Just one side note on Ania Bula.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:"Ania Bula"
Isn't this triggering for people suffering from bulimia?
I see your point, but she contributes to the ubiquity of the SJW bullshit that is fucking up the Western world.Guest_84d94f98 wrote:Just one side note on Ania Bula.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:"Ania Bula"
Isn't this triggering for people suffering from bulimia?
Yes, she had the funny kickstarter for her own network that evidently did not take off. And she lists ailments and issues as credentials. But as far as I know, she hasn't been fucking with anyone or causing anyone else harm.
In my book, you can be as weird as you want to be, so long as you are not hurting other people.
-Soylent f98
Hadn't considered the possibility, but this person could maybe become a victim of the FTB culture. She's already apologised for, basically, being able to breathe normally, and it's just getting started.Guest_84d94f98 wrote:Just one side note on Ania Bula.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:"Ania Bula"
Isn't this triggering for people suffering from bulimia?
Yes, she had the funny kickstarter for her own network that evidently did not take off. And she lists ailments and issues as credentials. But as far as I know, she hasn't been fucking with anyone or causing anyone else harm.
In my book, you can be as weird as you want to be, so long as you are not hurting other people.
-Soylent f98
So you would stand with those who insisted to Benson that "trans women are women"?Pitchguest wrote:Okay. So, I know we were talking about Danielle Muscato before and how he/she haven't made an effort at all to transition and therefore it's a bit absurd to expect someone to look at Danielle and say, "Yep, that's a woman."
Well. Here's why.
[.img]http://41.media.tumblr.com/972c4c30a6f1 ... 1_1280.jpg[/img]
This is Laith Ashley. He's a man, and a model as you can clearly see. But he was born a woman.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/10/me ... n-runways/
This person is biologically female. But he doesn't look it and THAT is how you can tell the difference between those that make the effort and those that don't.
Indeed.Last month, a 42-year-old English accountant who goes by the pseudonym Helen Highwater wrote a blog post disputing the idea that trans women are women.* Helen is trans herself; in the last few years, she says, she has taken all the steps the U.K.’s National Health Service requires before it authorizes gender reassignment surgery, which she plans to have in 2016. Yet she has come to reject the idea that she is truly female or that she ever will be. Though “trans women are women” has become a trans rights rallying cry, Highwater writes, it primes trans women for failure, disappointment, and cognitive dissonance. She calls it a “vicious lie".
You left out cosplay.Guestus Aurelius wrote:Holy shit I caught up.
Orbit.
Hulk.
(I hope that saves somebody 20 pages of scrolling.)
The teen was shot in the chest. One might assume it was dark. You might also assume that she would be scared for her life seeing a stranger crawling out of her backyard window. This isn't a situation where he was fleeing from the property and she could just stay inside and be safe.John D wrote:It was a joke. I understand why cops fire multiple times.
At the same time, I feel no pity for the dead kid or his family.... but... I am a total fucking asshole when it comes to burglars. Especially people who steel from old ladies. Fuckem into the ground.
The attitude of the family is the problem. "Homey from the hood jus be tryin to suvive... dat mean ole lady shooda give him a cookie cause he be hungry too." Fucking barbarians. If my kid was caught steeling I would be horrified and ashamed. What ever happened to shame? Doen't anybody feel shame for anything anymore? Fucking barbarians.
I would think the majority of the British public would see it a little more like this...Guest_84d94f98 wrote:You just stand back, laugh, and say "This is not my fucking problem." Also know that pretty much every woman's restroom has enclosed stalls so the issue of bodily privacy is over blown anyway.Stout wrote:The "problem" with Muscato's gender identity comes up when the trans and bathroom issue gets raised. Let just say that I've never met a shitlord who has any sort of a problem with a woman niping into the men's because there's a huge line up for the woman's and she's really got to go.
These bathroom issued seem to be solely centered around the man in the ladies room.
Just whose side is a shitlord like me supposed to take were I to find myself caught in the middle. Either I'm a transphobe or some sort of rape apologist. If Muscato was making at least an effort I could probably weasel around with words like "the idea is that non passing trans women are trying to get themselves considered women" in order to appear impartial but with Muscato I figure I'd just find myself trying to defend someone who could realistically be described as a pervert.
About the only time this really becomes a problem is in public changing rooms at swim pools & high school where underage & teen girls who are still working on their self confidence & body image issues need to strip down.
Apart from some of the ones with a history of abuse like Svan, I harbor no ill will for any of the Orbitters. I think some of them come across as assholes but I expect that the inevitable infighting will be all the punishment they deserve. And I don't have any strong desire to fan the flames. I'd rather just watch.Guest_84d94f98 wrote:Just one side note on Ania Bula.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:"Ania Bula"
Isn't this triggering for people suffering from bulimia?
Yes, she had the funny kickstarter for her own network that evidently did not take off. And she lists ailments and issues as credentials. But as far as I know, she hasn't been fucking with anyone or causing anyone else harm.
In my book, you can be as weird as you want to be, so long as you are not hurting other people.
-Soylent f98
screwtape wrote:And his first post at the Orbit:
He goes on to say that the way they pay more to low traffic blogs is very important to him (can't imagine why).If Friendly Atheist readers were wondering, the reason Pharyngula isn’t hosted here is that a network cofounded by PZ Myers already exists: our network isn’t that network, and it works differently.
So higher traffic blogs, if they come about, will have an incentive to leave if they feel they can either do it on their own, or get a higher cut of the pie.Ronald MdDonald's bastard child wrote:At FTB, proceeds from ad revenue after hosting costs are divided among bloggers according to how much traffic they get: if you get five percent of the site’s hits, you get five percent of the cash. The Orbit’s system differs in two ways. Firstly, now that we’ve raised enough on Kickstarter to cover our first year of hosting costs, all ad revenue will go directly toward paying writers. Secondly, only half the total will be allocated by views the same way as at FTB; the other half will be divided equally between all bloggers.
No she isn't.Pitchguest wrote:Okay. So, I know we were talking about Danielle Muscato before and how he/she haven't made an effort at all to transition and therefore it's a bit absurd to expect someone to look at Danielle and say, "Yep, that's a woman."
Well.
Here's why.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/972c4c30a6f1 ... 1_1280.jpg
This is Laith Ashley.
He's a man, *snip*
https://washingtonpost.com/news/morning ... onal_pop_bfuzzy wrote:She wasn't in the house as it was burglarized; she was alerted by an alarm and rushed home to confront the burglar. Not clear that home defense laws are applicable, but of course IANAL.comhcinc wrote:
Oh I am pretty sure she was well in her legal rights no matter exactly how the story went down. It's the morality of it that I am withholding judgement on.
-Soylent f98WashingtonPost wrote:But Florida law goes far beyond this “Stand Your Ground” law, which became the focal point in the 2012 shooting of another 17-year-old, Trayvon Martin, in Sanford, Fla.
Instead, in Florida, anybody who “unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person’s dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.”
That means that homeowners are presumed to have “reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another” whenever someone “unlawfully and forcefully” enters their house, essentially giving homeowners broad license to shoot at intruders.
Florida law also provides homeowners who shoot intruders with sweeping protections against civil lawsuits, meaning Johnson’s family is unlikely to receive a wrongful death settlement.
Patreon is still active, but is only taking in $10/month.Ania Onion Bula wrote:9 months ago
With 5 Days Left in our Fundraiser, people are probably wondering what we are going to do if we don't raise the funds we need.
With the money we've raised so far, we can get started with implementing a very basic network. We have already contracted someone to help us with setting up the server. The same person who set up the new FTB server. We are very excited to be working with him in setting up the network.
Going from there, we will set up the Patreon and use the funds generated from the to start building the network further. It will mean slowing down our dreams of publishing a little bit, although we may be able to venture into single ebooks for the time being.
We are excited to move forward with this venture, and every donation that comes in from here on in will go towards building a solid foundation on which to build our publishing and business dreams.
Only if I catch you breaking into my home. In Florida. ;-)Brive1987 wrote:I hope for no evil to befall danielle. And when I consider his gender confusion and attempted transition, I am filled with equal measure sadness and mirth.
So shoot me.
I'll readily agree with you that he isn't a man - i.e., a human able to produce sperm. But I still think you're probably barking up the "rong" tree by arguing they are still a woman - i.e., a female human, a person able to produce ova. Given the obvious effects of hormone treatments on them - a pretty impressive and "masculine" physique - I would rather doubt they're still able to do so.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:No she isn't.Pitchguest wrote:Okay. So, I know we were talking about Danielle Muscato before and how he/she haven't made an effort at all to transition and therefore it's a bit absurd to expect someone to look at Danielle and say, "Yep, that's a woman."
Well.
Here's why.
[.img]http://41.media.tumblr.com/972c4c30a6f1 ... 1_1280.jpg[/img]
This is Laith Ashley.
He's a man, *snip*
If you were a gay man and unsuspectingly hooked up with her in a bar, you would be right to feel the same as the hypothetical straight-man-who-finds-out-he-has-slept-with-a-shim that often gets cited on the Pit.
It is not a man, it is a woman with a dildo glued on.
That must stand for "Special Justice Needs", am I right?Brive1987 wrote:FtB clearly met neither the SJ collegiate needs, financial needs or SJ needs.
It's totally nothing to do with Gamergate. GGers are pitching a tent because they hate Kotaku's Steven Totilo and Nathan Grayson, as well as Sam Biddle (ex-Kotaku, ex-Valleywag), and therefore Nick Denton and Gawker by extension.CommanderTuvok wrote: Well, whether it is a victory for GG or not, a LOT of SJWs on social media are gnashing their teeth about GamerGate in reference to the Hulk verdict. That is fine by me, whether GG gets the glory or not.
With those Nikes, they'd never be allowed to board the Zllotnx-4 chasing Hale-Bopp. Zllotnx-4 is Adidas-only as every citizen in the galaxy ought to know. Such a tragic waste of lunatic life.comhcinc wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27 ... ous_group)ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Who's in that photo? It looks like something Walter Ego would post.Really? wrote:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/ ... _large.jpg
The reasons you can't 'fathom why' Gawker would 'choose this hill to die on' are two:Cnutella wrote:It's totally nothing to do with Gamergate. GGers are pitching a tent because they hate Kotaku's Steven Totilo and Nathan Grayson, as well as Sam Biddle (ex-Kotaku, ex-Valleywag), and therefore Nick Denton and Gawker by extension.CommanderTuvok wrote: Well, whether it is a victory for GG or not, a LOT of SJWs on social media are gnashing their teeth about GamerGate in reference to the Hulk verdict. That is fine by me, whether GG gets the glory or not.
Although my sympathies are with Gamergate, it's becoming increasingly obvious that their definition of ethics in journalism is shifting from poor journalistic practice to whether a publication or writer's perspective is approved or not. That's not really a positive direction for journalistic freedom.
Anyway, the Hogan/Gawker case isn't some great victory for free speech. Little though I care for Gawker, I can't fathom why this was the hill they chose to die on. This was a victory of big money over money + hubris. What impact it will have in terms of press or Internet freedom, if any, remains to be seen.
A couple of years ago I speculated that the endgame for SJWism would be when one of them openly shat themselves and then used it to score victim points.Service Dog wrote:Excellent advice. But...Matt Cavanaugh wrote:And this is why they invented therapy. To get over shit like this. Get some. Like now. No, really: get some.Ania Onion Buty wrote:Because I was convinced that I was fat, I avoided pink out of fear of hearing comparisons to pigs
In a Google+ chat with Zvan, Ania claimed she was limited to events on the ground floor of a conference because she couldn't climb a flight of stairs & couldn't find the elevator. Also, she has to leave conference events because of sudden bowel-movement emergencies.
So she's one shart away from being a half-dozen Carrie's strapped-together, but with shit instead of blood.
So maybe she really does need to worry about "presenting as" a pig.
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What I find interesting is that many of the really bad traits of pz myers is being carried on by at least some of The Orbit bloggers.Clarence wrote:I must admit that "The Oribit" is hilarious and I look forward to its coming explosive destruction, even as I wonder how such poor excuses for human beings can find space to spread their mental poisons again and again.
I mean the crap with radfems and such I understand: direct incentives for power and money.
But these goofballs are not only destroying their own "personal brands" but making SJW ideology look like the sick joke that it is. Almost everything about this blog is negative, they almost certainly won't make much money and I doubt they will even be able to stick together long enough to take down a 'shitlord' or two, so what is the point?
Yes. The kickstarter. The Do you really think it costs them $5,000 to start up (which they did prior to the kickstarter) & run a blog network for a year?Brive1987 wrote:If they don't get there arses into gear Alex's first 50% ad pay check will be in Monopoly money. Or am I missing these golden egg laying adverts?
They currently have raised $7,103.Kickstarter wrote:This includes incorporation, setup, and paying for our servers.
Well, yeah, I'd expect they have the common courtesy to tell a potential partner about their predicament, however for all intents and purposes, she is a man. She looks like a man, acts like a man. I mean, that's at least the criteria I'd think of when someone's transitioning. To look the part. Or attempt to, anyway. Instead of not even bothering, like Danielle Muscato.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:No she isn't.Pitchguest wrote:Okay. So, I know we were talking about Danielle Muscato before and how he/she haven't made an effort at all to transition and therefore it's a bit absurd to expect someone to look at Danielle and say, "Yep, that's a woman."
Well.
Here's why.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/972c4c30a6f1 ... 1_1280.jpg
This is Laith Ashley.
He's a man, *snip*
If you were a gay man and unsuspectingly hooked up with her in a bar, you would be right to feel the same as the hypothetical straight-man-who-finds-out-he-has-slept-with-a-shim that often gets cited on the Pit.
It is not a man, it is a woman with a dildo glued on.
Yeah, because woe-betide a network of blogs writers be prejudiced in favour of people who are able to write blogs.Alex McGabriel wrote: All kinds of factors influence traffic to someone’s blog beyond how good it is—how much spare time they have, when they started and who they know, their physical ability to write—and we want to help smaller blogs on their way up.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1HUQo9CIAAUrcz.png:largeClarence wrote:
The reasons you can't 'fathom why' Gawker would 'choose this hill to die on' are two:
A. Legally Gawker knows it will likely somewhat win on Appeal and get the result greatly reduced IF they can find the funding to get to appeal, which Denton has supposedly assured is no problem.
B. You refuse to recognize that Gawker has an ideology here, mostly of destroying anyone they don't like. They were vicious in how they released the 'nigger' comment by Hogan, when he said in a supposed private conversation that he'd have trouble controlling his prejudice if his daughter dated a black (he didn't use that word) man. I'd also argue that they aren't a news organization but a combination of tabloid and propoganda (almost none of their victims are SJW's or SJW friendly and hell, they have plenty of nutty SJW's writing for them) rag.
Fuck them into the ground. Even winning this appeal is going to hurt them and they still will probably end up owing Hulk quite a bit of something.
Quite right. Here's the restored photo.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:That's going too far. please keep your shoops to a decent level of acceptability.Ape+lust wrote:You first :whistle:KiwiInOz wrote:Good as that explanation is, it's not answering the fucking question.
Malky was asking about your lived experience.
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I checked that before posting and naively took it on face value, thinking "hmmm pricey monthly plan there"Guest_84d94f98 wrote:Yes. The kickstarter. The Do you really think it costs them $5,000 to start up (which they did prior to the kickstarter) & run a blog network for a year?Brive1987 wrote:If they don't get there arses into gear Alex's first 50% ad pay check will be in Monopoly money. Or am I missing these golden egg laying adverts?
They currently have raised $7,103.Kickstarter wrote:This includes incorporation, setup, and paying for our servers.
22 Blogs.
$7,103 / 22 = $318.72 of near gravy per person.
However I wonder isn't they were not going to pay the other bloggers until after $5k, if Lousy Cannuk & Mr. Interference Services are collecting the lion's share of that initial $5k for enacting the labor of "setting things up."
And you're a fucking idiot. So if I look like I'm a surgeon then you'll let me perform surgery on you should you require it?Pitchguest wrote:Well, yeah, I'd expect they have the common courtesy to tell a potential partner about their predicament, however for all intents and purposes, she is a man. She looks like a man, acts like a man. I mean, that's at least the criteria I'd think of when someone's transitioning. To look the part. Or attempt to, anyway. Instead of not even bothering, like Danielle Muscato.ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:No she isn't. If you were a gay man and unsuspectingly hooked up with her in a bar, you would be right to feel the same as the hypothetical straight-man-who-finds-out-he-has-slept-with-a-shim that often gets cited on the Pit.Pitchguest wrote:Okay. So, I know we were talking about Danielle Muscato before and how he/she haven't made an effort at all to transition and therefore it's a bit absurd to expect someone to look at Danielle and say, "Yep, that's a woman."
Well. Here's why.
[.img]http://41.media.tumblr.com/972c4c30a6f1 ... 1_1280.jpg[/img]
This is Laith Ashley.
He's a man, *snip*
It is not a man, it is a woman with a dildo glued on.
Gawker affiliates like Kotaku and Polygon, et al, have all of them shown poor jornalistic practices. If the network should crash and burn, I say good riddance to bad rubbish. If Kotaku and Polygon by association should go under as well, all the better. I don't see how GG pitching a tent at their (Gawker's) demise and journalistic ethics are unrelated, seeing as the reason they're now in such dire straits has to do with their journalistic ethics (or lack thereof).Cnutella wrote:It's totally nothing to do with Gamergate. GGers are pitching a tent because they hate Kotaku's Steven Totilo and Nathan Grayson, as well as Sam Biddle (ex-Kotaku, ex-Valleywag), and therefore Nick Denton and Gawker by extension.CommanderTuvok wrote: Well, whether it is a victory for GG or not, a LOT of SJWs on social media are gnashing their teeth about GamerGate in reference to the Hulk verdict. That is fine by me, whether GG gets the glory or not.
Although my sympathies are with Gamergate, it's becoming increasingly obvious that their definition of ethics in journalism is shifting from poor journalistic practice to whether a publication or writer's perspective is approved or not. That's not really a positive direction for journalistic freedom.
Anyway, the Hogan/Gawker case isn't some great victory for free speech. Little though I care for Gawker, I can't fathom why this was the hill they chose to die on. This was a victory of big money over money + hubris. What impact it will have in terms of press or Internet freedom, if any, remains to be seen.
Let's see. A low end web developer will charge $40/hour. That may be overly gracious to classify Lousy as a low end web developer, but it is a start.Brive1987 wrote:I checked that before posting and naively took it on face value, thinking "hmmm pricey monthly plan there"
But now I can remember something about paying Lousy startup fees. Lost the ref though.
Woah. A bit too hostile, don't you think, Steers? Settle down.Steersman wrote:And you're a fucking idiot. So if I look like I'm a surgeon then you'll let me perform surgery on you should you require it?Pitchguest wrote:Well, yeah, I'd expect they have the common courtesy to tell a potential partner about their predicament, however for all intents and purposes, she is a man. She looks like a man, acts like a man. I mean, that's at least the criteria I'd think of when someone's transitioning. To look the part. Or attempt to, anyway. Instead of not even bothering, like Danielle Muscato.
You [magnificent] bastard.paddybrown wrote:Quite right. Here's the restored photo.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:That's going too far. please keep your shoops to a decent level of acceptability.Ape+lust wrote:
quote="KiwiInOz"]Good as that explanation is, it's not answering the fucking question.
Malky was asking about your lived experience./quote]
You first :whistle:
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http://s8.postimg.org/yvoa4buxx/t_ZCb13z.jpg
Gumby's Stefonknee-Oolon is a hoot and always cracks me up, though.Sunder wrote:I'll call someone what they want to be called, even if it sometimes seems farcical, and I'd prefer to ridicule them for the ugly people they are on the inside.
I mean, unless there's very strong evidence, as in the case of Stefonknee, that they're just a pervy fetishist.
110% This.rayshul wrote:Goshdarnit, stop throwing about pictures of RW in my country, guys. :/
I haven't been paying attention, but is he lashing out at people who have insulted him in the past or is it just random?Pitchguest wrote:Woah. A bit too hostile, don't you think, Steers? Settle down.
Now you are just being insulting....rayshul wrote:As it happens your man Laith has a perspective I like on this - '”People should be true to themselves – they don’t have to fit a box.” Same goes for Muscato.
Look, Muscato has the misfortune of being a 24 year old woman born trapped in the body of a gratuitously hairy 50-something burly man and you know what, there's not a terrific amount she can do about that without slowly driving herself insane. She made it clear when she came out that it was going to take some time to start looking even slightly female and clearly it's taking even longer than that because on a scale of 1 to female she's falling in on the physiological scale at -200. If she wears a dress or lippy she's going to be ridiculed in the street; and that beard looks like the type that regrow itself in 6 hours. Muscato is doing the best she can with the shit she got, and the best she can do is probably not what she wants, but that's life.
If the worst thing you could say about someone isn't half as bad as the genetic lottery they lost, fuck, why bother. She's a piece of shit because of what she did to Mark Schrierbecker, and not a Person of fucking PR is absolutely fucking right. But Muscato has never pumped the DIE CIS SCUM horn, and in my book she WAS a really positive atheist trans role model until she decided her autistic client was actually the devil.
I agree Muscato's appearance is not a big issue when it comes to judging her character.rayshul wrote:As it happens your man Laith has a perspective I like on this - '”People should be true to themselves – they don’t have to fit a box.” Same goes for Muscato.
Look, Muscato has the misfortune of being a 24 year old woman born trapped in the body of a gratuitously hairy 50-something burly man and you know what, there's not a terrific amount she can do about that without slowly driving herself insane. She made it clear when she came out that it was going to take some time to start looking even slightly female and clearly it's taking even longer than that because on a scale of 1 to female she's falling in on the physiological scale at -200. If she wears a dress or lippy she's going to be ridiculed in the street; and that beard looks like the type that regrow itself in 6 hours. Muscato is doing the best she can with the shit she got, and the best she can do is probably not what she wants, but that's life.
I can understand and sympathize with Muscato's predicament. She identifies as a woman and has a hard time presenting as one. Fine, that's pretty awful for her.rayshul wrote:As it happens your man Laith has a perspective I like on this - '”People should be true to themselves – they don’t have to fit a box.” Same goes for Muscato.
Look, Muscato has the misfortune of being a 24 year old woman born trapped in the body of a gratuitously hairy 50-something burly man and you know what, there's not a terrific amount she can do about that without slowly driving herself insane. She made it clear when she came out that it was going to take some time to start looking even slightly female and clearly it's taking even longer than that because on a scale of 1 to female she's falling in on the physiological scale at -200. If she wears a dress or lippy she's going to be ridiculed in the street; and that beard looks like the type that regrow itself in 6 hours. Muscato is doing the best she can with the shit she got, and the best she can do is probably not what she wants, but that's life.
If the worst thing you could say about someone isn't half as bad as the genetic lottery they lost, fuck, why bother. She's a piece of shit because of what she did to Mark Schrierbecker, and not a Person of fucking PR is absolutely fucking right. But Muscato has never pumped the DIE CIS SCUM horn, and in my book she WAS a really positive atheist trans role model until she decided her autistic client was actually the devil.
Shatterface wrote:Muscat didnt have a beard before transitioning. He grew it for the attention.
It's a 'How dare you misgender me!' beard.
I think that this is the main point of contention.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Empty or not, it's not something anyone who wants to be accepted should do. Same problem as with internet trans* activists. As was seen over at Michael Nugent's, I'm ready to indulge one's requests for special pronouns and such, just as long as they're not acting like an asshole. Once they do act like an asshole, I reserve the right to withdraw my previous considerations (whether Ardent Skeptic likes it or not :p)
