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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 11:44 pm
by Brive1987
Nice pitch. Won't work though. I'd need to work a romance angle.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 11:47 pm
by KiwiInOz
feathers wrote:
Steersman wrote:And, from the same source:
Why did someone bother wiping out all names? They're all Anonymous, this is 4chan, duh.
Sunni and Cher

Sonny and Shia

Sunni and Shia. Ha. Take that.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 11:54 pm
by Brive1987

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:09 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Is Dicky talking about his own book? If so, I'll repeat: what a fucking narcissistic, self-centered, self-congratulatory wanker. "Qualified expert" indeed...

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:20 am
by Brive1987
Yes, some poor bastard didn't get the "end all rational debate' memo.

http://i.imgur.com/ypJ1dow.jpg

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:04 am
by feathers
KiwiInOz wrote:Sunni and Cher
Sonny and Shia
Sunni and Shia. Ha. Take that.
Reddit also has some (mind that mouse cursor):

Allah long the watchtower
The Taliband
Meccalica
Metallicallah
Fatwa Slim
The Joo Fighters

Also note the text in the band's photo: Battle of the Bands.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:22 am
by KiwiInOz
feathers wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:Sunni and Cher
Sonny and Shia
Sunni and Shia. Ha. Take that.
Reddit also has some (mind that mouse cursor):

Allah long the watchtower
The Taliband
Meccalica
Metallicallah
Fatwa Slim
The Joo Fighters

Also note the text in the band's photo: Battle of the Bands.
Hmm.

Simple Mines
I.B.M
Meccadeth
Ummas and the Papas

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:28 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Fuck, you guys are good. I can't come up with anything. Maybe Floatsam And Islam?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:55 am
by feathers
Dead Can Daesh
Procol Haram
The Mo - oh sorry, taken
Fucking cold Medina
Niqab and the Bad Seeds
Taqqiya Sunrise
Fakir goes to Halalwood
Jew Arson Airplane

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:56 am
by Hunt
RPG Speedwagon

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:06 am
by KiwiInOz
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Fuck, you guys are good. I can't come up with anything. Maybe Floatsam And Islam?
Falafeland?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:09 am
by Keating
free thoughtpolice wrote:[youtube]W7I92r9GqUw[/youtube]
One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:10 am
by Keating
Oh crap, I broke a streak.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:20 am
by feathers
Keating wrote:Oh crap, I broke a streak.
Now you've got to come up with some of your own. It's only fajr.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:22 am
by DaveDodo007
Dave wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: By not criticising or denying membership, Carrier has jumped the shark fully - elevating free-fucks above Skeptical thought.
Did anyone ever suspect that he would do otherwise?
Carrier is a wooist at this point, breatharians are more skeptical than he is.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:30 am
by Keating
feathers wrote:
Keating wrote:Oh crap, I broke a streak.
Now you've got to come up with some of your own. It's only fajr.
The Animals?
The Atomic Fireballs?
Dire Straits?
Berlin?

Am I doing this right, or is it too Steersman?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:30 am
by Keating
Oh, I got one: Faith Yes More

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:31 am
by DaveDodo007
comhcinc wrote:
People like to say atheists hate christians and god and such and there are a group of or mostly young atheist that do.

But I have found that the real hate come from the alternative religion crowd. Wiccans and the such just drip vile for christians and they seem to hold on to that well into their 50s.
Well the Christians did burn them at the stake and whatnot, so there is that I suppose.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:33 am
by feathers
Queens of the stoned age

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:36 am
by feathers
Is Lsuoma doing alright? This is an awful time for being a bear in Canada.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:50 am
by Ape+lust
Surly Amy is kicking up scores of angry tweets because she's been stolen from again, this time by a t-shirt company.

http://imgur.com/AIERNKh.jpg

http://imgur.com/fz1W62u.jpg

http://imgur.com/VDjotjS.jpg

Remember she was angry a few years ago because we used her images to ridicule her? She learned a bit about fair use (and that she couldn't do anything about us) and in a fit of enlightenment, opened most of her image collection under a Creative Commons license.

Guess which image was the first pic in the first bunch released?

http://imgur.com/ZzKki9q.jpg

She kept calling the new license "non-commercial", but the one she actually used contains no such restriction. The only requirements are the original author be credited and derivatives be similarly licensed.

Amy has forgotten she's already given the t-shirt company permission to sell their knock-off. They've been grovelling, but that could turn into giving her the finger if they found out :D

OOPS!

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 2:58 am
by jimthepleb
DaveDodo007 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
People like to say atheists hate christians and god and such and there are a group of or mostly young atheist that do.

But I have found that the real hate come from the alternative religion crowd. Wiccans and the such just drip vile for christians and they seem to hold on to that well into their 50s.
Well the Christians did burn them at the stake and whatnot, so there is that I suppose.
Nah, Wicca is a modern religion based on Madeupstuff and The Great Book of MaFeelz. It has no basis in the old religions from which it claims heritage.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:08 am
by jimthepleb
IslamaBad Company
Muslim Brotherhood of Man
Paul Meccacartney and Wings
Mu Slim Shady
FuGaza
Doctor and the MohamMedics
Scissor Isisters

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:35 am
by Gumby
Ape+lust wrote:Surly Amy is kicking up scores of angry tweets because she's been stolen from again, this time by a t-shirt company.
This, from a dolt who was selling Angry Birds surlies until she got busted.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:37 am
by feathers
Taj Halal
Madrassah of Invention

it's getting thinner now

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:46 am
by Brive1987
Ape+lust wrote:Surly Amy is kicking up scores of angry tweets because she's been stolen from again, this time by a t-shirt company.

[i.mg]http://imgur.com/AIERNKh.jpg[/img]

[.]http://imgur.com/fz1W62u.jpg[/img]

[.]http://imgur.com/VDjotjS.jpg[/img]

Remember she was angry a few years ago because we used her images to ridicule her? She learned a bit about fair use (and that she couldn't do anything about us) and in a fit of enlightenment, opened most of her image collection under a Creative Commons license.

Guess which image was the first pic in the first bunch released?

[.]http://imgur.com/ZzKki9q.jpg[/img]

She kept calling the new license "non-commercial", but the one she actually used contains no such restriction. The only requirements are the original author be credited and derivatives be similarly licensed.

Amy has forgotten she's already given the t-shirt company permission to sell their knock-off. They've been grovelling, but that could turn into giving her the finger if they found out :D

OOPS!

Nice one.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:53 am
by DaveDodo007
welch wrote:
ERV wrote:
welch wrote:I've also said that if Abbie and other "proper" scientists don't like the fact that Scibabe has become one of the main faces of public science communication, especially in the food woo arena, that maybe they should get off their asses and fix that, if they really think it's a problem.
Jesus fuck, welch. Did you recently take a railroad spike to the brain? 'Hey, person who had a science blog for 8 years! Person who talked to the general public about science whenever asked, despite terrible stage fright! If you want to educate laymen on science, get off your ass and do something about it!'
Whatsamatter Abbs, there's a set of lips here not firmly on your ass? Oh, if only I had acknowledged your blog over and over as I have in this squabble.

But hey, fuck accuracy right? This is your safe space, I'm probably wrong for questioning you on anything at this point.

Not that you care, because you've pretty much shit accuracy away in this case, but the point isn't that you don't have a blog, because you do. It's that outside of the sciblogs audience it effectively doesn't exist.

Here, let me put this in simple terms you might understand: Blogs parallel papers in this respect. If barely anyone reads a paper or cites it and no one really knows it exists, what value does it have in a practical sense? The blogs that matter are the ones that people know about, otherwise your winking in the dark.

It's why Mendel's work didn't mean fuck all until long after his death, because no one read his work or knew about it. He was right, mostly, and he'd done good work, but no one knew about it, so effectively, it didn't fucking matter. You could have the cure for fucking cancer in a box in your closet, but if no one else knows about it, it does no one any fucking good. Three steps outside of sciblogs, no one knows about shit there, so in terms of general effectiveness, it's a circle jerk in a basement at midnight. Feels good for the participants, no one walking by knows or cares.
ERV wrote:Know why I stopped? It's a thankless job. I have actively supported numerous 'food scientists', who have also run blogs for *years*. They don't get their stuff plugged by Gawker. They haven't had news sites run cutesy biographical sketches. They don't get invited to skeptic events to discuss their area of expertise. Skeptic blogs don't give them awards for their work.
Poor fucking baby, you didn't get feted by Gawker. Wah. None of you want to do the work to get the (highly valuable) stuff you're writing about marketed out to the larger world. You're like those moronic Indie Devs who think marketing is for suckers, then wonder why no one is buying their shit. Words on a blog is only the FIRST part. The rest of it involves making sure the right people know you're writing it. You can shit on Watson all day long, and deservedly so, but she has out-marketed and out-PR'd you every which way possible.

Dawkins gets this. Tyson gets this. They do things like PR and marketing so their words get in the right ears. But you are right, it is regularly thankless work. Which is why so few people do it. But the way shit works outside of the lab is pretty well-established. Facebook. Twitter. The shit you love to laugh at and dismiss. Don't bitch that by not doing the necessary work, you didn't get the attention you think you deserved.
ERV wrote:A seemingly endless parade of people who didn't give a rats ass about science communication (until they need to pay the water bill) do, though.

I've complained about this for years. Why the fuck would anyone fly Watson to Australia (or Mid Missouri) to speak about science, when so many qualified, eager scientists are on their doorstep?
Because no one knows who they are, because they never leave the fucking lab long enough for anyone to know they're there. Jesus christ, how do you fucking think this stuff works? You think a conference organizer has shit loads of spare time to beg people they've never heard of and don't know exist until they go trolling through a facutly list at a local university? If that's what you think, you are so very wrong it's not even funny. Organizing a conference, while not hard in terms of science, is really fucking hard in terms of logistics. It's the worst kind of cat-herding, and if you can save six seconds of time by getting speakers you actually know about, you're going to, because that gives you time to deal with the dickheads at the venue, the stupid fucks doing the catering and the unending ceaseless demands from the special snowflakes who thinks buying a conference pass entitles them to a daily rusty trombone!
ERV wrote:Totally cool when I said that about Watson. Epic tantrum when I say it about your dear, dear Facebook friend.
If the worst thing watson had done was, once, say she should have had a title she didn't really deserve, then you would have totally been overreacting. But it wasn't the first time Watson had been a raging cock to some random person who didn't deserve it. Different situations warrant different responses. I figured you knew this. Evidently I was wrong.
ERV wrote:I stopped 'sci comm' because it takes a ton of time and effort, with very little reward, and I can't afford that right now. Science rewards me for my hard work, when it can. So if you want to improve sci comm, welch, I would suggest supporting people who do it, even if they aren't endorsed by Gawker, or whatever future click bait website takes it's place.
Wank
Wank
Wank

The people doing the hard, thankless work of trying to talk to people who aren't other scientists do get my support. Like Kevin Folta, who got massacred far worse than you ever came close to.

But he at least gets how this whole publicity thing works. Contrary to what you seem to believe (but hey, you're a scientist, you're an expert on goddamned everything, right?) "build it and they will come" isn't even a line from a movie. It's a fantasy based on zero real world experience. If you want people to listen to you, you have to do the work to get their attention. You don't to do that? Totally cool, that's a valid choice. Most other scientists don't? Totally cool, totally valid choices for all of them.

But having made that choice, you don't get to decide who DOES do the communicating. You opt out of the process, you get to fucking live with the results. It's like voting. Don't want to vote? you don't have to, but at least have the spine to shut the fuck up when your voice goes completely unheard because no one knows it's there.

The problem isn't that you made your choice. The problem is, it's not working out the way you think it should and that's burning your ass so hard, you have a sunburn on your nose.
There is nothing wrong with being a contrarian as the pit was made for it but I think you are trying too hard here and it is tiresome. I personally hate white knights and think they should be shot in the face so their mothers can't display their bodies in an open coffin as a shaming tool. Though you know as well as I do that Abbie was blackballed by the atheist/secular/science community. Whilst Rebecca 'I wish I had a abortion so I could post on a hashtag fucking sick monster' Watson and other vigina owners were flown around the world on expenses paid trips even though they wouldn't know science even if you shoved a microscope up their arse. The only reason they were atheists in the first place was they were not indoctrinated as children as they had no skepticism or they wouldn't have become feminists.

I think Abbie does have a chip on her shoulder about this and has every right to have it. I can't believe the amount of dribble I have had to listen to from the 'women in skepticism' yet Abbie voice has been silenced. It made the whole atheist (online) movement a mockery to such an extent that I don't bother with it anymore.

As for the whole scientist debate well I got my degree in biology and went straight into 'BIG PHARMA.' I have worked on new product development and testing/quality control. I don't have a Phd and have written no papers and nobody has ever called me a scientist. My job title is Microbiologist (which is silly as microbiology is just a subset of biology.) When I'm introduced to someone it's 'this is Dave he is a biologist. STEM has become so specialised and scientist so vague that it would probably be only used with someone who hasn't found their niche yet.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:55 am
by KiwiInOz
RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:56 am
by Søren Lilholt
KiwiInOz wrote:
feathers wrote:
Steersman wrote:And, from the same source:
Why did someone bother wiping out all names? They're all Anonymous, this is 4chan, duh.
Sunni and Cher

Sonny and Shia

Sunni and Shia. Ha. Take that.
Wahabbi Mondays

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:05 am
by Shatterface
KiwiInOz wrote:RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.
They named the boat after a non-scientist?

Why not his brother, who cloned dinosaurs?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:15 am
by Shatterface

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:17 am
by Ericb
Keating wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:[youtube]W7I92r9GqUw[/youtube]
One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/w ... ros-044343

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:18 am
by ERV
welch wrote:<snip tantrum>
I was having a good time with some standard Pit banter. You flip the fuck out. I try to keep discussing this with you. I get home from work and find out you have unfriended people you have known for years and years and years over this.

There is one person trying to build a safe-space from disagreement here, welch, and it aint me.


comhcinc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:You know, I'm honestly confused about what Welch is going on about. A person that never really markets themselves as a scientist, who clearly is accenting the Babe part, suddenly turn on a dime and yell sexism for promoters using their own marketing. It boggles my poor damaged mind. And poor Welch is so clearly wrapped around the axle. Call me confused and amused.
I think everyone is kinda talking past each other.

People can correct me if I am wrong but from what I understand it's something like this.

Scibabe said something dumb on twitter. This started the discussion on what exactly is a scientist.

Welch feels that Scibabe is actually cool and should not be labeled an enemy because of two tweets.

ERV feels Scibabe isn't a scientist and that people like her get more attention than they deserve. She feels that people like herself don't get enough respect and I think she is completely right. That isn't because she bought me a beer either. It's because she is making the world a better place.

As brive has pointed out everyone is arguing about different things.
Kind of.

I would change 'people like herself' to 'people with actual passion and expertise' to 'depersonalize' it.

welch knows damn well I discovered/supported Biofortified since 2009. A fucking amazing group of scientists and science communicators whos passion is helping the general public understand food technology. Number of times their articles have been featured on Gawker: Zero. Number of times any of these individuals have been invited to the Reason Rally, despite their proximity to DC: Zero.

Eh if only Anastasia called the blog 'BioBabe', huh?

Like I said, I hate the internet. It plucks random people from obscurity, launches them into superstardom for no fucking reason, and we all soak it up while actual experts are ignored. Fad goes out of fashion, pick another one. Do it all over again.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:26 am
by DaveDodo007
Keating wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:[youtube]W7I92r9GqUw[/youtube]
One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.
You're right, you are not reading enough right wing news sources.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:28 am
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Keating wrote:Oh, I got one: Faith Yes More
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:32 am
by Ericb
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Keating wrote: One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.
You're right, you are not reading enough right wing news sources.
Here's one


://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2 ... eorge-soro

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:34 am
by Ericb

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:37 am
by DaveDodo007
Cuckseratives don't count because cucks.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:45 am
by comhcinc
DaveDodo007 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
People like to say atheists hate christians and god and such and there are a group of or mostly young atheist that do.

But I have found that the real hate come from the alternative religion crowd. Wiccans and the such just drip vile for christians and they seem to hold on to that well into their 50s.
Well the Christians did burn them at the stake and whatnot, so there is that I suppose.

No they didn't. At most they burned some people they kinda sorta connect with hundreds of years ago.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:49 am
by DaveDodo007
Shatterface wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.
They named the boat after a non-scientist?

Why not his brother, who cloned dinosaurs?
As online naming things go it beats 'Hitler did nothing wrong' by a country mile. :P

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:49 am
by feathers
KiwiInOz wrote:RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.
I am somehow wary of naming streets, vessels etc. after people still alive, even if they're 90 yrs old. Let's first make sure they don't have too many skeletons in the closet after they die.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:51 am
by comhcinc
Ape+lust wrote:
Amy has forgotten she's already given the t-shirt company permission to sell their knock-off. They've been grovelling, but that could turn into giving her the finger if they found out :D

OOPS!
Well Creative Commons doesn't actually do anything if Amy wants to press it. It would be a shitty thing to do but she has the right to enforce her IP.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:51 am
by Shatterface
feathers wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.
I am somehow wary of naming streets, vessels etc. after people still alive, even if they're 90 yrs old. Let's first make sure they don't have too many skeletons in the closet after they die.
Those gorillas gave clear consent.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:54 am
by comhcinc
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Cuckseratives don't count because cucks.
[youtube]SE6jy78tV78[/youtube]

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:56 am
by comhcinc
ERV wrote: Kind of.
Woot I kind of understand something!




I'll take it.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:04 am
by Kirbmarc
comhcinc wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
People like to say atheists hate christians and god and such and there are a group of or mostly young atheist that do.

But I have found that the real hate come from the alternative religion crowd. Wiccans and the such just drip vile for christians and they seem to hold on to that well into their 50s.
Well the Christians did burn them at the stake and whatnot, so there is that I suppose.

No they didn't. At most they burned some people they kinda sorta connect with hundreds of years ago.
Wiccas are witch-kins. It's all identity politics. Many wiccas are sjws, too.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:06 am
by comhcinc
Wiccans are like hipster sjws. They were into demanding made up identities before it was cool.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:20 am
by John D
comhcinc wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:
Cuckseratives don't count because cucks.
[youtube]SE6jy78tV78[/youtube]
Cuckoid is an old word. It is found in older literature and then fell out of favor. A hundred years ago a cuckold was a man who was married to a woman who manipulated him. She was only married to him for his money or power. Often she was younger and more attractive than he. She was generally unfaithful... and this during a time when cheating was a big deal to people.

So... in general... my interpretation of a cuckold is a manipulated husband.

Webster simply says this:
Full Definition of cuckold
: a man whose wife is unfaithful
cuckold transitive verb

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:22 am
by AndrewV69
Steersman wrote: <choppage>
First Angola and now China (more or less); one hopes it's the beginning of a (reasoned) stampede, more or less.
China has always had no problem dealing very harshly with any minority group that they believe may, or might, never mind is, giving them the least bit of a problem.

They will go N.Korea on your ass at the slightest excuse. Other than that China is pretty easygoing.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:24 am
by comhcinc
You are right John but recently it has been used for a fetish and from that fetish it's being used but people as an insult by butthurt people.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:26 am
by Keating
Ericb wrote:One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/w ... ros-044343[/quote]

That's kinda my point. I can also find plenty of "Why do lefties hate the Koch brothers?" articles. I've never bothered to read up much on either, but I've seen enough articles from left wing sites complaining about how much money and influence they inject into right wing causes, and several articles from right wing sites complaining about how much money and influence Soros injects into left wing causes.

Seems to me the problem is either both or neither. Either the large influence money buys is bad, or it's a fair part of the process that rich people are able to engage in.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:27 am
by Keating
comhcinc wrote:You are right John but recently it has been used for a fetish and from that fetish it's being used but people as an insult by butthurt people.
I've understood 'cuck' to now refer to people who enjoy watching their country get fucked.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:28 am
by Keating
At least we now have a new word to have an endless debate about the meaning of.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:46 am
by Kirbmarc
AndrewV69 wrote:
Steersman wrote: <choppage>
First Angola and now China (more or less); one hopes it's the beginning of a (reasoned) stampede, more or less.
China has always had no problem dealing very harshly with any minority group that they believe may, or might, never mind is, giving them the least bit of a problem.

They will go N.Korea on your ass at the slightest excuse. Other than that China is pretty easygoing.
If North Korea explicitly outlawed Islam, Steersman would made plenty of positive references to Kim Jong Un in our forums.

Steersman is convinced that authoritarian Islam is the only threat to democracy and human rights. I think that it's just one of many, and that siding for one and against another is like cheering for Ted Bundy if he killed Ed Gein.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:50 am
by Old_ones
feathers wrote:Queens of the stoned age
Infidel Decapitation

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:03 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Brive1987 wrote:Yes, some poor bastard didn't get the "end all rational debate' memo.

http://i.imgur.com/ypJ1dow.jpg
Link?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:06 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Allahu Lewis and the Ackbars

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:06 am
by dogen
KiwiInOz wrote:RRS Sir David Attenborough with Boaty McBoatface to be the name of one of the submersibles.
Fuck, I read that as 'RIP'. Gave me a scare.

If we can just get to the end of 2016 without more reaping...

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:09 am
by Matt Cavanaugh
Keating wrote:
Ericb wrote:One thing I've started wondering is why Soros doesn't get as much hate as the Koch brothers. Maybe this just means that I'm not reading enough right-wing news sources.

http://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/w ... ros-044343
That's kinda my point. I can also find plenty of "Why do lefties hate the Koch brothers?" articles. I've never bothered to read up much on either, but I've seen enough articles from left wing sites complaining about how much money and influence they inject into right wing causes, and several articles from right wing sites complaining about how much money and influence Soros injects into left wing causes.

Seems to me the problem is either both or neither. Either the large influence money buys is bad, or it's a fair part of the process that rich people are able to engage in.[/quote]
The answer is:
c) It's Okay When We Do It™

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:14 am
by Old_ones
Of the Bomb and the Moon
Terrorizer
Allah Enthroned
Imam Amarth