshit first world problems muddles the waters.

Today in most liberal democracies women have the same legal rights as men, child marriages are illegal and have pretty much disappeared and the "pay gap" or "rape epidemic" are closer to being manufactured moral outrages or bad readings of statistics, while "rape culture" is a conspiracy theory (if anything in some colleges there's a "rape accusation culture").

Most women's rights issues of real importance today take place in authoritarian third world countries, especially those with a huge influence of religion in politics. The UN should concentrate its resources on those issues rather than to pander to those who think that "bossy" is oppression or "you're a liar" and "you suck" are harassment.

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gurugeorge wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
gurugeorge wrote: The big problem with the Russia/Trump idea is that if there were any evidence of a connection, it would have come out by now.
I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "connection".
Is that supposed to be responsive?
http://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ti ... -of-events

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
gurugeorge wrote: Is that supposed to be responsive?
http://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ti ... -of-events
Yes, yes, we're all familiar with what we're supposed to believe. But none of that amounts to good evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia to win the election, evidence of Russian influence on the election, etc. It's a bunch of aerated thin gruel.

Again, the thing I'm finding quite ironic about this, is that the evidence that Mark Levin pieced together is partly taken from the mainstream media's very own crowing about "inside sources" from the spy world over the past few months.

And yet none of the evidence has amounted to anything solid ...

And now, suddenly, apparently there wasn't any spying going on after all, oh no ... :lol:

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Aneris wrote: Quotas are useful, for we know from elites research that social circles perpetuate themselves (e.g. people recognize other people socialized the same way, and prefer them. Meritocracy is mythology for adults -- also why elites have their own fashionable sports, way to dress etc. which distinguishes their circle, and that's gendered, too, and not just a matter of class).
Haven' much to say about the rest of your comment, but I wanted to address this. The fact that "social circles perpetuate themselves" is precisely why quotas are bad. If you introduce a quota for female representation, it will be filled by women from the inner circle, reducing the possibility for anyone outside that inner circle to get elected. It will also reduce respect for female politicians, who will be regarded as quota hires whether they benefited from a quota or not. Finally, it's rigging elections. Gender gerrymandering. The feeling that whichever way you vote you'll get the candidate the inner circle wants is how you end up with the likes of Trump.

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DownThunder wrote: For the purpose of Jazz reharmonisation, A# and Bb are effectively the same. For traditional just tuning systems (or any tuning system which uses simple harmonic ratios) there is a functional difference between sharpening a note and flattening one.

But since you seem to be interested in modern reharmonisation, accidentals are still delineated to retain proper enharmonic spelling/proper scale degrees for each note name. It makes things less confusing in the long run.

Most reharmonisation techniques would be impossibly unwieldy without equal temperament. Your example of Am and Fm has the effect that is does because it utilises constant structure in equal temperament - maj 3rds divide an octave by 3 evenly.

More importantly each note retains the same ratiometric relationship to one another within the chord. Playing familiar progressions in other tuning systems leads to some hilarious results. (Or interesting!)

I don't check the pit too much now, but Ill try answer some of the posts. I may have repeated things that others have said but I had to cull the quote nest that was happening. BTW I am a professional musician and composer.
Wut? :shock:

Man, just play the blues scale over some shit. Most of the time it sounds pretty good.

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paddybrown wrote:Haven' much to say about the rest of your comment, but I wanted to address this. The fact that "social circles perpetuate themselves" is precisely why quotas are bad. If you introduce a quota for female representation, it will be filled by women from the inner circle, reducing the possibility for anyone outside that inner circle to get elected. It will also reduce respect for female politicians, who will be regarded as quota hires whether they benefited from a quota or not. Finally, it's rigging elections. Gender gerrymandering. The feeling that whichever way you vote you'll get the candidate the inner circle wants is how you end up with the likes of Trump.
Seeing the bold part through the other's eyes: if I were a woman or some minority sluiced into a job by some positive action program, I'd feel deeply uncomfortable. Even worse if you get promoted over possibly better-qualified colleagues; good luck trying to assert your authority in such a situation.

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https://www.google.com/amp/m.eonline.co ... down-there

"There's so much shame" around bath and beauty routines, says Emma Watson, adding it's "important" that she not omit any detail. Watson proceeds to reveal that she takes 3 baths per day, conditions her pubic hair using all-organic products, devoutly adheres to an "in-depth" skin care routine, and has been bleaching her upper lip since age 9.

“There’s something about looking into someone else’s makeup bag—it’s such an intimate glimpse into their personality somehow. When I was a kid and working on Harry Potter, I would always ask the makeup artists, or just anyone, ‘Can I see your makeup bag?’ I loved exploring that way. And my other favorite thing was, while I was having my hair and makeup done, to clean and organize people’s makeup bags. So I would sit there and clean every product and put it all back together again. Anyway, it’s been a passion of mine for a long time. Recently I’ve become super interested in sustainability and transparency and understanding what I’m putting on my face and on my body. It’s been a fun little mission to see how far I can go with it… Can I create a completely sustainable wardrobe? Can I dress sustainably on the red carpet? Can I put together a hair and makeup look with completely organic products? I needed to figure out if it was achievable or not. You can't talk the talk if you don't walk the walk. So that’s what I’ve been discovering over the past couple of years.

At first, I didn’t really know the answer. I was doing all this research and came across Content, a cute little shop on the Marylebone High Street. Every week, I would go back and try something different, until one of the girls who works there asked if I wanted to meet Imelda Burke, who runs the store. So I went for lunch with Imelda and we became really close friends. Now I’m lucky enough to be able to text her and ask about any product I find—if she knows if it’s organic or natural or clean and all that. She actually just came out with her own book, which is amazing because she’s just done an insane amount of research. The other way I find out about a lot of my products is on Instagram. I just keep a beady eye out really… I’m like a magpie running around trying out new products. Most of my routine keeps to an 80/20 philosophy because it’s very difficult to be a complete purist, especially when working in the film industry. You can end up driving yourself a bit mad and make it more stressful than it should be. Sometimes you just need a mascara to be waterproof and that’s OK.

The object for me when applying makeup is you should be able to see as much skin as possible. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve embraced my freckles much more and I want to be able to see them. When we were filming Beauty and the Beast, I insisted on keeping my freckles as a part of the movie. There are so many young girls who are going through puberty who really hate having them, so I felt the need to say that I have them and that I think the look of natural skin is beautiful. I didn’t want to get blanked out!

On a daily basis, I’ll always use the Red Pomegranate Cheek and Lip Stain from The Body Shop. It’s not certified organic or anything, but they do a ton of awesome work for the environment and fair trade. It’s something I always wear because A) it doesn’t really look like makeup and B) I tend to get very pale. I’m not someone who has a ton of pink in her skin, so I get washed out without a bit of color added to my face. It makes me look healthy and less exhausted. And I like that you can kiss someone while you’re wearing it and it’s not going to come off. Other than that, everyday makeup is my RMS 'Un' Cover-Up Concealer and Powder. That’s an amazing brand—I’m pretty obsessed with RMS.

If I’m doing my makeup myself, I do quite a clean eye and a matte red lip. The red lip always comes out if something important is happening. I did it on graduation day, and I did it for the Women’s March! There’s a brand called Lily Lolo, they do really nice red. Inika is another brand that does beautiful colors. And Marion Cotillard’s makeup artist has a line called Absolution Cosmetics and he makes an amazing collection of matte lipstick shades. They’re incredible.

With the lip, I tend to do a soft line on the top of my eye in brown, and what I call the banana—but that’s probably not the technical term for the contour above your eye. [Laughs] Finding a good, natural eyeliner took me like, six months, but I found one! Jane Iredale does an amazing liquid eyeliner and she has one in a dark brown, which I prefer to black on my skintone. The Jane Iredale Clear Brow Gel is also very good. For contour, I have a couple of things. Tata Harper does a Bronzing Cheek Tint that I’ll use to define or as bronzer that’s not too orangey. You know, it’s hard to find a bronzer that’s a good color and not glittery. Four or five years ago, my makeup artist Dotti introduced me to the line Vita Liberata—they do a self-tanning bronzing powder that actually tans you slightly while you’re wearing it. It sounds like a lot, but it’s actually super, super natural.

The only mascara I use is from DHC. The thing is, I really, really hate using harsh makeup removers, especially around my eyes. They sting and make my eyes water and don’t feel good to me. But the DHC mascara only comes off in warm water. So I use it on films because if I’m in a tank or it’s raining, then the mascara doesn’t run because it won’t move in cold water. And the brush is really nice. I swear by it.

For color products, I like Ilia and this amazing brand called Elde. The founder is this guy who started making his own products in his kitchen when he was 14 and none of the traditional products he had worked for him. Now he’s in his early 20s and makes the prettiest cream blushes and eye shadows. Great colors of all sorts. Those are things you can apply with your fingers, but I have brushes, too. Most of mine come from Caroline James, but there’s also this other company called Artis that I like to use when I’m wearing more makeup. I really use it to work the makeup into my skin, and when I’m done, everything looks airbrushed. And I always clean out my candles and keep my brushes in the empty glass.

No matter what, I always wash my face at night. I could get back from a shoot at 4 AM and still cleanse, tone, and moisturize before going to bed. People are amazed by this, but it’s just one of those self-care practices that I really enjoy. I think it’s because, when I was going through puberty—particularly around ages 14 and 15—I had really bad skin. So when you get in a good place with you skin, you really appreciate it and try to take care of it.

Now my skin tends to run pretty dry so I use the Évolué Gentle Cleanser and Firming Toner because it doesn’t have tons of alcohol in it or make your skin sting, but it really does the job. And then I switch up my moisturizers depending on what issue I’m trying to address. I use the MV Organics Rose Plus Booster a lot and also their Rose Soothing and Protective Moisturiser. If my skin is feeling a bit sun-damaged or congested, I like their 9 Oil Cleansing Tonic, but I’ve never been big on masks! I guess I don’t totally buy into it… I do exfoliate with the Évolué Resurfacing Grains once a week because I think exfoliating is important. But masks? Meh. Maybe I’ll do one when I’m getting ready for an event or something like that, but only because it feels like it’s something special and luxurious as opposed to because it actually does something.

I have a bath every single day of my life. And if I can have two or three—amazing. Nothing terrible is going to happen in the bath, so I always find time for that. I’ll take phone conversations in the bath, anything. Sometimes I’ll use Epsom salts and oils, but my favorite is the C.O Bigelow Apothecary Cold and Flu Soak. Oh my God, it’s amazing! It has like eucalyptus and peppermint and bark and Echinacea and ginger… If you’re sick, it’s the ultimate. It clears out my sinuses and makes me feel really clean. Another brand I use a lot of is called Lola’s Apothecary. They do this incredible milk bath with rose petals that’s inspired by Cleopatra. Amazing. Then there’s a brand called French Girl Organics that has this great Sea Polish which exfoliates and leaves you moisturized afterwards. I like that because it eliminates a step after the bath.

It took me a while, but I finally found some good natural deodorant. It’s not an easy search! The best one I’ve found is Agent Nateur—I use the No. 3. I also love the Weleda Sage Deodorant for the smell. Soapwalla’s Deodorant Cream works too, but you have to scoop it out with your hands, so I always end up getting it on my clothes. But that one really works. If you need a 100% natural deodorant that you can rely on, it really does the job. You might just get it all over yourself.

Sister and Co. Skin Food makes this whitening toothpaste that I like to use. Whether or not it actually whitens is irrelevant to me because it just makes my mouth feel really clean. I’ve done oil pulling before and that’s fine, but it takes so long and who has the time? I certainly don’t, but I do like using this toothpaste that gives me the same clean-mouth feeling.

Hair is the hardest thing! My grandmother was a redhead, so I have quite a lot of warmth in my hair color. But for whatever reason, when it gets dyed, it tends to go a bit brassy or orange. To get rid of that tone, I use the Maria Nila Sheer Silver Shampoo and Conditioner. The brand is amazing—vegan, no parabens, and their packaging is carbon neutral. Then occasionally I use the Masque in my hair for 20 minutes. That really gets the brassiness out. Then for styling, I really like the John Masters Organics Hairspray. It doesn’t come in an aerosol, but it actually holds my hair. Rahua does a good Voluminous Dry Shampoo that I swear by. And I’ve been using more oils, too. I like the Alchemy Grapefruit Hair Remedy, or I’ll use the Acure Argan Oil. Or even just coconut oil on the ends.

It’s funny—I was just talking to my friend before this about how in the Instagram era it’s so easy to edit your life so that it looks perfect. But I bleach my top lip and tweeze my eyebrows and you’d never get to see that, even though it’s a part of my routine. There’s still so much shame around the things you do to get ready while you've got a towel wrapped around your head. It’s important to me not to edit that out. I’ve been bleaching my top lip since I was nine. I don’t do it very often, but I do it! There’s that, and I use Fur Oil. I’ll use that anywhere from the ends of my hair to my eyebrows to my pubic hair. It’s an amazing all-purpose product.

Weirdly, I often don’t wear nail polish on my hands in my day-to-day life. It doesn’t seem like a useful way to spend my time when it will be destroyed within minutes. But I love, love, love having my toenails crazy colors. I use the brand Kure Bazaar, which is one of the first brands that excludes things like toluene, formaldehyde, synthetic camphor, but it does actually provide trend colors so it’s pretty cool. And I also use a brand called Floss Gloss. They have the prettiest blue color called El Capitan, which is probably my go-to shade.

My favorite bottle can’t be found anywhere. It was the first perfume my dad bought me when I was 11 or 12. We went to Provence in France and he took me to a perfume making factory and saw how it was made and everything. We bought it there, and I don’t know where else you can get it. I’ve tried to find it but I can’t, so I just keep it with me as a good luck charm now. If someone knows what it is, that would be amazing! I would love if someone could figure it out for me. That would make my life.”

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Methods behind the campus madness by Sumantra Maitra:
The coup that Western academia experienced from the 1980s onwards has been subtle and did not feature marching jackboots and tanks. But it has been equally dangerous, and has resulted in a specific minority of rabidly ideological academics, who have tried to stifle debate and oppose Enlightenment values including science, and have set the tone of debate from transgender toilets, to books, curiculum and courses, to student sex lives. Postmodernists have tried to hijack biology, have taken over large parts of political science, almost all of anthropology, history and English, and have proliferated self-referential journals, citation circles, non-replicable research, and the curtailing of nuanced debate through activism and marches, instigating a bunch of gullible students to intimidate any opposing ideas.
So what is to be done? In India, laws were enacted barring campus activism in elite institutions of national importance, and professors who encouraged criminal activity such as vandalism were sacked. However, forces of economics are still the strongest deterrence in society. Western universities need to cut off the scholarships and research funding of postmodernists, and disband departments which promote toxic, divisive, pseudoscientific ideology. Then institutions of higher learning will again be a place for what they were originally meant, the exchange of ideas and verifiable knowledge.

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Aneris wrote:Emma Watson is introduced as having visited Bangladesh, Zambia, and Uruguay. Her committment is cited as reason why she was asked to be "Goodwill Ambassador 2014", and I don't see what's wrong with it, exactly.
Did she ever actually reach Zambia?

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Kirbmarc wrote:Methods behind the campus madness by Sumantra Maitra:
The coup that Western academia experienced from the 1980s onwards has been subtle and did not feature marching jackboots and tanks. But it has been equally dangerous, and has resulted in a specific minority of rabidly ideological academics, who have tried to stifle debate and oppose Enlightenment values including science, and have set the tone of debate from transgender toilets, to books, curiculum and courses, to student sex lives. Postmodernists have tried to hijack biology, have taken over large parts of political science, almost all of anthropology, history and English, and have proliferated self-referential journals, citation circles, non-replicable research, and the curtailing of nuanced debate through activism and marches, instigating a bunch of gullible students to intimidate any opposing ideas.
So what is to be done? In India, laws were enacted barring campus activism in elite institutions of national importance, and professors who encouraged criminal activity such as vandalism were sacked. However, forces of economics are still the strongest deterrence in society. Western universities need to cut off the scholarships and research funding of postmodernists, and disband departments which promote toxic, divisive, pseudoscientific ideology. Then institutions of higher learning will again be a place for what they were originally meant, the exchange of ideas and verifiable knowledge.

Good read. In other news, the japanese man crushed to death by his porn stash is #FakeNews according to Gizmodo (not linking to them, ill wait for a real source)

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feathers wrote:
paddybrown wrote:Haven' much to say about the rest of your comment, but I wanted to address this. The fact that "social circles perpetuate themselves" is precisely why quotas are bad. If you introduce a quota for female representation, it will be filled by women from the inner circle, reducing the possibility for anyone outside that inner circle to get elected. It will also reduce respect for female politicians, who will be regarded as quota hires whether they benefited from a quota or not. Finally, it's rigging elections. Gender gerrymandering. The feeling that whichever way you vote you'll get the candidate the inner circle wants is how you end up with the likes of Trump.
Seeing the bold part through the other's eyes: if I were a woman or some minority sluiced into a job by some positive action program, I'd feel deeply uncomfortable. Even worse if you get promoted over possibly better-qualified colleagues; good luck trying to assert your authority in such a situation.
Social circles, as in "rich men who play golf and are into expensive cigars", not "Bob and his friends" (that would be something else, e.g. nepotism). There need to be some measure of equality because politicians decide over women, too, and it's not a matter of women merely running for office, because there is often (if not always) a selection, who can even participate. It's not actually decided by the people in an open for all democratic process. By the way, the same argument can be made about granting access to people from a different class into politics, where similar obstacles apply. For example, in Germany, professional politicians are suspiciously often lawyers, and they like and thus back each other. They share the same stable-smell, even if nobody is conciously keeping other demographics out. There's more a climate, manners, behaviours, unwritten rules, that tend to close such circles.

Another argument for quotas is that you also need to sometimes give someone a space to learn the ropes, acquire what it takes. A reason why some demographics are left behind could be, that their subculture did not sufficiently absorb the lessons that are in living practice among other already successful groups. This is not trivial either. There's a reason you want to keep a culture "alive" and not lose an entire generation of staff, because you cannot always just hire people and it's magically back there where it was (and also won't be after some years).

We know that The Great Man theory is to a large part not true. Some exceptional individuals existed, but generally, it's more a matter of standing on the shoulders of giants. But you need the giants, and be able to get up there. If you always keep people out, due to the reason outlined above, they can never gain a foothold and thus never pass down the ladder for others (or it's too rare and traditions don't continue unbroken). I believe this aspect is vastly underestimated, though good companies know that and apply it.

The argument that quotas devalue the position, because it gives others a way to rationalize away someone's skill has no bearing on the position itself, only on prejudice, and quotas can also be formulated neutrally (i.e. any gender needs to have at least 30% representation, which does the trick for women first, but also keeps it fair would the pendulum swing the other direction). How such positions are legitimized is also a matter of how parties or parliaments go about it. This cannot be done over night, but e.g. in sports, they need to keep an eye on up-and-coming, find and support talent. How come it works everywhere else, for super specialitzed jobs, but it's suddenly a big deal when it comes to parties. Of course, if the elites are lazy and do it poorly, they have the "legitimization/prejudice problem" which is just another subset of deliberate conservative incompetence, as to manufacture reasons against it (as with privatization, defund stuff, cripple things, then complain that the state shouldn't bother but the Free Hand Of Magic somehow fixes it).

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Emma Watson's tits are inspiring more headlines today, due to Beyonce fans holding a grudge against Emma Watson's complaints-- about Beyonce showing her body in music videos...

"“On the one hand she [Beyonce] is putting herself in a category of a feminist, this very strong woman - and she had that beautiful speech by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie in one of her songs – but then the camera, it felt very male, such a male voyeuristic experience of her and I just wondered if you had thought about that?” --Emma Watson

Beyonce should be more like Emma Watson, incorporating more feminism into her entertainment career:

Emma Watson's feminist film career, LA Times:

"Watson's character in Sophia Coppola's "The Bling Ring" was a total turnaround from Hermione: She played Nicki Moore, a fame-obsessed teen who helped burgle a string of celebrity homes in the Hollywood Hills.

As Watson told British GQ, "When I read the script and I realized that essentially it was a meditation on fame and what it's become to our society, I had to do it." She added, "The character is everything that I felt strongly against — she's superficial, materialistic, vain, amoral. She's all of these things and I realized that I hated her. How do you play someone you hate? But I found it really interesting and it gave me a whole new insight into what my job, or my role as an actress, could be."

Even "Noah," the Biblical extravaganza in which Watson plays a supporting role, saw her tackle surprisingly feminist concerns. Watson played Ila, a young orphan rescued by Russell Crowe's Noah and his family. Watson's character has a crisis of conscience over marrying one of Noah's sons when she is in fact infertile — which, if it's not quite leaning in, certainly offered a thoughtful and independent look at the issue of reproductive rights in an era long before the term (or, for that matter, the English language) came into being."

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Quotas only seem to work if they are used for a short period and rapidly phased out. If the only reason a population continues to thrive is quotas then either the population is poorly suited for that position or there is an endemic problem in the whole system. Continued use of quotas seem to result in square pegs being rammed into round holes.

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Remember the U.N also hosted Anita Sarkeesian and Zoë Quinn.

And put Saudi Arabia at the head of the Human Rights Council.

Go fucking figure.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Remember the U.N also hosted Anita Sarkeesian and Zoë Quinn.

And put Saudi Arabia at the head of the Human Rights Council.

Go fucking figure.
You forgot Wonder Woman.

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I wonder if she can explain the difference between an idle trust fund baby and someone whose subsistence and discretionary funds are rewards for getting out of bed.

I'm sure she could if there wasn't an angry Peez harrumphing all over the place every time you ask.

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Let's see what the Feminists at Jezebel are saying about Emma Watson choosing to pose topless...
"Feminism is about giving women choice."

Christ, this fucking brand of Feminism needs to die already.
That's a disappointing and simplistic definition born from pirviledge.

Choices are never free or not part of a larger race, class, gender etc. dynamic. Feminist can deconstruct all of that. To go with "its about choice" is superficial.
I don't think I can ever hear the word "great" in any context ever again and think of anything but Trump. Even boobs. Ugh.

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Ape+lust wrote:I wonder if she can explain the difference between an idle trust fund baby and someone whose subsistence and discretionary funds are rewards for getting out of bed.

I'm sure she could if there wasn't an angry Peez harrumphing all over the place every time you ask.

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gurugeorge wrote:
Again, the thing I'm finding quite ironic about this, is that the evidence that Mark Levin pieced together is partly taken from the mainstream media's very own crowing about "inside sources" from the spy world over the past few months.

And yet none of the evidence has amounted to anything solid ...

And now, suddenly, apparently there wasn't any spying going on after all, oh no ... :lol:
Mark Levin and Trump claimed that Trump Tower had been wiretapped. Media reports showed information taken from the monitoring of the Russian ambassador's phone, not from wiretaps on Trump or his supporters.
The evidence showed that, among other things Flynn and Sessions both lied about having contacts. That's so far, there may be more out there. Of course that is what "the mainstream media" says so we can't believe it. So far the real media like Alex Jones, Russia Today, David Seaman, and the Trump News Network haven't confirmed them so they must not be true. :P

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Remember the U.N also hosted Anita Sarkeesian and Zoë Quinn.

And put Saudi Arabia at the head of the Human Rights Council.

Go fucking figure.
Yeah, that's part of my beef with Emma Watson, too. All glitz and glamour but beyond that nothing really productive, just a lot of whining, complaining about trivial issues which take up valuable time and money and political posturing which refuses to acknowledge un-PC realities (like the effects of islamic tradition on abuse of women).

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Ape+lust wrote:I wonder if she can explain the difference between an idle trust fund baby and someone whose subsistence and discretionary funds are rewards for getting out of bed.

I'm sure she could if there wasn't an angry Peez harrumphing all over the place every time you ask.

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I suspect my mortgage payment and my BMW payment together is less than her apartment.

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I'm not always sure about the accuracy of Pakman's reports. This blurb should be pretty easy to prove or disprove though.
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Before there was Fake News there were Fake Jews:
Revelation 3:9

I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.
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I'm travelling, and many many many pages behind, but just wanted to drop this here. The Rubber Bandits, Black Man:

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Aneris wrote:
Intersectionalists don't want this, but that's hardly Emma Watson's concern, unless guilty-by-association via the word "feminism" is now acceptable. By 7:30 she says that she feels father's roles aren't valued enough. I thought this is also something MRA people wanted. Then she talks about mental illness of men,then about suicide of men... wait a minute... perhaps in addition to proposing "peeing on Quran", she first needs to join the "honey badger" club to be accepted? But I guess it's in the way for MRA to claim feminists never say anything about such issues. She returns to child-marriage of girls and education of girls in Africa (around min 11), consistent with the topics of her visits in the countries mentioned above. Her core message in that speech is about freedom, emancipation and education, that is Enlightenment by the book.
Do MRAs say this? Some might.

But I thought just as many if not more MRAs say that feminists pay lip service to these ideas and *then* say:

+ the cure to these things is more feminism "#HeForShe"
+ men's groups/centers/studies led by male studies theories (non-feminist theorists) should be shutdown
+ men's groups/centers/studies led by feminist theorists should created and funded
+ acting on these issues should take a back seat to more important issues because white male problems, amirite

In the meantime, what do feminists say about:

+ custody bias in courts
+ enforcing visitation
+ parental alienation
+ false accusation of rape
+ male stranger danger
+ increased male suicide rates
+ societal accepted dangers of male dominated jobs
+ decreased male enrollment in colleges
+ and systemic misandry in general

What feminists say about that is

+ patriarchy hurts men too!
+ and famously, "cry me a river" (yt link to big red reading Lindy West's list goes here)

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http://i.imgur.com/EGrNXpa.jpg

Aust Bureau of Statistics: purveyor of fake news?

What's the 101 on the wage gap? Does it exist but "because" or is there no gap or is it that people in shit jobs get the same but more women have shit jobs - "because" (ie a variation on the former).

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Ape+lust wrote:I wonder if she can explain the difference between an idle trust fund baby and someone whose subsistence and discretionary funds are rewards for getting out of bed.

I'm sure she could if there wasn't an angry Peez harrumphing all over the place every time you ask.

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Aneris wrote:
feathers wrote:
paddybrown wrote:Haven' much to say about the rest of your comment, but I wanted to address this. The fact that "social circles perpetuate themselves" is precisely why quotas are bad. If you introduce a quota for female representation, it will be filled by women from the inner circle, reducing the possibility for anyone outside that inner circle to get elected. It will also reduce respect for female politicians, who will be regarded as quota hires whether they benefited from a quota or not. Finally, it's rigging elections. Gender gerrymandering. The feeling that whichever way you vote you'll get the candidate the inner circle wants is how you end up with the likes of Trump.
Seeing the bold part through the other's eyes: if I were a woman or some minority sluiced into a job by some positive action program, I'd feel deeply uncomfortable. Even worse if you get promoted over possibly better-qualified colleagues; good luck trying to assert your authority in such a situation.
Social circles, as in "rich men who play golf and are into expensive cigars", not "Bob and his friends" (that would be something else, e.g. nepotism). There need to be some measure of equality because politicians decide over women, too, and it's not a matter of women merely running for office, because there is often (if not always) a selection, who can even participate. It's not actually decided by the people in an open for all democratic process. By the way, the same argument can be made about granting access to people from a different class into politics, where similar obstacles apply. For example, in Germany, professional politicians are suspiciously often lawyers, and they like and thus back each other. They share the same stable-smell, even if nobody is conciously keeping other demographics out. There's more a climate, manners, behaviours, unwritten rules, that tend to close such circles.
I don't know how things work in Germany, but in the UK politicians are also overwhelmingly lawyers. But it goes deeper than that. They're overwhelmingly lawyers who went to a small number of exclusive universities and a small number of exclusive private schools. It's not hard to find female lawyers from that class who can treat politics as their birthright just like the men.

It's got nothing to do with golf or cigars. It's about the composition of the ruling class. "Diversity" is used as a weapon to keep out the riff-raff, people like Jim Callaghan and John Major who became Prime Minister without having been to university, and reserving high office for people who knew each other at Oxford. It's not hard to find female Oxbridge-educated lawyers from well-to-do families. That's what quotas are for.

In the church I went to in my youth, the pastor was supported by a team of elders, who had to be male. The congregation was young and progressive, and pressured them to change this rule. Eventually they did, and appointed the first female elder - the pastor's wife. Likewise, when the Democratic Party tried to get the first female president of the United States elected, they chose a former president's wife, and when she lost, they floated the idea of running the last president's wife next time. Keep it in the inner circle. People see that and resent it.

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shoutinghorse wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:I wonder if she can explain the difference between an idle trust fund baby and someone whose subsistence and discretionary funds are rewards for getting out of bed.

I'm sure she could if there wasn't an angry Peez harrumphing all over the place every time you ask.

http://imgur.com/01meGXC.jpg
If the new BF pulled up in a shiny Beemer she'd have her surfboard strapped to the roof and racing toward Pacifica beach quicker than you could say feminism is cancer.
Totally not elitist:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... T_wmImBQqQ

I wonder if Adam's "accident" was passive aggression or a desperate attempt to opt out.

"There was no evidence of braking at the scene of the accident"

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Brive1987 wrote:i.imgur dot com/EGrNXpa.jpg

Aust Bureau of Statistics: purveyor of fake news?

What's the 101 on the wage gap? Does it exist but "because" or is there no gap or is it that people in shit jobs get the same but more women have shit jobs - "because" (ie a variation on the former).
The usual answer to that image in the US at least, is that what is measured is:

TOTAL $ EARNED BY WOMEN IN ALL THEIR JOBS
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TOTAL $ EARNED BY MEN IN ALL THEIR JOBS

Which doesn't correct for how many women have no jobs, or part time jobs, compared to men. And then on top of it, all the other things, like women working as low paid baristas earning less than men picking up trash for the city, or men on average working longer hours, or women willingly taking time off their jobs to have children, attend school functions, etc.

But that when all those factors are corrected for, the actual pay gap for the people working the same job is more like 5%.

There is a brand new Christina Hoff Sommers piece about this, I haven't read or watched it.

youtube dot com/watch?v=QcDrE5YvqTs

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