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paddybrown wrote:In other news, I dropped a plectrum mid-song during rehearsals with the band this afternoon, and was quite relieved to be able to finish the song with my fingers without anyone noticing. If it happens for real on the night, I should be able to manage.
I always kept one or two stuck in the strings on the headstock. There's also little pouches that attach to your guitar strap. But good job keeping it going sans pick ( or spectrum if you must.)

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Skep tickle wrote:Skepticon has posted financials for FY ending 6/30/2016: https://skepticon.org/financials/

Red ink the past 2 years...
That's the kind of information that initiates tumescence in The Commander.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumescence

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Shatterface wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Jaime Jupiter, Magda Mars, Sarah Saturn, now Lauren Lane... do all of his harem have twinned initials? :think:
They sound suspiciously like girl students from Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. If they ever do a film of Dickie's life, I expect a cameo by Stan Lee.
I expect Carrier's film would be more like a porn movie blooper reel.

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screwtape wrote:But the fact is that every sentence he writes, every way in which he tries so hard to understand stuff that others have hard-wired, even to the extent of resorting to Bayes Theorem to understand contentious matters of opinion, all scream 'autism' to those who know their subject matter.
Hermann Detering wrote:The natural philosophers of the Early Roman Empire, the slide rule, and Bayes’ theorem may be of great interest to Carrier, but they have no relevance to issues under discussion here.
Dr. Richard Carrier, PhD wrote:Eighty-two, Eighty two, Eighty-two.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:I just finished watching & thoroughly enjoying THE FALL. Mini-series about a serial killer in Belfast.
Would have been even better if the killer turned out to be Mark E Smith! :D

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I think Carrier might actually use Cerebro to look for poon.

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Karmakin wrote:
paddybrown wrote:Just read Carrier's blogpost. I'm have no qualification to make this diagnosis, but he's autistic as fuck. The way he tries to rationally analyse every social interaction and learn from each new input seems to be the very definition of autism as it's been explained to me. He has no social instincts, and can only operate in a social context by observing how people around him operate and trying to imitate them. He's in the mess he's in because the people around him, whose standards of behaviour he's trying to conform to, are SJWs, for whom the appropriateness of any act depends only on whether it's done by a member of the ingroup or the outgroup: it's ok when we do it. Good luck to anyone without social instincts trying to divine any kind of guiding principle from them.
I think I agree. Maybe not autistic, but someone with a low native social intelligence. I'm actually not saying that as an attack. I'd raise my hand as someone who shares that. I'm everything you say there, well, except for the social "teachings" I have are generally entirely different.

Kinda feel bad for him really. I could see myself in the same boat, to be honest, given exposure to a different culture.
Nah, he is just an asshole who thinks he is smarter than everyone else.

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Anybody else keeping up with the Loopy Kooky Kali Bookey case? The 14yo self-proclaimed psychopath, who to me, seems like she has been infleunced by SJWs and Skepchicks.

Anyway, this caught my eye: Near the end of the attack, Bookey asked the girl if she wanted to ‘die right now’ or ‘bleed out’. The victim chose bleed out and Bookey stopped cutting her."

:shock:

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Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".

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Around here if you asked a room full of guitar players if anybody had a "plectum" all you would get would be blank stares.

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comhcinc wrote:Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".
I'm going to guess lack of tools (I read a bit more as that confused me too and they have to use a machine to find water, then other things to dig) and likely basic lack of agricultural knowledge as well.

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I would like to remind everyone, that this is actually the details of Phase One of his legal action
Richard Carrier wrote:Phase one of my legal action on that will be completed tomorrow. And I will publish those details by the end of this week.
http://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10912

Well he hasn't stated that he has fired off any legal letters. Odds are if he had a lawyer, he would have advised Richard against making this post. And does this post show signs of Richard having talked with a lawyer beyond his free one hour consultation? It kind of looks like he has been looking up the laws for defamation, and has been trying to interpret it all himself, and sound scary.

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Shatterface wrote:
Easy J wrote:That post hit a little close to home, so I found an online autism test & gave it a go.

https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spe ... /score.php

"Your score was 39 out of a possible 50. Scores in the 33-50 range indicate significant autistic traits (autism)."

Thinking of following up on this. It sure would explain a lot & might make a handy weapon when neurotypicals forget their privilege. Anyone know of any cheap but respectable ways to test for this?
I'm in the UK and even getting a referral for assessment as an adult is bloody difficult. Basically, unless the condition is impacting on your health you won't get a referral. It was only when my social interaction problems lead to depression that I got a referral and even that took months.

The actual assessment took 18 weeks. That involves tests to rule out other conditions, IQ tests, assessment by a speech therapist, autism specialists, and a complete medical and social history. They may even interview friends and family. There's also this test called an 'awkward moments' test about hypothetical social interactions which is very like the Voight-Kampf test in Blade Runner.

I'd pretty much figured out I was on the spectrum years earlier but since there's no 'treatment' there was did-all reason to be tested. It was only when I was transferred from a back-of-house data input job to a client-facing role that resulted in a number of predictably violent incidents and some time off work that I got an assessment and a transfer back to a more suitable job. As a general rule, if your client-base consists largely of drug-addicts and ex-offenders, don't expect someone with the social skills of a bonobo to deal with them.
That sounds rather uninviting. I'm mostly just excited to unwrap a shiny new disorder & see how much of my quirks are me & how much are autism or whatever. I function & provide for myself just fine. I'm just eager to have my social retardation explained in a fascinating manner. It would also be a promotion from weirdo to semi-special snowflake.

In elementary school I figured out that everyone else seemed to be on the same page about a lot of things I didn't seem to get. I spent a lot of time consciously analyzing how people socialised, like Carrier seems to do. It was never intuitive. A huge amount of my in-person social abilities are deliberately honed affectations. I also have to consciously try to do the eye contact thing & it always gets noticed. I suspected that some well understood condition was behind this but it never seemed worth the money to have it looked into.

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rayshul wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".
I'm going to guess lack of tools (I read a bit more as that confused me too and they have to use a machine to find water, then other things to dig) and likely basic lack of agricultural knowledge as well.

How have they survived for an odd hundred thousand years without tools and basic agricultural knowledge?


I mean if they are having hardships for other reasons or people want to help them advance out of the iron age cool, but if it's lack of shoves and well building knowledge? No we have to let those people go.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:I just finished watching & thoroughly enjoying THE FALL. Mini-series about a serial killer in Belfast.
Would have been even better if the killer turned out to be Mark E Smith! :D
Don't go near series 2. You have been warned.

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I want this Carrier court action to go all the way. Costing a lot of money. I derive a lot of satisfaction from watching SJWs get themselves into financial trouble. One of the central tactics is to attack other people's employment (essentially their financial means), so it will really hurt if they start to lose lots of $$$$ in endless court action.

I now have this image of Carrier, or whoever he's up against, in a Hollywood-type court scene, with the gavel coming down on a 30 year sentence. I fucking dream of SJWs going to prison for long stretches. Pity this one won't be THAT good, but we could see Carrier and some of the other SJWs suffer.

This is a win-win for us.

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Carrier would have to self represent. The charade ends when one of the entities threatens to counter sue.

Of note, he has threatened to sue Lauren Lane, Stephanie Van, pz Myers, Free Thought Blogs, The-Orbit. But not the woman who made the initial complaint.

Could it be that he doesn't want his accusations compared to her accusations in a court of law?

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I speak from experience when I tell you that being sued by an amateur, or rather an amateur who has found a low ranking member of the bar who is willing to pass through filings for them into the for a few c notes, can be more expensive to fight than a real lawyer, because the judge will often indulge the mistakes and let them try again.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Anybody else keeping up with the Loopy Kooky Kali Bookey case? The 14yo self-proclaimed psychopath
Just you and Clarence, I think. And the rest of the world's fucking degenerates who get legal paedo thrills from stories like this, where the accused is a pretty 12-15 year old girl. The Daily Mail love you guys, they push this shit every day.

As others have said on here about you, those who shout loudest about paedos/gays/drugs, etc are often later exposed as having a strong personal interest, let's say, on the matter.

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Just woken up. I see there is a new Carrier post to read ....

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Easy J wrote:That sounds rather uninviting. I'm mostly just excited to unwrap a shiny new disorder & see how much of my quirks are me & how much are autism or whatever. I function & provide for myself just fine. I'm just eager to have my social retardation explained in a fascinating manner. It would also be a promotion from weirdo to semi-special snowflake.

In elementary school I figured out that everyone else seemed to be on the same page about a lot of things I didn't seem to get. I spent a lot of time consciously analyzing how people socialised, like Carrier seems to do. It was never intuitive. A huge amount of my in-person social abilities are deliberately honed affectations. I also have to consciously try to do the eye contact thing & it always gets noticed. I suspected that some well understood condition was behind this but it never seemed worth the money to have it looked into.
Eye-contact is something I have to force myself to do.

When I'm concentrating on something it takes up all my focus and I drop eye-contact, my voice becomes monotone, I look distracted, etc. It makes me look like I'm not paying attention when it's often precisely the opposite.

I think parents and teachers often misinterpret this kind of behaviour as a sign of boredom. It's a bugger during job interviews too.

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Where is the Amy Frank legal defense fund?

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

As others have said on here about you, those who shout loudest about paedos/gays/drugs, etc are often later exposed as having a strong personal interest, let's say, on the matter.


Fucking sexually fulfilled emotionally stable millionaires!!!!



Will that work?

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Shatterface wrote:.

The actual assessment took 18 weeks. That involves tests to rule out other conditions, IQ tests, assessment by a speech therapist, autism specialists, and a complete medical and social history. They may even interview friends and family. There's also this test called an 'awkward moments' test about hypothetical social interactions which is very like the Voight-Kampf test in Blade Runner.
"Is this a test to find out if I'm autistic or a lesbian, Mr Deckart?"

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fuzzy wrote:Around here if you asked a room full of guitar players if anybody had a "plectum" all you would get would be blank stares.
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comhcinc wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

As others have said on here about you, those who shout loudest about paedos/gays/drugs, etc are often later exposed as having a strong personal interest, let's say, on the matter.


Fucking sexually fulfilled emotionally stable millionaires!!!!



Will that work?
Only if you repeat it a couple hundred times.

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It's interesting that Carrier mentions Heina but insists any interaction he had with her that could be considered improper was limited to a single email. And yet there was that picture Brive posted here...

If any of these actions come to court then this whole thing could get really messy.

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Ah, feck it! That's the dirty one. The clean on has a Plectrum.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

As others have said on here about you, those who shout loudest about paedos/gays/drugs, etc are often later exposed as having a strong personal interest, let's say, on the matter.


Fucking sexually fulfilled emotionally stable millionaires!!!!



Will that work?
Only if you repeat it a couple hundred times.

By my large penis that is isn't tool big but is just right I think I am up to the challenge.

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rayshul wrote:Religion as a protective measure to make humans... civilised.

I have had a weird feeling about this since encountering SJWs.
Same here, the more I see of feminists and SJWs the more I like Christians.

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Hunt wrote:
rayshul wrote:I expect most people are good without God. Some people really fucking need God.

Then again you look at countries where they have asshole gods who are okay with you killing people and whatever, and you have honor killings and shit like that of people in their own fucking family, and I don't know, maybe people aren't actually good without a bit more direction.
I think religion gives people a structure to be uniquely horrible in a structured way. "Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man," as Thomas Paine said. Religion has the potential to turn he innately cruel kind, if a person's subservient rule-following overruled their lack empathy, but unfortunately the monotheisms aren't equipped to do it. People who turn to religion because they sense some lack in moral fortitude are usually jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
Whilst I agree I think the whole Jesus thing allowed the good people of Christianity a foothold in civilization.

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Cnutella wrote:If any of these actions come to court then this whole thing could get really messy.
Things usually do get messy when Carrier is around!

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fuzzy wrote:Around here if you asked a room full of guitar players if anybody had a "plectum" all you would get would be blank stares.
Isn't a plectrum a messy kind of infection like the one that made Commie's balls fall off?

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Shatterface wrote:Eye-contact is something I have to force myself to do.

When I'm concentrating on something it takes up all my focus and I drop eye-contact, my voice becomes monotone, I look distracted, etc. It makes me look like I'm not paying attention when it's often precisely the opposite.

I think parents and teachers often misinterpret this kind of behaviour as a sign of boredom. It's a bugger during job interviews too.
Sounds exactly like my general experience. I can't think or follow what someone is saying if I look them in the eye. My attention gets completely taken up with trying to do it right. Not too long or intense, not looking away too quickly, proper facial expressions that say I'm listening, ect. I have to look down or away & sorta turn my eyes off to listen properly. I still smile, nod, & laugh naturally while conversing but my eye contact thingey is broken.

Glad it's not just me.

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Easy J wrote:
That post hit a little close to home, so I found an online autism test & gave it a go.

https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spe ... /score.php

"Your score was 39 out of a possible 50. Scores in the 33-50 range indicate significant autistic traits (autism)."

Thinking of following up on this. It sure would explain a lot & might make a handy weapon when neurotypicals forget their privilege. Anyone know of any cheap but respectable ways to test for this?
20 out of 50 here, so neurotypical as fuck. :bjarte:

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DaveDodo007 wrote:
rayshul wrote:Religion as a protective measure to make humans... civilised.

I have had a weird feeling about this since encountering SJWs.
Same here, the more I see of feminists and SJWs the more I like Christians.
I see your point. It is people who rigidly follow dogma that are the problem. SJWs remind me of fundamentalist Christians and Islamists. Moderate Christians can share a lot in common with progressive liberal secular humanists. SJWs are simply toxic. There really is no common bond among atheists apart from a lack of faith in God. Atheist's politics can be all over the spectrum, despite was Peezus thinks.

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fuzzy wrote:Around here if you asked a room full of guitar players if anybody had a "plectum" all you would get would be blank stares.
I thought "dropping a plectrum" referred to what happened to Elyse Mofugly's ass.

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The new SJW meme about terrorism is that every spree killer is a terrorist, and so Muslims are only a small minority of terrorists.

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BarnOwl wrote:
Easy J wrote:
That post hit a little close to home, so I found an online autism test & gave it a go.

https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spe ... /score.php

"Your score was 39 out of a possible 50. Scores in the 33-50 range indicate significant autistic traits (autism)."

Thinking of following up on this. It sure would explain a lot & might make a handy weapon when neurotypicals forget their privilege. Anyone know of any cheap but respectable ways to test for this?
20 out of 50 here, so neurotypical as fuck. :bjarte:
I got 12 out of 50, and I'm constantly accused of being autistic. For fuck all good reason, I'm just a very practical person.

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rayshul wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".
I'm going to guess lack of tools (I read a bit more as that confused me too and they have to use a machine to find water, then other things to dig) and likely basic lack of agricultural knowledge as well.
"Fresh" water is just a social construct.

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rayshul wrote:
I got 12 out of 50, and I'm constantly accused of being autistic. For fuck all good reason, I'm just a very practical person.
I think people often use an accusation of "you're on the spectrum" as a punishment for when you don't respond to them in the manner they want/expect, or if you deliberately ignore them because they're being annoying and unreasonable. That's my experience, anyway.

I am genuinely twitchy about sounds though. :)

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41 out of 50!

I am not at all surprised.

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Kirbmarc wrote:The new SJW meme about terrorism is that every spree killer is a terrorist, and so Muslims are only a small minority of terrorists.
The pressure from SJWs to extend/redefine the meaning of "terrorism" can be directly correlated to the increase of Islamic terrorism.

Another one of their tricks is to deflect. For example, "terrorism" in the US has to be calculated from 2002 onwards. I wonder why that is? Also, they don't like when you ask them about the proportion/ratios of people involved in terrorist acts. Facts always complicate their narrative.

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Cnutella wrote:
Shatterface wrote:.

The actual assessment took 18 weeks. That involves tests to rule out other conditions, IQ tests, assessment by a speech therapist, autism specialists, and a complete medical and social history. They may even interview friends and family. There's also this test called an 'awkward moments' test about hypothetical social interactions which is very like the Voight-Kampf test in Blade Runner.
"Is this a test to find out if I'm autistic or a lesbian, Mr Deckart?"
I always thought Sean Young looked autistic in that movie. Daryl Hannah, who plays Pris, has admitted that she was tested for autism as a child.

There are autistic themes recurring throughout Philip K Dick's work.

Dick used to babysit a friend's autistic kid. That experience inspired Martian Time-Slip, about an autistic kid on Mars, written only a year or so before he wrote Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. In that a schizophrenic is hired to communicate with the kid, Manfred Steiner, who is also precognitive. Autism in that novel is explained as the brain's way of coping with a different perception of time.

Dick used the terms 'autistic' and 'schizoid' as synonyms, and he saw autism and schizophrenia as part of the same spectrum. That's largely how psychiatry saw them initially: the term 'autism' was coined by Eugen Bleuler to denote a symptom of schizophrenia. The concept of a seperate autistic spectrum didn't really come along until after Dick's death when Hans Asperger's work was translated into English.

In Do Androids..., when Rachel fails the Voight-Kampf test, her uncle (called Rosen in the book, not Tyrell) tries to convince Deckard she is human but schizoid. Deckard is aware that the VK fails when used on schizoids, which is why he is afraid of 'retiring' a human by mistake. The novel is more concerned with the possibility of humans failing the test than with androids passing it.

Pris and Rachel are the same model in Androids, which is why Deckard has a hard time killing Pris.

Pris first appeared in Dick's We Can Build You, written just before Androids but published afterwards. In that she was human but schizoid and had recently been released from an institution.

In K W Jeter's sequel to Blade Runner Pris turns out to be a human who thought she was an robot. One of the first studies of an autistic was a study of a boy with the same delusion.

The character of JT Isidore from Androids (the basis of JF Sebastian in the movie) originally appeared in Dick's Confessions of a Crap Artist which, like We Can Build You, was written before Androids but published afterwards. Isidore is autistic in Crap Artist.

Deckard is married in the book; his wife suffers from what she, herself, describes as 'an absence of appropriate affect' - a symptom of autism.

In Androids the androids are unable to commune with the messianic Mercer because they cannot use the 'empathy boxes' that humans use to become part of a group mind. The androids are atheists and one, a TV celebrity called Buster Friendly, attempts to debunk Mercerism. Dicks' Deus Irae, co-written with Roger Zelazny, attributes the lack of religious belief in autistics to that same lack of empathy.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Jaime Jupiter, Magda Mars, Sarah Saturn, now Lauren Lane... do all of his harem have twinned initials? :think:
Well Mrs Lane seems to be persona non-grata with the illustrious Dr and definitely not one composing detailed character reference defences for him, so we can rule her out. However, the other three, are Jupiter, Mars and Saturn former paramours who wrote in Dicky's defence? I do recall Jaime as having the surname Juniper when mentioned here first. If it's Juniper then it's nothing but if it's Jupiter, well, it may still be nothing but it would be a fine coincidence.
deLurch wrote:I would like to remind everyone, that this is actually the details of Phase One of his legal action

Richard Carrier wrote:
Phase one of my legal action on that will be completed tomorrow. And I will publish those details by the end of this week.


http://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/10912

Well he hasn't stated that he has fired off any legal letters. Odds are if he had a lawyer, he would have advised Richard against making this post.
Awesome, that there is a real strong suggestion that he's represented by the prestigious law firm of Carrier and Carrier. Sure it's practically the same as history, reading documents and interpreting them competently, a cinch for a great mind like his.

:popcorn:

Oh and I got 23 in that test, guess I just hate people.

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comhcinc wrote:Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".
One problem is-- any time the pygmies have anything nice, their slavemaster neighbors come & take it. Most pygmies don't a blanket, a second set of clothes. Children & old people don't have a pair of shoes.

So, for every well the MMA guy digs on pygmy land/ they dig one on the slaver's side too, so they won't overrun the pygmy villages.

Also, MMA guy's role is to tell the people who know how to dig clean wells-- at the nearest university-- that the pygmies need wells.
The he brings the university-people to pygmyland teach the pygmies to dig the well themselves.

Apparently it's easy to dig a well wrong, so it looks clean but the water still kills. He tells a story about Uganda, which is ostensibly better off-- but the well he saw there was literally between the 2 pumps at a gas station, between an open pit latrine and a trash dump.

It seems hard to dig a well THAT wrong.

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Goddamn, only the Commander bombed it worse than I did? What am I, fucking Nec over here? The Pit's WW2 tank knowledge alone makes me suspect that there are several mid-40 scores lurking about.

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9 of 50. Definitely not a robot. I do score high on noticing little things like sounds, etc. I also have very distinct memories from childhood. Like when I saw a thousand baby spiders hatch.

https://psychology-tools.com/autism-spectrum-quotient/

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Oh shit. Carrier said SSA specifically told him he could keep speaking for the SSA branches. Looks like Mr. CampQueSSA has some splaining to do...

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I'm either very autistic, or not autistic, depending whether

"Definitely" means 'all the time' + "Slightly" means 'occassionally'

VS.

"Definitely" means 'very much so, when true/ but also sometimes not' + 'Slightly' means 'somewhat/ but also sometimes not at all'.


Among other parsings, which perhaps themselves indicate Autism or some other diagnosis. Terminal pedantry. maybe.

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I'd trust the test more, if you weren't told it's an Autism test, beforehand.

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Service Dog wrote:
comhcinc wrote: One problem is-- any time the pygmies have anything nice, their slavemaster neighbors come & take it. Most pygmies don't a blanket, a second set of clothes. Children & old people don't have a pair of shoes.
This reminds me of the story of the three little pygmies, who built their well casings out of successively better materials.

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Wow...Carrier blames it all on an ex lover going Fatal Attraction on him. He is Ben Radford, but guilty.

And a scumbag.

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Some suggested questions for a test for the Dick Carrier Spectrum:

* If a woman looks at me, it means she wants sex with me: strongly agree/slightly agree/slightly disagree/strongly disagree

* I can usually master a new field of study in a few minutes:

* If people disagree with me, they must be insane:

* The historicity of religious figures can be mathematically disproven with a confidence of several decimal places:

* People generally like to hear about my sexual fetishes:

* If I take a sex worker on a date, and pay for everything on the date, then lend her some money, but don't pay directly for the sex, it's not paying for sex:

* Calling someone an "idiot" automatically negates their argument:

* When I'm having sex with my girlfriend, and my girlfriend's husband's sperm gets on my face, I could catch Teh Gay:

* Terms like "peer-reviewed" can mean whatever you want them to mean:

* Size matters:

* I am a very good dancer:

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Cultural Appropriation!!!!

[youtube]LE89B_GKM9U[/youtube]

Tarzan, surprisingly accurate:

[youtube]9uQTY1DDTlQ[/youtube]

Violating the Prime Directive.

[youtube]aNBSgBMmo8M[/youtube]

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Easy J wrote:Goddamn, only the Commander bombed it worse than I did? What am I, fucking Nec over here? The Pit's WW2 tank knowledge alone makes me suspect that there are several mid-40 scores lurking about.
I only got mid to high 20s. Still pegged me as having weird traits but. Probably helped by having no capacity to remember phone numbers and finding most museums boring.

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I managed to work a Carrierism into a convo with a random gay stalker that popped out of nowhere on Facebook:

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Service Dog wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Why don't pygmy understand how to dig their own wells.

It just seems that at this point in history people should at least get the "building a well for fresh water".
One problem is-- any time the pygmies have anything nice, their slavemaster neighbors come & take it. Most pygmies don't a blanket, a second set of clothes. Children & old people don't have a pair of shoes.

So, for every well the MMA guy digs on pygmy land/ they dig one on the slaver's side too, so they won't overrun the pygmy villages.

Also, MMA guy's role is to tell the people who know how to dig clean wells-- at the nearest university-- that the pygmies need wells.
The he brings the university-people to pygmyland teach the pygmies to dig the well themselves.

Apparently it's easy to dig a well wrong, so it looks clean but the water still kills. He tells a story about Uganda, which is ostensibly better off-- but the well he saw there was literally between the 2 pumps at a gas station, between an open pit latrine and a trash dump.

It seems hard to dig a well THAT wrong.
He's cis hetero white male. What do you expect. He is just exploiting those people. (guaranteed)

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Really? wrote:Wow...Carrier blames it all on an ex lover going Fatal Attraction on him. He is Ben Radford, but guilty.

And a scumbag.
This is warming up nicely.

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