The Refuge of the Toads

[welch]

I have a new rule. If you are going to call yourself a feminist then you have to tell me what kind you are.

I am sooooooo tired of people saying not all feminist blah blah blah.

Same thing for skeptic, "believer in free speech" and "liberal".

I'm just saying if you ever bring up some shit a feminist did some other feminist will dismiss it as the act of a different type of feminist. Yet they never say what type of feminist they themselves are.

And this goes for people like Dawkins too.

yet those same feminists get all pissy when "no true scotsman" is used against them.

[Clarence]

PZ Myers

30 January 2016 at 3:32 pm

Let’s get real. Dawkins is the establishment. He still has all the clout and all the prestige. The leaders of most of the atheist/skeptic organizations are going to continue to suck up to him. The anti-feminists are obsessive and underhanded, and will continue to troll and do their best to undermine any effort to change the status quo. I’m already getting the flood of hatred on social media and email for this.

Nothing will change.

Most galling: I’m getting accused of ‘betraying atheism’ for…it’s not clear what for. Money? Glory? Fame? That’s the thing — I could have gotten much more of that by promoting the dudely white version of atheism. Sex? There’s this dumbass myth that guys only support feminism to get laid. It’s absurd. Supporting women’s autonomy is not a recipe for getting sex slaves. I’m also boringly monogamous, so even if it were true, I wouldn’t be taking advantage.

And then there’s the sad truth that victory for my cause of greater diversity in atheism is going to lead to my abandonment, as an obvious member of the privileged group. I’m going to die someday, and there will be raucous cheering by the regressive side, and a sigh of relief at another obstacle gone by the side I’m championing.

And that’s OK, because I’m an atheist, so I won’t care what people say after I’m dead, and what matters is the cause. And that goes on without me.

Peezus wept.

[comhcinc]

yet those same feminists get all pissy when "no true scotsman" is used against them.

Exactly. A like I said Dawkins is just as guilty of it as the rest.

You have picked your team now own up to it.

[Sunder]

And for the record, I wouldn't use the name of someone who wasn't public about it, and especially not to someone I actually like. I've been praising Metaburbia all day because he's been wrecking Novella's apologetics as well as others in the comments. Sorry for the confusion. I just thought the guy was moderately well known in the Pit considering his tweets get linked here sometimes.

[KiwiInOz]

And #wrongskin. Never forget #wrongskin. That one made the international press (coming off the back, as it did, of the Rachel Dolezal thing). Parsehole/Elfwick's finest moment.

Sarg definitely needs to know that Elfwick was born here. Our boy Parsehole done good.

That said, Parsehole himself seems kinda semi-retired these days, which is a shame - but the dude has definitely earned his rest.

Parsehole/Elfwick was so good social justice dweebs would lie to claim a connection to him:

http://imgur.com/rIE8W0g.png

I can't help but laugh at that.

"I was there, I saw it" - except, we know that they weren't and that they didn't.

To be fair, Parsehole intimated that he and some non-pit mates came up with Godfrey. So we may just have been the romantic movie beforehand that led to the actual conception.

[Ape+lust]

PZ Myers

30 January 2016 at 3:32 pm
. I’m going to die someday, and there will be raucous cheering by the regressive side

Why would his own side cheer his demise?

Seriously though, I don't think many people will cheer at PZ's death other than a few trolls. Unlike, say, when Hitch died, and a large number of "PZ's side" could barely contain their vicious glee.

He's feeling sorry for himself. Do you know he's very afraid of dying? A commenter once posited PZ's death and ZOOM, he was right there, upset. His Daddy died relatively young of heart trouble and now here he was with heart trouble, oh no. Talking about death made him very uncomfortable.

And I'm sure no heart specialist ever said to a patient, "Go now, and be angry all the time. Pick fights with others."

So, WTF PZ, what are you doing?

Anyway, on better days when he's not feeling sorry for himself, this is how he sees his last day. It's pretty epic. And stupid:

http://archive.is/z8uG6

[KiwiInOz]

snip
I can't help but laugh at that.

"I was there, I saw it" - except, we know that they weren't and that they didn't.

To be fair, we don't know where else Parsehole posts, or hangs out in real life. He might have discussed it elsewhere as well.

Imagine if we discovered that "Tony Parsehole" isn't even his real name?[/quote]

Oh bugger.

:nin:

[SM12]

Does Peezus really think Dawkins will outlive him?

What sort of condition is Myers in?

If Myers dies, I'm sure he'll be remembered as the guy who rode that dinosaur at a creationist museum.

Which I think pretty much sums up his achievements.

[free thoughtpolice]

welch wrote:

yet those same feminists get all pissy when "no true scotsman" is used against them.

I got in a few heated discussions with Sally Strange about how I was a true feminists and her and her flaky friends were doing for more damage to the cause than MRAs and the patriarchy could ever hope to do.
That definitely got a reaction. :drool:

[Shatterface]

PZ Myers

30 January 2016 at 3:32 pm

Let’s get real. Dawkins is the establishment. He still has all the clout and all the prestige. The leaders of most of the atheist/skeptic organizations are going to continue to suck up to him. The anti-feminists are obsessive and underhanded, and will continue to troll and do their best to undermine any effort to change the status quo. I’m already getting the flood of hatred on social media and email for this.

Nothing will change.

Most galling: I’m getting accused of ‘betraying atheism’ for…it’s not clear what for. Money? Glory? Fame? That’s the thing — I could have gotten much more of that by promoting the dudely white version of atheism. Sex? There’s this dumbass myth that guys only support feminism to get laid. It’s absurd. Supporting women’s autonomy is not a recipe for getting sex slaves. I’m also boringly monogamous, so even if it were true, I wouldn’t be taking advantage.

And then there’s the sad truth that victory for my cause of greater diversity in atheism is going to lead to my abandonment, as an obvious member of the privileged group. I’m going to die someday, and there will be raucous cheering by the regressive side, and a sigh of relief at another obstacle gone by the side I’m championing.

And that’s OK, because I’m an atheist, so I won’t care what people say after I’m dead, and what matters is the cause. And that goes on without me.

Peezus wept.

I have family I care about so actually it does matter what people say about me when I'm dead because it can effect them.

Unlike Peezus I don't want 'sack of shit' on my gravestone.

[Sunder]

Actually Paul, it's really easy to explain why you're in the hole you're in. Once upon a time you made a losing bet and have spent the rest of your life trying to justify it. And it doesn't matter how increasingly obvious it becomes that your cause is a sham and a failure, you know you can't do any better.

[Shatterface]

Does Peezus really think Dawkins will outlive him?

What sort of condition is Myers in?

If Myers dies, I'm sure he'll be remembered as the guy who rode that dinosaur at a creationist museum.

Which I think pretty much sums up his achievements.

When Dawkins dies he'll leave behind a scientific legacy, a number of excellent science books, a foundation, and the word 'meme' which even Tumblr retards have heard.

Peezus will leave behind a nasty smell and some stubborn stains. As in life.

[deLurch]

Given the response and fall out from SyeTenAtheist's video, we may well have to admit it is a satirical masterpiece.

[comhcinc]

If Myers dies, I'm sure he'll be remembered as the guy who rode that dinosaur at a creationist museum.

No he won't. There are hundreds of pictures of people doing that.

[Gumby]

He's feeling sorry for himself. Do you know he's very afraid of dying? A commenter once posited PZ's death and ZOOM, he was right there, upset. His Daddy died relatively young of heart trouble and now here he was with heart trouble, oh no. Talking about death made him very uncomfortable.

And I'm sure no heart specialist ever said to a patient, "Go now, and be angry all the time. Pick fights with others."

So, WTF PZ, what are you doing?

Anyway, on better days when he's not feeling sorry for himself, this is how he sees his last day. It's pretty epic. And stupid:

http://archive.is/z8uG6

Well that was weird.

I'm at that point in my life where I'm finally starting to seriously contemplate my own mortality. As you regulars know, my mother died a couple months ago. But what I never mentioned is that all the stress of dealing with mom in her last month's left me with dizziness and chest pains. Long story short, I found i have a (hopefully) minor heart defect, plus I'm in the early stages of COPD, which is what did my mother in. And to think I quit smoking 10 months ago... Lol. I even had to do a cardiac stress test, and I'm happy to report I wasn't a big overdramatic wuss about it like Peezus was about his.

So anyway, this shit is all new to me. For 50 yesrs I've been used to taking my health for granted, so being diagnosed with old-fart conditions (including the eventual death sentence of COPD) is quite depressing. So I don't blame peez too terribly much if he feels like waxing maudlin once in a while. But I do promise I won't peez out here, at least for a long time. I hope.

[deLurch]

[VickyCaramel]

Given the response and fall out from SyeTenAtheist's video, we may well have to admit it is a satirical masterpiece.

But the rape part at the end was totally over the top...

[AndrewV69]

Julia Galef weighs in.



Oh, she doth teach the torches to burn bright. Smart lady.

ETA: Some commenters have pointed out that, after Dawkins learned the woman in the video was a real person, said that although she didn't deserve harassment, she did deserve "mockery, the more the merrier." Which I agree is bad. Encouraging a public shaming campaign against a woman who is already being harassed online seems like a stronger justification for being disinvited, to me (as compared to posting the video itself).

*shrug*

Perhaps she has not seen any of the videos of Big Red in action? Or does it not matter and that Chanty Binx (not her real name BTW) can behave in a reprehensible manner and expect no repercussions?

BTW ... anyone have a link that shows Chanty Binx being harassed? All I have seen so far is her being mocked and held up to ridicule.

[Sunder]

Brive's doing a heck of a job at Steve's place as well.

Novella: “In fact, pointed criticism is good for the feminist movement – or for any movement. (This does not mean that NECSS is the proper venue for any particular topic.)”

Wow – tell me what was Dawkins’s topic to be at NECSS? Feminism? No? Didn’t think so. So what was the relevance here? Were you nervous of out of session water cooler gossip? Like that’s going to be avoided now with your actions.

[deLurch]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

[free thoughtpolice]

Julia Galef weighs in.



Oh, she doth teach the torches to burn bright. Smart lady.

ETA: Some commenters have pointed out that, after Dawkins learned the woman in the video was a real person, said that although she didn't deserve harassment, she did deserve "mockery, the more the merrier." Which I agree is bad. Encouraging a public shaming campaign against a woman who is already being harassed online seems like a stronger justification for being disinvited, to me (as compared to posting the video itself).

*shrug*

Perhaps she has not seen any of the videos of Big Red in action? Or does it not matter and that Chanty Binx (not her real name BTW) can behave in a reprehensible manner and expect no repercussions?

BTW ... anyone have a link that shows Chanty Binx being harassed? All I have seen so far is her being mocked and held up to ridicule.

Links of her harrassment:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/

[free thoughtpolice]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

They were worried about their image but had Becky on their podcast? :roll:

[Gumby]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

What's important is that Rebecca Watson is happy. Everything else is secondary.

[welch]

welch wrote:

yet those same feminists get all pissy when "no true scotsman" is used against them.

I got in a few heated discussions with Sally Strange about how I was a true feminists and her and her flaky friends were doing for more damage to the cause than MRAs and the patriarchy could ever hope to do.
That definitely got a reaction. :drool:

There is nothing that will fuck a cause up like its most true adherents.

[Bourne Skeptic]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

What's important is that Rebecca Watson is happy. Everything else is secondary.

I wonder if she's even capable of being happy?

[welch]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

It's classic group behavior. Protect the group at all costs. It makes the people doing the protecting so short-sighted that they can neither see nor be told that they are actually hurting the group.

[welch]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

What's important is that Rebecca Watson is happy. Everything else is secondary.

I wonder if she's even capable of being happy?

All you need is a fresh bottle of vodka and a c-note.

[comhcinc]

Links of her harrassment:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/[/quote]


Which if you take the time to read I think we can all agree there is some.

I think it also demonstrates the problem that what I call harassment and what the regressives call harassment is two different things.

[windy]

Nothing to do with nothing. Just funny.

The way things are going with Merkel he might have one more chance.

Hitler was named Chancellor 3 years after he died?

TIME just got the country wrong. This would have been after he faked his death and fled to Brazil.

http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-conte ... w=599&zc=1

[Steersman]

welch wrote:

yet those same feminists get all pissy when "no true scotsman" is used against them.

I got in a few heated discussions with Sally Strange about how I was a true feminists and her and her flaky friends were doing for more damage to the cause than MRAs and the patriarchy could ever hope to do.
That definitely got a reaction. :drool:

There is nothing that will fuck a cause up like its most true adherents.

Indeed. Goes back at least as far as Ignatius Loyola and his "Rules for Thinking with The Church":

[deLurch]

What's important is that Rebecca Watson is happy. Everything else is secondary.

I wonder if she's even capable of being happy?

Well she did move to a medical marijuana state.

[comhcinc]

It nice to know that Steersman spouts random shit at complete strangers too.

[free thoughtpolice]

commie wrote:

Which if you take the time to read I think we can all agree there is some.

I think it also demonstrates the problem that what I call harassment and what the regressives call harassment is two different things.

I think there are one or two direct threats in that list and that is it. I've had a direct threat from a pharynguloid that was basically the same as those.
There are a number of "I wish" or "I hope" ones that are about on par with the now retired rotting porcupine or rusty chainsaw up the ass that was in favor among the feminist community at FTB. The rest is either simple name calling or just disagreement.
Just a typical bullshit "Wall of Hate" attempt with few if any real threats and zero evidence of a sustained or serious campaign so they can get victim points and silence their critics.
Those assholes have that sleazy trick down to a science.

[Steersman]

Latest news about Nawaz whose feet are looking more "clayish" all the time: either he's seriously deluded or a wolf in sheep's clothing. Salient quote from SBS's: Islam is native to the west: Nawaz

"When we finally realise that Muslims are here to stay, that they are native to the west, their version of Islam is native to the west, we will own that conversation on equal terms," he said.

"As we love our fellow Christian neighbours, we will love our fellow Muslim neighbours because we will feel it's part of us.

Nawaz said Muslims have been born and raised in Australia and the Islam they follow is therefore also born and raised in Australia.

What an idiot - he was recently on an Australian newsprogram (The Drum) where there was an Australian Muslim woman who seemed rather clearly in favour of theocracy and Sharia law.

And what horseshit: that Islam is manufactured and distributed from #SaudiBarbaria Central.

[Steersman]

It nice to know that Steersman spouts random shit at complete strangers too.

I guess it might look that way - if one had poor reading comprehension skills and/or an inability to check out a Twitter thread ....

[AndrewV69]

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/

Thanks. Any more that you know of?

[Lsuoma]

The NECSS, which seems to care so much about their image (which really boils down to the SGU, which really boils down to the Novellas), they certainly went about this in the most classless way possible.

What's important is that Rebecca Watson is happy. Everything else is secondary.

I wonder if she's even capable of being happy?

Of course she is! Oh, wait, that's not harpy...

[comhcinc]

It nice to know that Steersman spouts random shit at complete strangers too.

I guess it might look that way - if one had poor reading comprehension skills and/or an inability to check out a Twitter thread ....

No it looks that way to the rest of us too.

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/6a19c5899b/am ... yeroll.gif

[Ape+lust]

He's feeling sorry for himself. Do you know he's very afraid of dying? A commenter once posited PZ's death and ZOOM, he was right there, upset. His Daddy died relatively young of heart trouble and now here he was with heart trouble, oh no. Talking about death made him very uncomfortable.

And I'm sure no heart specialist ever said to a patient, "Go now, and be angry all the time. Pick fights with others."

So, WTF PZ, what are you doing?

Anyway, on better days when he's not feeling sorry for himself, this is how he sees his last day. It's pretty epic. And stupid:

http://archive.is/z8uG6

Well that was weird.

I'm at that point in my life where I'm finally starting to seriously contemplate my own mortality. As you regulars know, my mother died a couple months ago. But what I never mentioned is that all the stress of dealing with mom in her last month's left me with dizziness and chest pains. Long story short, I found i have a (hopefully) minor heart defect, plus I'm in the early stages of COPD, which is what did my mother in. And to think I quit smoking 10 months ago... Lol. I even had to do a cardiac stress test, and I'm happy to report I wasn't a big overdramatic wuss about it like Peezus was about his.

So anyway, this shit is all new to me. For 50 yesrs I've been used to taking my health for granted, so being diagnosed with old-fart conditions (including the eventual death sentence of COPD) is quite depressing. So I don't blame peez too terribly much if he feels like waxing maudlin once in a while. But I do promise I won't peez out here, at least for a long time. I hope.

Oh Gumby, that's not such good news. I'm very sorry to hear it.

This might be a small reason to smile: We could form a club. I'm also being treated for chronic conditions that will probably lead to my exit. How soon and what it's like in between will depend on the effectiveness of treatment and my cooperation. And I quit smoking 2 years ago (this March) :D

As for Peez, no I don't blame anyone for being afraid of death, not even him. What I do fault him for is forcing his heart to be attached to a raging asshat. He should stop that. Or shut up about his heart and the passing of poor, pitiful Peez.

[deLurch]

It is apparently going nuts over in Sweden.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... o=embedded

[Ape+lust]

If Myers dies, I'm sure he'll be remembered as the guy who rode that dinosaur at a creationist museum.

No he won't. There are hundreds of pictures of people doing that.

Yes, he will. None of their rides are immortalized like this:

[comhcinc]

commie wrote:

Which if you take the time to read I think we can all agree there is some.

I think it also demonstrates the problem that what I call harassment and what the regressives call harassment is two different things.

I think there are one or two direct threats in that list and that is it. I've had a direct threat from a pharynguloid that was basically the same as those.
There are a number of "I wish" or "I hope" ones that are about on par with the now retired rotting porcupine or rusty chainsaw up the ass that was in favor among the feminist community at FTB. The rest is either simple name calling or just disagreement.
Just a typical bullshit "Wall of Hate" attempt with few if any real threats and zero evidence of a sustained or serious campaign so they can get victim points and silence their critics.
Those assholes have that sleazy trick down to a science.

I think from now on when people claim harassment I am going to say something like.


Yes I understand and agree that you have been harassed for being public with your opinion. This happens to everyone and it has always been the case. I understand and find no fault in you not wanting to deal with it and understand you wanting to walk away from making public statements.

[free thoughtpolice]

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/

Thanks. Any more that you know of?

Moar Futrelle:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/ ... nt-page-3/

[comhcinc]

It is apparently going nuts over in Sweden.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... o=embedded

I saw that this morning on the Reddit. Seems most people were dismissing the story as very sensationalized.

Someone posted a different source this morning but the thread has over 6000 comments and I can't find it right off hand.

[comhcinc]

If Myers dies, I'm sure he'll be remembered as the guy who rode that dinosaur at a creationist museum.

No he won't. There are hundreds of pictures of people doing that.

Yes, he will. None of their rides are immortalized like this:

No he won't but I would help pay to get an ad on his site that's just that gif.

[x_?_x]

Links of her harrassment:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/

Which if you take the time to read I think we can all agree there is some.

I think it also demonstrates the problem that what I call harassment and what the regressives call harassment is two different things.[/quote]
https://archive.is/NXqvi (archive everything, people)

I read through all of the 'harassment.' There were some uncomfortable messages, sure, but someone saying "prepare to get anally defiled" is not a rape threat. "Getting ass-raped" is a common vernacular, and no matter how distasteful one may find it, it does not denote an immediate call to action. Saying, "Someone should feed this bitch a bullet" is not a death threat. Saying, "I wish I could punch women so I could punch this bitch in the face" is not a threat of violence.

There are a lot of comments in the article, but none of them strike me as legitimate threats. A woman can stand on the sidewalk and angrily shout at people, but she can't handle comments on tumblr and youtube? Doesn't that strike people as being absurd?

[comhcinc]

It is apparently going nuts over in Sweden.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... o=embedded

Found a better link

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/j ... e-children

[Gumby]

This might be a small reason to smile: We could form a club. I'm also being treated for chronic conditions that will probably lead to my exit. How soon and what it's like in between will depend on the effectiveness of treatment and my cooperation. And I quit smoking 2 years ago (this March) :D

Sorry you aren't well either. You've alluded to not being well before and I always wondered how badly off you are. Because really, the only way I'm gonna be the top shooper here is if you, Jan and others kick the bucket. Here, could you guys hold on to this polonium for me?

On second thought, if we gotta have this kind of club, we may as well start a Patreon together. Shoops For Shekels. We'll fleece these bastards but good! :D

[Gumby]

You must have done this while I was on hiatus from here. Dude you're killin' me.

[Gumby]

Man, I wish I were so privileged as to have an assistant who helped me fuck blue-wigged cows.

[comhcinc]

I read through all of the 'harassment.' There were some uncomfortable messages, sure, but someone saying "prepare to get anally defiled" is not a rape threat. A woman can stand on the sidewalk and angrily shout at people, but she can't handle comments on tumblr and youtube? Doesn't that strike people as being absurd?

The stuff I deleted I agree with.

These comments I don't. I can see in this case with people doing their best to hunt her down (including doxxing) have a direct message like that being sent to her as something she could see as a threat. I totally buy that.

I think it is always a mistake to completely dismiss people feeling uncomfortable or unsafe. Yes it's used a lot as a defense by shitty people (like Wu claiming to being chased from her home while giving video interviews in her home).

In Big Red's case and with hindsight I am more willing to believe it. She did not profit off of a shit storm. She went away.

[comhcinc]

This might be a small reason to smile: We could form a club. I'm also being treated for chronic conditions that will probably lead to my exit. How soon and what it's like in between will depend on the effectiveness of treatment and my cooperation. And I quit smoking 2 years ago (this March) :D

Sorry you aren't well either. You've alluded to not being well before and I always wondered how badly off you are. Because really, the only way I'm gonna be the top shooper here is if you, Jan and others kick the bucket. Here, could you guys hold on to this polonium for me?

On second thought, if we gotta have this kind of club, we may as well start a Patreon together. Shoops For Shekels. We'll fleece these bastards but good! :D

You assholes need to live. I need father figures goddammit.

[Guest_0048cc29]

I love David Futrelle, there he is at reddit, in one of their notorious forums, punchable faces, and reddit, which in 2014 "today announced that in 2014 it served an impressive 71.25 billion pageviews in over 8,000 active subreddits" and he prints 10 comments whose total vote count is:
[1 31 2 2 1 2 5 2 2 -1] = 47 / 10 = 4.7

And then fuckheads feminists and fuckhead media types and fuckheads will link to him with those 10 comments average 5 upvotes per as proof of how evil reddit is.

He's an honest observer, yes he is.

[free thoughtpolice]

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/ ... activists/

Thanks. Any more that you know of?

Apparently the main complaint she made to the papers was of her doxxing, which included her phone number and address. If their is anything really serious, I can't find it and the way crybully tactics work I can't imagine it not being shouted from the rooftops.

[Gumby]

You assholes need to live. I need father figures goddammit.

I think I'm good for a decent amount of time. Now clean your room and do your homework.

[Ape+lust]

Sorry you aren't well either. You've alluded to not being well before and I always wondered how badly off you are. Because really, the only way I'm gonna be the top shooper here is if you, Jan and others kick the bucket. Here, could you guys hold on to this polonium for me?

On second thought, if we gotta have this kind of club, we may as well start a Patreon together. Shoops For Shekels. We'll fleece these bastards but good! :D

A Patreon! Patreon would just kick us off for abusing Peez and Becky. I'm lost without my muses.

I'm such a one-dimensional hack :lol:

[Really?]

It is apparently going nuts over in Sweden.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... o=embedded

Yay! This shit is spreading from the Shitty Middle East to the West!

[comhcinc]

http://i.imgur.com/h6OekR1.png

That was awful.

[Really?]

I love David Futrelle, there he is at reddit, in one of their notorious forums, punchable faces, and reddit, which in 2014 "today announced that in 2014 it served an impressive 71.25 billion pageviews in over 8,000 active subreddits" and he prints 10 comments whose total vote count is:
[1 31 2 2 1 2 5 2 2 -1] = 47 / 10 = 4.7

And then fuckheads feminists and fuckhead media types and fuckheads will link to him with those 10 comments average 5 upvotes per as proof of how evil reddit is.

He's an honest observer, yes he is.

I'm guessing Futrelle is the way he is because he gets all kind of hatefuck pussy who hate him because he's a man.

[Billie from Ockham]

Not dancing or spinning, but is it even moving at all?

Thank you! (The reverse-contrast illusion is an actual illusion.)