The Refuge of the Toads

[MacGruberKnows]

Accessibiliy???

:twatson:

My list of pronouns:

Him
Her
Whatever.

[jimhabegger]

Actually, I'm not sure how popular anti-Muslim propaganda actually is here. I can only think of a few people that I've seen promoting it. Maybe my feeling that it's popular comes from not seeing any opposition to it, except from Kirbmarc, and even that looks very weak to me. All in all, it created doubts in my mind about how much critical thinking anyone here has done about it.

We all know that the Salafis/Wahabi have declared war and are busy slaughtering everyone else including other Muslims who are not Salafi enough. That is not anti-Muslim propaganda.

Well, we have one outspoken person who would quite happily "nuke Mecca from orbit" but apart from that?

If you're asking again for examples of what I meant by "anti-Muslim propaganda," see my post about that in the "Islam and Islamists" thread.

[MacGruberKnows]

http://imgur.com/An1vhxL.jpg



One of them will always steer discussion back to the time Richard Dawkins wronged her. But yeah, most people think she's a woman.

I will take on man from Nasa over 4 women from Skepchick anyday.

Especially this NASA guy:

[youtube]0BZDv9-R1KE[/youtube]

[AndrewV69]

<chop>

The hippies tried it, the dadaists tried it, the romantics tried it. Every generation or so tries it, and each thinks it's discovered some amazing, liberating secret to happiness and a commitment-free fuck buffet. And it fails every time, because jealousy and the desire to form dedicated pairings is innate in humans. If you get off on watching or hearing about your partner banging someone else, hey go for it -- but it's a kink, not a new social paradigm.

The hormone Oxytocin has a lot to answer for.

[Ape+lust]

Peez is sporting an exciting new raggedy-ass look at this years Convergence:

http://imgur.com/GsyoInj.jpg

http://imgur.com/yqhO6tC.jpg



...and dining carnivorous-vegan style again:

http://imgur.com/sDZ2Ieg.jpg

[Cnutella]

I see your Skepchick Labs pics and raise you this fine figure of a man...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg

[Gumby]

http://imgur.com/An1vhxL.jpg



One of them will always steer discussion back to the time Richard Dawkins wronged her. But yeah, most people think she's a woman.

I love how the science is of lesser import to the tweeter than the number of women on the panel.

Also, Rebecca Watson trying once again to pretend she knows anything about science :lol:

[Tigzy]

Accessibiliy???

:twatson:

If I was an African American and attending that conference, I'd request that my preferred pronoun is 'Nigger', just to see what the lil whitebread SJWs would do.

[Ape+lust]

http://imgur.com/An1vhxL.jpg



One of them will always steer discussion back to the time Richard Dawkins wronged her. But yeah, most people think she's a woman.

I will take on man from Nasa over 4 women from Skepchick anyday.

Especially this NASA guy:

[youtube]0BZDv9-R1KE[/youtube]

I saw a longer version where he gets a down-vote from the blonde. He had such a look of disbelief -- you didn't LIKE that??!!. It was beautiful :lol:

[Parody Accountant]

Empty room at the space panel.

PZ has a mullet.

Cringe anti-misogyny shirt.

Nobody is having sex. I bet a lot of people smell funny.

[Steersman]

... you pointedly, and rather obnoxiously, refuse to consider that that claim about "the words of God Himself" constitute a rather odious and problematic fallacy.

Was that another one of your implicit questions, where you forgot to put a question mark at the end? If so let me know, and I'll respond to it in my closet thread.

[Ape+lust]

http://imgur.com/An1vhxL.jpg



One of them will always steer discussion back to the time Richard Dawkins wronged her. But yeah, most people think she's a woman.

I love how the science is of lesser import to the tweeter than the number of women on the panel.

Also, Rebecca Watson trying once again to pretend she knows anything about science :lol:

Yeah, who cares? The real selling point -- plenty of legroom! Manspread while you mansplain! :lol:

Note that Peez is also on a spaceflight panel. Whatever his Bubblicious does...

[Really?]

...and dining carnivorous-vegan style again:

http://imgur.com/sDZ2Ieg.jpg

Seeing as how Peez's family is now part-Korean, shouldn't he consider that food cultural appropriation? Perhaps he can provide us with proof that the people who cooked it are 100% Korean.

[AndrewV69]

I see a lot of anger at Regressive Islam-absolving propaganda, which is IMHO more than justified.

I see that, and I agree with you about that, but I see it continually intermingled with anti-Muslim propaganda, and more as camouflage for anti-Muslim prejudice than actually trying to do anything to help stop the violence.

The Saudis have something called the Mohammed bin Nayef Center for Counseling and Care but I hear that it is not working too well.

The core of the program is to return extremists to the "true Islam." The program employs intensive religious instruction by deconstructing extremists’ interpretation of the Holy Qur'an. Following rigorous debate, Islamic scholars and clerics, many employed by Saudi Arabia’s universities, establish a foundation for different interpretation that brings extremists back in line to the true meaning of Islam. Saudi Arabia’s rehabilitation program is modeled after a similar program implemented in Egypt in the 1990s. Indonesia and Singapore, in turn, established rehabilitation programs based on the Saudi Arabian model. Program discussions focus on jihad (military and personal struggles), takfir (unbelievers), bay’at (allegiance) and walaah (loyalty to the Muslim community). The program, for example, focuses on how individuals can only wage jihad with government approval — specifically the head or ruler of state — and not through a fatwa issued by an ideologue aligned with a terrorist organization. Counseling and evaluation follows religious instruction. Determining whether former extremists are suitable for release is the responsibility of the Saudi Ministry of Interior and its security forces personnel. A condition of release is placing former detainees under a monitoring system similar to parole or probation. Many released detainees remain under constant surveillance. In June 2010, the Saudi Ministry of Interior determined that 25 of the 120 former Guantanamo Bay detainees who graduated the rehabilitation program returned to terrorist activities. Eleven of the 25 joined Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen. However, the overall recidivism rate of more than 3,000 program graduates as of 2010 remains about 10 percent. Al-Qaeda had previously announced plans to target a key component of the program, which allows fugitive extremists to voluntarily surrender and become eligible for the program. Al-Qaeda’s announcement was intended to challenge Saudi Arabia’s official interpretation of Islam by attempting to draw wavering extremists who desire to give up terrorism back into the embrace of Al-Qaeda

My solution is to kill all the Salafis. Failing that, cut off their funding. As neither is about to happen any time soon be prepared for many more decades of Muslim violence.

Especially Muslim on Muslim violence. The biggest threat to any Muslim is usually another Muslim.

[Cnutella]

:twatson:

BWAHAHAHA

DJ Amanda Marcotte couldn't mix a cake. Because shr's got more important work to do,cfighting patriarchy, obvs.

[Really?]

I see your Skepchick Labs pics and raise you this fine figure of a man...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg

At least that's the look of a man who knows that the only way he'll get close to pussy is if he starts volunteering at the animal shelter.

[Brive1987]

My wife has decided she might like an ex demo (1000km) 2016 Mini S soft top identical to below.

We have an 8 yo Honda CRV with all the bells and whistles. (L). It probably only worth about 7-10k.

The plan is to get a second car, keep the Honda for son and daughter to learn and drive on, down size for the smaller per journey numbers now in play and use the Honda when a full load is required.

The Mini would be a big extravagance used daily but only in local area.

It's not an S (ie it's a 1.5 turbo) but is optioned up. Wife has always had a sporty car like this on her bucket list as long as I can remember. She test drove it today and loved it.

Deci$ions. Anyone had any experience here.

Please.

[i.mg]http://resources.carsguide.com.au/style ... le-(4).jpg[/img]

Brive, my sister has the Mini Countryman, which is a SUV type thing, it's more spacious, she ferries her 3 young uns around in it. I was messaging her earlier and asked her what she thought, and she said "I do love it, it's a great car, but since the 3 year warranty ran out loads of things need fixing, my friend had the same, so whether bad luck or common I don't know. Last year the clutch went, now brake discs ansd a massive long list :cry: :cry: "

So, anecdata I know, I would have thought that BMW being in control would mean good reliability? Good ol' German engineering and all that!

This is the Countryman.

[.img]http://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecac ... %20(1).jpg[/img]

Ahh. Thanks. Im tending to pull back, the "this weekend only" sales pressure on a car with a 1000ks on it isn't helping.

[Ape+lust]

I see your Skepchick Labs pics and raise you this fine figure of a man...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg

Who gave the Skepchicks gene therapy kits? They copied a swathe of Richard Simmons into the poor guy's DNA.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I'm in Phil mode: just cooking a bollock-burning chili with my nice new Henckels Zwilking knives (first time out!) and while I was chopping th Scotch Bonnets, I slice a piece of a fingernail off, plus a bit of flesh underneath because I was too lazy to make the claw. Well, fugger me, but those Scotch Bonnets burn like fuck. Plus I was stupid enough to put my finger in my mouth.

:burn: :burn: :burn:

Still an amateur.

[Parody Accountant]

<chop>

The hippies tried it, the dadaists tried it, the romantics tried it. Every generation or so tries it, and each thinks it's discovered some amazing, liberating secret to happiness and a commitment-free fuck buffet. And it fails every time, because jealousy and the desire to form dedicated pairings is innate in humans. If you get off on watching or hearing about your partner banging someone else, hey go for it -- but it's a kink, not a new social paradigm.

The hormone Oxytocin has a lot to answer for.

Also, MEN were in charge in those other generations. If you just put Svan or Benson in charge, there wouldn't be any issues.

Everybody love everybody.

Serious note though, I actually agree with Matt's description. I could possibly embrace that kink - provided she is into it - but I wouldn't ever try to dress it up as a movement.

[free thoughtpolice]

Empty room at the space panel.

PZ has a mullet.

Cringe anti-misogyny shirt.

Nobody is having sex. I bet a lot of people smell funny.

Well I do recall PZ and others returning home and showering to get rid of "con crud". I know I would feel dirty if I attended a function with that crew there.

[Aneris]

Peez is sporting an exciting new raggedy-ass look at this years Convergence:

http://imgur.com/GsyoInj.jpg

http://imgur.com/yqhO6tC.jpg



<snip>

:laughing-rollingyellow:

I...

:laughing-rollingyellow:

can't even.

[Ape+lust]

There's probably no arguing the masculinity, but I only see two who are toxic.

http://imgur.com/c3w50Dg.jpg

[Billie from Ockham]

http://resources.carsguide.com.au/style ... le-(4).jpg

You have a very, very feminine wife.

Actually, a moment after this picture was taken, a woman lifted her head up out of the driver's lap. Hence, the smile.

[Parody Accountant]

I see your Skepchick Labs pics and raise you this fine figure of a man...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg

Who gave the Skepchicks gene therapy kits? They copied a swathe of Richard Simmons into the poor guy's DNA.

I think he's trying to do the Harriet Hall thing? Her shirt was funny and well-timed, but perhaps not a great eye for typography or design. Her's was like a 7/10

His shirt is like an advertisement for being a beta-type with mental disorders. He had an idea, and then the voices interrupted. His is like a banana / 10.

[katamari Damassi]

Accessibiliy???

:twatson:

If I was an African American and attending that conference, I'd request that my preferred pronoun is 'Nigger', just to see what the lil whitebread SJWs would do.

:clap:

[Ape+lust]

:twatson:

BWAHAHAHA

DJ Amanda Marcotte couldn't mix a cake. Because shr's got more important work to do,cfighting patriarchy, obvs.

But, there ARE pics on the web of Marcotte DJing.

Amanda gettin' down is as unnerving as you'd expect :shock:

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

It seems the German contingent of our board is miffed with the Brexit. Am I mistaken? Why are they displeased? Inquiring minds and all that.

You noticed that. Probably fear that Britain is not going to implode and sink into the sea without the EU, thus exposing the decades of maipulative bullshit the EU has been pulling on the UK as just that. The attitude is familiar and one of the reasons elements of the the UK populace dislike the EU.

[Parody Accountant]

There's probably no arguing the masculinity, but I only see two who are toxic.

http://imgur.com/c3w50Dg.jpg

I'm sure the toxicity is more pungent in person. I feel sick. My brain imagines an odor for them. Like beef and hot garbage.

[Suet Cardigan]

http://imgur.com/yqhO6tC.jpg

"Our Place in Space"?

I'd like to see everyone on that panel blasted into space, that's for fucking certain.

[katamari Damassi]

Are people here keeping up to date the latest on that Rolling Stone journalist who jumped the gun on "Jackie".

Quite a few sites are commenting on the emails that seems to show the moment Erdely's cognitive dissonance was punctured, and she realised Jackie might be a bit of a Billy Liar. I like moments like that. Like the moment a murderer realises they are going to be arrested. I wonder if the like of Amanda Marcotte still believe "Jackie"?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... th-jackie/

Quite a few gleeful people on Twitter talking about it. Of course, Carrier's accusers might be "Jackie's", but in the case of Carrier, I don't think so.

Why does the press continue to go to lengths to conceal Jacqueline Coakley's identity? If I created a hoax that caused a lot of damage and upset, do you think my name wouldn't be plastered all over the media?

[Parody Accountant]

Is there a link to see DJ Marcotte? my twitter fake person is blocked by a lot of the people

[Brive1987]

Re minis. This doesn't look good. Not good at all.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/mini.html

[AndrewV69]

Are people here keeping up to date the latest on that Rolling Stone journalist who jumped the gun on "Jackie".

Quite a few sites are commenting on the emails that seems to show the moment Erdely's cognitive dissonance was punctured, and she realised Jackie might be a bit of a Billy Liar. I like moments like that. Like the moment a murderer realises they are going to be arrested. I wonder if the like of Amanda Marcotte still believe "Jackie"?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... th-jackie/

Quite a few gleeful people on Twitter talking about it. Of course, Carrier's accusers might be "Jackie's", but in the case of Carrier, I don't think so.

The now-retracted story that appeared in Rolling Stone recounted an attack during which Jackie was held captive in a fraternity room for more than three hours while she was raped repeatedly by seven men while lying on shards of glass from a broken table

Oh FFS!

The broken glass detail was a huge red flag. If you know anything about men finding one that would risk his penis getting close to broken glass among the "normal" population is rare much less the chance that seven men would have no problem with it.

The account was clearly a rape fantasy by a woman who was in love with the thought that she was so sexually attractive that no less than seven men would loose all control in their desire to fuck her they would ignore any and all hazards to do so and was aimed specifically at the guy she was catfishing.

The message to the guy was "I am so desirable that no less than seven men raped me (so it was not my fault) ignoring the broken glass, so something must be the matter with you if you do not want to fuck me".

Who the fuck does not pick up on this?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I now realize my Fairyland tweeter handle is one mighty weapon. SJWs don't really know how to react in a PC way.

Like if Cannibal Corpse tweeted as MLPFIM...

[Gumby]

I love the lack of audience pics. A guaranteed flop. But oh yeah they came up with the flimsiest of excuses for that - some snowflakes might feel raped if someone takes their picture, so they purposely don't take audience shots, donchaknow.

[katamari Damassi]

DJ Amanda Marcotte couldn't mix a cake. Because shr's got more important work to do,cfighting patriarchy, obvs.

But, there ARE pics on the web of Marcotte DJing.

Amanda gettin' down is as unnerving as you'd expect :shock:[/quote]
I don't know if she still is, but she used to be one of those music hipsters wherein she extolled bands you've never heard of until you hear of them, then they're shit music for losers. So expect a lot of undanceable crap from her.

[CommanderTuvok]

In rampant islamophobia news: Last week CBC news reported a muslimah wearing a hijab was assaulted by a woman in a supermarket. I recall the CBC announcer talking about this as a probable hate crime and mentioned that the assailant pulled at the hijab that the woman chose to wear (with special emphasis on the word "chose"). This story ran at the top of news hour for about three days and went silent soon after a suspect was charged.
Here is a follow up from the not always reliable rebelmedia:
http://www.therebel.media/exclusive_med ... his_be_why

Yeah, I saw this as well.

The frequent accusation is that hate crime attacks on Muslims and other minorities is always under-reported, something I am not convinced about, although the MSM obviously tend to pick and choose. But we also get incidents like this, where the MSM is very loud about a possible "hate crime" attack, but drops the story like a dead labrador when the reality gets in the way of their pre-written narrative.

[CommanderTuvok]

Has everybody else noticed what I noticed? About the photographs we have seen from Convergence so far?

Yup. Not too many non-white faces? The racists!

#ConvergenceSoWhite

[Ape+lust]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg
I think he's trying to do the Harriet Hall thing? Her shirt was funny and well-timed, but perhaps not a great eye for typography or design. Her's was like a 7/10

His shirt is like an advertisement for being a beta-type with mental disorders. He had an idea, and then the voices interrupted. His is like a banana / 10.

HAHA, I think that's right. I'll bet every impulse that crackles across his brain makes him giddy-dance until it's expressed.

I like watching AE's Martin Wagner because he's like that. Matt, the alpha, does most of the talking. Eventually you'll see a genius quip occur to Martin, but Matt won't shut up, and the pressure builds until he blurts. Loudly. Then there's a stretch of dead air while Matt let's everyone savor the fart in the room, and Martin thinks about hanging himself.

[Shatterface]

http://imgur.com/yqhO6tC.jpg

"Our Place in Space"?

I'd like to see everyone on that panel blasted into space, that's for fucking certain.

The people I really want to hear from on a panel about space exploration are a couple of feminists, a marine biologist, and a dude dressed in Princess Leia's slave girl outfit.

[Shatterface]

I see your Skepchick Labs pics and raise you this fine figure of a man...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVghhDUEAAeehh.jpg

That looks like Paul Cornell.

[Steersman]

It seems the German contingent of our board is miffed with the Brexit. Am I mistaken? Why are they displeased? Inquiring minds and all that.

You noticed that. Probably fear that Britain is not going to implode and sink into the sea without the EU, thus exposing the decades of maipulative bullshit the EU has been pulling on the UK as just that. The attitude is familiar and one of the reasons elements of the the UK populace dislike the EU.

I see that Merkel is "not amused" with Juncker for whom the bell may be about to toll - so to speak:
Angela Merkel 'to oust Jean-Claude Juncker' as Europe splits deepen over Brexit response

Sounds like it couldn't happen to a nicer fellow ...

[Ape+lust]

Is there a link to see DJ Marcotte? my twitter fake person is blocked by a lot of the people

Remember, you asked :D

Oh, and I'm happy to see you back again. Wanted to say that in case you get skunked off by Marcotte pics :lol:

http://imgur.com/hvwMxOd.jpg

http://imgur.com/SLcK9xM.jpg

http://imgur.com/pO8hwZw.jpg

http://imgur.com/NPawYAn.jpg

[Gumby]

Has everybody else noticed what I noticed? About the photographs we have seen from Convergence so far?

Yup. Not too many non-white faces? The racists!

#ConvergenceSoWhite

Par for the course. They've squawked about diversity at us sinners for years, but their get-togethers are the least-diverse groups in the a/s con circuit.

Their throwing around the word "Diversity" is a diversion, a weak attempt to make it sound like these slacker harpies actually give a shit about anything but their lazy, infantilizing version of feminism.

Actual diversity is difficult. Not only do you have to make a conscious effort to be more inclusive, you also have to work past the apprehension and possible distrust of the groups you're trying to put under your tent.

That's too much work for these dundering sots, so they just club us over the head with the word "diversity", hoping we'll go on the defensive and not notice that their gatherings are about as diverse as Klan meetings.

[Skep tickle]

Are people here keeping up to date the latest on that Rolling Stone journalist who jumped the gun on "Jackie".

Quite a few sites are commenting on the emails that seems to show the moment Erdely's cognitive dissonance was punctured, and she realised Jackie might be a bit of a Billy Liar. I like moments like that. Like the moment a murderer realises they are going to be arrested. I wonder if the like of Amanda Marcotte still believe "Jackie"?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... th-jackie/ ...

Then, according to the new court filings, she came to lose confidence in the primary source in her article after other news organizations began to unravel the details.

Oops. :doh:

[Really?]

DJ Amanda Marcotte couldn't mix a cake. Because shr's got more important work to do,cfighting patriarchy, obvs.

But, there ARE pics on the web of Marcotte DJing.

Amanda gettin' down is as unnerving as you'd expect :shock:

I don't know if she still is, but she used to be one of those music hipsters wherein she extolled bands you've never heard of until you hear of them, then they're shit music for losers. So expect a lot of undanceable crap from her.

Pretty much all dance music is rapey because men moving rhythmically near a woman is rape, so I have no idea what a feminist DJ would play. I would say Beyonce, but she is staying with a man who cheated on her or whatever.

In rampant islamophobia news: Last week CBC news reported a muslimah wearing a hijab was assaulted by a woman in a supermarket. I recall the CBC announcer talking about this as a probable hate crime and mentioned that the assailant pulled at the hijab that the woman chose to wear (with special emphasis on the word "chose"). This story ran at the top of news hour for about three days and went silent soon after a suspect was charged.
Here is a follow up from the not always reliable rebelmedia:
http://www.therebel.media/exclusive_med ... his_be_why

Yeah, I saw this as well.

The frequent accusation is that hate crime attacks on Muslims and other minorities is always under-reported, something I am not convinced about, although the MSM obviously tend to pick and choose. But we also get incidents like this, where the MSM is very loud about a possible "hate crime" attack, but drops the story like a dead labrador when the reality gets in the way of their pre-written narrative.

"Unreported crimes" bother me. I don't think those should be counted. They weren't reported. Feminists come up with the dumbest fucking numbers, like 90% of all rapes go unreported. It's 2016. I think it's abundantly clear that if someone forces you against your will or drugs you, then the police will investigate. (I know...investigation is part of patriarchy.) You can't say, "Oh, there was one reported rape at this state university, therefore, there must have been at least 2000 actual rapes. Give us money for the Women's Studies department." That's bullshit and it's the furthest thing from skeptical.

Are people here keeping up to date the latest on that Rolling Stone journalist who jumped the gun on "Jackie".

Quite a few sites are commenting on the emails that seems to show the moment Erdely's cognitive dissonance was punctured, and she realised Jackie might be a bit of a Billy Liar. I like moments like that. Like the moment a murderer realises they are going to be arrested. I wonder if the like of Amanda Marcotte still believe "Jackie"?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/gra ... th-jackie/

Quite a few gleeful people on Twitter talking about it. Of course, Carrier's accusers might be "Jackie's", but in the case of Carrier, I don't think so.

Why does the press continue to go to lengths to conceal Jacqueline Coakley's identity? If I created a hoax that caused a lot of damage and upset, do you think my name wouldn't be plastered all over the media?

HOW DARE YOU. SHE IS A NEWLYWED AND SHE MAY BE PREGNANT. SHE HAS MUCH BIGGER CONCERNS THAN SOME COLLEGE FLING SHE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE WITH HAVEN MONAHAN WHO DIDN'T EVEN EXIST LIKE A MILLION YEARS AGO.

http://imgur.com/yqhO6tC.jpg

"Our Place in Space"?

I'd like to see everyone on that panel blasted into space, that's for fucking certain.

PZ needs to be on a future mission so he can pour Roundup into a fish tank on the craft and do some real science for once.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q2o5dzO7Jro/maxresdefault.jpg

[Tigzy]

Is there a link to see DJ Marcotte? my twitter fake person is blocked by a lot of the people

Remember, you asked :D

Oh, and I'm happy to see you back again. Wanted to say that in case you get skunked off by Marcotte pics :lol:

http://imgur.com/hvwMxOd.jpg

etc

Just think, that's what Tom Cruise looks like when he cums.

[Parody Accountant]

Is there a link to see DJ Marcotte? my twitter fake person is blocked by a lot of the people

Remember, you asked :D

Oh, and I'm happy to see you back again. Wanted to say that in case you get skunked off by Marcotte pics :lol:

http://imgur.com/hvwMxOd.jpg

etc

Just think, that's what Tom Cruise looks like when he cums.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

:cdc:

[Parody Accountant]

Can't unsee tom cruise marcotte.

[Aneris]

It seems the German contingent of our board is miffed with the Brexit. Am I mistaken? Why are they displeased? Inquiring minds and all that.

You noticed that. Probably fear that Britain is not going to implode and sink into the sea without the EU, thus exposing the decades of maipulative bullshit the EU has been pulling on the UK as just that. The attitude is familiar and one of the reasons elements of the the UK populace dislike the EU.

Actually, Britain enjoyed plenty of extras. You have the wrong impression when you thought the Brits had a bad deal. I personally believe more in the European idea than the actual political construction, which can be criticized on many grounds. I also like the Brits. Their general attitude, together with the Dutch and Scandinavians, is also closer to “us” than the others.

I think, Britain will be worse off, which seems true at the moment. I will only seriously consider a situation again at the next milestones (triggering article 50, and separation) and perhaps in June in one year, and say in 2020 — to prevent cherrypicking. Also, experts are supposed to assess the situation, which will have some preference, despite the danger of partisan interpretations.

For the time being, I am more interested in the mental gymnastics of the Brexit camp, especially should things move forward and Irish and Scots split off. I will also see what's going on with the NHS, where promises were made; or with Wales who received funds from Europe. Well, they rejected that support and of course the Right Wingers won't step up to the plate. Some commentators fear that immigrants become the next scapegoat, after Europe has been ruled out. It doesn't look good for England, but hey, you won the poll.

I also changed my opinion on one matter. I thought that a terrible Trump would be a teaching lesson, that people would see how the public sector gets sold off and you get privatized rubbish in return, and more like that. But I now believe that people are far more invested in their wrong decision than I expected, and I already write about cognitive distortions all the time. I now think that Trump supporters could drown in poison water and starve to death from a defunct wellfare system, and still be convinced Republicans are great. That's their succesful formula in Kentucky, as I learned in the meantime. Similar thing there: they vote for the right wing club, who do what is expected, but then blame some further away government that has little to with local politics and blame them (e.g. Obama).

Once people are disenfranchised, they can then be incited to hate some other group of have-nots — old vs young, white vs black, men vs women, as long as it distracts from the actual major problems (where my contempt for SJWs also enters the picture as foremost identitarian gender-race warriors). That's where the Murdochs and Fox News, or the SJW media hate machine comes in. They blame the next group, and rinse and repeat.

[Steersman]

I see a lot of anger at Regressive Islam-absolving propaganda, which is IMHO more than justified.

I see that, and I agree with you about that, but I see it continually intermingled with anti-Muslim propaganda, and more as camouflage for anti-Muslim prejudice than actually trying to do anything to help stop the violence.

The Saudis have something called the Mohammed bin Nayef Center for Counseling and Care but I hear that it is not working too well.
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My solution is to kill all the Salafis. Failing that, cut off their funding. As neither is about to happen any time soon be prepared for many more decades of Muslim violence.

Could always just "nuke Mecca (from orbit; just to be sure ...)", you know. ;-) But interesting passage from a recent FT article (might be behind paywall but the tweet link seems to work - once):

The conservative kingdom’s education system has been dominated by religious learning for decades.

Saudi Arabia’s human development indicators, spanning factors such as health and education, lag far behind other emerging markets such as Zambia and Ghana, according to the World Bank’s human capital index.

But closing all mosques and madrasas, along with booting out all mullahs - as Australia recently did for one of them - might be a good start. Followed up, if necessary, by deporting all Muslims as Greece did in 1923.

Especially Muslim on Muslim violence. The biggest threat to any Muslim is usually another Muslim.

Doncha know that those aren't "true Muslims (tm)"? Fact:

[Ape+lust]

But, there ARE pics on the web of Marcotte DJing.

Amanda gettin' down is as unnerving as you'd expect :shock:

I don't know if she still is, but she used to be one of those music hipsters wherein she extolled bands you've never heard of until you hear of them, then they're shit music for losers. So expect a lot of undanceable crap from her.

The pics are from an 80s-themed party. Who but losers would want to spend a night in the 80s, anyway? 1-finger synth bands, hair metal, and ostentatiously-denim roots rock ("Br-o-o-o-o-o-o-c-e!!"). You go, Amanda!

[free thoughtpolice]

Gumby wrote:

Actual diversity is difficult. Not only do you have to make a conscious effort to be more inclusive, you also have to work past the apprehension and possible distrust of the groups you're trying to put under your tent.

That's too much work for these dundering sots, so they just club us over the head with the word "diversity", hoping we'll go on the defensive and not notice that their gatherings are about as diverse as Klan meetings.

What is puzzling is this Black Humanist and Feminist Humanists, and a special CFI ladies auxillary with Squirrely Amy in charge sort of phenomena.
That's segregation not diversity.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Accessibiliy???

:twatson:

Cheque you're spellist prvilage!

[Lsuoma]

Has everybody else noticed what I noticed? About the photographs we have seen from Convergence so far?

Yup. Not too many non-white faces? The racists!

#ConvergenceSoWhite

Par for the course. They've squawked about diversity at us sinners for years, but their get-togethers are the least-diverse groups in the a/s con circuit.

Their throwing around the word "Diversity" is a diversion, a weak attempt to make it sound like these slacker harpies actually give a shit about anything but their lazy, infantilizing version of feminism.

Actual diversity is difficult. Not only do you have to make a conscious effort to be more inclusive, you also have to work past the apprehension and possible distrust of the groups you're trying to put under your tent.

That's too much work for these dundering sots, so they just club us over the head with the word "diversity", hoping we'll go on the defensive and not notice that their gatherings are about as diverse as Klan meetings.

Actually, the word is spelled "Diversiy".

[Gumby]

:lol:

[free thoughtpolice]

But, there ARE pics on the web of Marcotte DJing.

Amanda gettin' down is as unnerving as you'd expect :shock:

I don't know if she still is, but she used to be one of those music hipsters wherein she extolled bands you've never heard of until you hear of them, then they're shit music for losers. So expect a lot of undanceable crap from her.

The pics are from an 80s-themed party. Who but losers would want to spend a night in the 80s, anyway? 1-finger synth bands, hair metal, and ostentatiously-denim roots rock ("Br-o-o-o-o-o-o-c-e!!"). You go, Amanda!

And you forgot using flower pots as hats. :dance:
[youtube]QDWlNv5XFFM[/youtube]

[Badger3k]

So, if my son and I were interested in a building game like Minecraft, but want good graphics, what is the suggestion, please?

Here's a Steam link of 'sandbox' games with 'building' checked: http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Sa ... ewReleases . Some look like good graphics and others bad. There's 106 results, but less when narrowed down by your operating system.

Thanks, but that might be too overwhelming. I'm a sheep. I was hoping for something like "buy Forest!"

I've tried and watched some of the Ark:Survival Evolved game. You can build a lot, has dinosaurs, and has (apparently) servers where it has no PvP so if you build something and come back later some dick won't have destroyed it all and stolen all your stuff. I think. I tried it, got turned off by the DOS-era menus and appearance, and since I tend to play with something for a bit then put it aside for a long time, the idea that someone could destroy what I made...not appealing. Plus, the way those things work, if it was just PvP, since I don't play much I'd be outclassed by any asshole, so why bother. Two of the channels I watch that have done Ark are: hit girl bet (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwncAK ... 4Dt4if0BEQ) and Neebs Gaming (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiufyZ ... fTw0D4CvnQ).

I stay away from Rust and similar games due to the PvP element. YMMV

[CommanderTuvok]

OK. It is 70s, but I associate them with New Wave early 80s. I would have loved to have slipped this on the setlist, and then watched people's faces drop...

[youtube]GZDl_R8Zp2E[/youtube]