The Refuge of the Toads

#52501

deLurch wrote:
d4m10n wrote:One might well be forgiven for concluding that you and Mr. Kafir truly believe secular democracy would fucking lose to sharia law in a free marketplace of ideas.
<<sigh>> In Steersman's defense, or more specifically on who would win in a free market place of ideas between sharia law and secular democracy, radical islamists are not exactly competing with just ideas.

Take for example how many main stream media news companies and movie producers no longer will show images of Mohammad. The willingness to murder people who offend them kind of takes it out of an even fight on the exchange of ideas level. The staff of Charlie Hebdo was slaughtered. The author of Islamic Verses lives under fear of a fatwa on his head. The cartoonist who drew the Mohammad Bomb head has had multiple attempts on his life.

You can't argue the merits of your ideas when you are dead.

Thanks for the defense, particularly given your apparent aversion to agreeing with me or with engaging with any of my arguments ... :-) But good points - as long as Islam insists on remaining stuck in the 6th century so long must the West be ready to challenge it at every pass, to draw the proverbial line in the sand. Though I posted this recently, it seems to me that that is precisely what Anne Marie Waters was doing with her tweet as well:

#52502

[quote="Steersman"]Thanks for the defense, particularly given your apparent aversion to agreeing with me or with engaging with any of my arguments ... :-)
I am not necessarily averse to agreeing with you or engaging with your arguments. I just tend to not find your lines of discussion all that interesting, so I barley skim over most of it. I guess that might be a form of aversion, but it is not personally or ideologically based.

#52503

Ape+lust wrote: And while we're looking at minor travesties...

Sye Ten Atheist produces animated satire with voice acting and original music at least 3 times a month. For this, he's compensated about half what Ophelia gets for copypasta.

http://imgur.com/FxaHe6k.jpg

Once a month Rebecca issues mopey apologies for late or missing videos. When she does make them, she's given NEARLY A GRAND for EACH.

http://imgur.com/Q6NqMfu.jpg

Yep that's all kind of fucked up isn't it, Ape? The latest PopSci gig she had summed it up really, half-assed to the the end. How is Quiz-o-tron doing lately anyway?

Let me add to the chorus of congrats to Phil and Ali too. Salut!

#52504

Brive1987 wrote:OMG. A white Aussie has been killed by black men in Georgia.

Brace yourself for the riots.

http://www.news.com.au/national/austral ... afe04a86db

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... 60-h320-nc

The victim, "Mr Reid developed a great love of Aboriginal art after living in Alice Springs for 25 years.

His Savannah gallery specialised in contemporary central and western desert art and jewellery created using paintings by the Warlukurlangu artists of the Northern Territory."

Just your typical expendable white male, who, to make things worse, engaged in cultural appropriation. A tool of The Patriarchy. A white supremacist. No SJW will shed a tear over this guy. The thugs were punching up.

(And congrats to Phil!)

#52505

Kirbmarc wrote: Sadik Khan, the ineffable muslim mayor of London, also violated the rules of the "open marketplace of ideas" (which include a separation of religious issues from politics) when he argued that he was superior to a political rival because he was a "real muslim" unlike his rival who was a "fake" one (because he was Ahmadi). If the Labour party cared about the values it claims to uphold (like "progressive ideas") they should have expelled Khan after he pulled that stunt.

Instead Khan is not only a very influential figure in the Labour Party, but he's enacting some authoritarian actions as a mayor of London, like removing some adverts for "body shaming" or trying to curb drinking and pubs on "public safety" grounds. "Curiously enough" those authoritarian actions are supported by sharia councils, since they curb the exposure of "indecent images of women" and of drinking.

This, coupled with his previous coddling of Salafis for a political advantage, is at least worrying evidence that Khan may enact laws which are beneficial to closing off the marketplace of ideas and to giving unfair advantages to muslim traditionalist thought leaders. In general in the UK the Labour party seems eager to offer undue privileges (gender segregated party meetings, prayers at party meetings, the authoritarian muzzle of political correctness and "codes of conduct", even tentative support for blasphemy laws)to religious reactionaries as long as they're muslim.

It will be interesting to see how Khan fares now after this weekend, Jeremy Corbyn is set to be re-elected leader of Labour and Khan publicly supported his rival, Owen Smith. I'd love to see him taken down a peg or two, for all the reasons already given. He's a slippery fucker though.

#52506

sp0tlight wrote:Heeeey, Service Dog! Now you can't be a 'ho!

http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandcult ... wering-poc

People of Color will no longer be excluded from making shitty art.

For too long, black culture was first-rate, as seen on the stage of the Apollo, and in street fashion, & sublime oratory of struggle & uplift. But now #arthoe brainmelt narcissist mediocrity will change all that. Lemme see you booty hole! Ho-oooooooh! Oh!

#52507

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:A bit tired and going to be bed, but just to let you all know: it's a done deal, I'm married.

You've taken your first step into a larger world.

Not having been married, I'm not really sure that's true, but I heard someone say that once.

#52508

Brive1987 wrote:OMG. A white Aussie has been killed by black men in Georgia.

Brace yourself for the riots.

http://www.news.com.au/national/austral ... afe04a86db

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... 60-h320-nc

Sorry to hear it. Seems like he was an interesting and nice guy.

#52509

Dr. Carrier PhD is getting his ass handed to him by Tim Hendrix, someone who actually understands Bayesian statistics, and is reduced to shouting "I'm right and you're wrong, because reasons."

Tim Hendrix wrote:Now that I think I have answered your post, perhaps you can answer the question that I have put forward in various forms about 6 times: Do you think that we have to compute the prior p(h|b) using a frequency-based approximation? That is, that this prior has to be computed by defining an appropriate set of historical characters and computing:

p(h|b) = (#Members of set who are historical + 1) / (#Members of the set + 2)

(quite obviously I think this is false).

Dr. Richard Carrier PhD wrote:So far as we know, picking any RR hero randomly out of a hat gets us a historical person no more than 1 in 3 times; and Jesus is in that hat. Everything else is not knowledge but speculation. As I’ve explained. Again. And again. And again. And again. Until you give me evidence and not speculation that the rate will be different for Jesus, you do not know that it is. Whereas we do know that for all RR heroes, it is what we observe it to be. If you have evidence it’s different, present it. Otherwise, wind up my ass is all you have here.

Perhaps the funniest bit is where Carrier accuses Hendrix of writing "a wall of words". This from Dr. Wall-o-words himself. :lol:

All he has is bluff and bluster. A scholar he isn't.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160924100 ... ives/10989

#52510

Trigglypuff 2.0: Social Justice Warriors Triggered at KU

#52511

Brive1987 wrote:OMG. A white Aussie has been killed by black men in Georgia.

Brace yourself for the riots.

http://www.news.com.au/national/austral ... afe04a86db

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... 60-h320-nc

The Beatles look a lot more Facsist these days.

#52512

A bit late but I'd like to add my congratulations on the newly signed Franco-Polish Accord.*

*No Hondas were harmed in the making of this Accord.

#52513

In other news:

Popular YouTube Vlogger (last estimate I saw was his net worth is US$2,000,000) Mo who lives in Dubai and his mother threw a surprise birthday party for his sister. Currently at 716,385 views.

The number of views is not uncommon for any of videos he put up. His videos will get anywhere from 500,000 to 12,000,000 views. I subscribed myself not that long ago because Mo documents his current lifestyle, and ... well I am not going to get into what he reveals except that I am more accustomed to people being much more discrete than this.

#52514

Saw the latest Hillary ad this morning, a string of young girls lookin in the mirror as Trump is spouting his opinion on Rosie.( and others)

The girls of course are quite doe eyed, looking confused and unsure.

The tag" Is this the man you want as president for our daughters?"

Noticed that all of the ads I have seen for Hillary all revolve around emotion. Trump is a big meanie!

Not a hint of substance, but again who should expect substance from a Clinton.

Looking forward to the debate Monday, watching two incredibly dislikable people dig at each other with rusty hooks should be entertaining at the least.

#52515

In honour of an (almost) SJW free WiS4 and the return of the Walking Dead next month. Let me rehash my pic

http://i.imgur.com/do944vE.jpg

#52516

I'm not American, so I've been watching the election circus with popcorn in hand. I keep seeing these tinfoil-hat theories about how Obama is covering for Hillary behind the scenes, fucking with investigations, things like... hello, what's this?

Obama used a pseudonym in emails with Clinton, FBI documents reveal

President Barack Obama used a pseudonym in email communications with Hillary Clinton and others, according to FBI records made public Friday.

The disclosure came as the FBI released its second batch of documents from its investigation into Clinton’s private email server during her tenure as secretary of state.

The 189 pages the bureau released includes interviews with some of Clinton’s closest aides, such as Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills; senior State Department officials; and even Marcel Lazar, better known as the Romanian hacker “Guccifer.”

In an April 5, 2016 interview with the FBI, Abedin was shown an email exchange between Clinton and Obama, but the longtime Clinton aide did not recognize the name of the sender.

"Once informed that the sender's name is believed to be pseudonym used by the president, Abedin exclaimed: 'How is this not classified?'" the report says. "Abedin then expressed her amazement at the president's use of a pseudonym and asked if she could have a copy of the email."

The State Department has refused to make public that and other emails Clinton exchanged with Obama. Lawyers have cited the "presidential communications privilege," a variation of executive privilege, in order to withhold the messages under the Freedom of Information Act.

The report doesn't provide more details on the contents of that particular email exchange, but says it took place on June 28, 2012, and had the subject line: "Re: Congratulations." It may refer to the Supreme Court's ruling that day upholding a key portion of the Obamacare law.

B-but Obama told everyone that he only found out about Hillary's private server when it hit the news! I wonder if Obama was the "VERY VIP" client that Hillary's IT guy was trying to scrub from the logs?

#52517

Brive1987 wrote:In honour of an (almost) SJW free WiS4 and the return of the Walking Dead next month.

Looks like a good time. I don't believe any of these folks are ragebloggers.

#52518

Has the Independent's shocking report on the sexual exploitation of refugees been posted here yet?

Volunteers in the Calais Jungle have been accused of sexually exploiting refugees and even child migrants.

The Independent has discovered a serious row has broken out among some unpaid charity workers at the camp in northern France, with some believing forging sexual relationships with adult refugees is natural in such circumstances, while others say it breaches all usual codes of conduct.

One man who raised the alarm was later subjected to a barrage of online abuse.

Fucking white males! Exploiting vulnerable women and children who’ve found themselves in a desperate situation.

Oh, wait, actually…

The man added that the majority of cases in question involved female volunteers and male refugees – which he claimed risked the objectification of women volunteering in the camp.

He wrote: “Female volunteers having sex enforces the view (that many have) that volunteers are here for sex. This impression objectifies women in the camp and increases the risks."

His comments prompted accusations of sexism and misogyny from female members of the group. One commented on the post: “I find this attitude incredibly patronising and paternalistic with added sexism and racism.”

I just can't decide what the biggest problem is here: the objectification of women or that dude's mansplaining...

Maya Konforti, who volunteers for Auberge des Migrants, told The Independent about another case in which a British female volunteer had built up a “bad reputation” in the camp by sleeping with multiple refugees.

Ms Konforti said: “I know one British woman who had a very bad reputation in the Jungle. If she had been volunteering with Auberge she would be thrown out, but she did it on her own, she was here independently.

“She found the right refugee and now she’s with him. That’s what I hear. She’s back in the UK and lives with a refugee.”

It reminds me of the story a while back about German families inviting refugees to live with them. I certainly hope none of those German women took advantage of any poor oppressed men they took in…

http://d2nj4n4ep9vg2s.cloudfront.net/wp ... im_IP.jpeg

#52519

Meanwhile back in Albion Land , Corbyn re elected as Labour Party leader with over 60% of vote and slightly increased majority.

http://i.imgur.com/pjsfpfL.jpg

#52520

deLurch wrote:
d4m10n wrote:One might well be forgiven for concluding that you and Mr. Kafir truly believe secular democracy would fucking lose to sharia law in a free marketplace of ideas.
<<sigh>> In Steersman's defense, or more specifically on who would win in a free market place of ideas between sharia law and secular democracy, radical islamists are not exactly competing with just ideas.

Take for example how many main stream media news companies and movie producers no longer will show images of Mohammad. The willingness to murder people who offend them kind of takes it out of an even fight on the exchange of ideas level. The staff of Charlie Hebdo was slaughtered. The author of Islamic Verses lives under fear of a fatwa on his head. The cartoonist who drew the Mohammad Bomb head has had multiple attempts on his life.

Meet bad ideas with good ideas.

Meet violence with violence.

On rare occasions, we can even walk and chew gum at the same time.

#52521

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:A bit tired and going to be bed, but just to let you all know: it's a done deal, I'm married.

Congrats. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Except get married of course...and maybe have some kids if you want them...or buy a house if you're interested.

Actually, you're probably fine doing lots of things I wouldn't do.

#52522

Kirbmarc wrote:All in all there are some issues with islam which can't be solved just by "letting the marketplace of ideas freely do its job" because the marketplace of ideas isn't actually free when it comes to discussing islam.

We are discussing a choice between reforming the marketplace to make it more free (to the discomfiture of many people of various faiths) or hanging up "Muslims need not apply" signs at the perimiter gates and thereby avoiding discussion about Islam.

#52523

* ...discussion about Islam with believers therein.

#52524

Brive1987 wrote:I like Gerry's mum.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... BTbaog57Xb

Does it say "Mother's Day humper" or "Mother Day's hampster"?

#52525

Kirbmarc wrote:I think that the Regressive Left/SJWs will probably still exist in the future, but their political and social power is going to amount to nothing, or to close to nothing, in many European countries (and maybe even in the US) in a few years. We've already experienced the peak of the SJWs, it's all downhill for them from here. The bad news is that in many cases they'll take down the left and even some parts of the center with them. I expect the political rise of many right-wing, anti-immigration parties.

I wonder if anyone of the SJW faction has ever had that bright moment where they realised that trying to deny any wrongdoing on behalf of minorities like blacks and immigrants actually plays into the hands of the right wing.

#52526

feathers wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:I think that the Regressive Left/SJWs will probably still exist in the future, but their political and social power is going to amount to nothing, or to close to nothing, in many European countries (and maybe even in the US) in a few years. We've already experienced the peak of the SJWs, it's all downhill for them from here. The bad news is that in many cases they'll take down the left and even some parts of the center with them. I expect the political rise of many right-wing, anti-immigration parties.
I wonder if anyone of the SJW faction has ever had that bright moment where they realised that trying to deny any wrongdoing on behalf of minorities like blacks and immigrants actually plays into the hands of the right wing.

I don't the that bothers them.

I think they need a large right-wing to convince themselves they are necessary.

The SJWs and the alt-right feed each other.

#52527

KenD wrote:Has the Independent's shocking report on the sexual exploitation of refugees been posted here yet?

Volunteers in the Calais Jungle have been accused of sexually exploiting refugees and even child migrants.

The Independent has discovered a serious row has broken out among some unpaid charity workers at the camp in northern France, with some believing forging sexual relationships with adult refugees is natural in such circumstances, while others say it breaches all usual codes of conduct.

One man who raised the alarm was later subjected to a barrage of online abuse.
Fucking white males! Exploiting vulnerable women and children who’ve found themselves in a desperate situation.

Oh, wait, actually…

The man added that the majority of cases in question involved female volunteers and male refugees – which he claimed risked the objectification of women volunteering in the camp.

He wrote: “Female volunteers having sex enforces the view (that many have) that volunteers are here for sex. This impression objectifies women in the camp and increases the risks."

His comments prompted accusations of sexism and misogyny from female members of the group. One commented on the post: “I find this attitude incredibly patronising and paternalistic with added sexism and racism.”
I just can't decide what the biggest problem is here: the objectification of women or that dude's mansplaining...

Maya Konforti, who volunteers for Auberge des Migrants, told The Independent about another case in which a British female volunteer had built up a “bad reputation” in the camp by sleeping with multiple refugees.

Ms Konforti said: “I know one British woman who had a very bad reputation in the Jungle. If she had been volunteering with Auberge she would be thrown out, but she did it on her own, she was here independently.

“She found the right refugee and now she’s with him. That’s what I hear. She’s back in the UK and lives with a refugee.”
It reminds me of the story a while back about German families inviting refugees to live with them. I certainly hope none of those German women took advantage of any poor oppressed men they took in…

http://d2nj4n4ep9vg2s.cloudfront.net/wp ... im_IP.jpeg

When I was in Peace Corps training. Half of the female contingent would be getting it on with host country language instructors and members of their homestay families, then half of them would have the gall to bitch about how all of the Africans thought American girls were sluts. Part of the problem was that many of the volunteers were not all that attractive and were unused to the attention and flirting that the local men would throw at them. Some of those same volunteers ended up married to host country nationals before their tour ended or shortly thereafter.

#52528

Outside of piss takers and perhaps a few re labeled lunatics, this whole Alt-right thing sounds like a bug-a-boo manufactured by the progressives.

From reading the wiki, it's as if the old Klan was suddenly and spontaneously resurrected to 1920's strength and is about to take the White House.

#52529

Jan Steen wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:OMG. A white Aussie has been killed by black men in Georgia.

Brace yourself for the riots.

http://www.news.com.au/national/austral ... afe04a86db

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy ... 60-h320-nc
The victim, "Mr Reid developed a great love of Aboriginal art after living in Alice Springs for 25 years.

His Savannah gallery specialised in contemporary central and western desert art and jewellery created using paintings by the Warlukurlangu artists of the Northern Territory."

Just your typical expendable white male, who, to make things worse, engaged in cultural appropriation. A tool of The Patriarchy. A white supremacist. No SJW will shed a tear over this guy. The thugs were punching up.

(And congrats to Phil!)

Reverse homicide doesn't exist!

#52530

InfraRedBucket wrote:Meanwhile back in Albion Land , Corbyn re elected as Labour Party leader with over 60% of vote and slightly increased majority.

Four more years of fucking laughter, mirth, and popcorn-munching, then! Bring it on! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

#52531

Tigzy wrote: How long ago were you purged? Don't forget that Labour membership has skyrocketed recently - and that not so long ago, the Greens, amongst others, were making noises about a 'progressive alliance' of left wing parties in the wake of Brexit. Supporting the Greens does not necessarily preclude also supporting Corbyn's Labour, given that both lean heavility towards what you might call typical left-wing 'progressivism' - and Labour, at present, has at least a remote chance of winning power, as opposed to the Greens, who have none. Cross progessive support might well have swelled the ranks of Corbyn's support amongst the SJW. After all, note how much Corbyn goes on about these 'new young people' who are joining his party - and SJWism (or at least nods to it) certainly is a significant influence on politically motivated young lefties these days. That's how it seems to me, at any rate.

So yeah, I do suspect that the SJW core within Corbyn's support is significant - though I must clarify that by significant, I don't mean that it has a hegemeony. There are still plenty of old school trots & Militant Tendency types amongst Corbyn's fanbase, too - who'll want to watch their backs for accusations of misogyny and racism*, if my suspicions are correct.

*Albeit the kind of racism which doesn't involve anti-semitism, as that's just criticism of Israel. Of course.

I was purged in the recent "try to stop corbyn" spasm. I agree with some of your points and will be looking out for any incoming SJW type accusation politics, but my honest feeling is that the majority of people who joined (certainly from my social groups anyway) are just regular folks who can't afford to buy a house and hate the Tories.
It's all kind of academic now anyway because they booted me, and to be frank if they start going down proper anti-free speech (any more than all parties already do) then I won't be voting for them again. We are in dire need of something new politics-wise.

#52532

Tuvoki wrote:

Reverse homicide doesn't exist!

It's impossiblr for a POC to kill a white person because of the power differential. :ugeek:

#52533

free thoughtpolice wrote:Tuvoki wrote:
Reverse homicide doesn't exist!
It's impossiblr for a POC to kill a white person because of the power differential. :ugeek:

jzScs.jpg: (66.3 KiB) Downloaded 227 times

#52534

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Tuvoki wrote:
Reverse homicide doesn't exist!
It's impossiblr for a POC to kill a white person because of the power differential. :ugeek:

jzScs.jpg

Dare I ask where you found that puddle of drivel?

The SJW types are so good at jumping through rhetorical hoops and springing into logical contortions they should be in the circus.

#52535

Spike13 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:snip

It's impossiblr for a POC to kill a white person because of the power differential. :ugeek:

jzScs.jpg

Dare I ask where you found that puddle of drivel?

The SJW types are so good at jumping through rhetorical hoops and springing into logical contortions they should be in the circus.

It was Tumblr, but where I can't recall. I have a SJW brother-in-law, so I keep some material for purposes of torment and amusement.

#52536

d4m10n wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:All in all there are some issues with islam which can't be solved just by "letting the marketplace of ideas freely do its job" because the marketplace of ideas isn't actually free when it comes to discussing islam.
We are discussing a choice between reforming the marketplace to make it more free (to the discomfiture of many people of various faiths) or hanging up "Muslims need not apply" signs at the perimiter gates and thereby avoiding discussion about Islam.

What Dhimmion actually said:

One might well be forgiven for concluding that you and Mr. Kafir truly believe secular democracy would fucking lose to sharia law in a free marketplace of ideas.

Everyone else has pointed out that Islam generally speaking doesn't allow for free discussion. The matter was settled 1400 years ago according to most muslims. There wouldn't be a discussion. Now you are saying that you were arguing that(I?) said borders should be closed and there shouldn't be any discussion at all. Strawmanning while simultaneously moving the goal posts.

#52537

Shatterface wrote:
...

The SJWs and the alt-right feed each other.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/56 ... c376a0.jpg

#52538

The astronomy community continues to show itself as a haven for sexist scumbags pretending to be feminist allies. (could Phil Plait be next?)

Black hole discovered inside the astronomy community
It’s name is Scott Lewis. He has “borrowed” over $30,000 from various people by telling tales of financial misery, getting pitying contributions, and then turning on his donors.

http://archive.is/uJNYv

Misandrist pretend pirate, and cis male heterophobe Nate Hevens writes:

Nathan
23 September 2016 at 12:42 pm
Oh my fucking god. I’ve watched the Hubble Space Telescope Hangouts, and am subscribed to the podcast. I followed him on Twitter. I thought he was funny and intelligent. When you’re a fan of Hubble, you tend to know his name.
But of course this is who he really was. Of course. Because… fucking men.
Nathan
23 September 2016 at 12:51 pm
Oh… now admittedly this I didn’t know, but I’m reading it now in the piece…
Of course he was a fucking feminist. Of course he was.
I was in a conversation about trust a while back, and I mentioned that I will never ask, demand, or expect anyone to trust me… and this right here is why. Cishet white d00ds like me will pretend to fight for social justice while being horrid shitheads “behind closed doors”.
*sigh*

#52539

Skankhunt 42: Great American Satan wants you to try to troll him so he can ban you. Scumbag.
http://archive.is/RJxB6

#52540

DrokkIt wrote:I was purged in the recent "try to stop corbyn" spasm. I agree with some of your points and will be looking out for any incoming SJW type accusation politics, but my honest feeling is that the majority of people who joined (certainly from my social groups anyway) are just regular folks who can't afford to buy a house and hate the Tories.
It's all kind of academic now anyway because they booted me, and to be frank if they start going down proper anti-free speech (any more than all parties already do) then I won't be voting for them again. We are in dire need of something new politics-wise.

It is usually the case that the well-meaning sensible types are overlooked by the shouty Corbynistas.

I'd be interested in what Corbyn's solution for the housing problem would be. One problem is supply and demand, and despite what SJWs and the politically correct say, immigration is one of the problems. How big a problem is up for debate, but it is a big factor. There is no way Corbyn would try and reduce immigration, although his financial policies might wreck the economy enough so that it deters many of the economic migrants. The other big solution would be to "build more houses". That is one of those soundbites that politicians use a lot, but you always wonder how they would pay for it, and how they would get round nimbyism and planning laws.

It is a bit grim if you don't own property in the UK, as rents are shooting up, and I don't think Labour or the Tories have a fucking clue what to do about it.

#52541

I watched Ghostbusters Answer the Call and wrote about it and you assholes are not even going to comment about it?

I hate you all.

#52542

CommanderTuvok wrote:
It is usually the case that the well-meaning sensible types are overlooked by the shouty Corbynistas.

I'd be interested in what Corbyn's solution for the housing problem would be. One problem is supply and demand, and despite what SJWs and the politically correct say, immigration is one of the problems. How big a problem is up for debate, but it is a big factor. There is no way Corbyn would try and reduce immigration, although his financial policies might wreck the economy enough so that it deters many of the economic migrants. The other big solution would be to "build more houses". That is one of those soundbites that politicians use a lot, but you always wonder how they would pay for it, and how they would get round nimbyism and planning laws.

It is a bit grim if you don't own property in the UK, as rents are shooting up, and I don't think Labour or the Tories have a fucking clue what to do about it.

Couldn't be more in agreement. I've nothing against immigrants (my grandmother was one) but there is severe 'infrastructural shortfall' by which me mean housing shortage, nhs strain and school placement strain. In my view the 'shouty corbynistas' tend to be from a bit of a better-off background than me and simply don't encounter the problem mass migration creates.
I've been lectured at by my posher mates many times, but I realise to them immigration simply means exciting new ethnic restaurants opening up and not a brutal rent hike and having one's local community culture utterly destroyed.

I don't own any property and it's pretty unlikely I ever will at this point, and that very much the norm for most of the people I know. The rental prices in my region have astronomically rocketed over the last 20 years.

#52543

free thoughtpolice wrote:The astronomy community continues to show itself as a haven for sexist scumbags pretending to be feminist allies. (could Phil Plait be next?)
Black hole discovered inside the astronomy community
It’s name is Scott Lewis. He has “borrowed” over $30,000 from various people by telling tales of financial misery, getting pitying contributions, and then turning on his donors.
http://archive.is/uJNYv

Misandrist pretend pirate, and cis male heterophobe Nate Hevens writes:
Nathan
23 September 2016 at 12:42 pm
Oh my fucking god. I’ve watched the Hubble Space Telescope Hangouts, and am subscribed to the podcast. I followed him on Twitter. I thought he was funny and intelligent. When you’re a fan of Hubble, you tend to know his name.
But of course this is who he really was. Of course. Because… fucking men.
Nathan
23 September 2016 at 12:51 pm
Oh… now admittedly this I didn’t know, but I’m reading it now in the piece…
Of course he was a fucking feminist. Of course he was.
I was in a conversation about trust a while back, and I mentioned that I will never ask, demand, or expect anyone to trust me… and this right here is why. Cishet white d00ds like me will pretend to fight for social justice while being horrid shitheads “behind closed doors”.
*sigh*

Wow. FTB took a stance against ebegging on the basis of dubious requests?

#52544

comhcinc wrote:I watched Ghostbusters Answer the Call and wrote about it and you assholes are not even going to comment about it?

I hate you all.

#52545

From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

#52546

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Holy shit:

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ ... 906/196941

Plaintiff: Richard Carrier
Defendant: FreethoughtBlogs Network, Paul Z Myers, Orbit, Stephanie Zvan, Skepticon, Inc., Lauren Lane and Amy Frank-Skiba
Case Number: 2:2016cv00906
Filed: September 20, 2016
Court: Ohio Southern District Court
Office: Columbus Office
County: FRANKLIN
Referring Judge: Elizabeth Preston Deavers
Presiding Judge: Michael H. Watson
Nature of Suit: Assault, Libel, and Slander
Cause of Action: 28:1332
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

#52547

It's interesting there's nothing in there about SSA, seeing as how they are the ones who punished him officially and how he came to be around Amy.

#52548

Really? wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Holy shit:

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ ... 906/196941

Plaintiff: Richard Carrier
Defendant: FreethoughtBlogs Network, Paul Z Myers, Orbit, Stephanie Zvan, Skepticon, Inc., Lauren Lane and Amy Frank-Skiba
Case Number: 2:2016cv00906
Filed: September 20, 2016
Court: Ohio Southern District Court
Office: Columbus Office
County: FRANKLIN
Referring Judge: Elizabeth Preston Deavers
Presiding Judge: Michael H. Watson
Nature of Suit: Assault, Libel, and Slander
Cause of Action: 28:1332
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

Assault?

I need to add popcorn to the grocery list.

#52549

comhcinc wrote:I watched Ghostbusters Answer the Call and wrote about it and you assholes are not even going to comment about it?

I hate you all.

I had no plans to see the movie. After reading your review I now have active plans in place to avoid seeing it.

#52550

Twitter roundup.

Zvan is at WiS and it looks like WiS is more of the same bullshit. No mention of Carrier's briefs.

Lauren Lane's tweets are now protected. They were not protected in the past.

https://twitter.com/LaurenPants\

No mention of suit on PZ's twitter in the hour since he posted the news bulletin.

No one seems to have tweeted him about it either.

I don't believe Amy has a Twitter.

The Orbit's account hasn't tweeted since September 7th.

I still can't find any news about the SSA investigation. No updates since way back.

#52551

comhcinc wrote:I watched Ghostbusters Answer the Call and wrote about it and you assholes are not even going to comment about it?

I hate you all.

Your review included spelling mistakes (fell instead of fail - if memory serves).

PS. I'm sorry that you hate all of me - as there are parts of you that I rather like.

PPS. I'm not going to be watching the movie - and much of the brouhaha surrounding it seems like trivial bullshit - so no response is perfectly valid.

#52552

Mr. X, Indeed wrote:
Really? wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Holy shit:

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ ... 906/196941

Plaintiff: Richard Carrier
Defendant: FreethoughtBlogs Network, Paul Z Myers, Orbit, Stephanie Zvan, Skepticon, Inc., Lauren Lane and Amy Frank-Skiba
Case Number: 2:2016cv00906
Filed: September 20, 2016
Court: Ohio Southern District Court
Office: Columbus Office
County: FRANKLIN
Referring Judge: Elizabeth Preston Deavers
Presiding Judge: Michael H. Watson
Nature of Suit: Assault, Libel, and Slander
Cause of Action: 28:1332
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Assault?

I need to add popcorn to the grocery list.

OK. Assault, Libel, and Slander is just a catch-all category for lawsuits. Carrier isn't accusing anyone of assault. My mistake.

#52553

MarcusAu wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I watched Ghostbusters Answer the Call and wrote about it and you assholes are not even going to comment about it?

I hate you all.
Your review included spelling mistakes (fell instead of fail - if memory serves).

PS. I'm sorry that you hate all of me - as there are parts of you that I rather like.

PPS. I'm not going to be watching the movie - and much of the brouhaha surrounding it seems like trivial bullshit - so no response is perfectly valid.

Now I am rather sad.

Fell. I knew it was wrong as I typed it and realized the mistake as soon as I hit submit.

And yeah my hope was it was going to a okay film and thus the stink over it would just be kinda silly. Turns out it was fucking awful.

#52554

Some of the tasty early reaction on PZ's thread:

Kreator
24 September 2016 at 5:10 pm
He’s demanding $1,050,000 in compensation and another $1,050,000 in punitive damages.
Well, serves you right. I reckon that the nothing that you and your pals did to him must have been quite devastating to his bottom line.

Paul Cowan
24 September 2016 at 5:26 pm
He’s suing? Wow, any plans to setup some kind of GoFundMe or for legal costs? It’s a model that worked well for Steven Novella I understand.
I’ll contribute!

Regarding the prospect of crowdfunding a defense:

PZ Myers
24 September 2016 at 5:31 pm
Yeah, we’ll probably have to set up something. It involves several specific individuals, the FtB network (which, according to the suit, I totally control), the Orbit network, and Skepticon, Inc, though, so we’re probably going to have to coordinate something.
It’s just so ludicrous, though. He feels justified demanding a million dollars in lost compensation from FtB? I had no idea we paid so well!

EigenSprocketUK
24 September 2016 at 5:32 pm
Dr. Evil: “One million dollars!”
Dr Evil’s lawyer: “Don’t forget my fee?”
Dr. Evil: “One million and fifty thousand dollars!”

raven
24 September 2016 at 5:41 pm
He’s demanding $1,050,000 in compensation and another $1,050,000 in punitive damages.
No big deal.
1. I’ve been threatened with lawsuits so many times, I’ve lost count. All that happened was two guys ended up in federal court, charged with felonies.
2. I’ll echo some of the above.
Set up some sort of defense fund. I’ve contributed to many. We’ve never lost one yet.
I’m in for a few bucks. And a few more if it is needed.
I really, really don’t like bullies!!!
PS The truth is an absolute defense.
PPS Carrier is an idiot. Most of us had forgotten all about him and his problems. He just reminded us again. Really, he should sue himself for being an idiot.
Hmmm, I just called him an idiot. Twice. Maybe he will sue me. I can hope anyway.

Nerd tries to use his brain:

Nerd of Redhead, Dances OM Trolls
24 September 2016 at 6:03 pm
Ah, the usual. He is free to express himself, anytime, anyplace, and in any situation, including criticizing you. You aren’t free to criticize him at all. Somebody who doesn’t truly understand free speech due to ego problems, like Trump.

http://archive.is/uUL4L

#52555

Really? wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Holy shit:

https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ ... 906/196941

Plaintiff: Richard Carrier
Defendant: FreethoughtBlogs Network, Paul Z Myers, Orbit, Stephanie Zvan, Skepticon, Inc., Lauren Lane and Amy Frank-Skiba
Case Number: 2:2016cv00906
Filed: September 20, 2016
Court: Ohio Southern District Court
Office: Columbus Office
County: FRANKLIN
Referring Judge: Elizabeth Preston Deavers
Presiding Judge: Michael H. Watson
Nature of Suit: Assault, Libel, and Slander
Cause of Action: 28:1332
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

And to think that he was their intellectual artillery. :lol:

I see that Carrier is represented by a real lawyer, that's too bad, I was kind of expecting Carrier to be his own lawyer.

"Your Honor, a Bayesian analysis of the defendants' words clearly shows that they committed libel and slander with a probability of 99.97877%, beyond any reasonable doubt. And I know that for certain, because my arguments end any rational debate". :lol:

#52556

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Shit like that needs to be linked, dude! https://web.archive.org/web/20160924215 ... -sentence/

I understand that when it comes to all this lawyering shite, it's standard practice to claim for more than what you might expect. And though we all know that Dicky hath quite the opinion of himself - that much? Seriously? :lol:

#52557

Weren't there others that said nasty things about Carrier's horndoggery? Like Squirrely Amy, Heina Dadhaboy, Dr. Ashley Fucking Miller, Elyse?

#52558

free thoughtpolice wrote:Weren't there others that said nasty things about Carrier's horndoggery? Like Squirrely Amy, Heina Dadhaboy, Dr. Ashley Fucking Miller, Elyse?

They're likely included in the Freethoughtblog network, the Orbit or Skepticon.

#52559

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:From Meyers:

http://i.imgur.com/yiUQXZ1.png

Wot!

Popcorn ordered. I want Perry Mason-style shocks and revelations in the court room! I want gasps from the jury as sordid secrets are spilled! I want front-page newspapers to be featuring Myers, Carrier and company amid lurid allegations of octopus sex!

OK, OK, it will likely fizzle out into a damp squib.....but I can dream!

#52560

Really? wrote:Holy shit

I guess Dick's back on menu, boys!

Lovely, lovely person, Provider of Drama, Semen Enthusiasts.

:cdc: