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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:04 pm
by ConcentratedH2O, OM
Brive1987 wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Fuck, fuck, fuck.

Fuck.

Goodbye, mate. I hope you knew you had friends and you didn't die alone.
What he said.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:09 pm
by Skep tickle
comhcinc wrote:So not to take away from people's mourning but I hey I have a job interview tomorrow. This has the potential of being something good.
Make sure to ask, early & often, about their bathroom policy.



jk, of course - hope it goes really well.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:09 pm
by Matt Cavanaugh
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Very, very sad.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:16 pm
by Pitchguest
Oh John.

John.

Goddamnit.

I'll miss you, buddy. :(

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:20 pm
by Brive1987
I still feel cold from shock.

But I am going to focus on this: he died in his house, while in (semi) acceptable health and knowing he was part of a community. His terms. His decision. That we all could be so lucky.

That said, he was dealt a shitty hand and I wish he could have found a professional niche somewhere. 59 is no where near time enough.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:23 pm
by fuzzy
So Com that 1991 Greensboro birthday pic I posted a while back that's the late 'Robin Green' ifirc transitioning to 'Woman' as Flair's valet.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/56 ... 8a2247.jpg

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:27 pm
by comhcinc
Skep tickle wrote:
comhcinc wrote:So not to take away from people's mourning but I hey I have a job interview tomorrow. This has the potential of being something good.
Make sure to ask, early & often, about their bathroom policy.



jk, of course - hope it goes really well.

I figure if the interview starts to go bad I will claim I am woman and if they don't give me a job immediately I will sue them for being transphobic. I am sure this strategy will work :twatson:

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:29 pm
by ERV
One of the original Pitters. I've been reading his comments since July 2011. God fucking dammit.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:31 pm
by comhcinc
fuzzy wrote:So Com that 1991 Greensboro birthday pic I posted a while back that's the late 'Robin Green' ifirc transitioning to 'Woman' as Flair's valet.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/56 ... 8a2247.jpg

Woman was hot.

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/w ... /20-12.jpg

At a time when WWE was doing pure trash Woman showned it was possible to be sexy without being a trashy and also was a great performer.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:39 pm
by Tigzy
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
He was a good bloke. Deserved much better. I'll miss his presence at the Pit - always enjoyed reading of his frequent exasperations at the FTB crew. What a bloody shame.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:44 pm
by Pitchguest
Man, it's times like these where I wish I could just shower the people I care about with riches so they wouldn't have to worry about where to live, and when to eat and drink. That they know they'll always be safe, in that regard at least.

Recently I've wasted so much money on shit that don't even matter anymore. Just totally meaningless. God. I'm such an asshole.

I'm sorry, John. You'll be remembered. I won't forget.

On that note. I'm sorry to hear about your mum too, Clarence. Stay safe.

This year, man. This year. What a pisser.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:54 pm
by Tigzy
Just so everyone knows, there's an online book of condolences for John here:http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/thepro ... 7?cid=full

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:57 pm
by Lsuoma
Just fuck it all.

Gutted, simply gutted.

Greg/John was one of the stalwarts of the Pit, and it's a slightly less slimy and patriarchal hellhole without him.

Incidentally, he had friends beyond the Pit - the Red-Shirted One emailed me today to ask if I knew anything about Greg, since he (the RSO) had some work for him.

I really haz a sad now.

Clarence - take care.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:03 pm
by fuzzy
fuzzy wrote:[...] transitioning to 'Woman' [...]
comhcinc wrote:
[...] I will claim I am woman [...]
:nin:

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:09 pm
by Tigzy
Lsuoma wrote: Incidentally, he had friends beyond the Pit - the Red-Shirted One emailed me today to ask if I knew anything about Greg, since he (the RSO) had some work for him.
So if John had stuck around a little longer - or the offer of work had arrived sooner - then there might have been a way to get out of those troubles.

Well that's one of life's crueller jokes, isn't it.

Shit.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:11 pm
by Aneris
:(

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:22 pm
by Lsuoma
Tigzy wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: Incidentally, he had friends beyond the Pit - the Red-Shirted One emailed me today to ask if I knew anything about Greg, since he (the RSO) had some work for him.
So if John had stuck around a little longer - or the offer of work had arrived sooner - then there might have been a way to get out of those troubles.

Well that's one of life's crueller jokes, isn't it.

Shit.
Well, it wasn't a lot of money, but having an offer from the Nugster would likely have been a boost.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:35 pm
by fuzzy
I wasn't around for the pyt's formative years, so I didn't know John as well the longertimers. My cat with the balls got hit by a car not long after that pic, and I went to the local shelter the next day and got a similar looking 1-or-2 year old male who had kept his testicles until later in life so he has that bigger head and chest dimorphism thing going on that cats socially construct, ha ha. The sensitive granddaughter-ish girl of mine need never know this isn't the same cat. I have lots of extremely cute video of this cat playing with local dog. A lot of time goes into interacting with friends, so that you know what to expect of each other, and it becomes comfortable, and it feeds on itself, and there is an empty space were fun good humor and thought used to be. Fare well, John.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:37 pm
by Bourne Skeptic
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
RIP John, you'll be missed.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:50 pm
by AndrewV69
Terrible news about John Greg.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:19 pm
by blitzem
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Late last week I searched the Vancouver Sun obits for "John Greg" but came up empty. I was under the obviously incorrect opinion that it was his full name.

TY for letting us know, Skep.

RIP John.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:24 pm
by TheMan
It is a sad day....

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Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:27 pm
by John D
RIP John

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:32 pm
by Really?
RIP John. Most of us know he will indeed rest in peace because he is no longer in existence, but I hope he had more joy than unhappiness in his life and that we can all improve our own lives for having known him Pit-style.

Here is an image of near-incomprehensible beauty to help us reflect. (It's a panorama taken by the Mars Rover Curiosity.)

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/msl/2014 ... 31-640.jpg

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:32 pm
by H. Korban
Terribly sad to hear about John. I did not know him well, but still it feels sad a great guy has passed away, suffering due to things not in his hands. Sad that we as humans drive other humans to despair and death over mere and unimportant things like money. RIP.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:43 pm
by Za-zen
Mourning is the curse of the living. The man went out, as we know he lived from his participation here. Own his own terms. People of intellectual honesty are a rare breed, and we're poorer for his parting.

Sleep well brother.

[youtube]tCrHyhIqD7U[/youtube]

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:45 pm
by Ericb
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
This sucks. RIP John.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:50 pm
by Ericb
Clarence wrote:Well, I know the past year or so has been uber-shitty for many on the 'pit'.

Now , it's struck me as well.

I lost my grandmother this January.
I didn't say anything about it here that I recall because I hardly ever bring my real life to social media (except for my opinions).
Plus, she was 93 and had been slowly dying since her accident and operation over the previous months. So it wasn't unexpected. She had a long life.

Now my mom has died. At 72, when most of the women on her side of the family at least hit 80. With no warning, no obvious physical health issues. The only consolation is that it seems to have happened in her bed, while she was sleeping.

So now I'm dealing with arranging a funeral for the first time in my life.

And while not as important to me as family, Prince and David Bowie died this year as probably 99 percent of you know. I know some people here have been struggling with lack of a job or personal illness and while I haven't said anything to ALL of you , I have read about and sympathized with each and every one.

2016 is turning out to be a really shitty year :(
Sorry to hear. I know what you are going through. My dad died when he was only 61 and while my mom is still alive at 81 she no longer knows who I am.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:59 pm
by d4m10n
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: If he entered out of turn I'd probably give points to the other driver.
1) It's a given that Adam is a spineless, wet-rag of a douchebag, by virtue of him being The Skank's domestic thrall;

2) Spineless, wet-rag, douchebag thralls all drive like assholes, road-rage & assholishness being their only compensation for having had their testicles removed;

3) Said douchebag geldings are further enraged for having to drive the über-sissy putzmobiles foisted upon them by their dominatrixes, i.e., drab-colored mini-vans, light blue family sedans, mauve Ford Focusi, Cooper Minii (only cool if you're gay), Pruisi, etc.;

4) All this leads to a significant majority of traffic incidents being caused by neutered douchebags driving sissy vehicles. (Steve Shives is surely a menace to society behind the wheel);

5) The best & only response to dickhead driving by these dickless wonders is to aggressively attempt to ram, cut-off, block, blow past at high speed, casually meander into their lane, or slow to a crawl when being tailgated by them. Generally, this smacks them down to their proper omega male rung on the social totem pole and into docile, deferential driving patterns, at least until the next pegging at home.
*dominatrices

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:06 pm
by Old_ones
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Fuck. Fuuuuck. You won't be forgotten, friend.

:o :cry:

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:09 pm
by d4m10n
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Fuck. Any idea what happened?

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:10 pm
by Eskarina
RIP John

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:16 pm
by Za-zen
d4m10n wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Fuck. Any idea what happened?
I am operating under the assumption (as i assume others here are too) that he ended his life. A few moths ago he indicated he planned to, as his financial and housing situation were in serious crisis, and at his age he'd rather end it, than endure the realities of vagrancy.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:18 pm
by d4m10n
Thanks for the info, Za-zen.

How awful.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:25 pm
by comhcinc
Za-zen wrote:
d4m10n wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:I'd searched earlier for news online about John Greg, nothing had turned up, but I'm sorry to report that on another try just now this bad, sad news turned up:

Obituary

Jesus. :cry:
Fuck. Any idea what happened?
I am operating under the assumption (as i assume others here are too) that he ended his life. A few moths ago he indicated he planned to, as his financial and housing situation were in serious crisis, and at his age he'd rather end it, than endure the realities of vagrancy.

If I remember correctly he was having issues with his landlord. I hope he made it messy.

I am not concerned at all with John's family. He indicated they did not take him seriously at all and did not care if he became homeless.

I worry about Phil. He was cracking jokes earlier today. I know it came from a place of caring so Phil when you read this. It's cool. John laughed at that joke.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:26 pm
by comhcinc
Ericb wrote:
Sorry to hear. I know what you are going through. My dad died when he was only 61 and while my mom is still alive at 81 she no longer knows who I am.

It's probably that bag on your head.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:28 pm
by Za-zen
Don't worry about Phil, he's come back from the dead so many times he should have his own religion by now.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:30 pm
by CaptainFluffyBunny
G'bye John. Left on his own terms. I will take some beers down to the garage and make some music to honor his memory.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:41 pm
by Spike13
Oh shit.... R.I.P John, you will be missed.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:42 pm
by Spike13
Clarence, if you feel you need to unload or just vent, we're all here for you.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:00 pm
by Easy J
I went to a funeral of a friend who hung himself some months back. I was drinking with a friend & having the sort of odd, unfiltered conversation that I tended to have with him. We agreed to call one another & at least give the other a fair chance to talk us out of it if it ever came to that.

John pretty much did that for us on his own. I don't want to affirm this in any way, but I have to say that I wouldn't have handled it with half the class he did, & from what little I have to go on I get the feeling that he was thinking more clearly than I usually do. Not sure what to say, but I felt like I had to say something. Gonna go find some cat videos & try not to think too much. We lost a good one.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:01 pm
by Brive1987

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:05 pm
by comhcinc
Brive. That is very awesome and reminds me very much of Monty Python. We should get some money up and have that printed in his local paper.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:05 pm
by Lurky McLurk
:(

Rest in peace, John Greg.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:06 pm
by Really?
comhcinc wrote:
Za-zen wrote:
I am operating under the assumption (as i assume others here are too) that he ended his life. A few moths ago he indicated he planned to, as his financial and housing situation were in serious crisis, and at his age he'd rather end it, than endure the realities of vagrancy.

If I remember correctly he was having issues with his landlord. I hope he made it messy.

I am not concerned at all with John's family. He indicated they did not take him seriously at all and did not care if he became homeless.

I worry about Phil. He was cracking jokes earlier today. I know it came from a place of caring so Phil when you read this. It's cool. John laughed at that joke.
I don't want to think about that. All I can think about is the utter lack of regard those in the US or Canada have for suicidal people...who happen to be men. Just this week, I saw a discussion amongst some people who mourned suicide as an issue primarily for women. You know, male tears...ignore the stats...all of that stuff.

Unlike those pieces of shit, I want everyone to have access to the help they need, regardless of race, gender or whatever else you can come up with.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:19 pm
by jugheadnaut
Sorry to add to the downer vibe today, but my own piece of bad news for 2016 is that I had a moderate stroke in the first week of March. The good news is that now, about eight weeks later, I've made something approaching a full recovery. My main issue at this point is that concentration requires more effort, and if I do it for more than 5-6 hours at a time, I get very tired.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:20 pm
by Bourne Skeptic

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:22 pm
by Really?
jugheadnaut wrote:Sorry to add to the downer vibe today, but my own piece of bad news for 2016 is that I had a moderate stroke in the first week of March. The good news is that now, about eight weeks later, I've made something approaching a full recovery. My main issue at this point is that concentration requires more effort, and if I do it for more than 5-6 hours at a time, I get very tired.
I am sorry, but I am glad you are getting better. If you'll permit a mild joke, being able to concentrate for 5-6 hours at a time puts you 4.9-5.9 hours ahead of the average attention span of anyone under the age of 25.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:26 pm
by comhcinc
jugheadnaut wrote:Sorry to add to the downer vibe today, but my own piece of bad news for 2016 is that I had a moderate stroke in the first week of March. The good news is that now, about eight weeks later, I've made something approaching a full recovery. My main issue at this point is that concentration requires more effort, and if I do it for more than 5-6 hours at a time, I get very tired.

Boo! the first part. Yay! the second part.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:27 pm
by comhcinc
You assholes are making me afraid to go to sleep.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:27 pm
by Brive1987
jugheadnaut wrote:Sorry to add to the downer vibe today, but my own piece of bad news for 2016 is that I had a moderate stroke in the first week of March. The good news is that now, about eight weeks later, I've made something approaching a full recovery. My main issue at this point is that concentration requires more effort, and if I do it for more than 5-6 hours at a time, I get very tired.
They always said the pit was toxic - but this is getting ridiculous. ;)

Good luck with your recovery. And congrats you are still here!

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:29 pm
by katamari Damassi
Sorry to hear about John. I hope he knew he had friends here.

Also sorry to hear about your mom Clarence. It doesn't matter how old you are, when you lose both parents you feel like an orphan.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:31 pm
by Brive1987
comhcinc wrote:Brive. That is very awesome and reminds me very much of Monty Python. We should get some money up and have that printed in his local paper.
Thanks. :? It's a sad day.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:36 pm
by Brive1987
Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:[.img]http://i.imgur.com/XzPEz72.jpg[/img]
The man liked his hats. :)

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:42 pm
by jugheadnaut
comhcinc wrote:You assholes are making me afraid to go to sleep.
Yes, if I had just decided I was feeling like shit and gone to sleep that night (Mar. 5) most likely I never would have woken up. Luckily, I was at my girlfriend's place, and when she returned from an event it awoke me from a nap, and when I tried to ask her if she had a good time, I realized I couldn't speak properly. I asked her how my face looked and she said it was drooping on one side and I immediately realized I was having a stroke and told her we had to get to the hospital immediately. Canadian hospitals are really on the ball when it comes to strokes, and I had a CAT scan within 20 minutes of arrival, and they found my right carotid artery was almost totally blocked and a large clot had come off it and caused an ischemic stroke. Alarmingly, they saw several other clots in the area. Although it was a weekend, within 4 hours I had a surgical procedure called an endarterectomy which opens up the neck and carotid artery and removes the plaque.

One piece of medical advice for people: if you're getting very short periods of numbness on one side of your body (in my case, it was my forehead for a few weeks before the stroke), don't shrug it off. You should seek medical attention as it may be something called a transient ischemic attack, which, while not dangerous in itself is a reliable predictor of an imminent stroke.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:06 pm
by Guest_79e2e8e7
surf's up

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:19 pm
by MarcusAu
RIP John Glen

From his comments in the Pit - there was obviously more good than bad in the ledger.

He made this place more a thoughtful and interesting place to be.


Condolences to Clarence and anyone else going though rough times at the moment, also.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:57 pm
by feathers
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Oh dear.

Adam has totalled Becky's red mini. I fear it will be a dreary strap-on less month for him.
On the contrary, she'll retaliate by wrecking his purple starfish.
You have a purple asshole?
After the strapon intrusion probably, yes.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:03 pm
by Phil_Giordana_FCD
Well, fuck!

Farewell John.

Hang in there Clarence.

Nothing else to say right now.

Re: The Refuge of the Toads

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:11 pm
by jg64
So sorry to hear about Greg. He was a good 'un.

Condolences to Clarence, sorry to hear about your mam.