The Refuge of the Toads

#6481

[quote="comhcinc"]for those wanting to join there is about four of us. Pm me for a link.

ive got a house full of asleep people so Id have to whisper.

#6482

Billie from Ockham wrote:Did I miss much?

what was the last thing you can remember happening?

#6483

Brive1987 wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Did I miss much?
what was the last thing you can remember happening?

Her saying that she was 18.

#6484

free thoughtpolice wrote:Feminists just love making false rape claims- watch Jenny McDermott slander a fellow youtuber before it gets taken down.

God damn it.

I hope he fights back. I want SOMEONE to take one of these lying sacks of shit to court, and I will throw money at them to make it happen.

#6485

Brive1987 wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Did I miss much?
what was the last thing you can remember happening?

His last post was Friday February 12th. So just before the Sargon interview.

tl;dr - We found out that Dawkins was reinvited to the NCESS conference. less that 24 hours later Dawkins had a minor stroke, and had to cancel the next 5 months of talks, so he can't do it.

#6486

Billie from Ockham wrote:Did I miss much?

So much that posters have even lamented your passing.

#6487

Oh, and they are now accusing Michael Nugent of Trans-phobia because he wasn't editing his comment sections fast enough. It appears that the person accusing Michael of having trans-phobic comments on his blog could not communicate in sane-speak as to how the comments were trans-phobic.

#6488

OK, I see that Dawkins has a stroke and turned down the re-invitation. That must have been fun. (The reaction to the re-invite, not the stroke.)

#6489

screwtape wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:Did I miss much?
So much that posters have even lamented your passing.

That's sweet (even if false). I had a grant and two papers to finish.

#6490

Brive1987 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:for those wanting to join there is about four of us. Pm me for a link.

ive got a house full of asleep people so Id have to whisper.

Freezing drama - trying again

#6491

I'm not getting an invite for the google hangouts thing. If it's started can someone pm me an invite?>Thanks.

#6492

Just as a reminder, the current shitstorm at Nugents began when some gay guy was defending Islamists then flounced off in a huff.

#6493

I can't see me ever taking part in a real time video session but I'm really glad that kind of thing is happening.

#6494

Shatterface wrote:Just as a reminder, the current shitstorm at Nugents began when some gay guy was defending Islamists then flounced off in a huff.

If I were a gay base-jumper and I was sick of having to break into buildings, then I'd defend Islamists, too. Otherwise, it doesn't make a lot of sense. However, avoiding obvious baby-blood stains on your shirt would explain why a certain someone always wears red shirts.

#6495

jet_lagg wrote:I'd find it easier to laugh about this stuff if Nugent didn't take it seriously. The fact of the matter is that the man is doing actual work. Every time some maladjusted child decides to sling a borderline criminal accusation at him my mind flashes to one of the victories he played a part in in Ireland, and I think about the months being robbed from him that could have gone toward future victories. I wonder if the people behind it are too stupid to realize what they're doing or too evil to care.

It's the same with learning Dawkins took the NECSS disinvite to heart, that all the twitter drama actually stresses him. I'd really love to shake the shit out of an SJW and ask them if they think their contributions compare to Dawkins' or Nugent's, because mine sure as shit don't. So what gives? You say you care about an objective and then you do your very best to undermine it. Assholes or idiots? I don't know.

I can't laugh at any of this. It's funny when SJWs are just being stupid and making asses of themselves, but when they switch into "let's ruin someone's life" mode, my grin is gone. I'm seeing humanity at its ugliest, and it's painfully depressing. I might have to take a break from reading all this shit for a few days, because unlike SJWs I know that being this angry is not good for me. But Michael can't take a break. Armoured Skeptic can't take a break. And Dawkins is only getting a brief reprieve because he had a fucking stroke.

#6496

comhcinc wrote:Quick update. I am back home and ready for the chat. There are around 12 of us that want to be in it and there are 8 spots (not including myself) that can be added. The early birds will get the worms here and we can go as long as everyone likes. If someone drops out during the chat I can add others.

Send me a link

#6497

Is everyone in?

Not sure if my microphone on laptop is working.

Is there a chat log?

I'm in green

#6498

Testing. Testing. Is this thing on?

#6499

I listening to some of you talking to Sargon, but it's from a week ago, yes?

#6500

Sunder wrote:
jet_lagg wrote:I'd find it easier to laugh about this stuff if Nugent didn't take it seriously. The fact of the matter is that the man is doing actual work. Every time some maladjusted child decides to sling a borderline criminal accusation at him my mind flashes to one of the victories he played a part in in Ireland, and I think about the months being robbed from him that could have gone toward future victories. I wonder if the people behind it are too stupid to realize what they're doing or too evil to care.

It's the same with learning Dawkins took the NECSS disinvite to heart, that all the twitter drama actually stresses him. I'd really love to shake the shit out of an SJW and ask them if they think their contributions compare to Dawkins' or Nugent's, because mine sure as shit don't. So what gives? You say you care about an objective and then you do your very best to undermine it. Assholes or idiots? I don't know.
I can't laugh at any of this. It's funny when SJWs are just being stupid and making asses of themselves, but when they switch into "let's ruin someone's life" mode, my grin is gone. I'm seeing humanity at its ugliest, and it's painfully depressing. I might have to take a break from reading all this shit for a few days, because unlike SJWs I know that being this angry is not good for me. But Michael can't take a break. Armoured Skeptic can't take a break. And Dawkins is only getting a brief reprieve because he had a fucking stroke.

Most of us take our 'walk away from it privilege' for granted.

Nobody likes being misrepresented but I'm not a public figure and I can just shrug off shit I don't like.

It pisses me off more when people go after people like Nugent or Dawkins. They can be hurt. Fame isn't always a privilege, sometimes it's a disadvantage.

#6501

feathers wrote:
ffs wrote:
Of course the Wikipedia article on Irigaray has been carefully cleaned from this notable factlet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luce_Irigaray

Just recently? I looked in there the other day and thought I saw it

#6502

Sunder wrote:

And Dawkins is only getting a brief reprieve because he had a fucking stroke.

Actually, he's not. I'd say just read Pharyngula but it isn't worth bothering with, it's just a rerun of their standard hatefest.

#6503

Emery Emery De-platformed from Gateway To Reason

#6504

I know you are all talking about me.

#6505

I just meant he has a very legitimate excuse to take a break and convalesce at home, and not feel pressured by his position to respond to their poo-flinging.

Of course I'd never expect the usual suspects to actually behave like decent adults for once.

#6506

If someone smears Dawkins on Atheism+ is it still libel when there's no one there to hear it?

#6507

Shatterface wrote:I know you are all talking about me.

You are invisible to me

#6508

TRGRD wrote:
feathers wrote:
Tigzy wrote:What the merry fuck is a 'queer shapeshifter'?
http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/ ... 076f80.jpg
DS9 best star trek

That's a welch summons if ever there was one

#6509

ffs wrote:
TRGRD wrote:
feathers wrote:http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/ ... 076f80.jpg
DS9 best star trek
That's a welch summons if ever there was one

That's racist. [DING]

#6510

welch wrote:
TRGRD wrote:
feathers wrote: http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/ ... 076f80.jpg
DS9 best star trek
Fuck. Yeah.

Obviously I should have scrolled down

#6511

Dan wrote:Emery Emery De-platformed from Gateway To Reason

Woah. Déjà vu.

#6512

Dan wrote:Emery Emery De-platformed from Gateway To Reason

I am assuming that is satire, but I have trouble putting it into context.

#6513

comhcinc wrote:Quick update. I am back home and ready for the chat. There are around 12 of us that want to be in it and there are 8 spots (not including myself) that can be added. The early birds will get the worms here and we can go as long as everyone likes. If someone drops out during the chat I can add others.

I'll have to drop. Five days of laryngitis, no voice at all. For some reason, I thought there was a typing option as well on Google Chat. Also pneumonia, which reduces me to wheezing and hacking noises unpleasant to the ear. Poor me, lucky you all.

#6514

deLurch wrote:
Dan wrote:Emery Emery De-platformed from Gateway To Reason

I am assuming that is satire, but I have trouble putting it into context.

I seems real to me

#6515

Comment from Popehat on this subject: https://popehat.com/2016/02/19/williams ... tect-them/

Castaigne says
FEBRUARY 19, 2016 AT 11:46 AM

@Ken White:
I really can't tell if you are simply trolling at this point, and can't be bothered to parse it out.
I'm being serious. It's very simple if you start with two premises:
1) The ends justify the means.
2) All things are equal and so should be treated the same way. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. (Essentially, a ceteris paribus assumption.)

This has to be a Steersman sock surely? :think:

#6516

OK. It appears to be in response to this.

Gateway to Reason has withdrawn its invitation to Emery Emery to participate at Gateway to Reason convention 2016. We have taken this action in response to Mr. Emery's approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at Gateway to Reason. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of G2R or its sponsoring organizations.
Gateway to Reason Team

I don't see any evidence yet that Emery Emery was ever on the speaker list. My initial impression is that both Gateway to Reason, and Emery are both satirizing the NCESS situation.

#6517

the text on both sides seem very ...... familiar

#6518

OK. Lanyard does show Emery as having been on the 2016 speaker list.
http://lanyrd.com/2016/g2r2016/

And Emery does not show up on their website's current website speaker's list.
http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speakers-page-1.html

But given that Gateway to Reason's statement mirror's NCESS statement, and Emery's statement is a near identical copy of Dawkins response. It still makes me feel like they are both satirizing the NECSS situation. Or even worse, it is a poor taste publicity stunt for Gateway to Reason.

#6519

deLurch wrote:OK. It appears to be in response to this.

Gateway to Reason has withdrawn its invitation to Emery Emery to participate at Gateway to Reason convention 2016. We have taken this action in response to Mr. Emery's approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at Gateway to Reason. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of G2R or its sponsoring organizations.
Gateway to Reason Team
I don't see any evidence yet that Emery Emery was ever on the speaker list. My initial impression is that both Gateway to Reason, and Emery are both satirizing the NCESS situation.

Hilarious if true. Disturbing if not.

#6520

deLurch wrote:OK. It appears to be in response to this.

Gateway to Reason has withdrawn its invitation to Emery Emery to participate at Gateway to Reason convention 2016. We have taken this action in response to Mr. Emery's approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at Gateway to Reason. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of G2R or its sponsoring organizations.
Gateway to Reason Team
I don't see any evidence yet that Emery Emery was ever on the speaker list. My initial impression is that both Gateway to Reason, and Emery are both satirizing the NCESS situation.

http://www.freezepage.com/1456001793WNHEAFTUTF

http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speaker-line-up.html

GTR Emery.png: (1.24 MiB) Downloaded 214 times

#6521

Dan wrote:
deLurch wrote:OK. It appears to be in response to this.

Gateway to Reason has withdrawn its invitation to Emery Emery to participate at Gateway to Reason convention 2016. We have taken this action in response to Mr. Emery's approving re-tweet of a highly offensive video.
We believe strongly in freedom of speech and freedom to express unpopular, and even offensive, views. However, unnecessarily divisive, counterproductive, and even hateful speech runs contrary to our mission and the environment we wish to foster at Gateway to Reason. The sentiments expressed in the video do not represent the values of G2R or its sponsoring organizations.
Gateway to Reason Team
I don't see any evidence yet that Emery Emery was ever on the speaker list. My initial impression is that both Gateway to Reason, and Emery are both satirizing the NCESS situation.
http://www.freezepage.com/1456001793WNHEAFTUTF

http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speaker-line-up.html

GTR Emery.png

Speakers from first GTR

http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speakers-page-1.html

http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speakers-page-2.html

#6522

HunnyBunny wrote:
Stout wrote:Hey it looks like the "pitters really got that Rowe dude's goat.

I mean....somebody created this.

https://twitter.com/TiarnaAindiach
That was awful. If they are going to do a parody account, they could at least try to make it humourous or vaguely witty. 1/10, please leave this to someone with an IQ over 75 next time.

I suspect that someone is extremely butthurt.

#6523

deLurch wrote:OK. Lanyard does show Emery as having been on the 2016 speaker list.
http://lanyrd.com/2016/g2r2016/

And Emery does not show up on their website's current website speaker's list.
http://www.gatewaytoreason.com/speakers-page-1.html

But given that Gateway to Reason's statement mirror's NCESS statement, and Emery's statement is a near identical copy of Dawkins response. It still makes me feel like they are both satirizing the NECSS situation. Or even worse, it is a poor taste publicity stunt for Gateway to Reason.

That Thom True dickhead is FTB SJW all the way. I don't think Emery is at all. I have no idea of the truth of the situation, but one decent guess is that Thom disinvited Emery and Emery is fucking with him.

But who knows?

#6524

Malky wrote:Comment from Popehat on this subject: https://popehat.com/2016/02/19/williams ... tect-them/

Castaigne says
FEBRUARY 19, 2016 AT 11:46 AM

@Ken White:
I really can't tell if you are simply trolling at this point, and can't be bothered to parse it out.
I'm being serious. It's very simple if you start with two premises:
1) The ends justify the means.
2) All things are equal and so should be treated the same way. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. (Essentially, a ceteris paribus assumption.)

This has to be a Steersman sock surely? :think:

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and all that, although I think transwomen have gone off the deep end, on that point at least.

In any case, it ain't me, and I kind of think they're barking up the wrong tree. For one thing, I think this comment of theirs doesn't hold much if any water:

That's primarily because I apply Occam's Razor to everything. "All things being equal" and then I add "And all things ARE equal".

So two is equal to three? Does not compute. And, along a related line, a tweet exchange I had with that fake Michael Nugent account:

#6525

Malky wrote:Comment from Popehat on this subject: https://popehat.com/2016/02/19/williams ... tect-them/

Castaigne says
FEBRUARY 19, 2016 AT 11:46 AM

@Ken White:
I really can't tell if you are simply trolling at this point, and can't be bothered to parse it out.
I'm being serious. It's very simple if you start with two premises:
1) The ends justify the means.
2) All things are equal and so should be treated the same way. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. (Essentially, a ceteris paribus assumption.)

This has to be a Steersman sock surely? :think:

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and all that, although I think transwomen have gone off the deep end, on that point at least.

In any case, it ain't me, and I kind of think they're barking up the wrong tree. For one thing, I think this comment of theirs doesn't hold much if any water:

That's primarily because I apply Occam's Razor to everything. "All things being equal" and then I add "And all things ARE equal".

So two is equal to three? Does not compute. And, along a related line, a tweet exchange I had with that fake Michael Nugent account:

#6526

Chekc this shit out AHAHHAHA

http://i66.tinypic.com/5l114x.jpg

This may be the most retarded thing I've ever seen

#6527

At least this morning

This is the SJW shit from my Facebook

OK going to buy things now

#6528

Need to add "passive aggressive pyramids" to the list

#6529

rayshul wrote:Chekc this shit out AHAHHAHA

[.img]http://i66.tinypic.com/5l114x.jpg[/img]

This may be the most retarded thing I've ever seen

Indeed. Mother's milk is the direct cause for the inevitable result of being a down-and-out drunk on skid road; taking an aspirin will inevitably lead to mainlining heroin; pointing to one transwoman person raping a woman is prima facie evidence of claiming that all transwomen intend to do that and, consequently, of hate speech and transphobia. One can hardly but conclude that more than a few SJWs need remedial lessons in logic, critical thinking, and syntax.

#6530

The google hangout was cool but personally frustrating. We live in a place that is an echo chamber and doesn't wake up till 9.30-10.00am on Sundays. So I got to say hello and listen rather than jump in and be inappropriate as is my wont.

Last week I anticipated this and went offsite. In hindsight maybe I should have left today's spot open to another player. :?

But well done Com and all the others - nice to meet you :D

#6531

Steersman wrote:
Malky wrote:Comment from Popehat on this subject: https://popehat.com/2016/02/19/williams ... tect-them/

Castaigne says
FEBRUARY 19, 2016 AT 11:46 AM

@Ken White:
I really can't tell if you are simply trolling at this point, and can't be bothered to parse it out.
I'm being serious. It's very simple if you start with two premises:
1) The ends justify the means.
2) All things are equal and so should be treated the same way. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. (Essentially, a ceteris paribus assumption.)

This has to be a Steersman sock surely? :think:
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and all that, although I think transwomen have gone off the deep end, on that point at least.

In any case, it ain't me, and I kind of think they're barking up the wrong tree. For one thing, I think this comment of theirs doesn't hold much if any water:
That's primarily because I apply Occam's Razor to everything. "All things being equal" and then I add "And all things ARE equal".
So two is equal to three? Does not compute. And, along a related line, a tweet exchange I had with that fake Michael Nugent account:

Have my doubts as not only does he use similar phrass to you he goes on and on and on and on and on and on etc. like you :whistle:

#6532

rayshul wrote:Chekc this shit out AHAHHAHA

http://i66.tinypic.com/5l114x.jpg

This may be the most retarded thing I've ever seen

There's a definite trend among SJWs, whereby they think drawing a shitty cartoon to convey their shitty illogic will somehow make it less shitty.

#6533

Once you could buy a Surly that signalled you were among the "inside" of insiders.

http://imgur.com/hkBC3b8.jpg

Over time, the little critter became problematic. Rape and rectal injury was politically incorrect. He had to go.

But, wait... what do you get when a porcupine turns its jacket inside-out?

http://imgur.com/wRTIX5u.jpg

He never left. Clever girl, Amy.

http://imgur.com/KPMYq3H.jpg

https://www.etsy.com/listing/163338713/ ... klace-with

#6534

Cute - Brony has responded to Perrott after I pointed out her two faced and less than charitable views espoused over at FtB. Somehow shit thinks they can logic themselves out the bind of having called their host a privileged coward behind their back.

As a fall back they blame it on their tourettes.

http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/20 ... ntroversy/

http://i.imgur.com/VwjCWAm.png

#6535

That's a new level of ugly

#6536

welch wrote:
NoGodsEver wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:I don't think I have the physical constitution for traumas. A terrible thing just happened and I all but lost control of my bowels. A second later and I'd have shit my pants. Weird sensation.
Just put Steersman on ignore like everyone else.
I don't. I've a $20 bet that one day he'll have an original thought.

Nothing new under the sun and all that. Or, at the risk of bringing out the mob with torches & pitchforks, and as Pigliucci is fond of noting, most if not all of modern philosophy is just footnotes to Plato.

However, if you'd get your head out of your arse and actually give some thought to what I'm saying then you might have more credibility - and be able to collect on your bet. For instance, I wonder if you ever took a close look at my post here [#33966] which illustrates, I think and as I suggested in earlier posts on the same topic, the statistical technique of principal components analysis. And my (ahem) brilliant idea being that using binary weighting is somewhat more useful than the standard two-dimensional X-Y plot which is basically limited to two components. Maybe the idea doesn't hold a lot of water, or it is already a standard technique - though I haven't seen anybody using it, but a Twitter exchange I had with some researcher in, I think, evo-psych didn't shoot the idea down in flames. I await your, no doubt cogent and detailed, refutation of it.

#6537

Brive1987 wrote:Cute - Brony has responded to Perrott after I pointed out her two faced and less than charitable views espoused over at FtB. Somehow shit thinks they can logic themselves out the bind of having called their host a privileged coward behind their back.

As a fall back they blame it on their tourettes.

http://sciblogs.co.nz/open-parachute/20 ... ntroversy/

http://i.imgur.com/VwjCWAm.png

Let me see if I get this straight. This Hordelet expects "Tourette's" to excuse xir from criticism of someone else on another web site? So why are they mad at Dawkins or anyone else? Sounds like ableism to me.

#6538

rayshul wrote:That's a new level of ugly

McDermott pedo/rape accusations, Gateway to Reason Disinvite, or the porcupine surly?

#6539

rayshul wrote:That's a new level of ugly

McDermott pedo/rape accusations, Gateway to Reason Disinvite, or the porcupine surly?

#6540

She saw me live.....