The Refuge of the Toads

#36001

CommanderTuvok wrote: "Punching down", "position of privilege and power", "abuse of privilege", etc......it's gotta be rape. A social justice warrior told me!

Speaking of punching, here is a blast from the past.

#36002

After a search, it does appear that CSIOP has escaped completely unscathed. I guess since their conferences were not considered party central, none of the SJWs cared about it. In addition, they come across as far more serious about their core mission. Plus their speaker list and writers and stacked with people the SJWs hate. It doesn't even look like the SJWs tried to go after them.

#36003

[quote="feathers]
Why yes, you practically incubated Tony the Queer Shoop(TM). Already forgotten about him, have we.

Incidentally, Tony asks for personal help because he's lost his job, which is fine by me. The day he raises 20K for writing a permanently-postponed book, or producing a series of imaginary HQ youtube videos, or to buy a blinking new camera to start a glamour site that perishes within the year, he deserves the same scorn as the bilker club.[/quote]

Now, now. Greta would kick your ass with her Fluevogs if she caught you talking like that...

#36004

I, personally, will accept nothing less than sons being raised to be ladies, daughters being raised to be gentlemen, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri being raised to be small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

#36005

Service Dog wrote:Raise your sons to be daughters and teach your gentlemen to accept nothing less.

And, lo, the black PJs are back.

#36006

Suet Cardigan wrote:
I'm sure they will succeed. A year from now, there will be no man in Earth who watches porn.

#HeForShe would be more effective in stopping men watching porn, eg replacing all the cis-women with cock-swinging Muscato types.

Muscat porn is probably a thing. Scat-plus?

If it is, I don't want to know.

#36007

Shatterface wrote:Muscat porn is probably a thing.

Has been for, like, 40 years, dude.

[youtube]KgCk3bnvO5Y[/youtube]

#36008

Dave wrote:
ffs wrote:
Dave wrote:I wouldn't. Not because I think he would try to diddle them, I don't, but because I think he would be a shitty babysitter.

There's also the fact that I think he would annoy the hell out of them and they are a green and brown belt respectively, and I really don't want to have to clean Carriers blood out of my carpets. ;)
I would now encourage Carrier babysit your kids
Fine, but Im sending you the carpet cleaning bill.

We could start a Patreon

#36009

Chants Binx, aka Big Red is back. For those who miss her sweet and lilting voice this is for you (they have thankfully blurred her face)
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/30/video ... ow_id=1738

And here is some public outrage when they read the vile online messages haters sent to her
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/30/video ... ?show_id=0

#36010

dont think this was posted before

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/boo ... pui36.html

funny every time

#36011

If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/

#36012

deLurch wrote:
Basement wrote:How did the Center for Inquiry make out?
I would say that Center for Inquiry tried to be neutral, but they got absolutely brutalized in the process. (Trying to be neutral is obvious forbidden in SJW land). Several longs stories in that.
* Ron Lindsay speech at Women in Secularism conference
* Their Woman in Secularism conference was turned into SkepChick clique central (latest one looks mostly like normal non-clique women now)
* Employed Ben Radford when he was the target of one of the witch hunts.
* Employed Melody Hensley of *triggered* twitter PSTD fame
* Recently subsumed the Richard Dawkins Foundation

OK, I do remember reading about Ben Radford.

deLurch wrote:After a search, it does appear that CSIOP has escaped completely unscathed. I guess since their conferences were not considered party central, none of the SJWs cared about it. In addition, they come across as far more serious about their core mission. Plus their speaker list and writers and stacked with people the SJWs hate. It doesn't even look like the SJWs tried to go after them.

I was thinking of CSICOP, which I have read is now CSI, which is a program within CFI. (who knew?)

CFI likes to throw around the word humanism a lot, which makes me leery, because, well, I don't need to explain it here. CSI focuses on that boring stuff like scientifically disproving supernatural claims. Keeping atheism and skepticism distinct may be the better choice.

#36013

Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no.

I not only agree with you, but would go on to argue that what she is doing is making sure that you have provided informed consent, as you can't do so without this information. She probably should have brought this up before that moment, but better late than too late or never.

Yes, I'm aware that "informed consent" is more than what is required for sex, but I happen to believe that there are moral requirements than can be different from and larger than those that are required by law.

#36014

Service Dog wrote:
jimhabegger wrote:
Service Dog wrote:Read this book, jim. It's by a WW2 vet/ historian, who had something-to-say outside his usual field. You'll enjoy a paper copy even-more. Your local library can find a copy, if they don't have one on the shelves.
Or amazon. But here's the link... https://web.archive.org/web/20040313073 ... status.htm
I read it, and I enjoyed it for a while, but about halfway through, it started to lose its novelty for me. It's insightful and entertaining, but I didn't find much useful information or knowledge in it for me. Other than its entertainment value, is there anything else about it that you thought might interest me, or any point in it that you'd like to bring out?
I recoommended the book because you wrote "The idea has been growing on me that the war against white men is somehow intertwined with class wars." Feminism resembles a middle-class fussbudget who wants to police coarse language & manners & dress-up the world according to her dopey tastes, thinking she's being sophisticated. She has a cartoonish understanding of the filthy lower class men below her or the distant powerful ones above her, and never thinks her rules should apply to herself.

Okay, I see. Thanks!

#36015

Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/

The correct answer to the statement "I have a boyfriend" is And?

#36016

Malky wrote:
Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/
The correct answer to the statement "I have a boyfriend" is And?

Or alternatively "But you are my woman now. Kudos! I can't say I don't envy you."

#36017

Malky wrote:The correct answer to the statement "I have a boyfriend" is And?

I don't agree. I would say that the correct response is: "please tell me that it isn't Richard Carrier."

#36018

Malky wrote:
Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/
The correct answer to the statement "I have a boyfriend" is And?

I prefer, "Thats between you and him."

#36019

Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/

I am not sure I understand what she is saying. The "fuckboy" only wanted to fuck her because (in her mind) she was Asian. So...she fucked him. She makes it sound like got the better of him some how, but he got exactly what he wanted - she rewarded him. Am I missing something?

#36020

Mothra's Dentist wrote:Chants Binx, aka Big Red is back. For those who miss her sweet and lilting voice this is for you (they have thankfully blurred her face)
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/30/video ... ow_id=1738

And here is some public outrage when they read the vile online messages haters sent to her
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/06/30/video ... ?show_id=0

Big Red: "They've since made my life pretty much a living hell. I can't trust people."

As someone famously said: "Oh cry me a river."

#36021

Bhurzum wrote:<snip>
I quite like what you created and would happily listen to more. If you upload anything new, please give me a nudge!

Just whilst we're talking about female vocalists, I'll dump this here even though I think I may have linked it before:

[youtube]JxlYbs4vaWk[/youtube]

"Skin" has an impressive range - she can switch from angry/gutteral barks to lilting, almost breathless harmony in a heartbeat. I've got a serious hard-on for her voice! "Skunk Anansie" are such an under-rated act. If you've never heard them before (unlikely but you never know), check them out on YT.

Again, sorry if I've posted this before.

Thanks! Let me guess, you grew up in the 1990s (as did I). Great band and I totally forgot about them. You raise female singers, punk and underrated acts. I bring you Kylesa, a genre-trespassing band influenced by Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd, which apparently means sludge/doom/HC punk with several singers and two drummers. Check out their range (given your nick, I assume you are not bothered by the heaviness of sound, btw, I like one or two tracks by Vikernes but he's otherwise appalling).

[youtube]xXu7HHV1iWg[/youtube]

The top rated Spotify track is this one. This clears the auditory canal. Also Stiff Little Fingers were good and escaped my notice (though I like and listen to some HC/punk as well as to the Pogues and others in that general direction). Also, Really? who posted Tom Petty, another great song, and much better than the RHCP ripoff. Reminds me to check out what he's done in the meantime.

I am currently in some sort of sludge/stoner/desert/vintage/heavy phase (of rock and metal). I even discovered Cream, yes the 1970s band, for myself. Or this weird 1970s japanese band, a "musicians band", largely unknown to most people, but cherished by musicians. They're called Flower Travellin Band, and apparently their one secret hit is this album "Satori". Drop in here.

#36022

So my kid is at a summer camp right now. Its a very artsy camp -- theater, painting, photography, dance, music, etc. People running it are very "progressive" as one expects from the theater crowd. Yet, as they post pictures of whats going on on their FB page, I cant help but notice that girls are doing dance, pottery and painting while the boys are doing video production and sound engineering. Is everyone? No. There are exceptions. And it seems that the theater and music programs are about equivalent to the overall gender ratio. Somehow Im thinking this is more about natural interest as the flower-children running this place would be the last people to encourage stereotypical gender roles. :)

#36023

Aneris wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:<snip>
I quite like what you created and would happily listen to more. If you upload anything new, please give me a nudge!

Just whilst we're talking about female vocalists, I'll dump this here even though I think I may have linked it before:

[youtube]JxlYbs4vaWk[/youtube]

"Skin" has an impressive range - she can switch from angry/gutteral barks to lilting, almost breathless harmony in a heartbeat. I've got a serious hard-on for her voice! "Skunk Anansie" are such an under-rated act. If you've never heard them before (unlikely but you never know), check them out on YT.

Again, sorry if I've posted this before.
Thanks! Let me guess, you grew up in the 1990s (as did I). Great band and I totally forgot about them. You raise female singers, punk and underrated acts. I bring you Kylesa, a genre-trespassing band influenced by Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd, which apparently means sludge/doom/HC punk with several singers and two drummers. Check out their range (given your nick, I assume you are not bothered by the heaviness of sound, btw, I like one or two tracks by Vikernes but he's otherwise appalling).

[youtube]xXu7HHV1iWg[/youtube]

The top rated Spotify track is this one. This clears the auditory canal. Also Stiff Little Fingers were good and escaped my notice (though I like and listen to some HC/punk as well as to the Pogues and others in that general direction). Also, Really? who posted Tom Petty, another great song, and much better than the RHCP ripoff. Reminds me to check out what he's done in the meantime.

I am currently in some sort of sludge/stoner/desert/vintage/heavy phase (of rock and metal). I even discovered Cream, yes the 1970s band, for myself. Or this weird 1970s japanese band, a "musicians band", largely unknown to most people, but cherished by musicians. They're called Flower Travellin Band, and apparently their one secret hit is this album "Satori". Drop in here.

Do you know about Death? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(protopunk_band)

#36024

Behold... another cumming

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#36025

Service Dog wrote:<snip>
Do you know about Death? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(protopunk_band)

Only the other band of the same name. Will check them out. It's interesting that punk and metal genres were never that attractive to the black youth, despite some role models like this band or the fairly influential Bad Brains.

[youtube]gnWKhq8l_5c[/youtube]

It suggests that music has a large portion of identity and self-image woven into its subculture, and it cannot be dismissed that people geniunely need ample role-models they can identify with. I also believe that white men are often, indeed, the "default", but I don't think that patriarchy and other such explanations are useful. On the contrary, they are obscurantist rubbish. Briging to some other topics we often discuss here: It appears to me that for example STEM and other nerdy subjects are simply "not cool" for many women. Not just life/work issues that have been researched, but also in a sense of what kind person "you are" when you take on such subjects. I just imagine a party situation and she says she studies math, and how none of her female interlocutors would find that cool. If she were going to the Fashion Week, that would be cool. Or psychology -- that's cool. And this creates a vicious cycle, like with those bands.

A black teenager likely is in a black community and they are all into rap or hip hop. So nobody of his friends is going to the punk concert. And the subculture is all white, making him feel alien there, even if people are non-judgmental and welcoming. There's always the tiny voice that every comment has to do with skin colour. If it's welcoming, it's because they do it extra, like love-bombing, and if someone is hostile, it's also because of that. I guess everyone had difficulties to just enjoy the ride. And of course, this self-perpetuates. With nobody going, there are even less forming a band, leading to less opportunities to feel "normal" in this environment. And it has nothing to do with what the SJWs are saying, but a lot to do with psychology and cognition.

#36026

Addendum: There are few and far between, Living Colour on the soft side, and Suffocation on the extreme end with black members. Or YouTuber SenorBivins (he's doing the vocals), like here

[youtube]5bNgOJr51CU[/youtube]

#36027

Suet Cardigan wrote:
I'm sure they will succeed. A year from now, there will be no man in Earth who watches porn.

Paraphrasing Maddox,

For every porno you don't watch, I'm watching three.

#36028

That reminds me... for you Portishead fans might enjoy former Napalm Death drummer Mick Harris's remix of Portishead's Glory Box (if you haven't heard it). He remixed under the name Scorn and it's fantastic.

[youtube]iBx6BUTqvQ0[/youtube]

#36029

Or they could follow Lemmy's advice

[youtube]BE3GlOp71w8[/youtube]

#36030

Aneris-- the annual Afro-Punk festival is a one day music event in Brooklyn, with groups like Bad Brains & Grace Jones... and it's a magnet for young black kids who appreciate stuff which defies black orthodoxy. Warms my cold heart.

#36031

Keating wrote:
CommanderTuvok wrote:
Keating wrote:Just got back from watching Independence Day 2. I liked it, although not as much as the original.
I thought it was shite, but then again, the Commander is in his mid-30s, and not a stupid a teenager, as when the original came out. Oh, and Brent Spiner is a fucking dick. That Data dude gets far too much devotion from the Trekkies, unlike other, far superior ST characters.
[youtube]JveAkAo6FLA[/youtube]

Brent Spiner is a bigamist and one of his wives is a Jesuit clone (he really loves Gail). :drool:
[youtube]Tdl-Skk4J7E[/youtube]

#36032

Did need some finishing 'touches'...

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#36033

free thoughtpolice wrote: Brent Spiner is a bigamist and one of his wives is a Jesuit clone (he really loves Gail). :drool:
[youtube]Tdl-Skk4J7E[/youtube]

Gail leaves a deposit in Brent Spiner's wank bank:

[youtube]pAg5PQ5Rc3E[/youtube]

Even delivers a bit of erotic literature to really get Brent in the mood:

Jesus said that it will enter me through Brent Spiner. One of Brent's testicles will have Brent's semen and the other Jesus Christ's and Brent can choose which one he wants to use for the sexual union. Brent and I will be in our resurrection bodies and I will be babyproof. Jesus will officiate the marriage between Brent and me, and give us his semen as a wedding present. It will definitely not be in a jar. It will be in one of Brent's testicles. I personally believe that Jesus needs me and Brent, in order to be able to make love to his bride, the church, and so without us, he cannot make love to his bride. We will be the portal with which Jesus makes love to his bride, so Brent and I will be important for Jesus Christ's happiness (the subject of my next book). Check out my writer page: http://www.gabriellechana.com/writer.html

#36034

Tigzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Brent Spiner is a bigamist and one of his wives is a Jesuit clone (he really loves Gail). :drool:
[youtube]Tdl-Skk4J7E[/youtube]
Gail leaves a deposit in Brent Spiner's wank bank:

[youtube]pAg5PQ5Rc3E[/youtube]

Even delivers a bit of erotic literature to really get Brent in the mood:

Jesus said that it will enter me through Brent Spiner. One of Brent's testicles will have Brent's semen and the other Jesus Christ's and Brent can choose which one he wants to use for the sexual union. Brent and I will be in our resurrection bodies and I will be babyproof. Jesus will officiate the marriage between Brent and me, and give us his semen as a wedding present. It will definitely not be in a jar. It will be in one of Brent's testicles. I personally believe that Jesus needs me and Brent, in order to be able to make love to his bride, the church, and so without us, he cannot make love to his bride. We will be the portal with which Jesus makes love to his bride, so Brent and I will be important for Jesus Christ's happiness (the subject of my next book). Check out my writer page: http://www.gabriellechana.com/writer.html

Let me guess. She's also the Relationships writer for Skepchick.

#36035

Billie from Ockham wrote: I remember feeling that way about Deborah Iyall of Romeo Void.

But then I went to see them in concert. Ouch.

She's lost maybe four, five hundred pounds and now does little acoustic gigs around Sacramento.

#36036

Tigzy wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Brent Spiner is a bigamist and one of his wives is a Jesuit clone (he really loves Gail). :drool:
[youtube]Tdl-Skk4J7E[/youtube]
Gail leaves a deposit in Brent Spiner's wank bank:

[youtube]pAg5PQ5Rc3E[/youtube]

Even delivers a bit of erotic literature to really get Brent in the mood:

Jesus said that it will enter me through Brent Spiner. One of Brent's testicles will have Brent's semen and the other Jesus Christ's and Brent can choose which one he wants to use for the sexual union. Brent and I will be in our resurrection bodies and I will be babyproof. Jesus will officiate the marriage between Brent and me, and give us his semen as a wedding present. It will definitely not be in a jar. It will be in one of Brent's testicles. I personally believe that Jesus needs me and Brent, in order to be able to make love to his bride, the church, and so without us, he cannot make love to his bride. We will be the portal with which Jesus makes love to his bride, so Brent and I will be important for Jesus Christ's happiness (the subject of my next book). Check out my writer page: http://www.gabriellechana.com/writer.html

Apparently in 2011 Canada got a load even Sticky Dicky would be turned off by.

[youtube]pR-IdlAKrwc[/youtube]

#36037

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote: I remember feeling that way about Deborah Iyall of Romeo Void.

But then I went to see them in concert. Ouch.
She's lost maybe four, five hundred pounds and now does little acoustic gigs around Sacramento.

Wow. Seriously? That's cool.

#36038

jet_lagg wrote:It's entirely possible Carrier is incapable of seeing things other than the way he sees them. Most days I think that's actually true. But it's irrelevant. If someone were to consistently run down pedestrians with their car it wouldn't matter (to take a purely utilitarian view) whether they were a sadist or an incompetent geriatric. They need to be removed from the streets.

We likely got a glimpse of Dicky's fantasy -- white sex knight rescuing damsels from abusive boyfriends. He has said his legion of girlfriends appreciate him for his gentleness as a lover. (Which is just another way of saying, he's awkward as hell and you'll barely notice he's in you.)

#36039

Cnutella wrote: It's lucky no one took him up took him up on that steak dinner he was auctioning a year ago...

Two bites in: Ewww --- that's not maitre d'hotel!

#36040

deLurch wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:+ Be able to name all of the Spice Girls
Let's see.

https://i.sli.mg/vugXKM.jpg

Posh Spice.

Ginger Spice.

Sporty Spice.

Baby Spice.

Scary Spice. OMG!!!!!

https://i.sli.mg/iC1C7c.gif

L to R

Self-Harm Spice
Silicone Spice
Stalker Ex Spice
Boozer Spice
Token Spice

#36041

Aneris wrote:Thanks! Let me guess, you grew up in the 1990s (as did I). Great band and I totally forgot about them. You raise female singers, punk and underrated acts. I bring you Kylesa, a genre-trespassing band influenced by Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd, which apparently means sludge/doom/HC punk with several singers and two drummers. Check out their range (given your nick, I assume you are not bothered by the heaviness of sound, btw, I like one or two tracks by Vikernes but he's otherwise appalling).

When the 90's hit us, I was a spotty 18 year old freshly posted to Germany - the music in camp was a mish-mash of EU club "trendy" shite, assorted UK pop-drivel with the occasional bit of good music wafting out of the windows of older members of the Regiment. Obviously, "good music" is a highly subjective term.

I'm a Tolkien nut and have been using "Burzum" (or "Bhurzum") as a screen name for years. I'd never even heard of Vikernes or his one-man act until random net-people started to make that connection. After the questions (and accusations of racism) started to mount up, I read "Lords of chaos" to get a better picture of who/what folks thought I was supporting. Yeah, not a fan of the dickhead or his world view(s) and to be completely honest, I think his music is almost unlistenable. Once again, subjectivity and all that good stuff.

Aneris wrote:[youtube]xXu7HHV1iWg[youtube]

Pretty good track. I'm going to search for more and give them a listen.

Aneris wrote:They're called Flower Travellin Band, and apparently their one secret hit is this album "Satori". Drop in here.

Now that's what I call good music! The opening riff almost sounds like a stoned version of "Iron man" by Sabbath. I've listened to the whole thing twice now, instant fan. Thanks for that!

In closing, I'll rattle off a few bands that I used to listen to in my teens/early 20's and you can draw your own conclusions:

Motorhead ("Ace of spades" was my first musical purchase), AC/DC, ZZ Top, Rush (still a huge fan of this legendary act - true rock gods!), Deep Purple, Led Zepplin, Black Sabbath, Rainbow, The Cult, The Sex Pistols, The Damned, The Clash, Angelic Upstarts, Subhumans ("The day the country died" is a must-have album), Metallica, Slayer, Morbid Angel, Bathory ("Blood fire death" is a classic), Death, Celtic Frost, Bolt Thrower, Sabbat (check out "Dreamweaver", another classic!).

(Round about this point, I started listening to grunge and rap)

Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Beck (not sure of his genre), Ice-T, NWA, Ice Cube, Babes in toyland ("Bruise violet" still features in one of my workout playlists - angry as fuck track, perfect for thrashing yourself to!), Cypress Hill, Onyx, Beastie Boys, Soundgarden.

OK, I'll stop there.

Speaking of rap/rock...ever hear this "crossover" gem?

[youtube]pfFD709OtFM[/youtube]

Ah, those were the days when MTV actually played music... :cry:

Guest_9bffa78b · #36042

Just jumping to the music talk. Going by the link Bhurzum and Aneris have shared, I would encourage you both to check out a youtube channel called StonedMeadowOfDoom. The Floyd/Sabbath cocktail is among my favourite musical sounds. Check out a band called Godsleep, and one called Elder.

That is all.

CaughtUpLockedOut

#36043

Service Dog wrote:Do you know about Death? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(protopunk_band)

Hells yeah, I do!

I still have crusty "Spiritual healing" and "Human" discs kicking about somewhere. I wasn't a massive fan but certainly owned a couple of CD's and would give them frequent playings.

I know it's probably blasphemy (from a hardcore fan's perspective) but this is my favourite Death track:

[youtube]i5fqSZWRasQ[/youtube]

#36044

Ericb wrote:Austrian Freedom Party gets a do-over.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36681475

Yeah, that was blatantly rigged via the mail-ins.

#36045

In the interest of balance - how about a little country music:

[youtube]kjDPqbwTI7w[/youtube]

#36046

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: L to R

Self-Harm Spice
Silicone Spice
Stalker Ex Spice
Boozer Spice
Token Spice

How dare you, sir!

You'll be sniffing glue and booing the queen next.

https://southwalesanarchists.files.word ... -medic.jpg

#36047

And just because

[youtube]BFMzST5iHGQ[/youtube]

#36048

Basement wrote:
Service Dog wrote:If I've been making-out with a woman/ we're undressed/ we're sprawled-across furniture, & my cock is on the verge of penetration...

...and she says "I have a boyfriend."

Does that count as "No". As "stop"?

I contend that she's specifically =not= saying no. She's outsourcing responsibility for her transgression, transferring the burden to me. So she can fuck without guilt. According to her rationalization: if what she's doing is wrong/ then she's a -victim- of me doing it -to- her. The entire reason she waited until Too Late-- to mention the boyfriend-- is to ensure I don't actually stop.

Feminism claims to oppose women being passive objects acted-upon. And oppose coy, old no-means-yes doubletalk.
But feminism pushes for laws requiring Affirmative Enthusiastic Explicit consent, which shift all expectation of agency away from women, to men.

I would be smart to put the burden back on her. Respond to "I have a boyfriend." With, "I have an erection. Yes or no." But feminism renders this step moot, with prepackaged claims that she 'felt' pressured to say yes.

All this is preamble to a link. Here we have the same situation, with genders reversed. But rather than a rapist, the asian woman author claims she is a victim of white oppression, and the hestitant guy she fucked is a 'fuckboy' who got what fuckboys deserve.

http://www.dailycal.org/2016/06/30/361455/
I am not sure I understand what she is saying. The "fuckboy" only wanted to fuck her because (in her mind) she was Asian. So...she fucked him. She makes it sound like got the better of him some how, but he got exactly what he wanted - she rewarded him. Am I missing something?

At least most of the commenters saw through the racist rationalizations. By the SJW definition she committed rape, and as many pointed out, reverse the roles and the guy would be tarred and feathered for life, expelled from the school, etc. At the time of writing this, the last comment was [

quote]No where in the piece does she say "I raped Sam", and Sam's preference for her white roommate, while not explicit racism, alludes to a common theme of a perceived 'inferiority' of Asian Americans by non-Asians.

Perhaps this was not the best example of that kind of racism in play, but regardless: Maggie did not rape Sam and told a story that was of great personal value to her, and she does touch upon an important issue in the discussion of racism that doesn't really get talked about in mainstream American media.[/quote]

Maybe the "perceived inferiority" was actually "he's just not into you"? The common thread of ignoring obvious answers and looking into things through the lens of race, etc is just idiotic, but expected.

#36049

free thoughtpolice wrote:
Beleth wrote:
DW Adams wrote:Jesus fuck, this child fucking witchhunt is becoming unbearable.
Agreed. Trying to turn a statement of "I didn't boink anyone underage" into an admission of boinking someone underage is a tactic worthy of A+ers, not of the people here.
Who said that? If you can quote someone saying that I'm on board with calling bullshit.

I know it came after this post I'm quoting here, but Matt sums it up nicely:

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Statements of fact:
* In the US, college undergrads are aged 18-21.

* Camp Quest counselors are aged 18 and up, but camp counselors are usually in their early 20's.

* Camp Quest campers are aged 8 - 17.

* Dicky has bragged about 'dating' college women he's met via his speaking engagements.

* Dicky has stated that in general, he is open to 'dating' girls as young as the legal age of consent, which is 16 in the state he now resides.

Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?
That's what I'm saying is beneath the folks here.
If there's proof that he's done that, or even an accusation by a 16 year old that Dicky boinked her, then that's one thing. But to weaselly hint that the Human Jheri Curl is an actual pedo like that? Not kosher.

From what I've seen here it is mainly people quoting Carrier's own words that he would be fine with"dating" women as long as they were legal age and D6mi8n saying that he meant legal age in California so Dimion knows that he wouldn't be going by Ohio law even though he has moved there.

#36050

The religion of peace has been busy during the holy month of Ramablam:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dhaka-rest ... -1.3661626

I can't recall, but did the Troubles ever ramp up during Christmas or Easter?

#36051

Beleth wrote: Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?
That's what I'm saying is beneath the folks here.
If there's proof that he's done that, or even an accusation by a 16 year old that Dicky boinked her, then that's one thing. But to weaselly hint that the Human Jheri Curl is an actual pedo like that? Not kosher.

Yep. There's not even evidence that Dickie boinked a legal teen. He's bragged about having sex with college students, but that's neither here nor there. College students can be in their early twenties after all.

Carrier is unprofessional, sleazy and highly inappropriate, but I don't like the fact that some people here try to paint him as a danger to CQ attendees or minors in general only because he might have hit on a college student or touched her hair or arms without asking for permission.

#36052

Beleth wrote:Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?
That's what I'm saying is beneath the folks here.

Oh, my. Bad Matt. Naughty Matt. Culpable Matt.

#36053

German StrutBoatsman wrote:Did need some finishing 'touches'...

old_unfaithful_2.jpg

Can you tweet it to him? It might cheer him up.

#36054

Beleth wrote:Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?
That's what I'm saying is beneath the folks here.
If there's proof that he's done that, or even an accusation by a 16 year old that Dicky boinked her, then that's one thing. But to weaselly hint that the Human Jheri Curl is an actual pedo like that? Not kosher.

From what I've seen here it is mainly people quoting Carrier's own words that he would be fine with"dating" women as long as they were legal age and D6mi8n saying that he meant legal age in California so Dimion knows that he wouldn't be going by Ohio law even though he has moved there.

I've got an idea to help clarify this mess. Let's ask him what age range he looks for, say 18-58 and see how he replies.

#36055

free thoughtpolice wrote:The religion of peace has been busy during the holy month of Ramablam:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/dhaka-rest ... -1.3661626

I can't recall, but did the Troubles ever ramp up during Christmas or Easter?

And that's just the Tet of the iceberg.

#36056

I'm currently strolling down the nets and wires for no particular reason at all, and re-stumbled about this good (now) old gem from Christopher Hitchens.

[youtube]LiMzQGWMKvo[/youtube]
Damn. It was nice when the front-end of the Atheist-Non-Movement used to kick arse against the overly regressive. You know, instead of killing Zebrafish with roundup to have a wank over their dead brains (soon to be banned in the EU (thanks/curse #brexit)) or copping a feel of teenagers at summer camps.

Hedges wasn't *that* speechless afterwards (still a pissant, tho), but the original (full) video was taken down by copyrite arseholes a couple of years ago. Very good stuff, still.

#36057

That's offensive

#36058

Kirbmarc wrote:
Beleth wrote: Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?
That's what I'm saying is beneath the folks here.
If there's proof that he's done that, or even an accusation by a 16 year old that Dicky boinked her, then that's one thing. But to weaselly hint that the Human Jheri Curl is an actual pedo like that? Not kosher.
Yep. There's not even evidence that Dickie boinked a legal teen. He's bragged about having sex with college students, but that's neither here nor there. College students can be in their early twenties after all.

Carrier is unprofessional, sleazy and highly inappropriate, but I don't like the fact that some people here try to paint him as a danger to CQ attendees or minors in general only because he might have hit on a college student or touched her hair or arms without asking for permission.

Some people here said that Carrier's own words would be a PR nightmare if the parents and donors found out. That is why Carrier was quoted. They did not say he did fuck teens, just that he had opportunity and motive, so to speak. Personally, I doubt they would give him the time of day.

That said, the main thrust has always been his unorthodox relationship with the SSA and Camp Quest. You might also note that you are entirely throwing his accuser under the bus by dismissing her concerns that she voiced after it was announced Carrier was working for CQ. She felt strongly enough to speak up, that he had creeped her out more than a little bit. Skepticon said it was a continuing pattern of harassment. Yes, people accuse without cause. But Carrier lies and has zero idea of proper boundaries. So I am not willing to simply dismiss their complaints out of hand.

#36059

Beleth wrote:

Those Statements of Fact are clearly designed to lead to the Statement of Insinuation that Dicky has boinked 16 year olds, no?

You'd have to ask Matt to be certain that he meant that Carrier has had sex with 16 year olds. It doesn't appear to be "clearly" saying that.
It does say that by Carrier's own words he would consider a woman of legal age to be fair game.*
Furthermore, you said this:

Agreed. Trying to turn a statement of "I didn't boink anyone underage" into an admission of boinking someone underage is a tactic worthy of A+ers, not of the people here.

The quote you provided says the opposite of that. It says nothing more than Carrier drawing a boundary at legal age.
Apparently, you are the one that is reading things into things people are saying and doing the insinuating. If you want to saying that quoting facts may lead people like you to overstate the evidence, I would agree that it is possible, but that is the fault of the person that is misreading the evidence.

*Someone here has stated that the consent laws in Ohio are not as clear cut as 16 and anything goes, so that would actually make it that Carrier has fucked a 16 year old there according to the boundaries he has stated.

#36060

make it unlikely that Carrier has fucked a 16 year old there