The Refuge of the Toads

[Gumby]

I thought the movie, Moon, was problematic.

There was some very bad science, and if I recall correctly (it's been rather a long time since I saw it), one rather large plot gap.

Also, it was dull. Very dull. I love Rockwell, and I thought the overall plot was interesting, but the movie itself was dull.

I gave it 2 out of 5 stars ... maybe 2 and a half. :bjarte:

I saw it once, a few years back. It was just kinda "meh" for me, neither good nor bad.. I have always meant to give it another view for the sake of fairness, but haven't yet. Same for District 9, which I did not like much at all but many people ooh and ahh over.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Morning, SlymePit. Just wanted to say that this place looks pretty amazing and that I was totally sold on it when I started listening to Sargon's stream. It's basically the same kind of humorous and witty counterculture to crazy authoritarians that GamerGate is, which makes sense considering that exact same (attempts at) smear tactics brought this place into existence. After I found ArmouredSkeptic through (again) Sargon, I've started really getting into the Skeptic/Atheist community and subscribing to the big (and some smaller) skeptic YouTubers, so this place will be a great addition to that.

Welcome. I see you've had your links. Clarence will be along shortly with a ballgag and a table tennis bat.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Myers creepy?
Say it aint so!

Yeah she says it's almost cult-like.

Haha! Meyers is very close to cult-like status. Only one letter away, in fact.

[Spike13]

It sounds counter-intuitive but from a strategic point of view it really is. A well-trained tank crew is worth far more than the tank itself in wartime, because it takes way longer to train a new crew than build a new tank.

Don't get me wrong, by comparison it was a weak sister, but, it did do what was required.
The German tanks were better, but in the end they ended up out of fuel and abandoned or burning wrecks after being swarmed. The "piece of shit" as some call it ended rolling all over western Germany.

Yea! More tank talk!

[Lsuoma]

I'd love a shirt.

I'm tracking through PMs.

[TRGRD]

Myers creepy?
Say it aint so!

Yeah she says it's almost cult-like.

Haha! Meyers is very close to cult-like status. Only one letter away, in fact.

There is pretty much a SOCJUS cult on campus. They actively try to recruit and indoctrinate people, it's fucking disgusting. The faculty is complicit in it too, my Sociology 101 class was basically Gender Studies by another name, the whole thing was privilege theory and intersectionality.

[RonSwanson]

Wonder how the Sam Harris/Maryam Namazie interview went.

[TRGRD]

It sounds counter-intuitive but from a strategic point of view it really is. A well-trained tank crew is worth far more than the tank itself in wartime, because it takes way longer to train a new crew than build a new tank.

Don't get me wrong, by comparison it was a weak sister, but, it did do what was required.
The German tanks were better, but in the end they ended up out of fuel and abandoned or burning wrecks after being swarmed. The "piece of shit" as some call it ended rolling all over western Germany.

Yea! More tank talk!

WWII was fought and won in the homefront industry. The US saved the entire world essentially by just outproducing the Nazis and Japanese by ridiculous margins. For example, we made more heavy bombers in one month than the Japanese produced throughout the entire war. Even the Russians were dependent on US industry to keep their logistics intact; we essentially subsidized the Russian Military by giving them thousands of trucks so that they could spend more on tanks.

Tbh my primary obsession is obscure small arms and infantry tactics, but I have a basic knowledge of armor, especially in WWII.

[Spike13]

Apparently she has never heard of seminal fluid.
And opposed to menstral fluid which is absorbed and discarded, men seem to like spraying their fluid everywhere. I would think that would increase the interest in fluid mechanics...

[Spike13]

It sounds counter-intuitive but from a strategic point of view it really is. A well-trained tank crew is worth far more than the tank itself in wartime, because it takes way longer to train a new crew than build a new tank.

Don't get me wrong, by comparison it was a weak sister, but, it did do what was required.
The German tanks were better, but in the end they ended up out of fuel and abandoned or burning wrecks after being swarmed. The "piece of shit" as some call it ended rolling all over western Germany.

Yea! More tank talk!

WWII was fought and won in the homefront industry. The US saved the entire world essentially by just outproducing the Nazis and Japanese by ridiculous margins. For example, we made more heavy bombers in one month than the Japanese produced throughout the entire war. Even the Russians were dependent on US industry to keep their logistics intact; we essentially subsidized the Russian Military by giving them thousands of trucks so that they could spend more on tanks.

Tbh my primary obsession is obscure small arms and infantry tactics, but I have a basic knowledge of armor, especially in WWII.

I remember reading one Russian field Marshall calling the deuce and a half ( Dodge I believe) the most important vehicle in the war.

[TheMudbrooker]

It sounds counter-intuitive but from a strategic point of view it really is. A well-trained tank crew is worth far more than the tank itself in wartime, because it takes way longer to train a new crew than build a new tank.

Don't get me wrong, by comparison it was a weak sister, but, it did do what was required.
The German tanks were better, but in the end they ended up out of fuel and abandoned or burning wrecks after being swarmed. The "piece of shit" as some call it ended rolling all over western Germany.

Yea! More tank talk!

WWII was fought and won in the homefront industry. The US saved the entire world essentially by just outproducing the Nazis and Japanese by ridiculous margins. For example, we made more heavy bombers in one month than the Japanese produced throughout the entire war. Even the Russians were dependent on US industry to keep their logistics intact; we essentially subsidized the Russian Military by giving them thousands of trucks so that they could spend more on tanks.

Tbh my primary obsession is obscure small arms and infantry tactics, but I have a basic knowledge of armor, especially in WWII.

If you're interested in obscure small arms (from pistols up to small artillery actually) check out a youtube channel called Forgotten Weapons. Fascinating stuff, and he posts about twice a week.

[youtube]LUeYVcredOc[/youtube]

[ffs]

God this Nugent situation just got way worse.

I did love this bit from Derek Walsh:

Sarah Malone:

Yeah transgender people often

No no no no no. Not “transgender people often”.

Not “transgender people”, just Aidan Rowe.

Not “often”, just in this particular instance.

Do you see the difference? Do you see why criticism of one person’s actions is not a criticism of the entirety of behaviour of a whole class of people? Do you see why one person’s behaviour can’t be excused, ignored or defended by appealing to the idea that the sort of person they are is unlikely to behave in such a way?
I suspect you don’t, and I believe it’s the same sort of category error that began this whole silly affair.

Well here's his problem -

On Wednesday Jane Donnelly and I were at a conference in Limerick about inter-belief dialogue,

Limericks are full of transgressive jokes and are deeply problematic

The sheer level of obtuseness of Aidan Rowe should be considered a dangerous substance and controlled by the DEA

[TRGRD]

WWII was fought and won in the homefront industry. The US saved the entire world essentially by just outproducing the Nazis and Japanese by ridiculous margins. For example, we made more heavy bombers in one month than the Japanese produced throughout the entire war. Even the Russians were dependent on US industry to keep their logistics intact; we essentially subsidized the Russian Military by giving them thousands of trucks so that they could spend more on tanks.

Tbh my primary obsession is obscure small arms and infantry tactics, but I have a basic knowledge of armor, especially in WWII.

I remember reading one Russian field Marshall calling the deuce and a half ( Dodge I believe) the most important vehicle in the war.

Yep. Soviets had shit logistics before they started getting Dodges.

WWII was fought and won in the homefront industry. The US saved the entire world essentially by just outproducing the Nazis and Japanese by ridiculous margins. For example, we made more heavy bombers in one month than the Japanese produced throughout the entire war. Even the Russians were dependent on US industry to keep their logistics intact; we essentially subsidized the Russian Military by giving them thousands of trucks so that they could spend more on tanks.

Tbh my primary obsession is obscure small arms and infantry tactics, but I have a basic knowledge of armor, especially in WWII.

If you're interested in obscure small arms (from pistols up to small artillery actually) check out a youtube channel called Forgotten Weapons. Fascinating stuff, and he posts about twice a week.

[youtube]LUeYVcredOc[/youtube]

The funny thing is, I'm literally watching one of his videos right now. Based Ian is the best guntuber.

[Old_ones]

So where the fuck are my hugs? :( :(

Pounce hug!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/avp ... 0712194332

[Guest_0048cc29]

[youtube]LUeYVcredOc[/youtube]

Looks like some asshole Nazi could use two of those at a time, one in each hand.

[Oglebart]

I browse over at Kiwi Farms a bit, as do a few other pitters I believe. There is no doubt that some of the stuff there borders on the obsessive and creepy at times, but I have found some of the threads fascinating reading at times. This little graphic collection of the timeline of Brianna Wu's endless delaying of her game Revolution 60 caught my eye, along the lines of Brive's excellent timelines.

As the say often over there "Where's the fucking game Wu?" lol

[Michael J]

Curious about the details behind some of Bernie Sanders' ideas, I took a gander at his website.

I was surprised to see both the 78c-on-the-dollar assertion in there, and a number of SocJus talking points.

I like Bernie; he seems like a sensible guy, but this disappoints me. I would worry not so much about Sanders himself, but some of the loony fringe he'll give license to.

No easy choices this election.

Got a bad feeling that a Bernie or Hillary win 16' will translate into a republican majority in 18'
( similar to Clinton 92' Gingrich congress in 94')

Might just be better to elect a moderate republican and hope for some new blood in 20'

I think that the Republicans are pretty much unelectable at the presidential level. To get past the primaries they have to have policies that the majority of the Americans wont wear in the main election. In the congress/senate, gerrymandering and voter id laws have made it difficult for the democrats to get a majority.

I think that the Republicans best chance is this election because Clinton is deeply disliked by a lot of people. If Sanders wins more delegates than Clinton but the super-delegates back Clinton. I think a lot of Democrat's wont vote out of disgust.

[dogen]

I thought the movie, Moon, was problematic.

There was some very bad science, and if I recall correctly (it's been rather a long time since I saw it), one rather large plot gap.

Also, it was dull. Very dull. I love Rockwell, and I thought the overall plot was interesting, but the movie itself was dull.

I gave it 2 out of 5 stars ... maybe 2 and a half. :bjarte:

Which science was especially bad? And what was the plot gap (PM if worried about spoilers). Am keen to know!

[Keating]

I just want America to be great again.

[deLurch]

I'd love a shirt.

Where would we wear it?

[Brive1987]

I thought the movie, Moon, was problematic.

There was some very bad science, and if I recall correctly (it's been rather a long time since I saw it), one rather large plot gap.

Also, it was dull. Very dull. I love Rockwell, and I thought the overall plot was interesting, but the movie itself was dull.

I gave it 2 out of 5 stars ... maybe 2 and a half. :bjarte:

I saw it once, a few years back. It was just kinda "meh" for me, neither good nor bad.. I have always meant to give it another view for the sake of fairness, but haven't yet. Same for District 9, which I did not like much at all but many people ooh and ahh over.

I think I liked it at the time. However given I just spent the last 15 mins confusing it with Apollo 17, maybe it didn't make such a big impression after all.

[Bourne Skeptic]

Chris Kluwe fail. :burn: :burn:

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footba ... ail-021916

[Brive1987]

I did enjoy the Astronauts Wife the first time, in the cinema with zero expectation.

[John Greg]

dogen said:

Which science was especially bad? And what was the plot gap (PM if worried about spoilers). Am keen to know!

Well, at the time I saw it, I think I saw 5 or 6 Bad Science bits, but now I only remember two:

1. Clones, if and when they happen, will not be identical -- well, they can be identical in appearance, but they absolutely will not be identical in personality and behaviour. For clones to be identical in personality and behaviour, two impossible things would have to happen:

1a. Brains would have to be not only mostly not plastic and mostly not blank slates, but absolutely not at all plastic and not at all blank slates; brains, wherein our personality and behaviours are formed/created/developed, would have to be perfectly complete and fully developed during gestation. And obviously that's not the case.

1b. The living experience (or exprience and knowledge gained after waking), in even the smallest random detail, would have to be 100% the same, including any and all spontaneous random events, to create identical personality and behaviour.

2. The acceleration visually implied to the spaceship returning to Earth (when it leaves the Moon) appears to be so great as to crush any living tissue into jelly paste.

I cannot remember the plot gap now; it's been too long since I saw the movie. I just remember that at the time I saw it, somewhere near the end, I went "Ah, c'mon! That's a giant plot gap". Or, you know, something to that effect. :whistle:

[Gumby]

I just want America to be great again.

Well, it won't return to greatness by electing someone president. Doesn't matter who is running - America's problems are too great, presidents are too impotent, and we're too politically polarized. Voters are for the most part turned off by the status quo, which is what everyone but the (hopefully) unelectableTrump represents. Every election we elect or re-elect some promise-making babbling clone who in the long run does no real good for the U.S. Democrats, Republicans, it really doesn't matter, despite what fans of particular candidates say. They all feed at the same trough. These days it's about holding your nose and voting for the candidate you think will do the least damage. Hardly an inspiring state of affairs, and I really doubt things will improve.

[Brive1987]

Nice article: http://helensatheistblogs.blogspot.com/ ... t.html?m=1

Liberal feminist aims gradually shifted from the position:

"Everyone deserves human rights and equality, and feminism focuses on achieving them for women."

to

"Individuals and groups of all sexes, races, religions and sexualities have their own truths, norms and values. All truths, cultural norms and moral values are equal. Those of white, western, heterosexual men have unfairly dominated in the past so now they and all their ideas must be set aside for marginalised groups."

Liberal feminism had shifted from the universality of equal human rights to identity politics. No longer were ideas valued on their merit but on the identity of the speaker and this was multifaceted, incorporating sex, gender identity, race, religion, sexuality and physical ability. The value of an identity in social justice terms is dependent on its degree of marginalisation, and these stack up and vie for primacy. This is where liberal feminism went so badly wrong. When post-colonial guilt fought with feminism, feminism lost. When it fought with LGBT rights, they lost too.

[Gumby]

I think I liked it at the time. However given I just spent the last 15 mins confusing it with Apollo 17, maybe it didn't make such a big impression after all.

I think you mean Apollo 18, which I haven't seen but now plan to get now that you reminded me of its existence :)

[Brive1987]

Check out Ashling O'Brien's (Atheist Ireland) comment #1

Helen, thank you for putting into words what I have been thinking get and feeling. As a feminist I've been called a rape apologists a rape enablerand a lying wanker. I don'the know if you are aware of the smearing campaign against Michael Nugent from Atheist Ireland, but I think this is a perfect example of what you are explaining here. However, I will continue to call myself a feminist, I won'the let them take that from me

[HunnyBunny]

I'd love a shirt.

Where would we wear it?

I plan on wearing mine to the Sceptics in the Pub meetings here in Hong Kong. The ones whose last invited guest was Rebecca Watson. I have attended a couple, things are very tame but occasionally an American SJW view rears its ugly head.

I may also take it to France and garden in it. We have a number of local hunt groups tracking wild boar around us, I'm sure Nugent Red will be a useful 'Don't Shoot Me' aid when I'm planting bluebells in the woods.

[Shatterface]

Clones always seem to be a problem in SF. From the moment cells start to divide and differentiate there are epigenetic changes. When you insert the nucleus of a somatic cell into an ovum those changes are stripped out so the clone would not develop in exactly the same way. The clone would be very like the original but no more identical than an 'identical' twin.

[welch]

Airbrush, implants -- you could still land a Sikorsky on it.

Nicki-Minaj-Anaconda-2014.png

Nicki-Minaj-bath.jpg

I'm confused as to why people care about the reality. What, one of us is going to be banging her sometimes soon? I'm jes' peachy with whatever it is i'm seeing of her.

[Brive1987]

I think I liked it at the time. However given I just spent the last 15 mins confusing it with Apollo 17, maybe it didn't make such a big impression after all.

I think you mean Apollo 18, which I haven't seen but now plan to get now that you reminded me of its existence :)

Ah yes my mistake. :oops:

Ta.

[Shatterface]

Airbrush, implants -- you could still land a Sikorsky on it.

Nicki-Minaj-Anaconda-2014.png

Nicki-Minaj-bath.jpg

I'm confused as to why people care about the reality. What, one of us is going to be banging her sometimes soon? I'm jes' peachy with whatever it is i'm seeing of her.

I remember a friend of mine getting upset back in the Nineties when he discovered Jodie Foster was gay so he had less chance of banging her.

[Guest_0048cc29]

Airbrush, implants -- you could still land a Sikorsky on it.

Nicki-Minaj-Anaconda-2014.png

Nicki-Minaj-bath.jpg

I'm confused as to why people care about the reality. What, one of us is going to be banging her sometimes soon? I'm jes' peachy with whatever it is i'm seeing of her.

[youtube]Z7BuQFUhsRM[/youtube]

You're a skeptic, she's a poseur!!!

[tina]

The sheer level of obtuseness of Aidan Rowe should be considered a dangerous substance and controlled by the DEA

I know I know....but *PHWOAR* :twatson:

[Shatterface]

Aiden was throwing a hissy fit because Mick apparently 'misgendered' xir.

If someone doesn't use your preferred pronoun 'they' it's not misgendering, it's miscounting.

How in the name of fuck is someone supposed to guess the gender of someone with a guy's name and an avatar that looks like Emo Philips fucked a monkey?

[welch]

dogen said:

Which science was especially bad? And what was the plot gap (PM if worried about spoilers). Am keen to know!

Well, at the time I saw it, I think I saw 5 or 6 Bad Science bits, but now I only remember two:

1. Clones, if and when they happen, will not be identical -- well, they can be identical in appearance, but they absolutely will not be identical in personality and behaviour. For clones to be identical in personality and behaviour, two impossible things would have to happen:

1a. Brains would have to be not only mostly not plastic and mostly not blank slates, but absolutely not at all plastic and not at all blank slates; brains, wherein our personality and behaviours are formed/created/developed, would have to be perfectly complete and fully developed during gestation. And obviously that's not the case.

1b. The living experience (or exprience and knowledge gained after waking), in even the smallest random detail, would have to be 100% the same, including any and all spontaneous random events, to create identical personality and behaviour.

2. The acceleration visually implied to the spaceship returning to Earth (when it leaves the Moon) appears to be so great as to crush any living tissue into jelly paste.

I cannot remember the plot gap now; it's been too long since I saw the movie. I just remember that at the time I saw it, somewhere near the end, I went "Ah, c'mon! That's a giant plot gap". Or, you know, something to that effect. :whistle:

That was the one thing I liked about "The Boys from Brazil". They had the Hitler Clones placed in families very near to Adolph's, then went to work ensuring their lives matched. So at the right age, their fathers died, etc. The movie was, for the most part hilariously bad. A fight between old Gregory Peck and even older Olivier...man. But it was a brutal fight given the situation, and I will say Peck as Mengele was creepy as fuck. Even in a shit film, you were like..."That dude is just fucking evil. Like even Satan avoids this guy"

[Shatterface]

The sheer level of obtuseness of Aidan Rowe should be considered a dangerous substance and controlled by the DEA

I know I know....but *PHWOAR* :twatson:

Heroin chic is so last-century.

Nothing says professional victim more than a photo shot from a high angle.

[Ape+lust]

Cold blooded Darron Wint was indicted on 20 charges today.

http://imgur.com/jqP1IWZ.png

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... arges.html

...and from May, a reminder of the sort of scuzzbuckets we track here:

http://imgur.com/Xz9CxoY.png

[HunnyBunny]

Heina gets a tax refund, and gets tickets to CONvergence.

While her kickstarter backers get to sit & wait for the refund she solidly promised them in May 2014.

http://i.imgur.com/VERHjMe.png

[AndrewV69]

Former Student Sues Harvard Over Handling of Sexual Crimes Complaints

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/us/ha ... pe=article

I wonder who has deeper pocket Harvard or the guy?

My reflection is that just a few years ago (ten actually) I would have assumed she was telling the truth by default. Now I am a lot more skeptical. Then I come to this part and stop reading:

Ms. Leader said in a telephone interview on Thursday that she was trying to raise awareness about what she described as Harvard’s inadequacy in handling sexual assault cases.

Red flag. Every time that I can recall seeing "trying to raise awareness" it turns out that someone is being completely dishonest.

*shrug*

Whatever man. Fuck (Die Antwoord)

[Pitchguest]

Heina gets a tax refund, and gets tickets to CONvergence.

While her kickstarter backers get to sit & wait for the refund she solidly promised them in May 2014.

http://i.imgur.com/VERHjMe.png

Haha, yes her participation in CONvergence is secured! Priorities. What, something about a Kickstarter and duties? Must've been the wind. :whistle:

[Bourne Skeptic]

Former Student Sues Harvard Over Handling of Sexual Crimes Complaints

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/us/ha ... pe=article

I wonder who has deeper pocket Harvard or the guy?

My reflection is that just a few years ago (ten actually) I would have assumed she was telling the truth by default. Now I am a lot more skeptical. Then I come to this part and stop reading:

Ms. Leader said in a telephone interview on Thursday that she was trying to raise awareness about what she described as Harvard’s inadequacy in handling sexual assault cases.

Red flag. Every time that I can recall seeing "trying to raise awareness" it turns out that someone is being completely dishonest.

*shrug*

Whatever man. Fuck (Die Antwoord)

Did you get to this part,

"In July 2015, university investigators found that John Doe 1 was “not responsible” for any rape, assault, abuse, harassment or retaliation. Ms. Leader unsuccessfully appealed the findings.

One of her lawyers, Alexander S. Zalkin, said in a telephone interview that they decided to file suit against the university for damages rather than sue the person she accused of assaulting her because of the “larger issue.”

[Steersman]

Aiden was throwing a hissy fit because Mick apparently 'misgendered' xir.

If someone doesn't use your preferred pronoun 'they' it's not misgendering, it's miscounting.

How in the name of fuck is someone supposed to guess the gender of someone with a guy's name and an avatar that looks like Emo Philips fucked a monkey?

They did identify themselves as "an AMAB transgender queer" in an early comment (#48) at that thread of Nugent's, although I don't see that they indicated a preferred pronoun. But, given that they argued that "excluding a woman from the category ‘lesbian’ because she has a penis is [transphobic]", I'm not entirely sure that "dude" is not appropriate.

In any case, I don't know whether you noticed, via the track-back, that they have apparently "flounced" off to their own blog to complain in detail about the "anti-trans hate speech" Mick is supposedly "enabling". I think it "unfortunate" that Mick has apparently deleted a few of the comments there, including a few by Cindy who supposedly is the prime suspect. As the previous quote of comments by both Malone and Walsh suggest, Aidan seems incapable of realizing, or unwilling to make the effort to do so, that a criticism of some members of a group is not a categorical accusation against all members in it.

[Steersman]

God this Nugent situation just got way worse.

I did love this bit from Derek Walsh:

Sarah Malone:

Yeah transgender people often

No no no no no. Not “transgender people often”.

Not “transgender people”, just Aidan Rowe.

Not “often”, just in this particular instance.

Do you see the difference? Do you see why criticism of one person’s actions is not a criticism of the entirety of behaviour of a whole class of people? Do you see why one person’s behaviour can’t be excused, ignored or defended by appealing to the idea that the sort of person they are is unlikely to behave in such a way?
I suspect you don’t, and I believe it’s the same sort of category error that began this whole silly affair.

Whereabouts is that conversation? I see both Malone and Walsh making an appearance in Nugent's thread, but I don't see those comments.

[comhcinc]

BTW, I'm getting back from Beijing a day earlier than I thought - what are the instructions for joining the chat?

I just need your gmail or Google+ account and so I can add you to the hangout tomorrow.

[HunnyBunny]

They did identify themselves as "an AMAB transgender queer" in an early comment (#48) at that thread of Nugent's, although I don't see that they indicated a preferred pronoun. But, given that they argued that "excluding a woman from the category ‘lesbian’ because she has a penis is [transphobic]", I'm not entirely sure that "dude" is not appropriate.

In any case, I don't know whether you noticed, via the track-back, that they have apparently "flounced" off to their own blog to complain in detail about the "anti-trans hate speech" Mick is supposedly "enabling". I think it "unfortunate" that Mick has apparently deleted a few of the comments there, including a few by Cindy who supposedly is the prime suspect. As the previous quote of comments by both Malone and Walsh suggest, Aidan seems incapable of realizing, or unwilling to make the effort to do so, that a criticism of some members of a group is not a categorical accusation against all members in it.

Lets not give away self-justifying clicks to the whackos, This person really does not warrant publicising.:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160220011 ... te-speech/

As to the claim of They is a pronoun, I refuse to contribute towards bastardising meaning in the English language anymore. The right to respect for delusional ideology is also delusional.

[Steersman]

God this Nugent situation just got way worse.

I did love this bit from Derek Walsh:
<snip>

Whereabouts is that conversation? I see both Malone and Walsh making an appearance in Nugent's thread, but I don't see those comments.

Never mind - guess I didn't get this memo: I hear you’re a trans-misogynistic hate speech supporter now, Michael ....

[Bourne Skeptic]

BTW, I'm getting back from Beijing a day earlier than I thought - what are the instructions for joining the chat?

I just need your gmail or Google+ account and so I can add you to the hangout tomorrow.

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

[Steersman]

They did identify themselves as "an AMAB transgender queer" in an early comment (#48) at that thread of Nugent's, although I don't see that they indicated a preferred pronoun. ...

Lets not give away self-justifying clicks to the whackos, This person really does not warrant publicising.:
[.tweet][/tweet]
https://web.archive.org/web/20160220011 ... te-speech/

Yea, I probably should have archived it.

As to the claim of They is a pronoun, I refuse to contribute towards bastardising meaning in the English language anymore. The right to respect for delusional ideology is also delusional.

While I sympathize with that view, as I think others have pointed out, "they" as a singular does seem to have some historical justifications. But I feel pretty much the same way as you do about "delusional ideology" when it comes to calling Bruce Jenner Caitlyn, and accepting that he got some "Woman of the Year" award. I might consider changing my mind after he's had his surgery (apparently not yet completed according to some recent reports) and returns that award.

[AndrewV69]

Did you get to this part,

"In July 2015, university investigators found that John Doe 1 was “not responsible” for any rape, assault, abuse, harassment or retaliation. Ms. Leader unsuccessfully appealed the findings.

One of her lawyers, Alexander S. Zalkin, said in a telephone interview that they decided to file suit against the university for damages rather than sue the person she accused of assaulting her because of the “larger issue.”

Nope. Did not have to. Pretty well know the script by now. Like I said earlier ... "raising awareness" = "mendacious cunt" making shit up. At some point in the future I might get blindsided by one of these emotionally/brain damaged induhviduals being truthful but I am not holding my breath.

Way too many of these toxic emotional disasters running around for me to spend much time on. At least right now because I want to get caught up on the 'Pit then do my dailys on FFXIV and spending some time reading about the twaddle some mendacious special snowflake dreamed up has a much lower priority than that.

What I really enjoy though is when one of the perpetrators of the current hysteria gets fucked over by the very processes they enable.

That said I might read it later. Right now FFXIV calls.

I know. :bjarte:

[Lsuoma]

BTW, I'm getting back from Beijing a day earlier than I thought - what are the instructions for joining the chat?

I just need your gmail or Google+ account and so I can add you to the hangout tomorrow.

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

Google+ no hava.

[comhcinc]

I did enjoy the Astronauts Wife the first time, in the cinema with zero expectation.

I enjoyed an astronaut's wife once.


True story.

[comhcinc]

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

Beer money. When I run out of beer I will ask for more money.

[Bourne Skeptic]

I just need your gmail or Google+ account and so I can add you to the hangout tomorrow.

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

Google+ no hava.

:think:

[Bourne Skeptic]

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

Beer money. When I run out of beer I will ask for more money.

At least it's going to a good cause.

[comhcinc]

Why aren't you asking other people for the $49.95 administration fee you had me pay?

Beer money. When I run out of beer I will ask for more money.

At least it's going to a good cause.

Yup my slow suicide.

[Easy J]

Quick question: what's the movie? I thought it was casino, but I missed this part when I rewatched it. That's the crazy guy who shot some people in a bar then got tortured by Joe Pesci, right? (Nails in the bollocks, IIRC)

So, movie name please. I tend to mix my crime flicks.

Should be Casino. Pesci's character IRL (Tony Spilotro) stuck a guy's head in a vice until his eye popped out to get info out of him before killing him.

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[Brive1987]

my slow suicide.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/sdtrs.gif

[comhcinc]

Slower than that.